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Xciting 500 / Re: Xciting 500 backrest
« on: June 04, 2019, 04:43:50 PM »
My scooter is in the workshop but I found this on my phone.
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Technical | How To / Re: Cool website to compare tire sizes....
« on: May 29, 2019, 01:31:35 PM »
Nice find Stig. Thanks for sharing.
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Xciting 500 / Re: Xciting 500 backrest
« on: May 23, 2019, 09:49:17 AM »
I stripped down that useless original backrest.
I then went to the hardware store and bought various roof strut brackets (because they had the shape and strength), and built up a vertical frame on the base.I just screwed everything together with short nuts and bolts.
Then I took that to a car upholsterer, and had a backrest mounted over my frame, and it is totally awesome.
It aways gets comments.
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I then went to the hardware store and bought various roof strut brackets (because they had the shape and strength), and built up a vertical frame on the base.I just screwed everything together with short nuts and bolts.
Then I took that to a car upholsterer, and had a backrest mounted over my frame, and it is totally awesome.
It aways gets comments.
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Technical | How To / Re: Oil in water xciting 500
« on: May 20, 2019, 02:03:50 PM »
Well folks, some news on this ongoing saga.
The original gasket arrived from Italy, and a copper copy will be made(in the process)
This is the situation :
. 36mm material was shaved off.
I could not find an exact thickness of copper sheeting, and engineering the thickness seems to be problematic and not very accurate(according to one engineering company)
I can get .8mm , 1mm and 1.5mm.
During discussions with the bike shop, the barrel gasket split apart into two gaskets while handling and measuring its thickness.
gasket thickness for reference:
head=0.8mm at inner cylinder edge(thickest)
barrel=0.5mm
I checked with two bike shops, and they both stated that the barrel would only have one gasket, so the extra gasket was a mistake by the shipper(Kymco)
cool, right?
It is cool because that takes care of 0.25mm,leaving 0.11mm still to be covered.
According to the bike shops(2),the copper will expand when it is annealed.
I cant get figures on degree of expansion, but it at least whittles away at that 0.11mm
Furthermore,the mechanic where my bike is , and the other shop(where I am double checking everything), both are of the opinion that 0.11mm will still be workable in that no valves will hit the piston. The piston does have valve recesses.
The compression will increase slightly.
That last sentence does concern me, as these 500's do battle to start in the cold, but I have actually got that problem sorted, but still, I am still concerned.
So now, the decisions have been made, and it is just to wait to see what happens on assembly.
No, I am not buying another bike.
I might consider a new barrel if I don't have to sell my house to get it.
My stomach is all in knots whether this work out.
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The original gasket arrived from Italy, and a copper copy will be made(in the process)
This is the situation :
. 36mm material was shaved off.
I could not find an exact thickness of copper sheeting, and engineering the thickness seems to be problematic and not very accurate(according to one engineering company)
I can get .8mm , 1mm and 1.5mm.
During discussions with the bike shop, the barrel gasket split apart into two gaskets while handling and measuring its thickness.
gasket thickness for reference:
head=0.8mm at inner cylinder edge(thickest)
barrel=0.5mm
I checked with two bike shops, and they both stated that the barrel would only have one gasket, so the extra gasket was a mistake by the shipper(Kymco)
cool, right?
It is cool because that takes care of 0.25mm,leaving 0.11mm still to be covered.
According to the bike shops(2),the copper will expand when it is annealed.
I cant get figures on degree of expansion, but it at least whittles away at that 0.11mm
Furthermore,the mechanic where my bike is , and the other shop(where I am double checking everything), both are of the opinion that 0.11mm will still be workable in that no valves will hit the piston. The piston does have valve recesses.
The compression will increase slightly.
That last sentence does concern me, as these 500's do battle to start in the cold, but I have actually got that problem sorted, but still, I am still concerned.
So now, the decisions have been made, and it is just to wait to see what happens on assembly.
No, I am not buying another bike.
I might consider a new barrel if I don't have to sell my house to get it.
My stomach is all in knots whether this work out.
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Technical | How To / Re: Oil in water xciting 500
« on: April 21, 2019, 09:31:42 AM »
I have not been able to get any info on the thickness of the original new head gasket.
I am now waiting for the one from the post office (paid for already - so preferred), and /or the other one from Yamaha.
When I picked up an original air filter from Yamaha the other day (a pre-order), I was advised that he is waiting for corporate Taiwan to respond to my request.
And that is where we stand.
Can't move forward until I have an accurate measurement.
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I am now waiting for the one from the post office (paid for already - so preferred), and /or the other one from Yamaha.
When I picked up an original air filter from Yamaha the other day (a pre-order), I was advised that he is waiting for corporate Taiwan to respond to my request.
And that is where we stand.
Can't move forward until I have an accurate measurement.
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Downtown 300 / Re: What plug are you using
« on: April 17, 2019, 01:43:15 PM »
I also am a fan of iridium plugs. The Cr8eix my xciting 500 takes has given me problem free riding in terms of spark.
I especially like that I don't have so change it often, as it is a tight space to get it out.
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I especially like that I don't have so change it often, as it is a tight space to get it out.
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Technical | How To / Re: Oil in water xciting 500
« on: April 12, 2019, 06:31:31 AM »
I spoke to the local ex kymco agent, who I am on friendly terms with, and he indicated that the two copper gasket idea is best.
But even as an agent, he can't provide a thickness for the head gasket.
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But even as an agent, he can't provide a thickness for the head gasket.
