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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mscmkr on October 19, 2014, 05:28:54 AM
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Coming home from work I watched a cop sitting on the side of the road waving in 50cc scoots. There was more than one and they were not together. They looked very happy so I'm thinking he may have been giving them tickets for impeding the flow of traffic. I have been seeing more of them going down a larger main street where I drive to and from work. I guess someone called and complained to the police.
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may have been giving them tickets for impeding the flow of traffic
Phoenix location? Posted speed?
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Thunderbird rd at around 79 ave. I believe the speed limit there is 40.
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Yea here they need a low power scooter registration, which is cheap no reason to not have it. A DL and have liability insurance. Many do not have those requirements.
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Thunderbird rd at around 79 ave. I believe the speed limit there is 40.
Google street view (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6101627,-112.2286579,3a,75y,293.37h,79.51t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sChlR404yqOLEBb4wSXYdQQ!2e0?hl=en).
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I find it odd that the most economical form of transportation (approx 100 gallons of fuel for the entire year) takes so much heat from the general public. 50cc terrorists should be awarded for what we do.
To hell w/ the nay sayers!
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Speculating this enforcement action may have included other attributes (http://www.kpho.com/story/23975208/unlicensed-marijuana-delivery-services-flood-valley) . . Drugs Inc (http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/drugs-inc/episodes/cartel-city-arizona/).
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Oh. Well that explains everything. I guess the Liquor stores are feeling the pinch, and loosing customers.
Has anyone noticed that rolling papers now cost almost three bucks? WTF?? ?? ??
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Upon looking at the street view I commented, "Wow, not alot of green in that shot."
Hold up your rights and ask, "What crime am I being suspected of?" You don't have to show ID unless suspected of a crime, riding a scoot of less than 50 cc does not give resonable suspicion IMO.
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The last few weeks I have been seeing the little scoots slowing traffic like crazy. I come up on a line of cars in the other lane going slow and by the time I get to the front there's a toa toa slowing things to a crawl. Makes me think someone may have called the police and complained. Just a guess of course.
Now, if there delivering pot it's the slowest delivery system ever. I would love to be on that call. "Sure, we can get that out to you. Sit back and relax and it will be there in about 2 hours!"
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Why are drugs eventually part of scooter discussions??
I found this and thought it was interesting:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fazbikelaw.org%2Fblog%2Fmoped-and-motorized-bicycles-in-arizona%2F&ei=jjhEVN3JLIeYyQTTroG4Dw&usg=AFQjCNFdRphYTxS7dYt1dyVzkCE5UBsqfw&sig2=glrRCGhsreh8-buxMMdZrA (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fazbikelaw.org%2Fblog%2Fmoped-and-motorized-bicycles-in-arizona%2F&ei=jjhEVN3JLIeYyQTTroG4Dw&usg=AFQjCNFdRphYTxS7dYt1dyVzkCE5UBsqfw&sig2=glrRCGhsreh8-buxMMdZrA)
Laws relating to 2 wheel vehicles of any kind are quite complex in all of Arizona and more so in phoenix. Leo's may have found that the smaller-weed eater type scooter riders aren't complying with DMV laws on registration, insurance and licensing, so they are checking them out. 49cc scooters that are hopped up to go faster than the law says (30 mph) are in violation of the 49cc scooter laws and become 'motorcycles' as far as the law is concerned.
A crack head, DUI convicted rider of a scooter under 50cc, riding double, with flip flops, no helmet and gym trunks, pulling in and out of traffic, with no registration, license nor insurance of any kind, is an accident waiting to happen and may cause a situation where innocent people are harmed or killed so as far as I'm concerned, profile them and pull them all over and check them out and if they don't comply then confiscate the scoot until compliance is met, for the scoot and rider. Oh and check for Zig-Zags, drugs and kiddie porn.
Yes, I am a very pro-law enforcement person:)
Sam:)
Sam:)
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LOL! They'll never get my Zig Zags!
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I'm with porkie on this. They are not getting pulled over because of the speed issue. They are getting pulled over because the majority of people riding them are violated registration laws. Look at the minimum speed laws on the freeways it's 40 on a 55 or a 65 mph road. that's a whole 15-25 mph less. So on a road that is 40 MPH doing 30 is very much within the law. Now if your only doing 15 -20 then maybe they might go after you. So the speed thing does not hold water for that reason.
