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sidthesloth

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Re: MY ZX50 O.E.M CARB TUNING
« Reply #420 on: September 15, 2010, 02:09:17 AM »
Two schools of thought.
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« Reply #421 on: September 15, 2010, 02:13:49 AM »
How Temperature, Altitude & Humidity Affect Carburetor Jetting

The carburetor’s sole purpose is to deliver the correct mixture of fuel and air to the engine. Sounds simple enough, right? Unfortunately, one of these variables, air, changes depending on the weather. As temperatures rise during the heat of the day the air molecules spread further apart and the air becomes less dense with fewer oxygen molecules in a given volume of air. Similarly, as altitude increases the air density decreases. Humidity, water molecules in the air, also displace oxygen molecules. These changes in air density can have a profound affect on carburetor jetting. Lets examine these factors in more detail assuming we started with a perfect air-fuel mixture.

Temperature
As the air temperature increases, the air density falls. This will make the air-fuel mixture richer. Why? Less oxygen content in the air but no change in the amount of fuel being supplied by the carburetor. In order to regain the perfect air-fuel mixture its necessary to "jet down" (chose smaller jets) to compensate for the lower air density. Conversely, cooler air temperatures will necessitate more fuel i.e. larger jets.

Altitude
Generally speaking as altitude increases the air density decreases. This will require smaller jets to compensate for the lack of oxygen content at higher altitudes. Less oxygen and less fuel means less power. Having less power is not something racers warmly embrace. High altitude race engines often employ much higher compression ratios to make the most of the "thin air".

Humidity
Humidity, water molecules in the air, also displace oxygen molecules making the air less dense. This will make the air-fuel mixture richer and will require smaller jets to compensate for the lack of oxygen content in the humid air.
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Re: MY ZX50 O.E.M CARB TUNING
« Reply #422 on: September 15, 2010, 02:22:15 AM »
Being a vacuum situation, would the moisture vapourise giving increased intake?
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« Reply #423 on: September 15, 2010, 02:24:48 AM »
well as you would know i spoke before i thought, because i am 2 jets bigger right now than 3 weeks ago, when it was ALOT warmer.....hmmmm........                      WHOA!.... now THAT is a summary for you... ;D  ;)     thanks word.........i like it when i can read it or watch it done.....                       imma have to go stalking word so i can watch him tune his. :o :o   just for educational purposes of course. ;D ;)       tow my scoot so he can tune the cvt.... :D ::)
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« Reply #424 on: September 15, 2010, 02:24:53 AM »
..i think what this illustrates is that there is no "magical combination"..to jetting for cold weather..

..or any weather, for that matter...

..it rains dang near every day where art lives..

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..my grass is dead...

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Re: MY ZX50 O.E.M CARB TUNING
« Reply #425 on: September 15, 2010, 02:28:17 AM »
Plug Chops
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Re: MY ZX50 O.E.M CARB TUNING
« Reply #426 on: September 15, 2010, 02:29:18 AM »
Plug Chops


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« Reply #427 on: September 15, 2010, 02:45:37 AM »
 Ha! see. Glad you can type :D But it does cause more confusion  ;D  But for race conditions it makes perfect sense. But somewhere there is a happy medium. In the heat even though less dence they are more ready to burn than cold molicules. Kinda like spontainious combustion.
 Once a fire is hot it can consume more but may take a little bit to hit that point.(worm up)
  But if you have ever started a fire that doesn't draft right it just sits and smokes and does nothing to convert the fuel into energy Ha! Where a'm I going with this  ;D (for another beer!) So for most us you don't want to run to lean I guess thats the point but under the perfect conditions it's realy what you want.
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Re: MY ZX50 O.E.M CARB TUNING
« Reply #428 on: September 15, 2010, 02:47:17 AM »
Plug Chops
                                                 done today.....on the ritcher side of life right now.  will see what she looks like after reinstall of rs pipe....              oh, sh** i cut grass EVERY week...good and green here. :D
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« Reply #429 on: September 15, 2010, 02:47:50 AM »
Where a'm I going with this   (for another beer!)

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« Reply #430 on: September 15, 2010, 02:50:06 AM »
Hmm, poorer side for me, for now, anyway.
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« Reply #431 on: September 16, 2010, 06:12:12 PM »
well fellas, be careful what you wish for.. :D  i put my pipe back on(its the next r chrome,i think i said rs earlier). she definately leaned her out some..about 3-4 shades lighter now.. i have a light color/tan ring now, instead of the dark brown. since it will get cooler out, shoukd i tap the jet a bit??  or just wait till next month when it does drop????.... i need some 5g rollers i think.. :D
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« Reply #432 on: September 16, 2010, 06:17:12 PM »
Tan sounds good, I would leave it there for now. How is it running?
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« Reply #433 on: September 16, 2010, 06:59:15 PM »
its fairly breezy here today but she seems to be running ALOT better now. i did pick up those 2-3mph from yesterday, so i guess the pipe is still better than the modded oem.. :D     of course the cvt is still off..thought i had a set of 5s coming but i dont. :-\
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Re: MY ZX50 O.E.M CARB TUNING
« Reply #434 on: September 16, 2010, 07:33:10 PM »
Yep leave alone get some rides in  ;)
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