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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Yager GT 200i => Topic started by: fshfindr on October 03, 2011, 05:31:58 PM

Title: Windshield
Post by: fshfindr on October 03, 2011, 05:31:58 PM
Our Yager windshield is just about useless, tho it does look good.  The weather is turning chilly and I'm starting to feel it.  My Joe Rocket armored jacket does a nice job right now and lowering my shield also helps a little.  But it is not yet really cold outside.  So I am hoping that someone has found the windshield that will give good protection including my hands.  I looked at the Kymco site but that was a waste of time.  All suggestions appreciated.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: racewalker on October 04, 2011, 01:43:56 AM
check GIVI for one.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: JustWantToRide on October 04, 2011, 03:12:09 AM
http://www.epfguzzi.com/kymcobiz/accessories/scooter/yager_windshield.html (http://www.epfguzzi.com/kymcobiz/accessories/scooter/yager_windshield.html)
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: iker on October 18, 2011, 01:56:48 AM
hi, i just installed a givi shield on my yeager . price was $ 180 . installion was ok . of course givi makes shields for very tall people . it was late so no tesr ride as yet . it says on shield not to exceed 100 kms ( 62 mpr ) and lower speed in high winds. i'm sure i will cut down 3 or 4 ins. time wil tell . fit is top knotch and clears turn signals and seems to give hand coverage as well . i guess thats it . it was made for a dink 200 . see yae iker
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: iker on October 19, 2011, 01:03:31 PM
well, here is next day results on the givi windshield i installed yesterday. with a slight head wind top speed was 55-58and going the other way speed was 58-61. so it seems i lost a lot of top speed . tach was beteen 7000-7200.before big screen it was no problem to go 8000 rpm and 64-66. its very quiet behind screen and no wind on hands. but its way too high. i'll ride it this for a while and then cut it down, about 4 ins. at least .thats it for now,ike
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: fshfindr on October 19, 2011, 01:53:16 PM
[color=blue]Iker, keep us informed buddy.[/color]
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: fshfindr on October 19, 2011, 01:53:35 PM
[color=blue]Iker, keep us informed buddy.[/color]
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: nplenzick on December 03, 2011, 09:25:22 PM
Put a Givi windscreen on my wifes Yeager yesterday and took it out for a ride. With a head wind I too think we lost about 5 MPH or so with a tail wind I could still hit around 70.  It does really seem to effect top end on this scooter. It does however block the wind very well and I think my wife will like it. I was planing on cutting it down but its really not that bad to look through it and I think we'll just leave it as is for the time being.
Title: Re: Windshield - cut down ?
Post by: Zimmerman on October 29, 2012, 11:10:33 AM
Bump this old thread . . .

Did you guys cut down that windshield ?

How did it work out ?

I'm probably going to get the same one.

Kevin
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: az_slynch on October 30, 2012, 05:38:09 PM
I believe I've found another windscreen:

FACO #22676 (http://www.facosrl.com/catalogo2.asp?lingua=2&pagina=catalogo_modelli&codCat=1&CodMarca=11&CodModello=129)

Bigger than stock, smaller than most aftermarket.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: MotoRandy123 on October 30, 2012, 07:13:12 PM
Hmm.. Looks good. Can you buy it? How much is it?
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on October 30, 2012, 07:16:03 PM
I believe I've found another windscreen:

FACO #22676 (http://www.facosrl.com/catalogo2.asp?lingua=2&pagina=catalogo_modelli&codCat=1&CodMarca=11&CodModello=129)

Bigger than stock, smaller than most aftermarket.

Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
Who sells it though?
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: az_slynch on October 30, 2012, 09:07:29 PM
I found this eBay vendor. Not my first choice, but I haven't looked up a US distributor yet:

http://www.ebay.it/itm/PARABREZZA-PARAVENTO-FACO-22676-KYMCO-DINK-50-125-200-i-EURO3-/200824065805 (http://www.ebay.it/itm/PARABREZZA-PARAVENTO-FACO-22676-KYMCO-DINK-50-125-200-i-EURO3-/200824065805)

EDIT: it looks like ScooterWorks resells FACO parts, maybe they can get some imported?
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on October 31, 2012, 06:23:52 AM
Nice find az_slynch!
I wonder how the support legs attach to the scooter.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on October 31, 2012, 09:47:34 AM
Man it's a pain that these are hard to find in the US.

I've heard of at least one person making his own.  The basic idea isn't hard.

But beyond the basics, air flow dynamics (shape / curves) would probably be tricky.
Maybe trying to make my own by copying a proven design.

Really, I'd rather just buy it. But necessity is the mother of invention.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on October 31, 2012, 09:54:28 AM
I found this eBay vendor. Not my first choice, but I haven't looked up a US distributor yet:
http://www.ebay.it/itm/PARABREZZA-PARAVENTO-FACO-22676-KYMCO-DINK-50-125-200-i-EURO3-/200824065805 (http://www.ebay.it/itm/PARABREZZA-PARAVENTO-FACO-22676-KYMCO-DINK-50-125-200-i-EURO3-/200824065805)
EDIT: it looks like ScooterWorks resells FACO parts, maybe they can get some imported?

Just checked with that seller and he doesn't ship to the US :-(
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on October 31, 2012, 10:21:43 AM
I recently heard a podcast by long distance motorcycle rally riders.

One of them talked about prep'ing the bike for the trip by tweaking air flow dynamics.

He had a small stick with a piece of yarn tied to the end.  He used that to analyze air flow then tweak the bike and retest (probably took a lot of tweaking and many tests.)

He said it took a while but he got it perfect. The goal was to minimize the wind on the rider.

A homemade scooter windscreen would probably involve a similar process.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: MotoRandy123 on October 31, 2012, 11:57:40 AM
How come his Ebay ad says "Shipping in: America, Europe, Asia, Australia"

I'd think that means he ships to US? I'd be interested in one of these.