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Cops around here are geting smart.they know the law on mopeds is 30 to 35.any scoot thats been moded to go faster can get a tickit and is told to get a cycle indorsement on it.they say anythink that has a big bore on it .its needs to come back off.
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I said this before...
What about the un-skilled guy/gal that can not afford a car to get that 8.50 an hour job that's 8 miles from home in a town w/ no public transport.
Want to support them on welfare? I F'n dont! If 50cc's is all someone can do, and they do NOT have the money to pay for all the bureaucratic BS to support wars/welfare/lobbyists... Leave them to do the best they can
I'll put my house on the fact there are MANY more thousands of convicted felons riding around in cars that have nothing but a stolen gun, and a gram of meth in the glove box (no reg. no insc/no title) that OUR tax dollars (welfare) paid for.
Suppose this, and suppose that... You all know I am right.
You can tell I'm sort of sick of the people that have NO CLUE how hard life is for some. I've given away more scooters/bicycles than I can remember, just so people have a way to get to work.
When it come to pearly gates time... I'll be the sniper behind St Pete. Some of you might have him fooled but give me a clean line...
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Everyone makes there own choice in life.if they make that choice to live far away from work then thats up to theam to get to work how ever they can. Put be smart about it.
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Some people have no choices Blue. There are people that have been beat down since birth, and still fight the good fight but their choices are limited.
The "all they have to do is ask for help" crap is exactly that... crap. The people that TAKE all the "help" are the reason. Go down to any welfare office, and tell me what you see. Dozens of women w/ hair/nails/clothes done "just right". Each one of them DROVE there. Their 4.5 kids, are at the doctors every other day for an allergy, or a fever or some other nonsense. They are there because they were taught how to run the system. ALL of the "baby daddies" are sitting around drinking, and playing video games or making more baby mommas.
Now you take a woman that was beat down from day one. Kicked out at 15. Two babies by 19, and not one person to ever help her. If she can get to the welfare place they tell her a dozen times to "bring in something else".
How's this gal gonna get a sitter for the kids to even take a job?
The job she gets is min. wage, and part time (so the employer doesn't have to insure her). The food stamps she does get pay only for the cheapest crap food you can buy. The churches give out what the parishioner's give... Canned pumpkin.
Someone (like me) gives her a scooter so she can regain some sense of worth. One week later some cop "just doing his job" takes the scoot. Leaves her w/ a sh** ton of tickets she can Never pay, and she looses her job.
WHY? Cause the ones that can afford to pay INSIST that she pays her way too. You can't get blood from a stone. Oddly enough al lot of these broken stones are much better people inside than a lot of the "pillars" of our communities.
You tell that broken stone to move closer to work. I sure as hell won't! It might be the straw that breaks that camels back.
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Now you take a woman that was beat down from day one. Kicked out at 15. Two babies by 19, and not one person to ever help her. If she can get to the welfare place they tell her a dozen times to "bring in something else".
"How's this gal gonna get a sitter for the kids to even take a job?
The job she gets is min. wage, and part time (so the employer doesn't have to insure her). The food stamps she does get pay only for the cheapest crap food you can buy. The churches give out what the parishioner's give... Canned pumpkin.
Someone (like me) gives her a scooter so she can regain some sense of worth. One week later some cop "just doing his job" takes the scoot. Leaves her w/ a sh** ton of tickets she can Never pay, and she looses her job.
WHY? Cause the ones that can afford to pay INSIST that she pays her way too. You can't get blood from a stone. Oddly enough al lot of these broken stones are much better people inside than a lot of the "pillars" of our communities. "
There are a lot of unfortunate people all over the world who could use some help: Let me take it from rhetoric to action; How many of you that lament these so called injustices actually give more than your words to the problem? Do you donate your time at all in the community to help relief organization and the needy, or do you just talk about it? Do YOU donate to the local Churches by tithes, offerings or to put GOOD food in their community food banks? Do you voluntarily pay more city/ state. federal taxes every year--you know, to help the economy?
The "canned pumpkin" comment made me laugh:) It is not the truth, but what on this forum can be taken for truth or just tongue in cheek?
We have tons of relief and charitable organizations where I live. As in my Church and others, the shelves are flowing with for an example, Sausage patties and links, fresh eggs, all types of bread products, pastas, canned and fresh vegetables and the same for fruit and last but not least the ever popular pastries!
