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Xciting 500 / Re: 500-Oil pump & consequences
« on: January 24, 2015, 05:14:49 AM »
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Xciting 500 / Re: WEird stalling issue
« on: January 24, 2015, 05:10:11 AM »
Stig, can you provide us with the battery model number, as a larger/stronger battery requirement is an ongoing saga with these 500's.
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Xciting 500 / 500-Oil pump & consequences
« on: January 24, 2015, 04:56:54 AM »
Hi all. Boy, my story is sad. I have had this scoot for over a year now(previously loved model, but it should be unloved I think) , and it has been in the shop 4 times. 1st time clutch disintegrated, and other times 3 for the same thing,being cam replacement.
1st time cams replaced, I was told, kymco hardening process faulty. Next time, they see this issue a lot on the 500,no reason given as to why.
I researched, and oil pump came up. I mentioned this but that did not get replaced.
Two months later, back with same issue, worn cams.
I had noticed that the oil sensor cable was off, and refitted it, and saw that the oil light flickered when idling. The shop was notified of this development, and the result was the old pump is being replaced this time around.
The above is a buildup to my question which is :
with the oil pump being suspect, what is the worst case scenario? Catastrophic failure, like crank sieving, worn rings, or is it just the top end of the engine that was taking a beating, because oil pressure was still good at the bottom. I can also mention, that recently, I have had to top up with oil twice. That can't be good.
Please keep your comments limited to the question. Berating the workshop is not going to help me make a decision to keep the scoot, which is why this post is here now.
BTW, the shop is at least giving a discount...
2nd question: Is it worth keeping.?
I only have an automatic license, so got the big(not Chinese) for reliability and freeway (highway) speeds.
Every time I get it back from the shop, I remember why I got it, and the enjoyment of the freedom from traffic jams.
This thing is costing me an arm and a leg, and is really beginning to hurt now.
Selling I will make a big loss.
I have been trying with the idea of a Honda vtr 250 twin. The add says top speed 175km, which is plenty fast enough.
But, then there is that storage negative...
And no protection from the elements.
At least it will be lighter on fuel, hey!
I don't really want to go this route, as I really like great scoot, the looks, the size, and the performance, but must try and face reality, and not delude myself about this decision I have to make.
I know I will get a lot of feedback here, so standing back, and ducking....
1st time cams replaced, I was told, kymco hardening process faulty. Next time, they see this issue a lot on the 500,no reason given as to why.
I researched, and oil pump came up. I mentioned this but that did not get replaced.
Two months later, back with same issue, worn cams.
I had noticed that the oil sensor cable was off, and refitted it, and saw that the oil light flickered when idling. The shop was notified of this development, and the result was the old pump is being replaced this time around.
The above is a buildup to my question which is :
with the oil pump being suspect, what is the worst case scenario? Catastrophic failure, like crank sieving, worn rings, or is it just the top end of the engine that was taking a beating, because oil pressure was still good at the bottom. I can also mention, that recently, I have had to top up with oil twice. That can't be good.
Please keep your comments limited to the question. Berating the workshop is not going to help me make a decision to keep the scoot, which is why this post is here now.
BTW, the shop is at least giving a discount...
2nd question: Is it worth keeping.?
I only have an automatic license, so got the big(not Chinese) for reliability and freeway (highway) speeds.
Every time I get it back from the shop, I remember why I got it, and the enjoyment of the freedom from traffic jams.
This thing is costing me an arm and a leg, and is really beginning to hurt now.
Selling I will make a big loss.
I have been trying with the idea of a Honda vtr 250 twin. The add says top speed 175km, which is plenty fast enough.
But, then there is that storage negative...
And no protection from the elements.
At least it will be lighter on fuel, hey!
I don't really want to go this route, as I really like great scoot, the looks, the size, and the performance, but must try and face reality, and not delude myself about this decision I have to make.
I know I will get a lot of feedback here, so standing back, and ducking....
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Xciting 500 / where can I buy a used xciting 500ri instrument panel
« on: March 22, 2014, 12:16:32 PM »
Hi
My xciting 500ri temp gauge has gone completely haywire.
I know it is not the sender unit-did some testing.
I also looked at the temp gauge,stripped the instrument cluster,soldered around the temp gauge, and made it worse.
It moves from the STOP to just above cold and stays there..
Before I messed around with it, it would not go all the way to the STOP when ignition off.
There must be accident damaged scoots around.
If anyone knows of an xciting 500ri being stripped, I would really like to know.
The exchange rate is 11:1 here in ZA, and so new is not going to be on thje horizon, unless I win the lottery.
Thanx all/Pete
My xciting 500ri temp gauge has gone completely haywire.
I know it is not the sender unit-did some testing.
I also looked at the temp gauge,stripped the instrument cluster,soldered around the temp gauge, and made it worse.
It moves from the STOP to just above cold and stays there..
Before I messed around with it, it would not go all the way to the STOP when ignition off.
There must be accident damaged scoots around.
If anyone knows of an xciting 500ri being stripped, I would really like to know.
The exchange rate is 11:1 here in ZA, and so new is not going to be on thje horizon, unless I win the lottery.
