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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: imaginetheory on August 22, 2016, 10:09:25 AM
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Apologies if this is in the wrong section - Im new to this forum but not new to scooters. I have been riding since I was legally aloud to and have owned around 30 different scooters over the past four years. Ive had Honda visions (elites and aeros) Honda Melodies (spree?) DirectBikes Tommy (chinese retro) and a few manual bikes too! But Ive always had this thing for scooters, I just enjoy riding them more than I do manual bikes.
Ive had my 2011 Kymco RS50 Agility 4 stroke nicknamed BumbleBee for three months now, but have only had her in my actual possession for one of those months (you'll see why later on in the thread..) I purchased it for the sum of £230 as a runner but impossible to start without jump starting it off of a car! >:( It needed a MOT too and was far off being able to pass one. I got it home and started on it, I threw in a new battery, starter motor and starter bendix and it fired up first try. Gave it a oil change, Did the valve clearances, changed the belt and put some stupidly light rollers in that I already had on the shelf. It failed the first MOT on the wheel bearings being too rough (i knew about it, was just winging it on the off chance the tester would pass me) but passed on the second test after i had changed the wheel bearings.
Rode it around for a few days (3 days) when I was heading to my first scooter meet with it and I got rear ended by somebody using her phone on the approach to a island.. Got pushed a good few feet before she even attempted to hit her brakes and ended up underneath her car. Somehow the scooter wasn't TOO badly damaged however my insurance company wrote it off as it was the parts were too expensive for them to even consider repairing it. I have damage to my left knee but thank god I can still ride ;D
Ive just purchased the scooter back off of them after recieving my payment for it and have paid a very small % of what it is actually worth. It needs a new registration plate, A new rear mudguard, Footboard and lower belly panel as well as some paint work and new mirrors, a new exhaust and a new rear shock. Im waiting for the scooter to be delivered back to me when they pick up the hire bike, then I can start with the "mods" that I have planned.
When I first purchased it -
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It had been used as a field bike so was FILTHY -
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Gave it a real good clean -
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It was the day after the last picture was taken when I got rear ended, the road got closed off by the police, The car was lifted off of me and the scooter by bystanders and both me and the scooter dragged from underneath it. That was the last time I saw my BumbleBee. I went off to hospital and the scooter got recovered by my insurance company. I do have the following pictures though..
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I was pushed all the way from the zebra crossing in the background to where the car sits there...
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In this one you can see where the rear mudguard and reg plate has been pushed in, It actually touches the wheel from what ive been told.
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and you can see the damage to footboards here along with my lovely snapped exhaust (at the joint to the silencer)
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So my plans for it...
Install a luggage rack and top box (I am a mobile scooter mechanic and need to be able to carry LOTS of tools), LeoVince exhaust, going from 4g to 7g rollers and fitting a kevlar belt. The drive boss and CDI have already been done. I have a few other Ideas in the works (possibly even a engine swap over winter) but Im going to spend some time reading up on the forum on possible improvements.
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Hi, Glad you came out all right after being hit. Hope she received a good punishment for what she did, could have easily turned out a lot worse for you. Any way welcome to the forum but a first name might help. :)
Cheers, Paul
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Hi, Glad you came out all right after being hit. Hope she received a good punishment for what she did, could have easily turned out a lot worse for you. Any way welcome to the forum but a first name might help. :)
Cheers, Paul
Hi Paul,
Unfortunately it doesn't look like there will be any action taken against her by the police, even though she was using her phone. Eight weeks later they still havent taken the case to the Criminal Prosecution Service, They are extending their investigation and havent added a end date to the file, usually that means that they won't be bothering. Despite the fact the one injury that I do have will affect me for life (Knee). Isn't surprising though, The police dont care much for people on two wheels around here and care more about seizing the bikes than they do anything else.
RS. Corey.
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Sorry about that Corey. I have a real dislike of people using the phone whilst driving, so careless.
Paul
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Some progress.
