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Aggravating
« on: May 07, 2016, 09:15:02 PM »
2013 Super 8.  Runs kind of choppy on the throttle into it warm up real good. Then if I stop for an hour break, its a pain getting it restarted. Today worn the battery down trying. I was wondering if anybody else had this problem??   I'm thinking more on the lines of flooding.

I have not changed the spark plug. I bought it used, so I don't know about the previous owner either.
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Re: Aggravating
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2016, 09:44:09 PM »
have not changed the spark plug

WHY have you not performed basic maintenance and troubleshooting?

Valve Clearance Adjustment

Cleaning the Carburetor

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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2016, 10:13:34 PM »
Spark plug is the first thing I would try. Be very careful not to over-tighten the new one. I know you are new, but I would recommend you do a basic maintenance on the scoot like Tortoise said. You do not know what has been neglected.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2016, 08:30:40 PM »
I'll start with the spark plug, after I get battery charger.   >:(                I will at least check out the videos. 
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2016, 10:10:29 PM »
Let us know how it turns out. Best of luck to you!
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2016, 12:25:17 AM »
I cleaned the carb per the video.   getting to late.   Spark plug tomorrow.   I'll let you know.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2016, 11:58:38 AM »
Sounds like valves to me, but I'm more of a 2 stroke guy. Maybe a compression check could narrow down some things.

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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2016, 01:29:59 AM »
The problem lies with the auto choke there are some posts on this subject

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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2016, 01:52:55 AM »
The problem lies with the auto choke there are some posts on this subject
Is there an easy way to replace it with a manual choke?

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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2016, 12:32:29 PM »
I would recommend doing the basic maintenance first. Could only help. Only then would I personally change the auto-choke. Did you change the plug and adjust the valves?  Did you check/replace the air filter? Did you check the vacuum hoses for leaks? Try the simple stuff first. It will be much better and cheaper than throwing parts at a problem. I have learned the hard way.
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2016, 01:41:33 PM »
I would recommend doing the basic maintenance first. Could only help. Only then would I personally change the auto-choke. Did you change the plug and adjust the valves?  Did you check/replace the air filter? Did you check the vacuum hoses for leaks? Try the simple stuff first. It will be much better and cheaper than throwing parts at a problem. I have learned the hard way.
I agree with you about the maintenance. Took me quite a bit of tinkering, but I eventually got my People 50 to start and run OK when it's cold. Poor cold start is a known gripe on these.

I emphasized ok, because it's still a little temperamental.  I regularly have to "hand" choke it to get it to start. By hand choke, I mean covering the air filter inlet with my hand while I crank it over.  Once it starts, it runs great.

The other thing that I found works is to crank it a second or so with the kill switch on and the start it. Seams too prime it a little.

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Re: Aggravating
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2016, 04:59:09 PM »
I would ask first if you did any mods to it.

Maybe a sticking choke ??
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Re: Aggravating
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2016, 05:38:36 PM »
Could be as simple as a 3 dollar spark plug. Basics first IMHO  ;)
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Re: Aggravating
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2016, 02:49:59 AM »
These are the reasons for manufacturers turning to fuel injection.
This weekend I am going to remove the auto choke and install a blank plate in its place. Will post the results

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Re: Aggravating
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2016, 11:53:45 AM »
That will leave the choke open, if these are the same as 50cc 4t carbs. The choke needle drops when warm after a bit of having the voltage applied to it.

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