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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Forbes1964 on July 04, 2016, 03:44:06 PM
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As I type this, I am in icu in a hospital in Panama City Florida. Compound fracture on left leg. In pain[emoji26][emoji24][emoji16], but very much alive. Thankfully I was wearing my helmet and Riding jacket. So the damage was confined to the leg. Better to worry about the outcome on a leg than a head or chest injury. . Keep me in your prayers [emoji1488][emoji1488][emoji1488]
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Have done , and will continue to do.
Very very sorry this happened to you.
Regards from Stig
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Look on the bright side, hospital=NURSES!!!
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Look on the bright side, hospital=NURSES!!!
Male nurse in the day. Older woman at night. Oh well....
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Glad to hear you’re okay and getting help. After any crash, if you can think, talk, and even write (type) you’re in good shape (relatively). I’m curious about the details, but rest and take it easy for now.
- Wolf
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glad to hear you're OK....hate to hear about fellow scooter riders getting in accidents...when you're feeling better please share your story!
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So sorry to hear, Forbes. You got it on the prayers. I just don't wanna hear you suited up and then fell off the ladder 'cause your garage door opener malfunctioned! Rest easy and mend. Let us know what happened later if you feel like it.
Karl
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Best wishes for a speedy recovery from here in England
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I know, a broken leg is no fun. I`ve had my left foot broke twice.
Will pray you have a speedy and complete recovery.
When you get to feeling better, give us the details.
boo
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Forbes, so sorry to hear. Hope you have a speedy recovery. I would usually say something, to lighten the mood, but accidents are no laughing matter. Glad that you are alive!!!! Feel better soon.
-Rich
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Pure carelessness. I was riding a night on a somewhat unfamiliar road. Looked away for a second. The road curved right. I kept straight. Ended up hitting the raised center median at 45-50mph. Before I knew it , the scooter ended up back in the road. And I ended up in the median. Left foot dangling and bone sticking through. THREE cars passed by without so much as asking if I needed help. One lady made eye contact and kept going. The others had to go around the still lighted scooter laying down in the road. Thankfully, I had the presence of mind to crawl to my scooter (in the road) and get the phone out of the front storage compartment and call 911. Then someone finally stopped and was able to give better instructions as to my location. Some bone is missing. But circulation is getting better. Getting ready to get taken to a hospital at home. As long as circulation is good, they will be able to reconstruct bone after several future surgeries. Again, thankful for the helmet and Jacket. No significant damage to anything but the left leg. Your continued prayers are appreciated.
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Forbes...
I really appreciate that you gave us your scooter accident report!
Your information is now stored in our scooter riding heads....and if we pay attention to it - will make us all better, safer riders.
There but for the grace of God....etc.
Extra caution needed:
1) night riding
2) unfamiliar road
=↓↓↓s p e e d
We, and you, know this.....but now a reminder to us all. Much appreciated@
Prayers for the best recovery.
Stig
PS...I keep my phone inner pocket of riding jacket......in case I'm so far out in the shrubbery over the cliff that it is too far to crawl back to scooter and the emergency Moon Pies! ....and cell phone.
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Forbes, complete respect! Anyone who can crawl with your injuries is a badass. Sorry about the injury, though, and I hope the reconstruction surgeries are successful and will allow you to return to an upright life and more.
People are horrible, and fearful. Ours is such a litigious country that people are more afraid of lawsuits than helping one another. And yes, night riding, especially on unfamiliar roads, is dangerous. I’ve heard stories of worse accidents by over-confident, if not arrogant riders. You’ve earned your war-story and then some.
Heal well and quickly!
- Wolf
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OMG that's terrible but your alive/healing so that's good and you've got internet in there. Here's to a quick recovery so you can get back to scootering.
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Always hate to hear about a Man Down situation. Hope the pain stays manageable and the nurses get cuter! Take care of yourself and good luck with the recovery. Hopefully you are up and riding again soon. Best wishes and prayers, Forbes
Bill
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too many accidents in the last month. Glad you're alive though the community lost a rider last month great guy tore me up some. Get well quick bro.
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Update: they moved me back to my hometown, Tallahassee, Florida. That's a plus since most of my family and friends live here. Also there is a full time specialist that deals with this kid no of stuff. They are going to go back in and see for themselves what can be done. So pray that they feel confident in saving lower leg and rebuilding the bone. Thanks again. God bless. Side note. Extended family will beverages n town this weekend for the Forbes family reunion.