Got the scooter back today and instantly got started on it.
Gave it a good wash as it was filthy, the black plastics were grey. There was paint marker all over it from where the salvage yard had written on it. The battery was completely flat as they'd left the ignition on since they picked it up. I gave the black plastics a treatment of back to black, will do another tomorrow and another at the weekend so it really soaks into the plastics. Ive fitted new mirrors, they're not the standard ones but they are sorta close. Fitted some 7g roller weights and gave it a check over. Getting a new battery tomorrow hopefully. Im waiting on a luggage rack from a older Agility to arrive so that I can fit my 51l top box (mobile scooter mechanic so need the storage space) and I need to do the valve clearances again at some point. Also have another exhaust to fit to it but need to get some new torx key bits to remove a bolt that a previous owner fitted, will replace the one torx head bolt with a normal bolt. Here's a picture of it after it having its first clean with my other scooter -
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Keep us posted. Good to see she lives to ride again. :)
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Keep us posted. Good to see she lives to ride again. :)
Will do.
Might be purchasing another to use as a donor bike for parts (frame bent beyond repair so has to be stripped and frame destroyed by police to ensure it never gets used on the road again) So Ill be able to keep BumbleBee going for quite some time.
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Some good news!
The driver of the car who rear ended me was today arrested and charged with causing life changing injuries through careless driving, Operating a handheld device whilst driving a motor vehicle and Breach of the peace (just for shouting at me), She will be going to court soon :)
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Great to hear Corey. Hope she learns a lesson. :D
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Parts are slowly starting to arrive.
The rear rack came today, Just got it on. I need to make a tab and weld it to the rack as the rear centre bolt is just a little bit off but I expected that. Im happy with it anyway.
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Hey Corey, don't know what part of the UK you are from but have you ever been to the 'Bike Shed cafe'. I'm a bit of a Charley Boorman fan and was watching this interview and thought what a great place that would be to visit. https://youtu.be/8rIAo4iDMI4 (https://youtu.be/8rIAo4iDMI4)
Paul
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Yes, Went there on my old Suzuki DR125 :)
There's quite a few places like that over here, Not usually my thing but it was pretty cool.
If you are ever in the UK, Snake Pass, Devils Pass, Hardnock Pass, The Cat and Fiddle and the Long Mynd are all places you should visit/ride. Beautiful roads and views.
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A picture that was taken by one of my customers yesterday, I was there to do a wiring loom swap on a 99 Piaggio Vespa ET4, Unfortunately the loom was the wrong one and I wasn't about to mess about moving the Immobiliser/CDI, Coil etc etc to make it work.
Anyway, this is their scooter, 2Tone Tess with BumbleBee.
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The chequered front panel looks great. At least you get to see a good range of bikes and scooters.
Paul
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its definitely a perk of the job. I get to ride a lot of different scooters too. Ive ridden 2Tone Tess a few times, The owners are mods. Here is a side on picture of when I did the Valve Clearances on that one a few weeks ago -
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and here it is with the 2016 Honda Vision 50cc I had for two months (you can just see part of it in the background)
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Unfortunately its now coming to the time of the year when I will need to take up full time employment in a Warehouse to keep me going over the winter as trade slows down to a near stop. Its almost the end of the riding season here but were still getting some nice weather 8)
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Good pics, thanks for sharing. Coming to the end of winter here in Australia so I will be riding in some warmer weather soon. :)
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Picked up another donor agility today. Its a 2007 125, the frame has to be destroyed but I can take whatever parts I need from it, Spending the day stripping it down so I can drop the frame off to the police by the end of the week. Im having the engine, wiring loom, brakes, forks, handlebars, wheels, engine mount and Im going to cut the rear shock mount off the frame too.
