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Title: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: Joshl722 on September 26, 2017, 02:52:35 PM
Hi all.. New to the forum after being the proud owner of an agility 125... Question is.. I got it as a non runner.. I'm about ready to start it and just noticed 3 random wires right next to the carb.. One green which I presume is earth.. A purple and red and a purple and black does anyone know what they are for??
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: msecanmo on September 26, 2017, 04:38:06 PM
These are the wires of TPS(Throttle Position Sensor) .
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: Joshl722 on September 26, 2017, 05:34:28 PM
Explains why it won't start then.. I have bought a gy6125 carb that looks to be some sort of copy, it has no tps or anything.. What can I do?
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: Joshl722 on September 26, 2017, 05:44:19 PM
Also I'm a little confused the more I read this... It's a 2012 kymco agility city.. I purchased as a non runner and it came with what looked to be a throttle body that did not fit.. I now have a carburettor as I noticed a vacuum tap and did a little digging.. Are they in fact fuel injected or on carb?? The carb fits both in and outtake perfectly..  But I also do have tps wires.. Is it a system similar to the new Aprillia rs 125 with a carb and a tps?
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: msecanmo on September 26, 2017, 06:19:58 PM
Also I'm a little confused the more I read this... It's a 2012 kymco agility city.. I purchased as a non runner and it came with what looked to be a throttle body that did not fit.. I now have a carburettor as I noticed a vacuum tap and did a little digging.. Are they in fact fuel injected or on carb?? The carb fits both in and outtake perfectly..  But I also do have tps wires.. Is it a system similar to the new Aprillia rs 125 with a carb and a tps?
This is what it looks like to me.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170926/ed06d63b509742d5a633a5c528728e3e.jpg)

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Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: Joshl722 on September 26, 2017, 06:32:29 PM
Many thanks pal... I have some mechanical knowledge however after owning about 30 bikes.. I've never owned a 4 stroke.. Or a moped so all the usual.. sh** I don't know what I'm doing while running round with my hands on my head moment is now over.. Carb ordered.. Lesson is don't buy cheap copys
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: msecanmo on September 26, 2017, 06:41:38 PM
It can work without the TPS. It is important that the carburetor enters the flange .
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: Joshl722 on September 26, 2017, 06:49:09 PM
What do you mean pal sorry... I'm not 100‰ familiar with the whole concept I've tried connecting the wires together etc but no joy if you hold the throttle in a certain place it coughs and sounds like it will fire but then kills the battery
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: msecanmo on September 26, 2017, 07:06:39 PM
Wires to isolate. Ler gas boost to 2000. I think it should work. :-\
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: Joshl722 on September 26, 2017, 08:54:44 PM
Yeah I'll play about with that fluffle valve n all. LOL!
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: Joshl722 on September 26, 2017, 09:00:52 PM
Seriously though is it just as simple as isolating some wires?
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: msecanmo on September 26, 2017, 09:06:41 PM

Tell us what you did and let the scooter work well
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: Joshl722 on September 27, 2017, 12:19:52 AM
Lol are you being serious.. All I get is someone taking the mick. .. Noone knows nothing??
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: msecanmo on September 27, 2017, 09:41:59 AM
As a rule, if you put a replacement carburettor without TPS, you should also change the CDI. I hope to make it clear to you.
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: Joshl722 on September 27, 2017, 10:05:31 AM
Yes thanks... I've noticed though that it's not plug and play.. Are replacement cdi units hard to wire in.. I have a few here and think I will Try it
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: 118118 on September 27, 2017, 10:28:10 AM
HI,

Forget changing the CDI. Forget the TPS sensor and just leave the wires hanging free. Fit the old or new carb. Set the idle screw 2 turns out from fully screwed in. Make sure you have good clean fuel in the tank. Make sure you have a vacuum line to the fuel tap to open it when cranking the engine. fit a vacuum line to the carb fuel pump (on the side of the carb). Connect the auto choke connector and give it a go. Use the electric starter rather than the kick start.
Good luck.   ;)
Title: Re: Help please please 3 random wires
Post by: msecanmo on September 27, 2017, 02:13:00 PM
HI,

Forget changing the CDI. Forget the TPS sensor and just leave the wires hanging free. Fit the old or new carb. Set the idle screw 2 turns out from fully screwed in. Make sure you have good clean fuel in the tank. Make sure you have a vacuum line to the fuel tap to open it when cranking the engine. fit a vacuum line to the carb fuel pump (on the side of the carb). Connect the auto choke connector and give it a go. Use the electric starter rather than the kick start.
Good luck.   ;)
Here's an electric scheme(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/76602ef2f3aead26b882755fd2123d02.jpg)

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