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ohh shoot!!
bad to hear that you had an accident but good that you are capable of sharing with us.
you recently got a majesty right?
hope surgery can be done and over time get 100% healed.
hang in there!!
i also had an accident recentlly... using the correct gear saved me. its good to know you also had the right stuff on!
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Thanks for the reports, but so sorry to hear that this has happened to you. We are keeping you in our prayers for a complete recovery. Best wishes!
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Dude sorry to hear of your travails. Life has a way of changing so quickly. It's a forced rest for you now and time for inner reflection, something sometimes that's forced and never chosen. The learning curve on riding is sometimes steep and therefore this will make you a better rider. Looks like change is in the air. Wear it well.
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Been away for a couple four, five days. Really sorry to hear this. I'm glad your injury wasn't worst. I can't believe people drove by without stopping to help. What's the world coming to? Anyway I hope you heal up fast and fully. Glad too it didn't effect your humor. It's the best kind of medicine you know?
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Sad development. But I'm remaining upbeat. There's a strong possibility that I may lose part of my lower leg. Lost 4" of shin bone. Multiple breaks in the other bone, muscle loss, and soft tissue loss. Any one or two of those things would be a fairly workable procedure. However , with problems in all those areas the task would be long (12 or more months) and arduous AND would likely result in a problematic and chronically painful lower extremity with little practical use. He stated that he believed that I liked the outdoors and extensive walking . And that any major walking would be nearly over. He also stated that I would likely have to change careers (auto mechanic) and get a desk job. In other words the limb would be mostly for looks rather than function.
But if I choose amputation and a prosthetic lower leg and foot, it would still involve significant lifestyle changes. But I should still be able to walk outside and I enjoy it. And I could continue to be an auto mechanic. I could also be able to be on my "feet" in around 6 to 8 weeks from the beginning of the process because I'm still "relatively" young and seem to be a quick healer.
Of course, I'll get a second opinion before making a final decision. And I still am praying for a miracle. But for now I'm leaning towards letting her m cut it off and getting it over with. He states that he's in the business of salvaging limbs. But he also believes in telling the truth to his patients. He also has a good reputation. But he ain't God. So the final decision is mine alone.nprsybthatbll make the right decision. Thanks guys
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Wish you all the strength and determination to get through this and hopes that they are wrong about saving the leg without long term pain or loss of use. :(
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Hey, Forbes, I was thinking about how you are doing this morning. Hope everything is going well. Just wanted to let you know, that we didn't forget about ya. To a speedy recovery
-Rich
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Again, much love to you all. Thanks for taking time to read my updates and to wish me well. I realize it may be a downer. But having some people with the same hobby to share with is very valuable to me. I don't know any of you personally. But you seem like old friends. Bless you all.
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Hey Forbes....
It is with a sinking heart that we read of your latest.
Yes sir....2nd opinion needed.
As an old Vietnam medic.....I can tell you that your amazingly positive attitude will go a long way to getting the very best outcome from your injury.
Oh hell yes you're going to have some dark moments....as you face this test with your body .....go there....do that for as long as you need to to get through the moment.
Then recover. ...as many times as you need to. It is often cyclical.
You had a bad break. No argument.
Keep your chin up troop!
You will get through this....because you are not walking this thing alone.
You are not.
Prayers from Tim H's patio.
Stig
(had to go in and get some dadgummed napkins to write this.... :-) visor down!
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Forbes...
DO please contnue to keep us posted.
Stig
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Forbes, hang in there buddy, your scooter family here is cheering for you. As Tom has said; attitude is everything and it looks like yours is healthier than most. In Victor Frankl's book, Man's Search For Meaning, he studied the psychology of those in Nazi concentration camps of which he was a prisoner too. He was a psychiatrist and observed who survived and who didn't. Often, the physically healthier ones died first because it was one's sense of purpose in their life that made the real difference in their survival. Those that found meaning in their suffering was crucial and those that couldn't settle into camp life and get on with things, often gave up hope and withered away.
Like you said, you're still young, strong and can heal quickly. You'll do well dude. I can feel it in me bones.
Dan
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We will keep you in our thoughts and prayers. You are one of us. We are a scooter family.