I had a friend who made one for his older bike (that none were available any more)

He made a form then heated the plastic over it. The first one got bubbles in it from the
silicon oil he use as a mold release. He ended up spending $50 and two weeks to get
a workable one...
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on October 31, 2012, 01:05:11 PM
How come his Ebay ad says "Shipping in: America, Europe, Asia, Australia"

I'd think that means he ships to US? I'd be interested in one of these.

I had a friend who made one for his older bike (that none were available any more)

He made a form then heated the plastic over it. The first one got bubbles in it from the
silicon oil he use as a mold release. He ended up spending $50 and two weeks to get
a workable one...

I know... I asked him the same thing.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: az_slynch on October 31, 2012, 11:58:26 PM
I tried calling ScooterWorks today but got tired of holding for a person. So, I sent in an e-mail to inquire as to if they can order that FACO part, as they carry FACO stuff for Vespas.

I'll try ScootWest tomorrow; they stock FACO too and they're good about sourcing parts.

If I strike out on both counts, I'll go to FACO directly. Too bad I know about as much Italian as Family Guy's Peter Griffin.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on November 01, 2012, 12:25:50 AM
The Givi windshield seems to be available . . . . is the FACO better ?

Has anyone seen the Kymco windshield, not that anyone seems to be able to get them.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: nplenzick on November 01, 2012, 01:15:20 AM
I did cut about 4 0r 5 " off of the Givi. We've been real happy with it and I certainly would recommend one for the Yager.  Couldn't stand it though until I cut it down.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on November 01, 2012, 01:25:40 AM
Thanks - I'll probably go with the Givi and cut it down.

As long as the roads are dry I like to ride . . . temp hasn't been an issue but now that I'm getting older it sure would be nice to get out of the wind.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: az_slynch on November 01, 2012, 03:47:47 PM
I prefer the FACO windscreen's size over the GIVI. It doesn't have the wings for the handlebars and fits closer to the bike's form. I'm just going to fit some BRIGHTZ guards on the mirror mounts to provide wind protection for the hands.

BRIGHTZ hand guards (http://V)

I know the GIVI has that protection built-in, but I just don't like windscreens that can double as sails and take too much away from the lines of the bike.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: MotoRandy123 on November 01, 2012, 07:25:02 PM
The Givi is huge! I'm not keen on trying to cut it down. I'm worried I will do a poor job...

The folds look to be creating air disturbance too. The price might be a little cheaper on the Falco
too. If not that one I might go for the Bioni;

Listed Specs "Colourless windshield without rim Mod. Club
Size: height cm. 66 x wideness cm 66"

(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t478/MotoRandy123/Yager/BiondiWindshieldkymco-dink200i.jpg)

I'd like to see the FACO mounted on the bike, not sure how the supports work?

The Puig is shown as 500x450mm on this page;
http://www.puigusa.com/tuning-bikes/kymco-yager-unique-model/tp/c171en/f1-r17-m2736/ (http://www.puigusa.com/tuning-bikes/kymco-yager-unique-model/tp/c171en/f1-r17-m2736/)

Givi is listed as "Size: A/D 68 x 58 cm (H x W)" on this siter;
http://www.moto24.org/givi-kymco-yager-gt-125-200i-06-10-specific-screen.html (http://www.moto24.org/givi-kymco-yager-gt-125-200i-06-10-specific-screen.html)

Isotta is 620x585 acording to this site;
http://www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/kymco/dink/windscreen-medium-protection-with-mount-a-420-for-dink-07.html (http://www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/kymco/dink/windscreen-medium-protection-with-mount-a-420-for-dink-07.html)

Fabbri is 550x680 as seen on this site;
http://www.fabbriaccessori.com/prodotto_scooter.asp?versione=8&marca=12&modello=240&l=it (http://www.fabbriaccessori.com/prodotto_scooter.asp?versione=8&marca=12&modello=240&l=it)

For referance the stock windshield is 280 mm x 395 mm approximately
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on November 01, 2012, 07:30:02 PM
Does someone know the dimensions of those windshields?
Givi vs Faco vs Puig/Kymco?
That would help comparing them!
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on November 01, 2012, 08:55:05 PM
Yes dimensions would be good.
I'd also like pic's of each.

As for cutting a windscreen . . . The top edge may have a flair.
The flair may add strength and/or wind deflection.

I'd hate to loose either of those by cutting a screen.

So I do see the point in buying the right size in the first place.

Title: Re: Windshield - group purchase ? Vendor Motivation.
Post by: Zimmerman on November 01, 2012, 08:57:40 PM
I wonder if a group of us decided we all wanted the same Yager windscreen and made a group purchase . . . My thinking is maybe then a vendor would be willing to do it.

Title: Re: Windshield - group purchase ? Vendor Motivation.
Post by: fshfindr on November 04, 2012, 09:51:12 PM
I wonder if a group of us decided we all wanted the same Yager windscreen and made a group purchase . . . My thinking is maybe then a vendor would be willing to do it.
That's a good idea but we still don't have a price.  Nor do we have any idea about how it will effect speed.

Richard L.
Title: Re: Windshield any of them available for the US?
Post by: Zimmerman on November 06, 2012, 11:51:14 AM

At this time (Nov 2012) are any of these Yager windscreens available to the US market ?

