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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Downtown 300 => Topic started by: kneeslider on September 24, 2016, 03:41:29 AM
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Tried changing the grips today but the workshop guys told me it cannot be done as the throttle tube and its grip are moulded together.
Is the correct?
I purchased Spider Peak grips and would like them fitted.
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I seen something about 6 months ago,. and they installed foam covers over the grip,. the grip was glued on,.
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Horror.
Left side was a breeze. The right a nightmare, some Einstein at Kymco decided it was a good idea to mold the grip to the throttle tube. I tried slicing off the rubber but went too far and took out a decent chunk of the throttle tube - refer to pic.
Now, I need to source a new regular tube.
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Maybe sanding it a bit and using enough glue would be ok.
When installing heated grips on my motorcycle I used specific glue used for mounting heated grips, after 7 years they haven't moved a bit.
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Tried shaving it off with a blade, too much trouble.
Sanding would be a bigger PITA.
I just would like to get a new throttle tube without moulded grips.
Any suggestions on what fits?
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]take a look at powersportswarehouse.com
53140 lea7-eoo-h5r
grip comp throt. $20.06
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Hi,
Part number 53140 in the exploded diagram shows that the grip and throttle tube is separate....... but I know it is mounted together.
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Recently changed my grips on my GTI....yesterday actually. It's quite easy. Firstly you will need to purchase the entire 7/8" grip setup. (not the slide over grips) they'll be a pain in the backside.
It's easier to get the entire OEM grip off by spraying a little brake cleaner to soften the adhesive. This way it will be alot easier to remove. The grip system that I ordered has the entire throttle cable junction.
Please see link for photos
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByldrEqY6D2CM0NoU2l2ajdtUUk (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByldrEqY6D2CM0NoU2l2ajdtUUk)
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You mean the throttle tube and grip actually are not moulded together?
Maybe mine molded together after 3 years of service.........
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You mean the throttle tube and grip actually are not moulded together?
Maybe mine molded together after 3 years of service.........
What do you have on your brake levers? You can just notice it in the first photo.
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You mean the throttle tube and grip actually are not moulded together?
Maybe mine molded together after 3 years of service.........
They are molded by adhesive. Brake cleaner or Carb & Choke cleaner should easily remove.
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What do you have on your brake levers? You can just notice it in the first photo.
brake lever covers.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bicycle-Foam-Antislip-Bike-Brake-Lever-Handle-Bar-Grip-Black-Blue-4-in-1-/131901087135?hash=item1eb5eadd9f:g:TXAAAOSwnQhXppa~&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bicycle-Foam-Antislip-Bike-Brake-Lever-Handle-Bar-Grip-Black-Blue-4-in-1-/131901087135?hash=item1eb5eadd9f:g:TXAAAOSwnQhXppa~&vxp=mtr)
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Thank you for that. :)
Paul
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I tried removing the throttle grip today on the DT300, it's impossible to do without completely destroying it. I think the OP is correct in that the rubber grip and the throttle sleeve is molded together. Brake cleaner and wedging an allen key/flat head screwdriver only broke the rubber apart. I'm done messing with it for now and will just install the heated grips on a different bike
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Yeah, I've been trying to find a replacement throttle tube which is has a quick throttle function.
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Yeah, I've been trying to find a replacement throttle tube which is has a quick throttle function.
Hey kneeslider, I took apart the kill switch assembly by removing the 2 Phillips screws from the bottom to reveal the throttle sleeve and the 2 throttle cable ends that attaches to the sleeve. It looks pretty easy to change out if you can find a throttle sleeve that fits. I bought this one for around $7-8 shipped. Hopefully it will work here's the link.
http://m.bonanza.com/listings/7-8-handle-bar-hand-grip-dual-cables-throttle-sleeve-tube-sportbike-scooter-atv/392591623?goog_pla=1&gpid=18283950120&keyword=&goog_pla=1&pos=1o2&ad_type=pla&gclid=Cj0KEQjwp4fABRCer93Klpaki94BEiQAsXJMGgSm-E-RW7MsI2sAdJyR8E789bGxih6jdkmMrsVMxlkaAlzK8P8HAQ (http://m.bonanza.com/listings/7-8-handle-bar-hand-grip-dual-cables-throttle-sleeve-tube-sportbike-scooter-atv/392591623?goog_pla=1&gpid=18283950120&keyword=&goog_pla=1&pos=1o2&ad_type=pla&gclid=Cj0KEQjwp4fABRCer93Klpaki94BEiQAsXJMGgSm-E-RW7MsI2sAdJyR8E789bGxih6jdkmMrsVMxlkaAlzK8P8HAQ)
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Yeah, I actually took my apart to measure out the cam diameter, cam thickness, winding diameter, tube length, tube inner diameter.
