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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: CROSSBOLT on August 21, 2021, 07:05:15 PM
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I have sent requests to every dealer listed here for a belt. Any other recommendations?
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Try this link...https://www.scooterdynasty.com/beltfor300ikymcodowntownpeople.aspx
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Try this link...https://www.scooterdynasty.com/beltfor300ikymcodowntownpeople.aspx
OW, ow, yikes! Does not even mention brand!
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Is this belt goldbraided, for this price?
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Just curious Crossbolt if another model uses the same belt? I think I have one spare for my 250 People S
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OW, ow, yikes! Does not even mention brand!
The add shows that the belt is a Mitsuboshi (Japan) made belt, the price is pretty high though.
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Email for Leesons in our parts list doesn't work... leesonsarcticcat.com is no longer valid...
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Just curious Crossbolt if another model uses the same belt? I think I have one spare for my 250 People S
Quite possibly but unidentifiable with the Kymco/Honda part number system. Every belt is 23100- something regardless of model. Then for the Downtown and big People it is -LEA7-E00. The genuine part has that on the belt from Mitsuboshi. But a totally different -LXX#-E00 could be assigned to something like one of the 250's, 350's and so on.
That means measurements are required. The DT belt, according to De dee in Canada, is 1004 mm around, 24.5 mm wide with a 28° V-angle. I would love to camp out in a well stocked parts room and FIND one that matches!
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Would any of these work?
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20210821173148&SearchText=belt+for+kymco+downtown+300i (https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20210821173148&SearchText=belt+for+kymco+downtown+300i)
I just did a search for Kymco Downtown 300i belt.
Once I looked up the CVT belt for the AK 500 and those are also very pricey. But the most expensive belt I know of so far is the one for my Burgman 650 CVT. Makes all these prices look like pennies on the dollar at $484 or more.
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Would any of these work?
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20210821173148&SearchText=belt+for+kymco+downtown+300i (https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20210821173148&SearchText=belt+for+kymco+downtown+300i)
I just did a search for Kymco Downtown 300i belt.
Once I looked up the CVT belt for the AK 500 and those are also very pricey. But the most expensive belt I know of so far is the one for my Burgman 650 CVT. Makes all these prices look like pennies on the dollar at $484 or more.
Having owned a Burgman 400 and reading their forum - I was left with the impression that most 650 owners sold their scooter if the CVT quit.??
Stig
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Email for Leesons in our parts list doesn't work... leesonsarcticcat.com is no longer valid...
I don't understand what you're saying, is Leesons no longer a working supplier of Kymco parts?
I see the belt listed there.....but you're saying it really isn't available?
We need to keep good records on where we can order parts from if our dealer is no help.
At this time I list Solano and Leesons as viable parts suppliers.
Stig
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Solano cycle is showing it on their parts diagram for 129.50 Now if they have it in stock?
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I don't understand what you're saying, is Leesons no longer a working supplier of Kymco parts?
I see the belt listed there.....but you're saying it really isn't available?
We need to keep good records on where we can order parts from if our dealer is no help.
At this time I list Solano and Leesons as viable parts suppliers.
Stig
Don't know if they are in or out. Just that their email doesn't work, the link is inoperative...
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Would any of these work?
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20210821173148&SearchText=belt+for+kymco+downtown+300i (https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20210821173148&SearchText=belt+for+kymco+downtown+300i)
I just did a search for Kymco Downtown 300i belt.
Once I looked up the CVT belt for the AK 500 and those are also very pricey. But the most expensive belt I know of so far is the one for my Burgman 650 CVT. Makes all these prices look like pennies on the dollar at $484 or more.
Many bad reports on china belts. But I am getting closer to trying one!
At $464/belt may be why they last so long!
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Solano cycle is showing it on their parts diagram for 129.50 Now if they have it in stock?
They responded that someone would be responding soon (Monday?).
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They responded that someone would be responding soon (Monday?).
Never seen a motorcycle dealer open on a Monday, usually Sunday-Monday is their days off.
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Never seen a motorcycle dealer open on a Monday, usually Sunday-Monday is their days off.
Oops! Forgot about that!
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What a ball-ache. Good luck with it Karl. (Maybe I should start looking for one for my new(ish) X-Town 300 now?)
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Always found phone calls to dealers helpful when hunting stuff for my scooter.