The needy, with NO MEANS TESTING by the way are just invited to come in and load up of food stuffs--no accounting and no problem.
Almost every Church in town has a food bank and lots of the non-profit relief agencies have free hot meals daily.
The Salvation Army in my town also provides many other benefits to the needy, even needy travelers--no questions asked. Hot and nutritious meals are served every day at noon. Job counseling, family planning, fun nights for kids, help with rent, gas and electric bills and prescriptions--etc etc. Spiritual counseling is also provided for the troubled and anyone else asking for it.
I have been involved, on a voluntary basis with the Salvation Army since 1995 in emergency communications (KF6GUW) and have been a member of their advisory board for about 10 years and Chairman of the Board for 8 years. I am also involved with other Churches and relief organizations and their food banks and outreach services. I really do so little compared to some but I try.
We, the SA are giving away free turkey's and food boxes for Thanksgiving, the same for Christmas, with the addition of lots of new toys for the children.
My Church, is also involved with supporting the needy in many ways to become nourished physically and spiritually!!!!!
All of this sounds a little more substantial than a can of pumpkin pulp, which isn't bad if one wants a delicious pumpkin pie!
So, have the rest of you examined your hearts and found that just talking about problems does nothing--unless you are free associating in your Psychiatrists office:)
DO SOMETHING to help rectify these perceived social ills: Actually buy some needy person a scooter, with full insurance coverage, a nice helmet and some riding instructions and maybe some gasoline once in a while. Help stock you local food banks, donate your time and MONEY to actually help others, teach a literacy class, a computer class or cut grass for someone.
The "Welfare Queen" job is highly sought after in this twisted society, with all of the free goodies and it's hard to kick the habit of living on other peoples tax money.
By the way, the LEO's can't selectively just make arbitrary decisions to not pull some people over based on an assumed social deficit issue. Maybe some would want the poor to be forced to wear a bright green jacket with a big 'W' stenciled on it, so Law enforcement could just leave them alone.
If you want to change society then do something to change it in a POSITIVE way.
Sam:)
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I sure hope that was to all the others that bitch but do nothing...
I give till it hurts. Every frigin' day.
Salvation Army is one of the better charities I know of. They do help. Unfortunately their nearest office is 60 miles from here. The working poor here in Franklin County are "land locked". Our churches have nothing to give except what people like me set up for them. I set up a program here where illegal fish (under size/out of season) are no longer photoed, and dumped. They are frozen, and taken to the church pantry. Right down the street from me.
I don't want to measure manhood... I stand tall here.
Your point is 100% correct. People should do ANYTHING to help. Here most do Fish Fry's to collect if there is an illness/fire/flood whatever. Most of my county are "WORKING POOR".
I do my share and more...
One other thing... DON"T "tithe" the crutch. As you said sir... Buy the insurance for a single mom instead. ALL of the money goes to helping, and not painting a new door for more "tithers" to enter thru.
I believe we are on the same page. No offense meant.
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Zombie, you don't have to call me 'Sir' unless we are around the other enlisted men:)
No offense taken on your opinions.
I preach sermons in the local communities on occasion and I always remind people that "ACTION' is what is needed and that means getting up off your butts and doing something instead of talking about it. Spread the good word of the Gospel of Jesus Christ to an immoral and starving world. Love GOD and your neighbor as yourself. Be a beacon of light in a dark harbor and lead people to Christ and their salvation. Help each other, especially those in need. Our great commission as Christian's is to spread the word of GOD.
Society can't condone lawlessness or it leads to anarchy and social collapse.
Sam:)
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I would assume that they are not wearing clothing that says "please don't stop me...I am traveling
to my job and this is all I can afford". And I would also assume that not every one of the scooters stopped fit that scenario but if they did proper consideration might be given. Also the cops don't know this until they actually stop them and speak to the rider. I would bet that far more of them are trying to the cheat the law than make a living.....whether it's helping the environment or not. Finally..............It would never hurt to pull up to one of the cops and make a friendly inquiry, noting that you are an avid scooterist.
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Charity rts in the home, and expands out to our neighboors, I can only hope that we all do a little something for our aging or poor neighboors. My problem is the govt. stepping in and taking it from me and in the amounts they determin are sizable enough.
