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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Downtown 300 => Topic started by: ScooterBroGuy on November 24, 2016, 06:58:54 AM

Title: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: ScooterBroGuy on November 24, 2016, 06:58:54 AM
Ill keep this short and sweet.
20,000km Service Due in 500km   - 20,000km = 12,000mile.
My 2013 Downtown 300i is 100% stock.

I do wheelies on my downtown, it struggles, i want more power / acceleration out of it

Whats the best of the best to gain acceleration, power

i dont wanna spend more then $800 on mods.

Cheers
Pete from melb
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: Snorvey on November 24, 2016, 09:00:46 AM
I'd buy a different bike.
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: kneeslider on November 24, 2016, 10:41:57 AM
You're doing wheelies on a DT?

What are you smoking, because I want some too.
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: ScooterBroGuy on November 24, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
You're doing wheelies on a DT?

What are you smoking, because I want some too.

yeah i figured them out the other day, normally i can wheelie scooters no issue however the downtown illuded me for awhile due to its heavy cumbersome power to weight ratio. i essentially stand on the passenger pegs to bounce the wheelie up while dragging a bit of rear brake, then once its up, it wheelies.
i just wanted to know whats the best  variator and pullies to get to squeeze some more acceleration out of the scoot.
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: xsel777 on November 24, 2016, 03:35:16 PM
I favor malossi sports  variator and malossi sports clutch.

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Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: Snorvey on November 24, 2016, 03:58:31 PM
You could always get yourself a fat girlfriend and stick her on the pillion?

Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: de dee on November 24, 2016, 06:12:47 PM
you could try lighter dr pulley sliders   twelve  or 13 gram   Wt. that will keep the RPM up ,.at low speed, seems to me someone tried 11 gram sliders a few years back.  they popped center out and grind a gram or two off  ,  watch it only comes out one side,  you will need your weed scales!
 and I used a belt sander with fine 400 belt for the grinding,
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: kneeslider on November 25, 2016, 01:01:27 AM
I'd love to see a video with a DT on his rear wheel.
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: Snorvey on November 25, 2016, 07:46:54 AM
Don't encourage him.
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: kneeslider on December 01, 2016, 12:55:52 AM
I am still not convinced a stock 300 DT would lift its front wheel by bouncing the front up, loading the rear with weight, applying the rear brake (????????? WTF was this???????).
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: deedah37 on December 01, 2016, 02:58:45 PM
Dr pulley HIT clutch
14 gram dr pulley sliders
     Or
13 gram dr pulley sliders.
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: CROSSBOLT on December 01, 2016, 05:35:52 PM
Get a Kawasaki Ninja or whatever. Get a motorcycle with lotsa power. All the scoot sport needs is for someone doing wheelies on public streets. Bad enough car people cannot see either motorcycles or scoots it is worse that they see one ridden like a unicycle. It is instant hate towards all who ride on two wheels.

That's enough. I think he's got it! The IDEA! I think he has gotten the message! Do I have to draw a picture?

Karl
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: Goodrich on December 02, 2016, 03:15:44 PM
I have 12g sliders, definately feel stronger acceleration.
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: de dee on December 04, 2016, 05:00:16 AM
You're doing wheelies on a DT?

What are you smoking, because I want some too.

in china you can see them doing wheelies ,they stand on the top box bracket , they would have to beef it up , to do that.,
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: agilebda on December 06, 2016, 10:04:34 PM
Ill keep this short and sweet.
20,000km Service Due in 500km   - 20,000km = 12,000mile.
My 2013 Downtown 300i is 100% stock.

I do wheelies on my downtown, it struggles, i want more power / acceleration out of it

Whats the best of the best to gain acceleration, power

i dont wanna spend more then $800 on mods.

Cheers
Pete from melb

All honesty. Ive tried the Dr Pulleys and they are not that all cracked up to be. Just changed sliders recently and 3 of them shifted position in the variator housing. I have come to the conclusion that the sliders are not meant to be inside a variator which is made for round shaped rollers.
I decided to purchase the original shaped rollers 20*12 in size and 14 gram in weight. They run much better than the dr pulleys. The low end still has torque and speed on the low end is not flattened out. I just love them. The top end remains the same and higher torque on the top end at 150 kph.
This is just my opinion and findings guys.  ???
Here's the link to the ones I purchased: http://www.ebay.com/itm/400922422501?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/400922422501?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: de dee on December 07, 2016, 01:50:04 PM

  On installation of variator this is one of the things you have to watch for ,  you have to hold the ramp plate in or the sliders and rollers will fall out, not the fault of the sliders,. 
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: tvniklas on December 07, 2016, 02:20:01 PM
All honesty. Ive tried the Dr Pulleys and they are not that all cracked up to be. Just changed sliders recently and 3 of them shifted position in the variator housing. I have come to the conclusion that the sliders are not meant to be inside a variator which is made for round shaped rollers.
I decided to purchase the original shaped rollers 20*12 in size and 14 gram in weight. They run much better than the dr pulleys. The low end still has torque and speed on the low end is not flattened out. I just love them. The top end remains the same and higher torque on the top end at 150 kph.
This is just my opinion and findings guys.  ???
Here's the link to the ones I purchased: http://www.ebay.com/itm/400922422501?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/400922422501?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
The original is 15.5g, right?
Ive tried 15g  DrPulley and i also wasnt pleased with them.
I drive 95% 40-90 km/h and my weight is 103kg.
Would i have any winning from them?
Better takeoff/acc?  Normal rpm?  The Pulleys gave me 500 higher rpm and a bit higher fuel consumtion
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: xsel777 on December 07, 2016, 02:45:49 PM
The Dr pulley sliders I had actually melted! I think my front variator plate(with the fins) lost its splines as well. I now have a sports variator with stock rollers. To compensate for the much bigger diameter stock rollers,I inserted another spacer(1mm), thinner than stock spacer(1.5mm), and now faster acceleration and higher top end.

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Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: de dee on December 07, 2016, 07:22:05 PM

  What would be your RPM. at 70 MPH,??   I modified my variator by grinding out the slides, about 1/2 way between GT 300 variator and downtown variator,. I bought both to see the difference,  and I striped the splines on one variator face from not using lock-tight blue, the nut came loose,. 
Title: Re: Time for Mods - Whats the best? Variator, pulley, wheelies etc etc
Post by: ScooterBroGuy on December 08, 2016, 12:48:45 AM
the scoot is staying stock for now,

im doing oil and transmission change today. (20,000km)