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Re: Global warming in the past, must have been all those cars!
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2012, 11:24:44 PM »
have any of you looked at other planets in our system? Venus is a seriously f*cked version of earth. if you want to know what Earth will be like after "global warming" or "climate Change" look at Venus. i personally cant be arsed to get into a debate about the whole subject as no matter how much we all debate it the earth aint gonna get any better and it will still be on a crash course for disaster.
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Re: Global warming in the past, must have been all those cars!
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2012, 01:48:17 AM »
According to a survey in this week's Time magazine, 85% of Americans think global warming is happening. The other 15% work for the White House.
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Re: Global warming in the past, must have been all those cars!
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2012, 01:53:07 AM »
Quote from: whiteknight on June 05, 2012, 11:24:44 PM
have any of you looked at other planets in our system? Venus is a seriously f*cked version of earth. if you want to know what Earth will be like after "global warming" or "climate Change" look at Venus. i personally cant be arsed to get into a debate about the whole subject as no matter how much we all debate it the earth aint gonna get any better and it will still be on a crash course for disaster.
Not really sure what your saying here, are you saying that it doesn't matter what we do the earth will be screwed. Or are you saying only if we don't stop burning fusel fuels etc.?

As for earth becoming like Venus I'm not sure how you can compare the 2, the earth and Venus are not even close to being the same planets, have different orbits and that orbit is what makes the temp. so much different on Venus then on Earth. As far as I know they havn't proven life ever existed on Venus yet.
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Re: Global warming in the past, must have been all those cars!
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2012, 01:55:58 AM »
Quote from: Vivo on June 06, 2012, 01:48:17 AM
According to a survey in this week's Time magazine, 85% of Americans think global warming is happening. The other 15% work for the White House.

The American people only know what their gov and mass media tell them, they are followers, just like sheep. As for the other 15% crack, it's the White house leading the charge for us to march the GW march.

I'll see if I can find the stats that show the past 3 or 4 decades the temps have gone down overall.
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Re: Global warming in the past, must have been all those cars!
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2012, 02:12:29 AM »
I want to reiterate my previous position....


There were around 1 billion people in the world in 1800 and around 7 billion today. About 30 years from now, we might reach 9 billion and so on and so forth. The earth's size is not getting bigger. Our resources are deteriorating. The number of humans are increasing and the number of plant and animal species are decreasing. There are around 500,000 babies born everyday. There's just toooo many of people that depend on limited resources.
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Re: Global warming in the past, must have been all those cars!
« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2012, 09:05:44 AM »
I was watching a documentary at the weekend about the future of the car. Heard an astounding fact, " DAVID L. GREENE (Oak Ridge National Laboratory): Our transportation system is almost entirely fueled by petroleum, more than 95 percent. A quarter of all the petroleum ever consumed in the history of the world was consumed in the last 10 years. So we're consuming it at an accelerating rate. ". The doc was from 2007 i think so i guess its worse now, thats one f@#ked up situation we have, and we wonder why the world feels sick?



Im not getting into a big debate here, i see no need since most of us all agree global warming is real and is happening. For those wbo dont want to accept it, thats up to them, it wont affect my thinking on the matter.
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Re: Global warming in the past, must have been all those cars!
« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2012, 09:16:52 AM »
Do you know what will happen if the prices of fuel goes way way down?








Global Warming will worsen because...
More people will buy cars!!!!

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Re: Global warming in the past, must have been all those cars!
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2012, 09:30:07 AM »
Quote from: Vivo on June 06, 2012, 09:16:52 AM
Do you know what will happen if the prices of fuel goes way way down?








Global Warming will worsen because...
More people will buy cars!!!!


Thats already happening. News report yesterday i saw said in the next 10 yrs most of China will abandon their bicycles in favour of cars or motorcycles. There are around 8,000,000 cycles in China so imagine if even only 1/3rd switch to petrol, its all f#%ked.
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Re: Global warming in the past, must have been all those cars!
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2012, 09:33:13 AM »
Quote from: streido on June 06, 2012, 09:30:07 AM
Quote from: Vivo on June 06, 2012, 09:16:52 AM
Do you know what will happen if the prices of fuel goes way way down?








Global Warming will worsen because...
More people will buy cars!!!!


Thats already happening. News report yesterday i saw said in the next 10 yrs most of China will abandon their bicycles in favour of cars or motorcycles. There are around 8,000,000 cycles in China so imagine if even only 1/3rd switch to petrol, its all f#%ked.


Yes! China! They will buy cars because they can afford now! They have the money! And they now make cars! No.. lots of cars!!!

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Re: Global warming in the past, must have been all those cars!
« Reply #39 on: June 06, 2012, 07:06:59 PM »
I'm all in favor of someone making a car or other veh. that runs on batt/electric power. I'd even pay a premium for one of maybe 25% over the standard petro car/cycle.

This way I can charge it with my solar panel(s).
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Re: Global warming in the past, must have been all those cars!
« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2012, 05:49:38 AM »
My biggest fear is everything we take OUT of the planets core is leaving a void. Water/mud cannot replicate the viscosity/nature/purpose of crude oil. The dynamics of the planet ARE changing. No one believes it is due to removing the fluid reserves inside. I am FIRMLY convinced. Most of the "hype" is aimed at the atmosphere, and is valid (imho) but the real danger is inside.IMHO.
Ever spin a raw egg? Thats the Earth.
Now spin a Boiled egg. That's what we are doing.
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Re: Global warming in the past, must have been all those cars!
« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2012, 09:10:55 AM »
Quote from: 08087 on June 06, 2012, 07:06:59 PM
I'm all in favor of someone making a car or other veh. that runs on batt/electric power. I'd even pay a premium for one of maybe 25% over the standard petro car/cycle.

This way I can charge it with my solar panel(s).

Thats exactly what i want. Solar panels on my garage roof and an electric scoot, you can then run it on free fuel really. I am not for electric vehicles at all until they can be powered or charged with renewables, plugging into the grid only shifts the polution from your tailpipe to the power plant. Cant see the oil corps allowing us all to run our transport for free, we could have did it years ago but no doubt they had a hand in slowing or blocking the idea.
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Re: Global warming in the past, must have been all those cars!
« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2012, 12:51:18 AM »
Another side of the same coin... Plastics are used in making lighter electric vehicles. Plastics are made from Dino oil.
Minerals are used in batteries. Minerals are mined. Not with electric shovels either.
Magnetic, solar, wind, gravity and ocean tides are the ONLY free power we have. These are the keys to building for the future
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« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2012, 01:41:07 AM »
Streido's dream scoot.....


Solar spoilers!!!!!!


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Re: Global warming in the past, must have been all those cars!
« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2012, 06:22:16 AM »
Riding over 30mph pops the front wheel up. It's a cops dream. Hey! De Resrticted scoot! Pull the F over....   STOP RESISTING!!!***@ ***@
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