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Title: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: RubenC on February 12, 2017, 06:31:52 PM
Hi Everyone

Just over 2 weeks ago and just over 4k since my last belt broke, my 2012 Dowtown 300i belt broke again.  I don't know why this happening any suggestions.  Beside get a new scooter.  This time, I was using Dr. Pulley's sliders.

Ruben
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: CROSSBOLT on February 12, 2017, 10:45:30 PM
4k miles too soon based on experience of several riders on this forum. 20000 to 40000 miles and belt is still good seems normal for the DT300i. What weight of sliders and how do you ride the bike?

Karl
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: de dee on February 12, 2017, 11:25:51 PM
when the belt go,s that fast ,.  the pulleys could be off set, missing washers ( shims )  just take the cover off and look at belt with motor running
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: Mr. Paul on February 12, 2017, 11:47:41 PM
(This is a biggie) Did you buy a Kymco OEM belt? If not, that is your problem. Otherwise;
 Do you rev the scooter at traffic lights? Is the scooter idle set high? Do you ride two-up a lot with hills? Do you accelerate/decelerate rapidly? Sounds like something is causing too much heat in your cvt system. I would try to rule out riding style and conditions and work from there. Best of luck!
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: kneeslider on February 13, 2017, 03:54:14 AM
I think the issue is that the belt would not be original, hence the wrong specifications.
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: Mr. Paul on February 13, 2017, 10:44:04 AM
I think the issue is that the belt would not be original, hence the wrong specifications.






I suspect the same Kneeslider. Many after-market belts are not the same quality/size as the original.
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: Snorvey on February 13, 2017, 01:41:50 PM
I'm guessing that a belt snap isn't as catastrophic as a chain snap on a normal motorcycle?

I had a chain snap on my RD250LC once - it took half the crankcase cover away, the entire chainguard and gouged the swinging arm. It also wrecked the back tyre as it locked up, leaving monsterous skidmarks on both the road surface and my underpants.
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: RubenC on February 14, 2017, 12:40:12 AM
Kymco Belt
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on February 14, 2017, 12:58:35 AM
Kymco Belt
Wrong size KYMCO belt? You probably know it's correct, so, you are right. Something seems quite wrong.
CVT assembled correctly ?....front/back belt pulleys misaligned? ....the shims, washers, etc. in correct position or missing?
Airducts open on CVT cover for proper airflow ?
Riding at max speed for long periods with 2-up......if not - what else could cause belts to break so often?
Old/rotten/aged belt ?

HEAT, misaligned parts (incl. weights), gouged pulley surfaces, roller/slider weights too far away from stock size.
I got nothing else.
Please let us know what you find.
Stig
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: Mr. Paul on February 14, 2017, 01:41:19 AM
This ones a head-scratcher for sure Ruben! Let us know please.
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: de dee on February 14, 2017, 01:49:04 AM
  number 1 belt came with scooter,   1009/ 24    30 degree,.
 # 2 belt 1004 / 24.5    30 degree
 # 3 belt  1004 / 24.3   30 degree
 # 4 belt 1004 / 24.1   30 degree
    all kymco belts made by mitsuboshi,.      mitsuboshi spec.  1004 / 25.5    30 degree,   seen that on a spec. sheet from mitsuboshi,  never could find it again,
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: RubenC on February 14, 2017, 03:43:17 AM
 I am waiting to hear from Moxie's Scooters as to why this has happened.
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: RubenC on February 16, 2017, 08:33:10 PM
According to John @ Moxie's Scooter, the variator wore out that is what casued the belt to break. 
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: CROSSBOLT on February 16, 2017, 08:58:21 PM
How many total miles on the bike?

Karl
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: Mr. Paul on February 16, 2017, 09:20:55 PM
Thanks for the update Ruben! I am glad you found the problem. :)
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: CROSSBOLT on February 16, 2017, 09:44:00 PM
I checked your posts and you have over 40000 miles on your DT! Will you be able to identify the worn-out parts once the repair is made, maybe post some pictures? 40k miles still seems a bit short for the CVT mechanicals to be worn-out to me. But that is me: I expect stuff to last forever!

Karl
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: xsel777 on February 17, 2017, 03:59:11 AM
I have 60 000km,rolled over just the other day ,and zero issues with belts .I am using a belt well past it's replacement date. I might be 30 000km on it now. I looked at it last week end and inside dia had some visible cracks, outer, smaller cracks, and the sides super smooth. No loss in top speed or acceleration, and it also has not lost any width. And it's a GATES belt. On my 500.note:I have a spare in stand by 😁

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Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: cb325 on March 10, 2017, 05:46:38 PM
I have 30,600 miles on my downtown right now and just recently had to replace my variator as my old one was worn. Before replacing it I did go through a few belts in what seemed to be not many miles. Now it runs like new again and I love it.
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: shalbern on June 25, 2017, 05:30:09 AM
Hi xsel777,

Which GATES belt are you using?

Thanks in advance ;)
Title: Re: Another Busted Belt after 4K miles
Post by: Nireen on June 25, 2017, 06:01:51 AM
This is good for me to know thanks I won't be doing as much accelerating anymore! :) Don't to it a whole lot but sometimes depending on situation I want to move out fast and clear myself from traffic.

(This is a biggie) Did you buy a Kymco OEM belt? If not, that is your problem. Otherwise;
 Do you rev the scooter at traffic lights? Is the scooter idle set high? Do you ride two-up a lot with hills? Do you accelerate/decelerate rapidly? Sounds like something is causing too much heat in your cvt system. I would try to rule out riding style and conditions and work from there. Best of luck!