It's a tough line to hold, wanting to give but not be taken advantage of. I always ask this question, who can spend my money better, me or some govt? The answer is always me. And if I want to give on a larger scale there are places like Habitat for humanity, the Salvation army etc. to turn to for more across the board sharing.
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Hey Sarge. I forgot you could see these posts... ;) I'm not slamming the law for doing what we ask them to do. No way!
I do get upset when circumstance is not weighed into a decision tho. Absolutely when some raggedass hippie is "skirting the system... Lock his Bohemian ass up, and add whatever charges you can. Intended Mopery is one of my personal favorites. Intent to loiter is almost as good. I was actually convicted once of accessory to littering after a Jury trial. (we trashed my buddies car in the woods)
We have a new State Trooper here. This guy is FRESH out of the army. Guess what? 9 arrests in his first week.
Every cop in this county added together did less than 1/2 of that. Yes he got four DUI's and the rest were Paraphernalia/possession (weed), expired tags (misdemeanor), disorderly conduct/resisting w/o violence, obstructing governmental administration. Everything but the DUI's are "Judgment calls on behalf of the officer.
He didn't have to arrest the other 5 but he did want to make a statement. He did! He also lives right smack dab in the center of town here.
Small towns, and the word spreads before his shift is done. I am afraid he will not have a soul here to befriend him.
If that does not bother the fella so be it. IMHO that bothers everyone.
Just saying... It's easy to get over zealous about anything. Church/charity work/giving all your free time to work for people that can't pay/enforcing the law.
Circumstances are the key to moderation. If Porkie ran to the church EVERY time some crack head decided he "found God" he would never be home to enjoy his family. If 008 gave every penny to "salvation Army" his family would starve. If I couldn't read who is trying to "use" me, I'd be the one in the shelter. If this new cop arrests every person for every thing in the book, he will have no community.
I forgot the point... Oh yeah! Love ya Sarge! I know, you know what the point was.
You know it's funny. 314 views, and it's al;ways 6-7 of us posting. Wonder what the rest of the world thinks... ?
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Been there done that.then I divorced it.know fell sorry for some and try to keep my self on the right track.
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I married a gal that has issues as well. I haven't seen her in 6ish years but I hear when she gets locked up/ re-hab/ looney bin.
It's actually the best marriage I've had. Go figure.
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Hey Sarge. I forgot you could see these posts... ;) I'm not slamming the law for doing what we ask them to do. No way!
I do get upset when circumstance is not weighed into a decision tho. Absolutely when some raggedass hippie is "skirting the system... Lock his Bohemian ass up, and add whatever charges you can. Intended Mopery is one of my personal favorites. Intent to loiter is almost as good. I was actually convicted once of accessory to littering after a Jury trial. (we trashed my buddies car in the woods)
We have a new State Trooper here. This guy is FRESH out of the army. Guess what? 9 arrests in his first week.
Every cop in this county added together did less than 1/2 of that. Yes he got four DUI's and the rest were Paraphernalia/possession (weed), expired tags (misdemeanor), disorderly conduct/resisting w/o violence, obstructing governmental administration. Everything but the DUI's are "Judgment calls on behalf of the officer.
He didn't have to arrest the other 5 but he did want to make a statement. He did! He also lives right smack dab in the center of town here.
Small towns, and the word spreads before his shift is done. I am afraid he will not have a soul here to befriend him.
If that does not bother the fella so be it. IMHO that bothers everyone.
Just saying... It's easy to get over zealous about anything. Church/charity work/giving all your free time to work for people that can't pay/enforcing the law.
Circumstances are the key to moderation. If Porkie ran to the church EVERY time some crack head decided he "found God" he would never be home to enjoy his family. If 008 gave every penny to "salvation Army" his family would starve. If I couldn't read who is trying to "use" me, I'd be the one in the shelter. If this new cop arrests every person for every thing in the book, he will have no community.
I forgot the point... Oh yeah! Love ya Sarge! I know, you know what the point was.
You know it's funny. 314 views, and it's al;ways 6-7 of us posting. Wonder what the rest of the world thinks... ?
I try not to think...uses Grey cells (matter ) I want to save for older years ;)
Zombie- you know what/how I give . Wish more people would Volunteer ... it makes a big difference !