In 2013 I found list of scooter shops selling Kymco stuff and tracked down a set of very HTF crash bars ....from a little shop in Texas😊
Stig
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Seems readily available in UK. About GB£100 which sounds fair for OEM?
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What a ball-ache. Good luck with it Karl. (Maybe I should start looking for one for my new(ish) X-Town 300 now?)
Yes, you should! S'posed to take the same belt according to Polini. But then theirs is a 30° V instead of 28°.
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Seems readily available in UK. About GB£100 which sounds fair for OEM?
LLJ3- that's the designator for the X-town and it is different: no outside "teeth."
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Always found phone calls to dealers helpful when hunting stuff for my scooter.
In 2013 I found list of scooter shops selling Kymco stuff and tracked down a set of very HTF crash bars ....from a little shop in Texas😊
Stig
We have discussed this before and I agree dealers rarely take time to answer email's and if they do it may be a week or more later. This has been my experience anyway.
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Having owned a Burgman 400 and reading their forum - I was left with the impression that most 650 owners sold their scooter if the CVT quit.??
Stig
Some of the riders I have read about who had a CVT fail on a Burgman 650 did choose to part the scooter out. The price to have a dealer/shop repair a broken CVT was around $2500 at least and now possibly over $3000. That's totaled territory for insurance purposes. There are a few who are handy with doing their own maintenance and do fix it themselves. This is the only scooter I know of where you have to drop the entire engine out of the frame just to get to the CVT. That's because part of the frame blocks access. A shortcut was found that if you could lift the rear end up high enough (straps or block and tackle) and only drop down the engine a little you could get the CVT off and do the repair. But even DIY would cost around $1200-$1500. Usually if the belt breaks in this CVT it is caused by broken bearing bits or plastic gear bits getting between the belt and pulleys and not the belt actually wearing out. But still, the chance of that failure happening on all model years is less than the rate of new cancer cases in the USA in a year. More so for early models than late models.
This is actually one of the motivators to me to consider the AK 550 to replace mine... much much easier and less pricey CVT maintenance that can be done with the scooter on centerstand. The rest of the maintenance would be similar enough. Now, if only Kymco would resolve the parts availability issue as this thread is mostly about (in stock and at a reasonable price).
Unusual to me that the CVT belt would not have outside "teeth" on it. I know other belts, like the final drive belt on the AK 550, are smooth on the outside but the CVT belts I've seen usually have teeth on both sides. Well, except for the Burgman 650 CVT belt that has metal segments instead of teeth. Learn something new every day.
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There is a Malossi belt for the Downtown 300i listed here for $110. Also a couple of more expensive options.
https://www.racingplanetusa.com/kymco-downtown-300i-transmission-c-2_21322-1.html?newcPathco=284
I don't know if they have any in stock.
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There is a Malossi belt for the Downtown 300i listed here for $110. Also a couple of more expensive options.
https://www.racingplanetusa.com/kymco-downtown-300i-transmission-c-2_21322-1.html?newcPathco=284
I don't know if they have any in stock.
Thanks! I wonder why Malossi shipping is less than 20 bucks US but Mitsuboshi is nearly 50? The term "Available" implies in stock but the shipping screams mail order....
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No one from Taiwan wants to ship to Australia (using COVID as an excuse), so I order my parts from Europe: https://www.bike-parts-kymco.uk/.
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I got a spare belt for my UXV450i at my local NAPA, gave em my Kymco #, they cross referenced it, didn't have it in stock, but had it next day from warehouse, at this point, I don't recall if it was an actual NAPA branded belt, or a Gates belt
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I got a spare belt for my UXV450i at my local NAPA, gave em my Kymco #, they cross referenced it, didn't have it in stock, but had it next day from warehouse, at this point, I don't recall if it was an actual NAPA branded belt, or a Gates belt
NAPA! You gave the Kymco part number? Or some other number? I will give that a try! Tried Gates on line but did not work...
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NAPA! You gave the Kymco part number? Or some other number? I will give that a try! Tried Gates on line but did not work...
to tell you the truth, I don't remember if I gave em the part # or vehicle, make, model, year
my local NAPA has been good at finding odd, or obsolete parts, from some warehouse somewhere that still has NOS,
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What belt are we looking for? For what model?
CJS
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What belt are we looking for? For what model?
CJS
Given that Karl (Crossbolt) was the OP, I think he's after a Downtown 300 belt?
