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Oil light 50cc Super 9
« on: October 10, 2020, 01:41:13 PM »
Can anyone please advise me why the oil light is on when the engine is running? There is Max oil in the tank and oil is coming out of the pipe at the engine end! I have disconnect the connector for the sender unit on the oil tank, and the light is off! What is for the light for? I assumed it was for low oil!
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Re: Oil light 50cc Super 9
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2020, 02:18:21 PM »
What does the operator's manual say?
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Re: Oil light 50cc Super 9
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2020, 02:49:46 PM »
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But the reservoir is full! So it doesn’t need topping up. 

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Re: Oil light 50cc Super 9
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2020, 03:30:46 PM »
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But the reservoir is full! So it doesn’t need topping up.
Well, that could possibly mean two things to start with:
1. The oil level sensor in the tank is stuck on empty
2. There is a wiring glich somewhere that energizes the warning light

That means you now investigate and test stuff until you find the cause.

Do you have a multimeter?
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Re: Oil light 50cc Super 9
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2020, 05:10:22 PM »
Thanks for the reply, I do have a multimeter! The sensor has three or two wires going to it (not with the bike at the moment) but must be getting power as the light goes off when I disconnect the connector to the sensor. But will check the to see what comes up with the meter, I will take the tank off as well and remove the sensor to see if it’s stuck!

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Re: Oil light 50cc Super 9
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2020, 05:32:52 PM »
There ya go! Once the tank is off you can dump the oil in the jug it came out of for reuse. Then you can see(maybe) the switch inside. Your multimeter on ohms can tell if the switch and however it senses is working or not.
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Re: Oil light 50cc Super 9
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2020, 05:39:41 PM »
Thanks Karl. I will post an update once I have done it

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Re: Oil light 50cc Super 9
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2020, 06:30:09 PM »
Can't wait! Really! Blow-by-blow with pictures! Har, har! Us retired people need all the help we can get to just stay awake!
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Re: Oil light 50cc Super 9
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2020, 12:06:47 AM »
Calm down! Take a deep breath before dismantling the entire machine.  Many Kymcos use the oil light as a simple reminder to change the oil.  Depending on the model, it goes on every 2,000km (typical) and stays on until you you turn it off with the hidden toggle when you've done the oil change.  NOTE! This isn't in the Owners Manual, it's a hidden item that the dealer can charge you for when he changes your oil.  The toggle is in a different place from one Kymco model to the next.
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2020, 12:36:35 AM »
Calm down! Take a deep breath before dismantling the entire machine.  Many Kymcos use the oil light as a simple reminder to change the oil.  Depending on the model, it goes on every 2,000km (typical) and stays on until you you turn it off with the hidden toggle when you've done the oil change.  NOTE! This isn't in the Owners Manual, it's a hidden item that the dealer can charge you for when he changes your oil.  The toggle is in a different place from one Kymco model to the next.
Yeah but this is a two-smoke with oil tank and oil injector pump!
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Re: Oil light 50cc Super 9
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2020, 05:44:40 AM »
Yeah but this is a two-smoke with oil tank and oil injector pump!
Ah, good point!  I still suspect those crafty dealers are up to something . . .

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Re: Oil light 50cc Super 9
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2020, 07:10:30 PM »
Calm down! Take a deep breath before dismantling the entire machine.  Many Kymcos use the oil light as a simple reminder to change the oil.  Depending on the model, it goes on every 2,000km (typical) and stays on until you you turn it off with the hidden toggle when you've done the oil change.  NOTE! This isn't in the Owners Manual, it's a hidden item that the dealer can charge you for when he changes your oil.  The toggle is in a different place from one Kymco model to the next.

Drained the oil! And the float seems to move freely! I plugged it in whilst the float was out of the tank and the light stayed on! I used the volt metre and two out of the three was showing power when they was plugged in, and only one showing power from the main loom when it wasn’t plugged in! I did notice that the black connector was about dodgy, and I think I have a dodgy wire somewhere as when I moved the wires it would flicker! So for now I have just unplugged it as got more problems! See latest post 😂😂

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Re: Oil light 50cc Super 9
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2020, 06:44:17 AM »
I have a dodgy wire somewhere as when I moved the wires it would flicker!

Sorry! I guess I wasn't clear when I mentioned the oil-change light.  Kymco uses the lights to tell you important things that need doing. Have you checked the Owner's manual or the Factory Service Manual?  There's still more that the dealers know.  The point being that these lights are sometimes sending service messages and they have a toggle to turn them off.  Cars like my Chevy 4x4  do the same thing.

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Re: Oil light 50cc Super 9
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2020, 09:33:24 AM »
Sorry! I guess I wasn't clear when I mentioned the oil-change light.  Kymco uses the lights to tell you important things that need doing. Have you checked the Owner's manual or the Factory Service Manual?  There's still more that the dealers know.  The point being that these lights are sometimes sending service messages and they have a toggle to turn them off.  Cars like my Chevy 4x4  do the same thing.
Thanks for your reply, I can’t see anything about it having a service light! It’s a 2006 model! But if it does have a service light that doesn’t explain why the light flicks erratically when I move the wires 

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