I've looked but they don't seem to be . . . . It appears the Givi was, but now I can't find any of them either.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: MotoRandy123 on November 06, 2012, 01:23:05 PM
I've seen the Givi on ebay. It's coming from Canada though. I'm sure a local
dealer can order it but not sure how long to get it or how much!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIVI-KYMCO-FROST-YAGER-200I-WINDFLIP-WINDSHIELD-KIT-292DT-/380485362482?forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true#ht_3605wt_1163 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIVI-KYMCO-FROST-YAGER-200I-WINDFLIP-WINDSHIELD-KIT-292DT-/380485362482?forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true#ht_3605wt_1163)

This place lets you order them for $189.99;
http://www.epfguzzi.com/kymcobiz/accessories/scooter/index.html (http://www.epfguzzi.com/kymcobiz/accessories/scooter/index.html)
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on November 06, 2012, 09:24:39 PM
Thanks Randy,

I've watching the eBay  one- but am not sure how 'clean' it is.

I'll probably buy the $180 one - that's for the link.

Kevin
Title: Re: Windshield FACO 22676
Post by: Zimmerman on November 12, 2012, 02:25:59 PM
Az & Group,

Has anyone ridden a Yager / Frost with the FACO 22676 windshield installed ?

Kevin
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on November 13, 2012, 07:03:10 AM
I haven't. Actually, I haven't seen a review of any aftermarket windshield for the Yager anywhere :-(
Looks like we are the only one (on this forum) to worry about that!
The only one I found online for sale is the GIVI.
Pretty pathetic that even Kymco (through dealers) doesn't have its own Puig/Kymco available for purchase.

Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on November 13, 2012, 11:45:17 AM

I sent Scooterworks an email about the FACO windscreen 22676.
They carry FACO widescreens for Vespas.

I asked if we had four people that wanted the same FACO item, would they get it for us?

If they say 'yes' I'll post it to all the scooter forums. Combined there might be four or more willing buyers.
Especially considering the aerodynamics of the Yager and the fact that these windscreens are hard (impossible) to get.

The Givi is a good screen, just too tall for me. I'm 5'9"

Kevin
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on November 13, 2012, 06:16:36 PM
Did they mention the price?
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on November 13, 2012, 09:02:12 PM
Don't know yet . . . Havn't gotten a response yet.

I'll post it here as soon as I hear anything.

KZ
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on November 26, 2012, 05:38:31 AM
Apparently, ISOTTA makes two windshields for the Yager/Dink:
http://isotta-srl.com/EN/SCOOTER/KYMCO/DINK.aspx (http://isotta-srl.com/EN/SCOOTER/KYMCO/DINK.aspx)
MotoRandy123 mentioned that earlier.
Here are some photos and dimensions.

Model SC2724
(http://isotta-srl.com/public/images/articles/full/SC2724.jpg)
(http://www.euronetbike.net/graphics/isotta/added_desc/SC2724.jpg)

Model E602
(http://isotta-srl.com/public/images/articles/full/E602.jpg)
(http://www.euronetbike.net/graphics/isotta/added_desc/E602.jpg)

I like the E602 (smaller) better and the fact that it protects the hands as well.
From what I found, I think it's the cheapest too (vs. Givi, Faco, Puig (hard to find)).
If I buy it, I will report here.



Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on November 26, 2012, 10:53:51 AM
Ludo,

I like the smaller E602 too. Plus the hand pertection would be great !
I think that site is in Greece.  Hopefully they ship overseas.
The price is ok, about $106 USD.

As far as I could tell, the web site didn't allow orders to be placed.
Perhaps they have a dealer network.

KZ
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on November 26, 2012, 11:14:51 AM
I  agree, the size of that windshield seems optimal.
I looked at few websites and found a legit one based in Austria.
One of their guys is actually on the SYM forum so I will invite him here.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on November 26, 2012, 11:22:30 AM
Ludo.

Yes - please invite him.

I explored their dealer web tool a little.
There were dealers in Italy and Spain.

Here's a web site that sells an Isotta windscreen for the Vespa.
http://www.sip-scootershop.com (http://www.sip-scootershop.com)
Maybe they could get ours too.

KZ

The SIP website has a fairly active forum of its' own.
I registered and posted a http://www.sip-scootershop.com/community/forums/p/419464/2371579.aspx#2371579]message (http://www.sip-scootershop.com/community/forums/p/419464/2371579.aspx#2371579) on this topic.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: MotoRandy123 on November 26, 2012, 01:27:38 PM
I like the size of the smaller one too and $100 is a good price but it looks like they
only have dealers in Italy and Spain. I did find it on this site;
http://japan.webike.fr/products/1902114.html (http://japan.webike.fr/products/1902114.html)

Japan.webike.fr? France? But they want $287 and it takes "Usually ships within 1 and a half months "!

Also I noticed from that site that it is only 3mm thick! Also the Isotta site shows our bike but the other site
has some reviews and they show a different bike (Grand Dink).

You can get it off the Italian ebay for 50 euro's plus 10 lbs shipping and they ship worldwide. See here:
http://www.ebay.it/itm/PARABREZZA-ISOTTA-KYMCO-DINK-125-VERSIONE-2007-E602-/120883177818?pt=Ricambi_e_Accessori_Moto&hash=item1c2532e95a#ht_822wt_886 (http://www.ebay.it/itm/PARABREZZA-ISOTTA-KYMCO-DINK-125-VERSIONE-2007-E602-/120883177818?pt=Ricambi_e_Accessori_Moto&hash=item1c2532e95a#ht_822wt_886)

Hmm when you try to change the shipping it allows euro countries (for 25 lbs ((or euro))) but not USA....

Here it is on sale for 40 euro's;
http://www.motorbikesas.it/prodotto.asp?iPro=217 (http://www.motorbikesas.it/prodotto.asp?iPro=217)
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on November 26, 2012, 06:05:09 PM
Man I wish some one state side had a laser or CNC machine that would make any windscreen on demand.
No stocking costs - but quick production as needed.
That would be a nice little business.

As someone mentioned, it's the 'low volume' of Yager state side that's hurting us - the US dealers don't want to be bothered.

But on top of it, the non-US sellers don't care to ship stateside either.