The plan is to do ALOT of measurements, to see if the engine swap would be possible. Then Im going to rebuild/refurb the engine, brakes, forks and modify the wiring loom to take the standard lights on my scoot. Once all that is done (I estimate Ill have it done beginning of December) Ill strip BumbleBee down to the frame, have it blasted and powdercoated and start fitting all of the 125 parts.. Im HOPING it turns out to be a nice little sleeper that I can use every day for work... Ive already been asked why dont I just buy a legal 125cc and ride that around... wheres the fun in that?
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Top box fitted. Before I went to a custoemrs here where I was fixing a Hardley Ableson ;)
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With some top boxes on scooters they just don't suit. I think that was another reason I really like the Kymco LIKE as the top box really looks good.
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Its not a case of looks for me unfortunately, Its a must have. :(
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Just a quick update -
Unfortunately I wont be able to put the 125cc engine into this frame as I had planned to. My insurance company have said that they wouldn't cover me and ringing around a few others, they wouldn't either. Which is fair enough. So Ive got all those bits, I think Ill just buy a 125cc frame to build up over winter.. Still need to do something with BumbleBee though. It desperately needs the valve clearances adjusting so Im going to do a full on service. New fuel and air filter, New oil, New plug and cap, New transmission oil, Possibly redo all of the fuel lines, carb clean.
Going to spend some time looking into performance mods too, I could really do with a little more acceleration out of her upto 30mph as its starting to get a little dangerous with it refusing to go over 25mph at times..
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Some good news!
The driver of the car who rear ended me was today arrested and charged with causing life changing injuries through careless driving, Operating a handheld device whilst driving a motor vehicle and Breach of the peace (just for shouting at me), She will be going to court soon :)
Shouting at you???? She should have been shouting APOLOGIES for being so careless and causing you injury!! Geez !!!
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Shouting at you???? She should have been shouting APOLOGIES for being so careless and causing you injury!! Geez !!!
Yep, I know. Unfortunately a lot of drivers here have the messed up mentality of the might is right. TBH it was a good job that the police officers and passers by were holding me down stopping me from moving.. If they weren't, Injury or not, Id of gotten up and made her feel like she had 12 rounds with Mike Tyson. Im also not aloud to attend the court hearing for HER protection. Speaking to my lawyer who will be attending to read my statements and present all the medical evidence etc etc he says she will likely recieve a short sentence, a lengthy driving ban and should be ordered to take an extended/advanced driving test once her ban is over. Hopefully it goes as well as my lawyer thinks it will and she learns a lesson.
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Really hope she does learn a lesson. Sad to say but the attitude of some drivers are scary. Even when they are in the wrong they fully believe they were right in their actions.
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Really hope she does learn a lesson. Sad to say but the attitude of some drivers are scary. Even when they are in the wrong they fully believe they were right in their actions.
I see it all the time. Today for example, A local government employee decided that she was going to TRY to force me to move over in MY lane because I was turning right at an intersection and she wanted to go straight. "hahaha look at you on your chicken chaser" she was a government employee. Not anymore.
Another one was "white van man" who was less than 3ft from the rear of my scooter while I was doing 35mph in a 30mph area... Tried to overtake me, I stopped him from doing so as it would have been dangerous for both of us.. He got out of his vehicle at the next intersection to try and fight with me because he had "the might is right" mentality. He is now being charged with dangerous driving and endangering a vulnerable road user. Police officer who happens to be a biker said I was 100% right doing what I did.
Anyway, Im currently playing with my new GPS. I say new, Ive had it for quite some time, Just never thought to use it on the scooter. This method of mounting is temporary, Got some supplies coming this week to mount and power it properly.
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Put that gps on a tether just in case.
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Put that gps on a tether just in case.
Nowhere to do that on this one. The mount is S-T-R-O-N-G, I can put it on the window of the house and hang a toddler from it ::) 8)
Im waiting for a new mount to come this week, Installing it and hardwiring it into the scooter. Also putting in a hidden killswitch and some LED recovery strobe lights on a 2nd battery (yes, I seriously need them). Lots of pics to follow etc etc.
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Had a top end rattle to investigate. Adjusted valves, changed oil and cleaned the spark plug. All is well again.