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What belt are we looking for? For what model?
CJS
Downtown 300i/People GTi300 23100-LEA7-E00 (LWA: 1004-24.5-28 Length mm - Width mm - Angle °). These dimensions are heresay read on here. Part number consistent with Kymco parts diagrams.
Why? You got one? How much shipped from where?
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Downtown 300i/People GTi300 23100-LEA7-E00 (LWA: 1004-24.5-28 Length mm - Width mm - Angle °). These dimensions are heresay read on here. Part number consistent with Kymco parts diagrams.
Why? You got one? How much shipped from where?
I don't stock one, we are a 4 wheel dealer only, but I can order. Either of these PN's are good, 23100-LEA7-E01 OR E00 and both are in stock at Kymco US (The safer # to order is the E01). $188.00 plus freight to you. You might as well just order from your local dealer.
CJS
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$188.00 plus freight to you. You might as well just order from your local dealer.
CJS
Suddenly GB£100 is not looking too bad at all !!
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I don't stock one, we are a 4 wheel dealer only, but I can order. Either of these PN's are good, 23100-LEA7-E01 OR E00 and both are in stock at Kymco US (The safer # to order is the E01). $188.00 plus freight to you. You might as well just order from your local dealer.
CJS
188 US plus shipping for a hundred dollar part...
No scooter dealer closer than 150 miles and he has no stock.
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Just finished two days at Solano Cycle. The only belt supposedly available is at Kymco USA for $188 USD which I am reluctant to do. Solano has no substitutes and NAPA came up empty on any cross with Gates or anyone else.
Now looking at taking a chance on ebay and don't like that either....beginning to think like John Grinsel....
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Just finished two days at Solano Cycle. The only belt supposedly available is at Kymco USA for $188 USD which I am reluctant to do. Solano has no substitutes and NAPA came up empty on any cross with Gates or anyone else.
Now looking at taking a chance on ebay and don't like that either....beginning to think like John Grinsel....
Karl, available in UK: https://www.bike-parts-kymco.uk/kymco-motorcycle/assignment_spare_parts/23100LEA7E01 $153 - what do you reckon it would cost for me to post it onto you?...
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Just finished two days at Solano Cycle. The only belt supposedly available is at Kymco USA for $188 USD which I am reluctant to do. Solano has no substitutes and NAPA came up empty on any cross with Gates or anyone else.
Now looking at taking a chance on ebay and don't like that either....beginning to think like John Grinsel....
Karl,
I've purchased Kymco parts from this guy on ebay.100% feedback rating. I like him. Read his feedback from customers.
If the numbers match....$129 and free shipping. Stuff was postmarked from Taiwan.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/132124646674?hash=item1ec33e1d12:g:XKwAAOSw~Clf3Gg0
He's selling E00 and E01
Stig
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Downtown 300i/People GTi300 23100-LEA7-E00 (LWA: 1004-24.5-28 Length mm - Width mm - Angle °). These dimensions are heresay read on here. Part number consistent with Kymco parts diagrams.
Why? You got one? How much shipped from where?
send me your address Ill send you one dee dee
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I got a spare belt for my UXV450i at my local NAPA, gave em my Kymco #, they cross referenced it, didn't have it in stock, but had it next day from warehouse
This is the easiest & cheapest way to get belts. I do the same for oil filters.
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send me your address Ill send you one dee dee
Sent pm..
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Neil, Stig, et al will wait and see what de dee has and very seriously considering that link on ebay. Right now, I am avoiding the rip od $188 USD for a belt that SHOULD LAST MORE THAN 20000 miles! That't nearly half of a Burgy belt!
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it is odd that the belt is that expensive..My People S200 belt was $70 or $80?
the belt for my Helix from Honda was $80 but a highly recommended belt from Gates was $24 on Amazon. I went with the Gates. i thought $24 was a steal, assuming it lasts.
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it is odd that the belt is that expensive..My People S200 belt was $70 or $80?
the belt for my Helix from Honda was $80 but a highly recommended belt from Gates was $24 on Amazon. I went with the Gates. i thought $24 was a steal, assuming it lasts.
Gates makes good stuff and most made here. There has to be, to my way of thinking, a way with length, width and angle to identify a substitution. But cannot find on the internet.
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I found it on Leeson's: https://www.leesonsarcticcat.com/oempartfinder. I also found many on ebay from $39 up to $140.