I donate money,food,time,and lightly used items when I can
I believe that "Tithing" WAY more than 10 percent of my Time can be of more help than "Tithing" to a building (church ) . The Vatican has WAY more wealth than any other Entity on Earth...maybe all their Gilded thins,JJewels,Gold could be put to better use than adorning buildings. JMHO
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My points exactly Sis!
My entire family was/is Roman Catholic. Talk about TRAUMA as a kid. The entire concept still bothers me.
You nailed it on the head. The Vatican is the richest corporation on the planet. What bothers me is I am not sure I trust their "Business Plan" any more than their "Mission Statement".
Did I ever tell the one about the Priest, and the little kid walking off into the woods?
Punch line is... You're right kid. It is getting dark, and I have to walk out of here alone!
Ooooooooooo. Deep, and dark! Sadly.
Here is the man that rules the world...
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My points exactly Sis!
My entire family was/is Roman Catholic. Talk about TRAUMA as a kid. The entire concept still bothers me.
You nailed it on the head. The Vatican is the richest corporation on the planet. What bothers me is I am not sure I trust their "Business Plan" any more than their "Mission Statement".
Did I ever tell the one about the Priest, and the little kid walking off into the woods?
Punch line is... You're right kid. It is getting dark, and I have to walk out of here alone!
Ooooooooooo. Deep, and dark! Sadly.
Here is the man that rules the world...
And here's the kid :-X
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ORRRR.....He could have ended up on a 50cc scooter. Can't go after a guy for doing what he is paid/trained to do. Most cops believe they are superhero's when they first start. I believe that we all thought that when we first started something new. Very few of us were "seasoned" starters. Also...you need to take into consideration this guys recent past. He was probably in a place where he trusted no one and everyone was there to hurt him. He may also be taking out some stored up aggression. This too shall pass. For the exact reason that Zombie stated. Community acceptance. Do some of the "boys" remain idiots for their entire career? Of course they do! But these are the guys that usually get shuffled around a lot to take heat off of their superiors. As far as the " judgment calls" some are/some are not. Believe it or not, the DUI's are an easier judgment call than the rest.
As for the jist of some of the other comments about donating time and goods, I must say this. And let me add that I am not a huge political fanatic in any way. Donating our time, money etc....is a beautiful thing and I have no doubt that most of use who are active in this post do. But why is it different if it is something offered for "free" by the government. If they do it, it's them spending "our" money and only giving it to those who don't need it. If we do it, everything is perfect and the system should be adjusted to fit that particular person or situation.
As far as the priest and kids story....don't get me started. I investigated a horrible case of sexual abuse by a priest. It cost seven young men in my small community their lives due to suicide. Is he in prison....NO!.... He is now in a smaller church somewhere out west.
Also, I visited the Vatican a few years back while in Italy. My description of it is basically a religious Disneyland. Money, money, money. Lines to get in. Lines to get out. Gift shops....Ugh!!! You can actually pay someone to stand on line for you while waiting hours to get inside. Is it beautiful? Unbelievable.
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Touche!
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Good morning gent's!!
I think we are all basically on the same page and we would all be happier if we could somehow change the world to be a wonderful place to live for everyone.
Amongst other things, I find myself praying more and more for world peace. If you make a list of all of the conflict going on right now, it is alarming: City against county against State against the DC establishment and worse, DC against all the aforementioned.
On the world scene, it is even worse as hardly any country can feel secure from a despot running a corrupt and terrible regime.
Chemical, biological, nuclear and conventional weapons all aimed at each other. Radical terrorist and anarchist on every continent with nothing better to do than wreak havoc.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQFjAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.biblegateway.com%2Fpassage%2F%3Fsearch%3DMatthew%2B24%253A6%26version%3DKJV&ei=sP9MVOWYBsyuyASypYLgAg&usg=AFQjCNGiNNqmKr2bSIFEBJa9drBZ5yPuXQ&sig2=JrsgWMVSKq9hXbmbgxemZA&bvm=bv.77880786,d.aWw (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQFjAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.biblegateway.com%2Fpassage%2F%3Fsearch%3DMatthew%2B24%253A6%26version%3DKJV&ei=sP9MVOWYBsyuyASypYLgAg&usg=AFQjCNGiNNqmKr2bSIFEBJa9drBZ5yPuXQ&sig2=JrsgWMVSKq9hXbmbgxemZA&bvm=bv.77880786,d.aWw)
Have a great day!