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Ive got an issue that is driving me nuts and for some reason I cant figure it out.
Scooter is now riding slower than it used to, It just doesn't rev as high and it wont go faster than 25mph unless its down a steep hill.
Ive checked the rollers and belt and they are fine. Its got fresh 10w40 semi synth oil. The valve clearances have just been set to 0.04 on both intake and exhaust. The spark plug was cleaned on last service.
Need to get this figured out and sorted quickly as Im currently using my brothers scooter for work.
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Problem now sorted.
Rollers were WAY too heavy. The pack said 7g but when I weighed one it weighed 13g >:(
5.5g rollers fitted and shes nippy how I like her again :D
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Good to hear you sorted out that problem. Don't forget to put up a couple of photos once your new gps mount is sorted.
Paul
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Update on the GPS front.. Recieved the mount and waterproof case, I was going to cut the plastics on the bars to mount it to the actual bars but decided not to. Wedged in a few rubber pieces (I know you cant really see it) into the mount and fitted it to the right hand mirror. Its nice and solid doesnt move. The case itself goes on nicely but feels a little cheap, For peace of mind ive drilled it in the back and will cable tie the case to the mount just in case i hit a big bump and it dislodges itself.
Where its mounted, It doesnt stop me from using any of the switches, Doesnt obscure the mirrors and is still in a reasonable line of sight. For now, the 12v socket is loose under the seat and I just run the charger from under the seat straight to the bars, What I will do is take plastics etc off and route the GPS charger through the panels and up through the handlebar covers to the case, so itll look nice and tidy :) Apologies for the poor quality pics, Im using a basic phone right now.
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Thanks for that.
Paul
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Looks good! Now Ive got to get me one!
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Here is the one I bought on ebay, similar to yours but has a shade hood which works well but does look a bit bulkier. The mount attaches under the mirror mount and is able to be twisted into the position you want. Does get a bit shaky over the bumps but does work good enough.
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I was going to go for a mount similar to that however because I own a few bikes and switch between them all the time, I wanted a mount that I could just hook on the bars and go. I dont want to have to unscrew mirrors all the time, It gets a pain in the butt sometimes.
Im now retiring BumbleBee as my "workhorse" she has been replaced by a brand new TGB125. Im keeping her and will still be doing the 12v install etc just won't be riding her as much as I used to. The decision to do this had to be made, at 19,800KM shes showing her age and is becoming a little unreliable. The TGB was at a good price by the dealer, I got trade price on it and they have a good reputation within the courier industry over here.
Ive fitted the old grab rail back on, have a footboard and belly panel on order. Ive got LED strips waiting to be fitted as a bit of a "something to do when bored" project.
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Ive been having a little play today. The GPS mount snapped in the tumble I had, Being a cheapskate and wanting to experiment a little, I tried to fix it by plastic welding it. Its fairly strong and I cant see it breaking through normal vibration etc. The other side looks ALOT neater, I just didn't take a pic because I had left my Soldering iron to rest on a plastic trash can :o :-[ I plan on attempting to repair the current foot board and belly panel using the same method, If I am successful I will return the new ones and save myself some ££
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Interesting. Going to get a better mirror mount for mine.
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Not a whole lot to update on.
Havent been riding it, Just starting it up occasionally. I plan to get it started up tomorrow, do another oil change and start using it to visit the GF on. It needs a new battery and I need to get around to putting a proper connector onto the wiring to the starter motor, but it works fine the way it is right now so I havent bothered. New bulbs are coming from China ::) Should be here around the 20th and I have a few plans for small and cheap mods to make it look a little better.
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Wheels are currently off so I can take them to have new tyres fitted on Tuesday, New exhaust has arrived and will be fitted when wheels go back on. Waiting on a pack of electrical connectors to come so I can fix the starter motor wiring and Im about to do both engine and gearbox oil changes so its ready for winter :)
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Been having issues with drivers pulling out on me when it starts to get a tad dark... Not anymore ;D
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