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Technical | How To / Re: Oil in water xciting 500
« on: April 11, 2019, 03:06:23 PM »
Ok Folks, something is beginning to happen here at last.
The head and barrel came back from the engineers, but the barrel had to be returned, as they said it was fine , but mechanic said not so, and when it was returned the second time it had 0.3mm milled off!
The head got a 0.06mm shave.
I am going to get a copper gasket made, but the barrel/cylinder skim exceeded the warpage allowed. (0.05mm)
The mechanic suggests adding that 0.05 to the barrel gasket(at the bottom, which will put the top of the barrel at the correct height for the head gasket.
Then the copper gasket only needs to be 0.06mm thicker than stock.
Workable?
Head max warpage is also 0.05mm, so skim of 0.03mm is within spec on this part.
That was part one of the story.
Part two is :
I need to know what the uncompressed thickness of the stock head gasket for a kymco xciting 500 Ri 2010 is.
I have a manual but I only see working clearances for the metal engine parts, not for gaskets.
How can I get this info, or can you assist?
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The head and barrel came back from the engineers, but the barrel had to be returned, as they said it was fine , but mechanic said not so, and when it was returned the second time it had 0.3mm milled off!
The head got a 0.06mm shave.
I am going to get a copper gasket made, but the barrel/cylinder skim exceeded the warpage allowed. (0.05mm)
The mechanic suggests adding that 0.05 to the barrel gasket(at the bottom, which will put the top of the barrel at the correct height for the head gasket.
Then the copper gasket only needs to be 0.06mm thicker than stock.
Workable?
Head max warpage is also 0.05mm, so skim of 0.03mm is within spec on this part.
That was part one of the story.
Part two is :
I need to know what the uncompressed thickness of the stock head gasket for a kymco xciting 500 Ri 2010 is.
I have a manual but I only see working clearances for the metal engine parts, not for gaskets.
How can I get this info, or can you assist?
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Xciting 250 / Re: Xciting weird RPM after reset ECU ? CELP
« on: April 10, 2019, 07:52:49 AM »
The O2 sensor could be faulty.
The throttle body also has a sensor, something to do with the butterfly valve.
I would check these two things, and reset CELP again.
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The throttle body also has a sensor, something to do with the butterfly valve.
I would check these two things, and reset CELP again.
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Technical | How To / Re: Oil in water xciting 500
« on: March 08, 2019, 01:50:34 PM »
Never give up.
I keep hearing "get a new scoot".
Naysayers, bah!
After week, the shop finally stripped the engine, and it looks like just the gasket.
There is no obvious crack, and the valves are deep, so a skim will be just fine, as the copper gasket can compensate.
So very relieved.
I have left the dark corner, and might soon be seen dancing.... [emoji3].
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I keep hearing "get a new scoot".
Naysayers, bah!
After week, the shop finally stripped the engine, and it looks like just the gasket.
There is no obvious crack, and the valves are deep, so a skim will be just fine, as the copper gasket can compensate.
So very relieved.
I have left the dark corner, and might soon be seen dancing.... [emoji3].
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Technical | How To / Re: Oil in water xciting 500
« on: March 06, 2019, 07:43:14 PM »
I got a quote for a copper head gasket, and was surprised to find I did not have to take out another mortgage to pay for it. Lasercutting. They will do the autocad drawing from my sample. I must just supply the copper sheet.
Maybe that is what the cost is?
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Maybe that is what the cost is?
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Technical | How To / Re: Oil in water xciting 500
« on: March 01, 2019, 08:12:46 PM »
Gotta laugh, hey?
In any event, I ran out of tears a long time ago.
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In any event, I ran out of tears a long time ago.
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Technical | How To / Re: Oil in water xciting 500
« on: March 01, 2019, 05:49:48 PM »
The scooter has Finally given up the ghost.
It suddenly would not idle, then white smoke from exhaust.
And then stopped.
It is at the workshop now.
But....
The old Kymco importer sold out to Yamaha in Dec, 2018.
Sounds great right?
WRONG!
Yamaha has no infrastructure in place, and no stock.
Everything is on back order from Taiwan.
Even a local dealer who used to be agent, said to give up on Yamaha, as he has items on back order and still waiting.
So, I ordered from eBay, gasket and air filter.
Maybe a two month wait, but hopefully sooner.
The scoot overheated a few times, and finally, I broke the sparkplug in the head, probably due to overtightening, but where it broke is strange, at the top of the threaded metal part.
Laying in a dark corner, in a fetal position.
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It suddenly would not idle, then white smoke from exhaust.
And then stopped.
It is at the workshop now.
But....
The old Kymco importer sold out to Yamaha in Dec, 2018.
Sounds great right?
WRONG!
Yamaha has no infrastructure in place, and no stock.
Everything is on back order from Taiwan.
Even a local dealer who used to be agent, said to give up on Yamaha, as he has items on back order and still waiting.
So, I ordered from eBay, gasket and air filter.
Maybe a two month wait, but hopefully sooner.
The scoot overheated a few times, and finally, I broke the sparkplug in the head, probably due to overtightening, but where it broke is strange, at the top of the threaded metal part.
Laying in a dark corner, in a fetal position.
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Xciting 250 / Re: Xciting 250/500 fairing interchangeability
« on: February 23, 2019, 08:40:17 PM »
Ditto with what Forbes said.
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Xciting 500 / Re: 2018 Kymco Xciting 400i ABS
« on: February 13, 2019, 05:43:27 AM »
I have a gel battery in my 500, going on 3 years now MOTOBATT.
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