Thanx all/Pete
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Xciting 500 / Re: MET light stays on....
« on: December 02, 2013, 06:06:06 AM »
This does seem to be an issue with this model.
When I had to work on the seat latch (rhs),I found the light switch cable cut, so obviously the previous owner had already experienced a flat battery from this.
If it had not been cut,I would have disconnected the plug.
When I had to work on the seat latch (rhs),I found the light switch cable cut, so obviously the previous owner had already experienced a flat battery from this.
If it had not been cut,I would have disconnected the plug.
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Xciting 500 / Re: Cold weather start
« on: December 02, 2013, 05:59:11 AM »
My experience with a 2010 x500ri here in za,was right from the start,bad starting,and flat battery because same as you,if it does not Start within 2 turns,that's it.
Went the battery tender route, which improved matters but issue was intermittent.
This was fine for home,but there was no battery tender or AC plug at the side Of the road in the middle Of the Karoo(remote place).
Then,I got a second battery and using the seat latch screws,jury rigged a rig to hold this battery up against the original battery compartment.There's still space for a full face helmet. This Battery was connected in parallel.
This solution worked well.
Never had another startup issue.
Long discussions with the dealer, finally resulted in this gem:
Super high quality synthetic engine oil 5w40
(dealer had originally put in 10w40)
On my next service,I went with the better oil, and removed the extra battery,and have had no starting issues since.
We are in summer now,so will have too report back mid winter to confirm it is really solved.
Went the battery tender route, which improved matters but issue was intermittent.
This was fine for home,but there was no battery tender or AC plug at the side Of the road in the middle Of the Karoo(remote place).
Then,I got a second battery and using the seat latch screws,jury rigged a rig to hold this battery up against the original battery compartment.There's still space for a full face helmet. This Battery was connected in parallel.
This solution worked well.
Never had another startup issue.
Long discussions with the dealer, finally resulted in this gem:
Super high quality synthetic engine oil 5w40
(dealer had originally put in 10w40)
On my next service,I went with the better oil, and removed the extra battery,and have had no starting issues since.
We are in summer now,so will have too report back mid winter to confirm it is really solved.
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Xciting 500 / Re: Tell me about the 08 Xciting 500
« on: October 25, 2013, 05:42:25 AM »
My xciting 500Ri 2010 drives like a dream,absolutely loving it.
I think it is actually a bit taller than a Burg 400,as I drove by a skywave yesterday and it sure looked that way.
My fist clutch disintergrated(recon),and second one(replaced under warranty),has worked great till recently.
Now it groans and shudders on pull away.
I have seen reference to sanding the bell and cluch,but it is only a temporary solution.
A lot of the big maxis suffer from this issue.
I have decided to ignore it,as it still operates perfectly,just makes the groaning...
Others have had no mechanical issues by ignoring the noise.
A lot Of stop starts short journey,could excentuate the groaning.
With a spoiler,140kmg is easily attainable for a comfy ride.
I think it is actually a bit taller than a Burg 400,as I drove by a skywave yesterday and it sure looked that way.
My fist clutch disintergrated(recon),and second one(replaced under warranty),has worked great till recently.
Now it groans and shudders on pull away.
I have seen reference to sanding the bell and cluch,but it is only a temporary solution.
A lot of the big maxis suffer from this issue.
I have decided to ignore it,as it still operates perfectly,just makes the groaning...
Others have had no mechanical issues by ignoring the noise.
A lot Of stop starts short journey,could excentuate the groaning.
With a spoiler,140kmg is easily attainable for a comfy ride.
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Xciting 500 / Re: removing faring to get to wiring
« on: September 15, 2013, 07:59:37 AM »
Hi
I have the 2010,and just took my fairing off to reroute brake cable's.
It was super easy.
3 or 4 screws on each side in front of your knees.to where the lower body panel meets with fairing.
1 screw each side next to the screen.
Last screw is below the headlight.
Then the fairing will basically fall off into your hands.
Then unclip the headlight,and two turn signal connectors,and you are in!
I have the 2010,and just took my fairing off to reroute brake cable's.
It was super easy.
3 or 4 screws on each side in front of your knees.to where the lower body panel meets with fairing.
1 screw each side next to the screen.
Last screw is below the headlight.
Then the fairing will basically fall off into your hands.
Then unclip the headlight,and two turn signal connectors,and you are in!
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Technical | How To / Re: Scooter repair & service manuals avail. here
« on: September 11, 2013, 05:44:55 PM »
You can also get the kindle version for the xciting 500Ri,and put it on your tablet for easy viewing while working on your ride.
I think it is $22 only.And yours for life!
I think it is $22 only.And yours for life!
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Xciting 500 / Re: Kymco 500 Xciting - South African owners
« on: September 06, 2013, 08:43:30 AM »
Hi Greg
I am in Cape Town.
Also looking to hook up with ZA owners, to discuss mods, and/or economical servicing, plus rides.
Anyways, Keep safe, and enjoy the ride.
Pete
I am in Cape Town.
Also looking to hook up with ZA owners, to discuss mods, and/or economical servicing, plus rides.
Anyways, Keep safe, and enjoy the ride.
Pete