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Roosevelt Knox over on Kymco Riders of America (facebook) has 48000 MILES on his 2018 xtown with ORIGINAL BELT!
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I can think of a few high speed up-hill turning intersections where it would be great fun to find that I have, at last, pushed my belt to the breaking point.
To paraphrase others - most any new CVT belt is cheaper than the E.R.
Stig
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Roosevelt Knox over on Kymco Riders of America (facebook) has 48000 MILES on his 2018 xtown with ORIGINAL BELT!
Impressive longevity for a belt but like Stig the thought of walking, no way in hell I'm pushing that 500 anywhere.
It's worth it to me to have fresh tires, belt, battery and wear items for piece of mind. I'm comfortable with any Scooter/Motorcycle I own to set off on a cross country trip as far as reliability.
Others just buy a new scooter every few years for reliability.
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I can think of a few high speed up-hill turning intersections where it would be great fun to find that I have, at last, pushed my belt to the breaking point.
To paraphrase others - most any new CVT belt is cheaper than the E.R.
Stig
Stig I look at a lot of things in life like that now. I've been frugal all my life but now look at hiring high risk things done is far cheaper then medical bills.
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Impressive longevity for a belt but like Stig the thought of walking, no way in hell I'm pushing that 500 anywhere.
It's worth it to me to have fresh tires, belt, battery and wear items for piece of mind. I'm comfortable with any Scooter/Motorcycle I own to set off on a cross country trip as far as reliability.
Others just buy a new scooter every few years for reliability.
That's what John Grinsel does! Is not cheap and sentimental like me! I just was always skeptical about 12000 miles then replace! Thought it was way too short.
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That's what John Grinsel does! Is not cheap and sentimental like me! I just was always skeptical about 12000 miles then replace! Thought it was way too short.
With minimal care the longivity of these little engines is impressive. When I bought a parts scooter in Oklahoma (People 250) it shows 65k on the clock. The guy that had it said it had been in a shed for a few years. Within a hour after getting it home I had it running and drove it around the block. So much stuff is worn at that milage I don't know if it would make financial since to rebuild, even the brake rotors are paper thin.
Then again winters are long and I get bored watching TV so might look for used parts on ebay and put it back on the road. The body and paint are in very good condition.
I beleive John G would run his machines up to 50k miles in the past. He sold his 300 early.
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I agree KK, these days 50K miles on any reputable manufacturers’ machines ought to be easily achieved with minimal drama.
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I agree KK, these days 50K miles on any reputable manufacturers’ machines ought to be easily achieved with minimal drama.
Even at 50k these machines are serviceable to get many more miles from. The issue for me is I can pick up extremely low mileage machines for less money then the cost of a rebuild.
This year the tide is turning and used prices have gone up to the break even point on rebuilding or low mileage used. I have also found I'm fond of certain models such as the Grandvista and People S. The Xicting series is a excellent road scooter but very large and heavy.
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I had a China belt on my GV250 fail at 1000 miles. I have had good luck so far with Gates at around $35. Gates has been making belts in the USA forever.
mjr(Mike) is repairing a Burgman650 transmission and he said the belt, which is OK, is more like a chain; it has links and is not at all like the belts on Kymcos. It has 60K miles on it! If you figure ours need replacing at 12K then $450 is not an outrageous price.
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I used the eBay seller that Stig recommended and bought a Drive Belt and Dr. Pulley Slider weights for my People GT 300i on Friday, and I received them today (Tuesday). 2 business days from Taiwan is pretty good IMO.
Including shipping fees the OEM Belt was $138.68 and the Dr. Pulley Sliders were $84.93.
Not the deal of a lifetime, but not a rip off either.
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I used the eBay seller that Stig recommended and bought a Drive Belt and Dr. Pulley Slider weights for my People GT 300i on Friday, and I received them today (Tuesday). 2 business days from Taiwan is pretty good IMO.
Including shipping fees the OEM Belt was $138.68 and the Dr. Pulley Sliders were $84.93.
Not the deal of a lifetime, but not a rip off either.
138.68 in USD? That's pretty good considering the global situation.
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I used the eBay seller that Stig recommended and bought a Drive Belt and Dr. Pulley Slider weights for my People GT 300i on Friday, and I received them today (Tuesday). 2 business days from Taiwan is pretty good IMO.