AITA

KZ
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: MotoRandy123 on November 26, 2012, 06:53:21 PM
Well I've heard CeeBailey's will make one free for the first guy then stock them for
others to buy (at least they did for the Grand Vista);
http://www.ceebaileys.com/cycle/motorcycle_windshields.html (http://www.ceebaileys.com/cycle/motorcycle_windshields.html)

This place does custom one's I've always heard;
http://www.bikescreen.com/categories.asp (http://www.bikescreen.com/categories.asp)

Title: ISOTTA E602 @ Euronetbike.net
Post by: ludo on November 26, 2012, 09:08:44 PM
UPDATE...

Ok guys,
I decided to order the ISOTTA E602 from Euronetbike.net.
http://www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/kymco/dink/windscreen-medium-protection-with-mount-a-420-for-dink-07.html (http://www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/kymco/dink/windscreen-medium-protection-with-mount-a-420-for-dink-07.html)
They are located in Austria (near Germany ;)).

I originally found a discussion about them on the SYM Forum:
http://symforum.com/index.php?topic=1760.0 (http://symforum.com/index.php?topic=1760.0)

Also, I wrote to Erjon Galanxhi (from Euronetbike.net) and invited him to join the discussion here.

FYI, I checked the dimensions of that screen and I think it will be perfectly sized. The top of the screen should arrive just at my nose's level (I am 5"11).
I will take photos when I receive it but that it may take few weeks to arrive.

Also, the price and shipping are really decent.
There is a 10% discount so I ended up paying:
Screen:                     $101.28
Including discount:        $10.13
Subtotal:                     $91.15

Shipping cost:              $36.92  (NICE!!!!)
Total cost:                 $128.08  (Paid using PAYPAL)

I guess I am done looking for an aftermarket windscreen for the Yager  ;D
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on November 26, 2012, 10:09:28 PM
Ludo,

That's completely awesome - thank you for finding that (and everyone else that worked on this damn challenge !)

I'll have to wait until after Christmas - with three kids needing gifts I don't have the extra cash just now.

Please do let us know how you like it.  I'll probably order mine in Feb / Mar.

KZ
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on November 26, 2012, 11:20:51 PM
You're welcome.
I think it's a pretty good deal.
I was going to do without but my frozen hands said otherwise ;D

Will report as soon as I get/install the screen!
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on November 26, 2012, 11:21:59 PM
http://www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/kymco/dink/windscreen-medium-protection-with-mount-a-420-for-dink-07.html (http://www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/kymco/dink/windscreen-medium-protection-with-mount-a-420-for-dink-07.html)
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on November 26, 2012, 11:23:08 PM
http://www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/kymco/dink/windscreen-medium-protection-with-mount-a-420-for-dink-07.html (http://www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/kymco/dink/windscreen-medium-protection-with-mount-a-420-for-dink-07.html)

Yep! That's the one.... same link I posted earlier.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: MotoRandy123 on November 27, 2012, 01:17:02 AM
I wouldn't mind getting one of those, the only thing I worry about is that it's only 3mm thick.
It's unsupported for 400mm's, some of the Givi's have been cracking due to the load but they
are a bit taller. Anyone know how thick a standard windshield is? I'm thinking 4 - 5 mm...

Well the CeeBailey's are 3.8mm and claim to be twice as thick as stock on a Tank scooter...

National Cycle's are 4mm - 4.5mm - Some for the scooter's are 3.0mm
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on November 27, 2012, 01:28:27 AM
The Isotta screen for the SYM RV300 on that forum:
http://symforum.com/index.php?topic=1760.0 (http://symforum.com/index.php?topic=1760.0)
is also 3mm thick and no one reported a problem with it besides some flexing at high speeds.

But this windscreen is MUCH taller than the one for the Yager.

I will tell you what I think as soon as I get it but in the worse case, I can always put some kind of foam between the bottom of the screen and the gauges cover... that should help if the screen flexes too much.

I had some Givi and Faco windshield on other scooters and I am pretty sure they were not thicker than 3-4mm and they all worked pretty good.



Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: MotoRandy123 on November 27, 2012, 01:32:36 AM
Well they do have a nice metal bracket to hold the bottom so I don't think you
can help any with adding some foam. The Givi is much larger too so it will probably
be OK.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on November 27, 2012, 01:40:00 AM
I saw those comments about the flexing - but thought the same thing, the Yager windscreen is shorter.

When I get one I'll put the foam in right off - why not ?

I do see the two support brackets, but I'll add the foam to spread the stress load.
I don't know that the stress load would even be a problem with this shorter windscreen.
I'll take the 'belt and suspenders' approach.

KZ

I do wonder why they don't use slightly thicker stock.
Title: Windscreen Medium Protection with mount A/420 for DINK (07')
Post by: mistereri on November 27, 2012, 10:13:40 AM
Hi Guys,

My name is Erjon Galanxhi.
I would like to thank Ludo, inviting me in this discussion.
Also I would like to thank the Admin of KymcoForum.com for creating this good looking forum and
all the readers and posters mentioning our webshop Euronetbike.net and my name.

In short I just need to mention what we can do for you.
- We ship internationally almost everywhere in the world from Vienna, Austria.
  From our experience shipping to Canada, USA, Australia there isn`t any additional customs tax (as far as we know).
  So the total price of the screen is only  SCREEN COST + SHIPPING FEE = TOTAL COST (We use only Paypal or Bank Transfer)
  For EU nations it is imposed 20% VAT tax.
  Shipping period before January 2013 still will be 3 - 4 weeks
  (NEW: Starting from January we have contract with DHL Express and the shipping period will be from 3 - 18 days depending on the stock)

- If you are not sure if the screen fits to your bike, check the installation manual how it is going to fit on your bike.
  Still not sure then do not hesitate to contact us because we are authorized dealer of Isotta,
  and we can ask Isotta`s technicians who made the screens for each of you.
  Most of the installation instructions are in Italian, but if you are interested for your screen,
  please drop us an email which manual you need and we will provide it in English.

