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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Xciting 250 => Topic started by: wildwood on July 21, 2013, 08:39:27 PM
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Hello, all -- I've been riding motorcycles and scooters for several years; I've even owned two Kymcos before my new 2009 XC250.
The bike I bought was a dealer demo/auction purchase -- it had 250 miles on it. I've put another 250 on, and since I'm nearing the 600 mile service mark, I want to do the oil change/transmission fluid change in my garage.
Oil change is no problem, but I'm trying to figure out the service manual instructions for changing the tranny fluid -- it says to remove the bolt, drain the fluid (turning the wheel) --- and then to replace the bolt and new washer (?) and THEN refill with fresh SAE90 fluid. Is there another place to add the fluid, or am I supposed to use the exposed bolt-hole before replacing the bolt.
Thanks for your help.
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you should have a bolt at the rear of tranny for filling,. and only put the right amount in, or it will end up in your air filter , it happend to me with my 300i downtown,.
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One for draining, one for filling. .18 liter.
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Hello, all -- I've been riding motorcycles and scooters for several years; I've even owned two Kymcos before my new 2009 XC250.
The bike I bought was a dealer demo/auction purchase -- it had 250 miles on it. I've put another 250 on, and since I'm nearing the 600 mile service mark, I want to do the oil change/transmission fluid change in my garage.
Oil change is no problem, but I'm trying to figure out the service manual instructions for changing the tranny fluid -- it says to remove the bolt, drain the fluid (turning the wheel) --- and then to replace the bolt and new washer (?) and THEN refill with fresh SAE90 fluid. Is there another place to add the fluid, or am I supposed to use the exposed bolt-hole before replacing the bolt.
Thanks for your help.
And welcome, it's great to have another xc250 owner on board!
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Thanks - I appreciate the pictures, as well. When I changed the oil, I used a simple measuring cup from the local Wally World -- it had the mL markings, making it easy to measure .9 L of motor oil. How did you measure .18 L of transmission fluid? Did you must eyeball the .2 mark? Also, it appears one needs a special tube or super-skinny funnel to fill at that bolt location....? ???
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Many get a Vet. syringe or turkey baster to add oil to the rear gearbox.
The syringe has cc (mL) measurements on it and a big needle or tubing makes the job easy.
Some use a ketchup dispenser.
Maybe these conversions will help
180 mL = 6 oz.
0.9 L = 30 oz ,which is close enough to 1 qt.
There is a plastic tapered measurement cup, used for making oil:gas dilutions for 2-cycle engines.
It is pretty good for the smaller measurements.
scoot safely,
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Thanks for the help. Any ideas on reinstalling the bolts with "new sealing washers?" Are these washers available at the local Home Depot?
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If you do not over-tighten them, the washers are good for about 3 uses. Try to keep the same side towards the bolt.
Measure or take it to an auto parts store for replacement.... about $2 for 2 or 3.
Be sure to get the same composition. Plastic & rubber ones tend to vibrate loose.
Scoot safely,
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All these years, changing oil and doing it wrong every time... and I have yet to replace a drain plug washer. I wonder how many oil changes my Honda Odyssey with 301,000 miles has been through. Of course now that I've jinxed myself I'd better schedule a trip to the auto parts store. :)
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The metal for an automobile oil pan tends to be stronger (and heavier) than the scooter/motorcycle counterpart,
so it is best to err on the safe side, especially when giving advice.
If I said "Reuse the seal and just keep tightening it until it doesn't leak",
I wouldn't go to scooter heaven. :'(
scoot safely,
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The metal for an automobile oil pan tends to be stronger (and heavier) than the scooter/motorcycle counterpart,
so it is best to err on the safe side, especially when giving advice.
If I said "Reuse the seal and just keep tightening it until it doesn't leak", I wouldn't go to scooter heaven.
scoot safely,
I stand corrected. :)
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Well, I did it -- and I gotta say, changing the tranny fluid is a huge p.i.t.a. I'm going to look into the vet syringe method and see if that works better. Thanks again for the help; I'm sure I'll be back with more questions soon. ;D
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Well, I did it -- and I gotta say, changing the tranny fluid is a huge p.i.t.a. I'm going to look into the vet syringe method and see if that works better. Thanks again for the help; I'm sure I'll be back with more questions soon. ;D
Glad you were successful. :) But a huge pita, really? Taking it to a dealer, dropping it off, getting a ride to work, waiting for the service to be completed, getting a ride back to the dealer, now THAT is a pita.
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Good point, Cosmo -- I am a do-it-yourselfer at heart; I always prefer to wrench on my toys in my own garage, if at all possible. The p.i.t.a. is getting the oil into that tiny opening -- a lot of trial and error, using an oil squeeze bottle. My initial expectation was that it would be as easy as changing the engine oil...but you live and learn.
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OK, well here's what I did. Marked "full" on oil bottle, poured .18 liters into a cheap measuring cup, marked new oil level on bottle, poured oil back into bottle, squeezed oil into fill hole until oil reached new mark. Now you know for next time. :)
Oh, and I see I put decimal point in the wrong place when I wrote on the bottle. ::)
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I found a grocery store-bought "meat injector" used to inject marinades into pork and turkey -- it has measurements in mL on the side and fits perfectly into the fill hole.
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My transmission was rebuilt many years ago and about 5 years ago I had the car to Bakers Auto and I had them do a transmission fluid change. Since I have not had to top off the fluid in many yearsI have forgot which ATF to use. I am not sure if I should be putting in Ford Type F or Mercron/Dexron. I think I should use Type F. Which is the correct fluid for my 67 Lincoln?
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My transmission was rebuilt many years ago and about 5 years ago I had the car to Bakers Auto and I had them do a transmission fluid change. Since I have not had to top off the fluid in many yearsI have forgot which ATF to use. I am not sure if I should be putting in Ford Type F or Mercron/Dexron. I think I should use Type F. Which is the correct fluid for my 67 Lincoln?
Is info on the fill cap?
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Here is the owners manual. Modern Dextron III will replace the old type "F" fluid.
http://www.lincolnlandinc.com/browseProducts/browse.php/PData/category~708 (http://www.lincolnlandinc.com/browseProducts/browse.php/PData/category~708)