Including shipping fees the OEM Belt was $138.68 and the Dr. Pulley Sliders were $84.93.
Not the deal of a lifetime, but not a rip off either.
Good deal on the belt and shipping time!
B u t ....think https://www.buggypartsnw.com might beat that Dr Pulley price!
I've purchased all my Dr P's from buggypartsnw over the years.
Stig
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Good deal on the belt and shipping time!
B u t ....think https://www.buggypartsnw.com (https://www.buggypartsnw.com) might beat that Dr Pulley price!
I've purchased all my Dr P's from buggypartsnw over the years.
Stig
Thanks for the link Stig. I'll add it to my Kymco bookmarks.
I did realize after I ordered that the price for the Dr. Pulley was a little high. However with the convenience of getting everything from one vendor and the quick shipping time I am not going to lose any sleep over it.
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138.68 in USD? That's pretty good considering the global situation.
Yes, US Dollars.
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https://www.amazon.com/Tencasi-Compatible-23100-LEA7-E01-2012-2015-2010-2015/dp/B08TTVKMN4/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=23100-lea7-e01&qid=1630528039&sr=8-3
Has anyone tried one of these? I know, I know! Just...
Went to Motion Industries today, in person. Motion, owned by Genuine Parts Corp. also owns NAPA. Shortened story, Gates does not make or sub the belt for the LEA7 engine/transmission unit.
So, we are stuck with Mitsuboshi, Malossi, Polini and these guys at Amazon. Not discounting ebay at all, but at least I can get my moolah back from Amazon.
So. Original question: anyone try one of these china belts yet?
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Amazon guy has a lousy customer rating, 33% negative.
I wouldn't touch an ebay buyer with less than a 98% positive rating. Usually only purchase from 100% sellers.
PayPal is rock solid payment method, also backed by your credit card. [not mine - your's! :)]
Again, Kymco OEM at $129 with free 4 day shipping seems reasonable.
Stig
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Amazon guy has a lousy customer rating, 33% negative.
I wouldn't touch an ebay buyer with less than a 98% positive rating. Usually only purchase from 100% sellers.
PayPal is rock solid payment method, also backed ny your credit card.
Again, Kymco OEM at $129 with free 4 day shipping seems reasonable.
Stig
I completely agree with Stig on this. I've used PayPal for years as well. I've had a hand full of bad experience in over a 1000 purchases on ebay. If I didn't receive my shipment PayPal made it right.
I even use it to purchase used scooters from people in other states. You can use PayPal in stores as well. I use the 6 months no interest for large purchases. Just don't go over or you'll pay 29%
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Stig and KK, good info and I am listening. I am also early on belt-tightening because 1. Funds are limited 2. Inflation is ramping up 3. Parts are gonna get even more scarce and 4. I'm cheapo!
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Understand completely, I don't have any experience with aftermarket belts longivity. Inflation is definitely a factor around here, example a Harbor freight motorcycle lift table was $299. a couple of years ago now $499. A trailer I purchased last year went up $200. Then my 12'x12' building had a 30% surcharge for increased material cost. I wanted to build a new garage but will not pay the surcharge so the new garage was put on hold..
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Understand completely, I don't have any experience with aftermarket belts longivity. Inflation is definitely a factor around here, example a Harbor freight motorcycle lift table was $299. a couple of years ago now $499. A trailer I purchased last year went up $200. Then my 12'x12' building had a 30% surcharge for increased material cost. I wanted to build a new garage but will not pay the surcharge so the new garage was put on hold..
Most all of Harbor Freight is china stuff. Price rise part inflation and maybe part tariffs...
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Most all of Harbor Freight is china stuff. Price rise part inflation and maybe part tariffs...
LOL most of the stuff, what in Harbor Freight is American made. Steel prices have gone up a lot.
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LOL most of the stuff, what in Harbor Freight is American made. Steel prices have gone up a lot.
REALLY?! Been a while since I was there but did NOT know that! Yeah, steel is up! Knew that and did not consider. Tanx!
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REALLY?! Been a while since I was there but did NOT know that! Yeah, steel is up! Knew that and did not consider. Tanx!
Harbor Freight's name is very accurate the stuff comes off the boat from China.
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Harbor Freight's name is very accurate the stuff comes off the boat from China.
Eh? Which way is it? Yankee or chinee?