- Every time you have good or bad experience please share it, like SymForum did.
   From their sharing experience we requested to Isotta to produce higher quality screen for Sym RV250 - 300 models making thicker version.
   Since October and on Isotta is producing 4 mm thick screen for RV 250-300 models.
   Even the problem of flexing over 120 km/h was not coming from the screen thickness but from the original holders
   of the screen which are not fixed even without the screen mounted. (We don`t know the reason why those brackets are not fixed from factory)

- If you like after you mounted the screen please send us some photo images to upload to our products descriptions.
  This is very appreciated and you will make us more than happy.
  As an example please see this link:
http://www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/sym/joy-max-300-evo-09/windshield-medium-protection-full-attack-for-joy-max-300-evo-vers.2009.html (http://www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/sym/joy-max-300-evo-09/windshield-medium-protection-full-attack-for-joy-max-300-evo-vers.2009.html)

If I forget something to point out please contact us anytime. We try to support so far in different languages as English, Italian, German, Japanese and Russian.

Thank You for giving me a possibility to be part of KymcoForum.com.

My Best Regards to All

  Erjon Galanxhi 
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Euroe-com Trading GmbH
Franz Schubert Strasse 17
2345 Brunn am Gebirge, Austria

Tel: +43-2236-205559   
Fax: +43-2236-864650
E-mail: customer@euronetbike.net
Website: http://www.euronetbike.net (http://www.euronetbike.net)
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on November 27, 2012, 10:24:20 AM
Erjon,

Thanks for joining the group.

As you can see, many of us Yager owners have been looking for a windscreen for a long time.

I'm glad Ludo found you and your company.

KZ
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on November 27, 2012, 11:29:10 AM
Welcome to the forum Erjon!
Glad to see you here.
I will definitely post photos and give you my feedback on the Isotta windshield after receiving/installing it.
 
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: fshfindr on November 27, 2012, 08:15:21 PM
Erjon & Ludo, it just goes to show the quality of this forum.  I will wait for a report and a picture before ordering it for my Yager.  If the quality is good I will get the shorter one. 

Richard L.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Zimmerman on November 27, 2012, 08:22:41 PM
Rich & Group,

This may be a little off topic, but I gotta say I agree this forum is 'top shelf.'

The detailed info posted here is so varied and of such a high quality that it's like a wiki, or encyclopedia set (for ole guys like me.)

It's really a treasure.  What the heck did we ever do w/o the Internet ?  It was impossible to globally share info in a few seconds time with no effort at all.  Kids just can't imagine how much better it is.

KZ
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on November 27, 2012, 09:02:36 PM
I agree.... there is some great info here thanks to everyone.
Having someone from Kymco USA on the forum would be even better (like on SYM Forum)!

Btw, who runs this site?
It's important to question everything ;-)
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: mistereri on November 28, 2012, 08:32:40 AM
I think one of the Admin is John Adamo.
Thanks to John this site is up and running since 2007.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on November 28, 2012, 09:21:44 PM
Thanks to John Adamo then  ;D
Title: UPDATE !!!! ISOTTA E602 Windscreen for Yager
Post by: ludo on December 28, 2012, 03:08:08 AM
Update...
I finally got the windscreen. It took exactly one month (ordered on 11/26, shipped 12/06, received 12/26).
So Erjon, if you read this post, disregard my email.

Great packaging, screen was well protected.

At first it looked taller than I thought it would be and slightly thinner also (3mm).
The brackets are really solid and painted black gloss.
Instructions are in Italian and looking at all the screws, I decided to translate (thanks to Google) to make sure I install it correctly.

So here are my thoughts by category:

1) Fit:
The screen fits pretty well (as good as some Givi windscreens I had in the past on other bikes).
Everything is well aligned although, I had some problems at the end when putting the OEM lower plastic cover. Maybe it is due to the shape of the screen but one hole wasn't aligned and I had to run to the hardware store since I messed up one screw.

The mirrors will very slightly touch the screen if the handlebar is turned completely but when locked, there is NO contact (see photo).


2) Body Protection:
I am 5'11" (inseam 32") and I think this screen was made for me  ;D
By far the best upper body I have felt with any windscreen.
The top is at my eyes level. I need to stay straight to see above.

3) Hand Protection:
Overall, really good deflection of the wind. I wore my light gloves to test it (around 45F today) and after 30 minutes, only my pinkies were getting some cold air. With winter gloves, it's a non-issue.

4) Noise:
Complete silence (no wind noise) if I sit relaxed. Perfect really!

5) Impact on top speed:
So far, it seems that the top speed is not affected. I have been able to reach 68mph on a flat road. That's pretty much what I used to get before.
I will need to test it more on highways though.
 
6) Vibration:
Since day 1, I have heard some vibration noises in front of the Yager. It happens mostly when I put my feet up and stretch my legs.
Nothing has changed but it doesn't affect the windshield either.... if that makes sense.

7) Overall feel/quality:
To be honest, the screen feels thin (4mm would have make it feel more sturdy) but it doesn't vibrate nor flexes even at top speeds so no real problem here.

Knowing that there is a very limited choice of windshields for the Yager, I feel pretty good with my choice.
The size, shape and cost are really good and it does its job very well.
Overall I think it's a good windscreen.

Feel free to ask any questions. I probably forgot something.
Photos to come...
 


Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on December 28, 2012, 04:15:31 AM
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Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on December 28, 2012, 04:16:16 AM
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Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on December 28, 2012, 04:16:57 AM
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Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on December 28, 2012, 04:20:06 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Glad to hear it
Post by: mistereri on January 07, 2013, 08:13:26 AM
Happy New Year 2013 and I wish you all the best.

