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Agility 125 / Re: spark plug question about iridium CR7HIX for agility 125
« on: November 22, 2018, 07:26:42 AM »
Thanks for the info about the correct Iridum plugs, Iridium plugs are the way to go. It normally outlasts the lifespan of normal spark plugs at least 10 times.
My previous bike was a Honda NC 700. Those bikes come with Iridium plugs. I bought the bike new and at about 40 000 km I thought I should change the plugs without inspecting it in advance.
So I bought new plugs and then removed the old plugs. When I compared the old plugs with the new ones, I coulnt find any wear on the old plugs. The old plugs still looked clean and brand new.
So I just put the old plugs back in place, and carried on riding with it untill I sold the bike at just more than 78 000 km. I sold the bike privately and gave the new plugs to the new owner as a gift.

Just dont fiddle with spark plug gap on Iridium plugs. Those things are very sensitive and come with correct gap settings. The electodes do not burn away. The plugs will easily outlast the lifespan of the scooter’s engine.


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Eye Candy | Videos and Pics / Re: The Impossible Dream
« on: November 22, 2018, 01:24:06 AM »
Beautiful song, but I believe hapyness or joy can never be found in material things, or at places other than wherever you find yourself at any given moment.

For example - my 2nd hand 125 Agility does’nt give me less joy than any other bike I owned during my lifetime.




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Agility 125 / Re: What does your enjine oil look like after 2000 km ?
« on: November 22, 2018, 12:46:20 AM »


What color did you get?
Stig


Pitch black. Not thick after been warmed up slightly, but completely black. Definitely not like Cabin syrup.

My previous bike was a Honda NC 700, and at 78 000 km on the clock the oil has never been that black during oil changes every 12 000 km.





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Agility 125 / What does your enjine oil look like after 2000 km ?
« on: November 21, 2018, 05:17:34 PM »
I just bought a 2009 Agility 125 with 8400 km on the clock and changed the engine oil for the first time today.
I tried to forward a photo of the drained oil to show the color of the oil, but aparantly the “pixels” of my photo exceeds the number of pixels allowed to forward a photo.
Unfortunately I am “technology handicapped”, and do not know how to forward a photo of the drained oil to the forum. Can somebody please tell what the color of drained engine oil on a 125 Agility “in good condition” is suppose to look like after 2000 km ?
 
Thanks !

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Agility 125 / Re: CVT drive-train Inspection
« on: November 21, 2018, 01:25:32 AM »
  you said that when you where young,    and the oil should be changed hot, the particuls do not have time to settle, and get flushed out,.


True, but in cases like this where oil changes takes place quite often, I think the oil temperature should rather be "mild" than hot.  Hot oil obviously means the aluminium housings will be hot as well. Due to metal expansion I never like to remove  drain- or spark plugs when the aluminium housings are too hot.
I think chances are just better that the hole thread at the housings might wear out....therefore my intention is to drain the oils only at very "mild" temperature.

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Agility 125 / Re: CVT drive-train Inspection
« on: November 20, 2018, 12:26:26 PM »
I consider stock Kymco belts to be top notch for the scooter.
I am also of the mind that if you are like me, and almost never run the scoot at 10/10ths.....you will be happy with the scoot's performance for a long time, even if there is a slight change to the gearing.
I do change out a very worn belt...before it fails me on the road,
but my riding style would not notice a few % off the top speed.
(and it would be a strange scooter indeed, if no way to change the gear oil. Bless their hearts --- motorcycle salesmen are sometimes full of entertaining ideas about those silly scooters on the sales floor!)
Stig

Got ya, I finally got the beast today.
What a pleasure, I should have bought one of these gems long ago !

At the moment I am very tempted to change oils and to have a look at everything, but it needs to cool down a bit. After collecting the scooter at a local branch from the dealer I went for a ride to buy a bread at shop as far as possible from home. When got back at home, I went for a ride to buy a refreshment at a store as far as possible from home again.
Again, what a pleasure, I just need to wait untill the beast cools down a bit.

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Agility 125 / Re: CVT drive-train Inspection
« on: November 19, 2018, 09:52:08 AM »
Belts are a bit of a pain - there's no standardisation on how they're measured so can be a bit hit and miss finding the right type.

That said, the original belt in my Like200i soldiered on past 20,000KM without issue.