Sam:)
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I said this before...
What about the un-skilled guy/gal that can not afford a car to get that 8.50 an hour job that's 8 miles from home in a town w/ no public transport.
Want to support them on welfare? I F'n dont! If 50cc's is all someone can do, and they do NOT have the money to pay for all the bureaucratic BS to support wars/welfare/lobbyists... Leave them to do the best they can
I'll put my house on the fact there are MANY more thousands of convicted felons riding around in cars that have nothing but a stolen gun, and a gram of meth in the glove box (no reg. no insc/no title) that OUR tax dollars (welfare) paid for.
Suppose this, and suppose that... You all know I am right.
You can tell I'm sort of sick of the people that have NO CLUE how hard life is for some. I've given away more scooters/bicycles than I can remember, just so people have a way to get to work.
When it come to pearly gates time... I'll be the sniper behind St Pete. Some of you might have him fooled but give me a clean line...
No, I don't know you're right. And I have a HUGE clue of how hard life is. My first 50cc bike I saved for three years to get, and I knew that insurance and registration was going to be part of the cost of ownership. I walked to work until I had the money to get it. Laziness is no excuse for breaking the law. Those same people that ride unregistered and uninsured will be the first ones to sue someone when they get in an accident, regardless of who's fault it is. Oh, and if you want to get religious about it, good deeds don't get you any special passes at the pearly gates.
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Amen Brother.......I like this guy. Anyone wanna talk about scooters? Too brisk of a day to ride here in New York......I gotta find something creative to do during the JETS game.
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"We are saved by faith through grace and NOT by works." Works are the icing on the cake that gives our love to others.
It is 80 degrees here in SW Missouri!!!!!!! I am still mowing in almost November!
I will ride tomorrow for sure as this sure can't last much longer!
Sam:)
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Leaves are a blowing here in the Hudson Valley. Making the best of it though...smoker going in the driveway with brisket, ribs, wings and potato's. Game on in the background...some classic 40's music playing....cold beer, iced bourbon and a cheap cigar. Wife and I love these "redneck" Sundays. Would I rather be riding......maybe yes/ maybe no. One thing I do know is that I would love to have some of you guys here to share some good food, drink and laughs. Enjoy the rest of your weekend(s). If you're riding..be safe.
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Acranum, I get it.
I also know you are right. Without talking face to face w/ someone it is hard for me to express myself, and I tend to over emphasize/dramatize simple statement to convey my point.
There are quite a few sides to every story, and we indeed all do appear to be on the same page. There are no real zealots here.
I love Sarges idea. We should all be sitting in a cigar smoked room full of good food, and loved ones. That's the bottom line we all seek. Peace, and contentment. Now WHY don't the Govt.s of the world get this??
Just a parting note... I have no misconceptions about getting thru those "Pearly Gates" but I do offer my services as a "bouncer".
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Is Roadhouse one of your favorite movies? Never took you as Patrick Swayze guy.
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I keep his offspring under my bed. They survive on "dust bunnies", and air from a blow drier.
Swayze was a full on Bee'atch. In fact I'd like to bring him back as a zombie so I can kill him again.
Just sayin'
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Average Temp 58....in my backyard? 81 !! Think I'll hang here today and ride tomorrow.
Might have to get the smoker going, now...just trimmed the peach tree ...good wood to use . Hmmmm.....
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That sounds awesome. We usually use hickory or cherry. I like apple but's hard to come bye untreated. That peach sound great. I would imagine a nice mellow/light smoke. enjoy your ride
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That sounds awesome. We usually use hickory or cherry. I like apple but's hard to come bye untreated. That peach sound great. I would imagine a nice mellow/light smoke. enjoy your ride
WE often cut some Black Cherry from the saplings near the stream...have Tart and Sweet Cherry Trees , as well. Peach is a nice mellow smoke.
Leaving for ride , now... Flu vaccine here I come !
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There some people that do need the help.but there also those abuseing the system they dont dont need the help.the way the world is today you dont know who to trust.
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Not too many LEO's chasing 50cc leafblower powered scooters anymore as it was 22 degrees yesterday morning.
Well, the Goldwing and the 2 scooters are going to be on their coveted hydraulic lift and covered up, battery tenders in place, awaiting their resurrection in about March! Oh the humanity!!!
Sam:)