I am sorry to reply a bit late during last 2 weeks and I appreciate your work testing out the screen and writing these posts.
I happy that you received the screen and fits to your bike and your needs.
Yes 1 month delivery is too much but starting from January we started to use DHL Express.
This service delivers around the world from our company in Austria in 3 or 4 days max (if we have in stock).

If we do not have in stock then requires around 14 ~ 18 days.

I would like to hear also the opinion when it passes over 80 mph and riding more than 30 minutes. (Please be careful)
Feel free to share the ideas you have for this screen or can improve more.

One more last thing, can we mount your images under our product description ?

  Thank You
Erjon Galanxhi
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on January 07, 2013, 08:54:55 AM
Happy New Year 2013 and I wish you all the best.

I am sorry to reply a bit late during last 2 weeks and I appreciate your work testing out the screen and writing these posts.
I happy that you received the screen and fits to your bike and your needs.
Yes 1 month delivery is too much but starting from January we started to use DHL Express.
This service delivers around the world from our company in Austria in 3 or 4 days max (if we have in stock).

If we do not have in stock then requires around 14 ~ 18 days.

I would like to hear also the opinion when it passes over 80 mph and riding more than 30 minutes. (Please be careful)
Feel free to share the ideas you have for this screen or can improve more.

One more last thing, can we mount your images under our product description ?

  Thank You
Erjon Galanxhi


Thanks for the wishes Erjon.
No worries for the answer.
I got the screen as described and I was expecting to wait a little bit. Glad you guys found a faster way to ship it though.

Above 80mph?? That's never going to happen with the Yager!!  :-)
Top speed is about 73mph on mine.
I did 100 miles of highway this weekend at top speed and the windscreen performed very well. No vibration nor flexing at top speed either. All good.
I get some slight buffeting on the very top of my helmet if I sit very straight. Not a real problem due to the windscreen though.
One thing that can be improved is the hands protection (just a little bit more width would fix it).
Oh... and some instructions in English would help ;-)

Sure... you can use my photos!
Title: Re: Windshield for Yager
Post by: Charlie P on March 31, 2013, 03:08:38 AM
Has anyone else been successful in ordering/receiving a windshield from EURONETBIKE?   I have been trying to order a windshield from them but get error messages when I try to confirm order placement the "The merchant country is not supported".  Perhaps it is just a glitch over this Easter weekend.  I have emailed the company to try to get a windshield ordered.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on March 31, 2013, 05:00:00 AM
I had no problem ordering and receiving my windshield from Euronetbike.
Contact Erjon directly, he will help you.
Title: Windshield for Yager
Post by: Charlie P on March 31, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
Wow ;D- the company responded back to me within about 6 hours (a Saturday night at that!) saying their IT department had corrected a problem with payments via credit card.  They asked me to update my order (re-enter the credit card info since their site doesn't store it).  My order confirmation immediately came up and I was able to print my receipt.

Thanks to Euronetbike for their quick response.  I wish US companies would follow your customer service example.

Thanks to Ludo for finding out about the company and the windshields.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: MotoRandy123 on March 31, 2013, 01:25:55 PM
So how much was the total with shipping in USD?
I'm thinking I need a new windshield soon!
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Charlie P on March 31, 2013, 09:54:42 PM
Moto, the breakdown on my windshield order was (in US $) Windshield 103.97 with a 10% discount of 10.40 (don't know why- it was just on their website) for a subtotal of 93.58.  Shipping was $40.54 for a grand total of $134.11.  It shows being shipped via Austrian Post - but I don't know what that means.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: MotoRandy123 on March 31, 2013, 10:32:31 PM
Not bad considering other's are around $180. I'll have to run it by the wife though
I've been out of work for a while but start a new job tomorrow!

(Honey we can save gas if I ride the scooter to work...)
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on April 01, 2013, 04:28:05 AM
Wow ;D- the company responded back to me within about 6 hours (a Saturday night at that!) saying their IT department had corrected a problem with payments via credit card.  They asked me to update my order (re-enter the credit card info since their site doesn't store it).  My order confirmation immediately came up and I was able to print my receipt.

Thanks to Euronetbike for their quick response.  I wish US companies would follow your customer service example.

Thanks to Ludo for finding out about the company and the windshields.

Glad you got that resolved :-)
Enjoy the windshield!
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: mistereri on April 24, 2013, 10:30:05 AM
Hi Guys,

NewYagerRider sorry for confusion about Austria Post.

In Austria the most popular postal service is Austria Post, official Austrian post service.
When the products are shipped via Austria Post has insurance for us and the tracking number we get from this service works on major
post services like USPS or depending on countries national Post they have.

For mounting the windscreen please see this link:
http://www.euronetbike.net/graphics/isotta/added_desc/E602-en.pdf (http://www.euronetbike.net/graphics/isotta/added_desc/E602-en.pdf)

Any question please contact us.

Thank You

Erjon Galanxhi

Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Charlie P on April 24, 2013, 12:37:18 PM
Got my windshield on the 19th - so right at 20 days from order.  Installed it the same day.  I have only got to ride a few miles with it but WOW ;D ;D ;D ;D- this is great.  Before the windshield a 45 mph and faster ride would have the wind beating me to death-now I can ride 60 mph comfortably.  I haven't observed it flexing any.  Installation was very easy and quick. 

I certainly recommend this windshield for the Yager.

Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Fogie on April 25, 2013, 08:19:13 PM
For those who might be  interested, Givi windscreens for the Yager are available through Importations Thibault in Canada; here's their catalogue page:

http://bit.ly/ZwzBM0 (http://bit.ly/ZwzBM0)

I believe the Givi is slightly taller than the Isotta from Austria, and based on my discussion with EuroNetBike, the Givi is more expensive. Also, the Givi doesn't have the "Dink" graphic. I have no idea how they compare with respect to quality, installation, etc.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: MotoRandy123 on May 07, 2013, 12:06:08 AM
Finally ordered my Isotta today! $136 delivered! It's been pretty cold in the mornings around here lately
so this should help a lot!
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on May 10, 2013, 06:25:55 PM
Finally ordered my Isotta today! $136 delivered! It's been pretty cold in the mornings around here lately
so this should help a lot!

Great! It should help tremendously for cold mornings. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: mistereri on May 16, 2013, 10:35:02 PM
Hi Guys,

I would ask a small favor if it is possible to post some pics.

Thanks

Erjon
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on May 17, 2013, 01:42:18 AM
Erjon, I sold the Yager so I can't take more pics.
Do you want me to repost my photos or you need new ones?

Speaking of windshield, do you carry one for the Yamaha Maxam/Morphous 250?
Thanks!

Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: Charlie P on May 17, 2013, 02:26:32 AM
Erjon:

My Yager is exactly the same color as what Ludo had. And the windshield is the same- I sure do like the windshield.  I'll try to take some photos though and post them.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: modmaster on May 17, 2013, 11:46:11 PM
can anyone tell me if using the Isotta windshield has had an effect on their top or cruising speed?
modmaster
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: ludo on May 18, 2013, 03:26:11 AM
Not noticeably but the Yager was few mph slower with the bigger windshield.
I managed to get it to 73mph with it though.
It brings so much comfort to the ride; it's so worth it.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: JoeyP on May 25, 2013, 10:50:36 PM
Moto, the breakdown on my windshield order was (in US $) Windshield 103.97 with a 10% discount of 10.40 (don't know why- it was just on their website) for a subtotal of 93.58.  Shipping was $40.54 for a grand total of $134.11.  It shows being shipped via Austrian Post - but I don't know what that means.

Will it fit a 2012?
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: modmaster on May 26, 2013, 12:16:17 AM
I just ordered the Isotta windshield for my 2012 Yager. It should fit all the years of Yagers made and sold in this country. I think 2009-2012. I don't see any changes in them. Of course I could be wrong. It has happened on occasion :-)

modmaster
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: JoeyP on May 26, 2013, 04:22:12 AM
I just ordered the Isotta windshield for my 2012 Yager. It should fit all the years of Yagers made and sold in this country. I think 2009-2012. I don't see any changes in them. Of course I could be wrong. It has happened on occasion :-)

modmaster

link please?
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: modmaster on May 26, 2013, 05:04:21 AM
See reply #47 of this thread. http://www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/kymco/dink/windscreen-medium-protection-with-mount-a-420-for-dink-07.html (http://www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/kymco/dink/windscreen-medium-protection-with-mount-a-420-for-dink-07.html)

modmaster
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: JoeyP on May 26, 2013, 05:30:02 PM
See reply #47 of this thread. http://www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/kymco/dink/windscreen-medium-protection-with-mount-a-420-for-dink-07.html (http://www.euronetbike.net/isotta/scooters/kymco/dink/windscreen-medium-protection-with-mount-a-420-for-dink-07.html)

modmaster

Thank You Much
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: MotoRandy123 on June 09, 2013, 11:20:17 PM
Well I finally got my Isotta. Here's a picture of it vs the stock one;
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t478/MotoRandy123/DSCN3292_zps7dff5a68.jpg)

First thoughts, super calm air but have to look through it (and I got the smaller one) OK as long as it
doesn't rain!
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: MotoRandy123 on June 10, 2013, 08:04:43 PM
Noticed a desirable side effect today. The air was cool on my ride home but my hands were warm!
The screen routes the engine heat to your hands. With my fingers extended the whole finger was
being warmed up!

I also noticed the scoot needed 500 RPM's less to hold a given speed.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: modmaster on June 10, 2013, 11:38:45 PM
So Randy. It would seem that the windshield is very aerodynamic if it takes less rpm to maintain a given speed. If that truly is the case then you should get better gas mileage also. Check it out. I just got an email from Austria with a tracking number for my Isotta screen. Hope I get it within the next week or so. I just hope that the wind pushing against the screen doesn't cut back on performance.

modmaster
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: az_slynch on June 20, 2013, 08:52:57 PM
Bought a Puig windshield through my local Kymco dealer. It was my second choice to the FACO screen. The Puig part is 4539W. I'll get pics once I've fitted it to the scooter (hopefully tonight).
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: az_slynch on June 25, 2013, 11:01:13 PM
Fitted the Puig to the bike, but did not ride it. Initial impression is that it is not simply plug 'n play. The Puig screen is thinner than the stock screen and doesn't use the mounting screws that pass through the dash. The grommets from the original screen are to be re-used, but they are rather loose in the screen. The metal fittings that pass through the grommets are too tall, and prevent the mounting screws from pressing against the grommets. As a result, the screen mount is rather floppy. It doesn't follow the contour or the dash very well either, flares out at least 1/2" per side at the back of the dash, bends the black trim piece out and doesn't fit as cleanly as I'd have expected for the "Kymco approved" windshield to fit.

I'm ordering spare parts so I can try to tweak the mounts and try to make it fit more snugly to the base of the dash. Failing that, I'm going to look into heating and re-shaping the base of the screen a little so it will fit right. For now, the stock screen is back on. I'll report once I get the darn thing to fit right.
Title: Nice photo
Post by: mistereri on September 06, 2013, 08:07:52 AM
Hi MotoRandy123,

Glad to see the screen on your hands.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: eakins on April 19, 2016, 04:02:50 AM
So has anyone bought and mounted up that OEM/PUIG screen?
It looks the smallest and I like that.
got any pics besides this stock one found?

Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: KymcoRockr on April 22, 2016, 09:07:49 PM
We got the Puig and a FACO, and the FACO is very tall, but extremely stable. The Puig is very easy to mount, but it doesn't have any support like the FACO.
The rider is 5'8" and can barely see over the top of the FACO, but she prefers it. It appears to lose a couple of MPH with the FACO though.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: eakins on April 23, 2016, 06:04:00 PM
We got the Puig and a FACO, and the FACO is very tall, but extremely stable. The Puig is very easy to mount, but it doesn't have any support like the FACO.
The rider is 5'8" and can barely see over the top of the FACO, but she prefers it. It appears to lose a couple of MPH with the FACO though.

Thanks! The Faco can now be on ebay shipped to the US for $135.
The Puig can be found for $10 more on Amazon.

I think we are going to go with the shorter Puig and then add a Laminar Lip or Puig adjustable top wing.
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/puig-clip-on-windscreen-visor (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/puig-clip-on-windscreen-visor)
Even though more $ than the Faco along laminar flow is THE key to smooth air.
I would use a Givi Airflow system if one was avail as I use that on other scoots and bikes and laminar air flow is the only way to roll vrs a big barn door of a screen with back pressure on the back side. MRA also makes a clip on and bolt on version of this too. I like then how you can fine tune and adjust the airflow per need vs just accepting the height and flow of a fixed shield.

If the Puig shield does indeed flex too much, I'll rig up some brackets.
In the summer it's nice to have airflow from the stock shield and the Puig would be used for colder weather riding.


Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: RASTAVIPER on October 24, 2016, 05:28:14 AM
Hello guys,
 I wanted to check if these Isotta models are both compatible with my 2015 Dink200i.

http://www.euronetbike.net/is-e602.html (http://www.euronetbike.net/is-e602.html)
http://www.euronetbike.net/is-sc2724.html (http://www.euronetbike.net/is-sc2724.html)

Are they both good to try?
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: eakins on April 04, 2017, 06:26:45 PM
Hello guys,
 I wanted to check if these Isotta models are both compatible with my 2015 Dink200i.

http://www.euronetbike.net/is-e602.html (http://www.euronetbike.net/is-e602.html)
http://www.euronetbike.net/is-sc2724.html (http://www.euronetbike.net/is-sc2724.html)

Are they both good to try?

Sure looks like the 125i is built exactly like the 200i.
I think the medium listed is the exact one MotoRandy posted a pic above.

I like the medium better. Great hand and body coverage in the cold/wind.
Price is great as Euro is almost par.
Under $100 shipped to US.

The PUIG/Kmyco one is $50-60 more and does not include mount supports.

If too tall cut it down.
I think a cut down and a laminar lip added will give you great air flow.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: eakins on April 04, 2017, 06:40:19 PM
Well I finally got my Isotta. Here's a picture of it vs the stock one;
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t478/MotoRandy123/DSCN3292_zps7dff5a68.jpg)

First thoughts, super calm air but have to look through it (and I got the smaller one) OK as long as it
doesn't rain!

How many inches taller is this then the top of the stock shield?
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: eakins on April 04, 2017, 06:40:52 PM
Bought a Puig windshield through my local Kymco dealer. It was my second choice to the FACO screen. The Puig part is 4539W. I'll get pics once I've fitted it to the scooter (hopefully tonight).

Got a pic and how many inches taller is this than stock?
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: RASTAVIPER on April 04, 2017, 06:51:41 PM
Sure looks like the 125i is built exactly like the 200i.
I think the medium listed is the exact one MotoRandy posted a pic above.

I like the medium better. Great hand and body coverage in the cold/wind.
Price is great as Euro is almost par.
Under $100 shipped to US.

The PUIG/Kmyco one is $50-60 more and does not include mount supports.

If too tall cut it down.
I think a cut down and a laminar lip added will give you great air flow.

Hey buddy,
Thank got for replying, even after all these months.

Finally, Ibought a Falco one.
It's quite tall, but got at a good price from Italy.
Mounts included, at 74€.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: eakins on April 05, 2017, 03:06:18 PM
Hey buddy,
Thank got for replying, even after all these months.

Finally, Ibought a Falco one.
It's quite tall, but got at a good price from Italy.
Mounts included, at 74€.

link where you bought it and a picture how it looks?
i've been eying the Facos on ebay Italy .
thnx
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: RASTAVIPER on April 05, 2017, 04:53:16 PM
link where you bought it and a picture how it looks?
i've been eying the Facos on ebay Italy .
thnx

It was from an Italian seller at eBay, bit he doesn't have any similar items.
The code of this item is FACO 22676.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: eakins on April 06, 2017, 07:30:42 PM
Thanks. Yep I have that number and have this image of that Faco but was hoping to see it on the Yager.
we've yet to see that so maybe you can take a pic and use this service to post pics here:
https://postimage.io/

(https://s23.postimg.org/6ftr5klvr/faco_22676.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6ftr5klvr/)
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: eakins on April 06, 2017, 07:32:51 PM
It was from an Italian seller at eBay, bit he doesn't have any similar items.
The code of this item is FACO 22676.
https://postimage.io/
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: RASTAVIPER on April 23, 2017, 12:09:15 PM
Managed to wash finally the bike and take some photos.
I hope they are good.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: eakins on May 02, 2017, 06:59:15 PM
Managed to wash finally the bike and take some photos.
I hope they are good.

Thanks! Got any side shots too?
From the top of the black fairing trim (between light and shield) to the top of the screen, how tall?
That picture angle makes it look extremely tall on the bike, taller than the Givi.
I thought the Faco was smaller, mid-size between the Givi and the Oem screen.
Title: Re: Windshield
Post by: RASTAVIPER on May 02, 2017, 07:34:05 PM
dimensions
HEIGHT: 645mm
WIDTH: 580mm