If the original belts don’t come with the numbers on Jeeves belt (781  20  30), it will be very helpful if anyone can give us the exact width measurement on a new original belt. Hopefully belt lengths will be the same, otherwise comparing the belts and even belt lifespan might become very difficult.

Having read some very interesting info about CVT efficiency I started thinking belt width itself plays a major role in utilizing maximum engine eficiency, maximum speed, lifespan of the engine, and fuel consumpsion.


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Agility 125 / Re: CVT drive-train Inspection
« on: November 19, 2018, 08:19:54 AM »
Just saw this thread.
The best belt I had on was the original Kymco belt the scoot came with. 15000km and was still ok.

The best aftermarket so far has been from Bando.
It's a bit more expensive then other aftermarket belts.


Sent from my Redmi 4 using Tapatalk

Thanks for sharing the info, this is very helpful !

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Agility 125 / Re: CVT drive-train Inspection
« on: November 19, 2018, 08:15:48 AM »
There ya go! You and Jeeves are the forum experts on that very topic! "..............
.......You are now an Agility 125 *Specialist*!

Haha thanks for the promotion but I still need to learn a lot.
The dealer will now only deliver the scooter tomorrow and I can’t wait. So in the meanwhile I’m keeping myself busy by reading as much possible about these scooters at the forum. When I started reading there was about 56 pages of info at this forum, but for some or other reason I can now only see 34 pages with interesting info. Maybe I just started reading at the right time.

You might be right about the dealer. When I viewed the scooter I asked the salesman about the gearbox oil at the rear wheel. I saw some photos here at the forum when the drain plugs were discussed, but the salesman told me these scooters do not get any gearbox oil, it only get engine oil inside the engine.
So I can’t wait to check wether the salesman knew what he was talking about  ;D

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Agility 125 / Re: CVT drive-train Inspection
« on: November 18, 2018, 11:14:33 PM »

Sorry you took it that way. The specs on belt width are in the cyclepedia manuals - with lots of other good info.
Thought I was pointing you in a helpful direction ….nothing else meant by my reply.


Stig

No problem.
Jeeves posted a photo of a new belt at another thread with the numbers "781  20  30" on it.
I Googled the subject, and this is what the numbers actually mean:

781 = The pitch length of the belt in millimeters.
20   = Width of the belt in millimeters.
30   = The angle of the teeth on the interior of the belt.

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Agility 125 / Re: CVT drive-train Inspection
« on: November 18, 2018, 03:50:11 PM »
For exact specs like that, as well as a general maintenance guide - you might like to think about purchasing a service manual for your scooter (www.cyclepedia.com might be one source)
Stig

I'm sorry - I actually thought this would be a "user friendly" forum like many others where members can ask questions without hesitation....

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scooterfan,
Thanks for your post.....but just for your future scooter experiences : The CVT parts will not cause a no-start engine, nor will the CVT cause an engine shut off.
If the engine won't keep running - you needn't look under the CVT cover for the cause. You can see videos of a scooter running on its center stand - with no belt installed in the CVT.
Ride safe...
Stig

Oops, sorry - maybe I missed something.  I didn't realize the engine didn't start, and shuts off by itself.
I will have another look at the original post again.



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I am also new and just had a look at how a CVT belt and transmissions actually work.

Maybe you should also have a close look at the drive belt condition, as well drive pulley condition.
 Apparently the pulleys start getting grooves by time, and scooters start behaving quite strange when the pulleys get worn like that.

Just a guess.

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Agility 125 / CVT drive-train Inspection
« on: November 18, 2018, 08:19:47 AM »
Hi All,
I'm an oldish newby here. Owned a Vespa scooter about 50 years ago, and many other bikes since then. Had to sell my previous bike about two weeks ago due to back and leg problems. I could'nt see myself without handlebars, so I just bought myself a 2009 Kymco 125 Agility with 8400 geniune km on the clock from a dealer in a neibouring town. . Still en excellent condition, will be delivered tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.

I am completely new to CVT drive train transmissions, and started watching Youtube videos, as well as Googling the subject.
It became clear to me that the drive belts actually wear at the sides, and become narrower by time.
According to info at the web this means worn (narrower) belts actually change the effective "gear ratio", and create a situation where you get slower acceleration and loss of top speed.

My intention is to have a proper look at my scooter's belt as soon as possible, and I would appreciate if anyone can let me know about the correct width on a brand new belt.
I would also appreciate any related info.

Thanks !


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