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Yeah, I actually took my apart to measure out the cam diameter, cam thickness, winding diameter, tube length, tube inner diameter.
Were you able to find a throttle sleeve that matches the stock dimensions? The one I ordered is being shipped from China and will probably take a few weeks to arrive
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I kinda did.
The throttle sleeve by Active. I better double check on the overall diameter as well as the cam offset again just to be sure.
I am curious of yours. Would it give you a quick throttle?
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Were you able to find a throttle sleeve that matches the stock dimensions? The one I ordered is being shipped from China and will probably take a few weeks to arrive
Hi, have your throttle tube arrived?
How was the fit?
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Hi, have your throttle tube arrived?
How was the fit?
Hey Kneeslider, sorry for the late reply...I haven't been on here in a while but yeah the throttle sleeve came in a while ago. It fits inside the control housing fine and seems to work okay. The stock throttle sleeve has grooves or channels for the cables to ride in, the chinese replacement does not, this kind of worried me at first but after riding with them and snapping the throttle back and releasing it many many times my worries about it went away. Also the chinese throttle sleeve has different dimensions for the stops, I don't remember how far back the throttle will twist with the stock grip sleeve, but the chinese one SEEMS shorter to me. WOT will get me to around 80-90 mph, if I'm climbing a small grade at 85+mph, my speed will drop the around 80. Does that sound right to you? I only weigh 150 lbs so I would assume it wouldn't have any trouble sustaining top speed...I didn't really test top speed before hand though. Also, I installed heated grips on the chinese throttle sleeve and the fitment was pretty darn tight, not sure if that bad boy is ever going to come off...I didnt even need to use the supplied glue to install the heated grip because the plastics pretty much fused together from tapping the grip onto the sleeve. LOL
Here are some pics I took of the throttle sleeve when I was fitting them, the white one is the OEM one, the black one is the chinese replacement.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/kevinheaven/b174bceb-6a8a-406c-a80b-40398833b66b_zpsytrtefrs.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/kevinheaven/media/b174bceb-6a8a-406c-a80b-40398833b66b_zpsytrtefrs.jpg.html)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/kevinheaven/20161025_160921_zpslv7yi3xi.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/kevinheaven/media/20161025_160921_zpslv7yi3xi.jpg.html)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/kevinheaven/20161025_160914_zpspvjm9g6v.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/kevinheaven/media/20161025_160914_zpspvjm9g6v.jpg.html)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/kevinheaven/20161025_164217_zpsr34mk6qp.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/kevinheaven/media/20161025_164217_zpsr34mk6qp.jpg.html)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/kevinheaven/20161025_170034_zpshhq1pv85.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/kevinheaven/media/20161025_170034_zpshhq1pv85.jpg.html)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/kevinheaven/20161025_170055_zps72ky7wsq.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/kevinheaven/media/20161025_170055_zps72ky7wsq.jpg.html)
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Hey, thanks for the pics.
I probably will go with the ACTIVE throttle tube. I better double check the dimensions of the original cam & the clearance inside the cover of that cam so I can try to fit a new tube with a bigger cam for the quick throttle action.
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Hey, thanks for the pics.
I probably will go with the ACTIVE throttle tube. I better double check the dimensions of the original cam & the clearance inside the cover of that cam so I can try to fit a new tube with a bigger cam for the quick throttle action.
Sounds good, let me know how it goes!
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My ACTIVE throttle tube arrived. I ordered the model with a 40mm cam for a quick action throttle tube.
First of all the specs are different from the original throttle tube, the cam is substantially larger plus the diameter of the cam without the hock in points is larger than what the throttle housing can take. Trimming had to be made.
Even that, the top of the housing still wont close, so I had to hardwire the bottom of the housing to the bars to keep that locator pin in place so it doesn't move around.
Anyways, it's not the ideal installation, but it works.
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I wrap a semi-clean rag around the grip to be changed and pour boiling water over it...
redk