When an injury is life changing, it is serious. I hope the doctors can reconstruct your foot so it functions well.
A friend of mine lost his lower leg to diabetes. He gets around pretty good but, says he has trouble walking down hill, especially on a grassy slope.
Please keep us posted on your progress. We care.
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:( I sure hope a second opinion (or third or ...) results in better news. Feel free to bend our ears. Continued prayers for you for strength.
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Hang in there, Forbes. It sounds like you are getting sound advice on both sides the issue regarding your injury, but do what you feel is the best for you. Medical science has done great things in the area of damaged limbs and bones. The miraculous has become more common, giving us hope on many levels.
Keep us updated. I think it's safe to say everyone here would donate a limb, or bones if that were possible. I'll give you my virtual one to help you stand tall.
- Wolf
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Praying for the best possible outcome.
Take your time on any decision to amputate. I've seen hundreds of very successful limb salvages over the last 12 years. I'd also get more than just a second opinion as most doctors see removal as the last choice. Expediency is not always best.
That said I've seen some of my guys literally climb Everest on their prosthetics. All tried salvage on the remaining leg/legs first.
Take your time and I wish you nothing but the best.
AMAC
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Geez, that's such a tough decision. We will be here, supporting you and keeping you in our prayers. All the best!
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Second opinion was virtually the same as first. Actually, this is the THIRD opinion because the trauma surgeon in the ER In Panama City gave virtually the same prognosis. But I discounted it because it wasn't a hometown (Tallahassee) physician. And it wasn't what I wanted to hear. And i thought that Trauma surgeons just like to cut because it's simpler.
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Side note: my first cousin works in the recovery room at TMH in Tallahassee. As I was regaining consciousness, my initial pain level was off the scale. And I was confused as to where I was. And they said I was thrashing around trying to remove tubes. She saw me and came over and held my hand. I saw her face and I immediately began to remember where I was. I remember telling her how glad I was to see her face. I told her how much I loved her for being there. She told me to hold her hand. But she said that I nearly cut off her circulation. When she visited me this morning , She was surprised that I remembered most of what I said. She said that I spoke all my mind. She joke that she was now CERTAIN that I had no deep seated resentment against her because I would have spoken them. Lol.
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Anyway, when I told her my prognosis she welled up in tears. But when I stated the things that would be involved in ATTEMPTING to salvage my leg, she stated that she had seen several people endure that process only to either 1. Get an infection somewhere during the process and have to restart or to amputate anyway. Or 2. Successfully complete the process and be so disappointed with the results that they either say it was NOT worth the effort or to eventually tell the physician to amputate anyway because being without the limb could not be worse than the constant pain. So unless I hear a SIGNIFICANTLY different course of salvage treatment, I'm leaning towards letting them amputate. I hate it. But... If the END RESULT is a better quality of life, then I'll go with results. So far, all three physicians would persue very similar courses of treatment if they were to try to salvage the limb.
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You're writing. ...we're reading , Forbes.
Hang in there.
Stig
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You're writing. ...we're reading , Forbes.
Hang in there.
Stig
Thanks Stig. I know I've been writing a lot. But it seems to be therapeutic. Again thanks.
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You write as much as you can stand and, like Stig said, you write and we will read. This goes way beyond a bunch of people that love to ride.
Karl
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Such a tragedy...So sorry you're going through this! However, the gear you were wearing most likely saved your life, or quality of it!. Limbs are important, but not needed to live a normal life. I'll keep reading your posts, and pray for your speedy recovery.
Best,
Bear
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Sounds horrendous but keep your chin up, look on the positive side, you're still with us :)
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Forbes, I am sorry but I have been away from this forum for a few days. When I read your original post, I stopped and said a prayer for you. When I kept reading, I prayed some more. I am praying that God will see to your needs spiritually, mentally, physically, and financially during this time. You are in my prayers and thoughts big time Forbes. Stay in touch brother. You are always free to PM me if you need anything...Paul
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Tomorrow A.M. I'll have the below the left knee amputation done if nothing changes. Thankfully, I'll still have my knee. I May or may not be in contact tomorrow depending on how I feel. But I'm confident that the God I serve will bring me out victorious on the other side. Again, blessings to you all. And I'll be in contact as soon as I feel up to it--- with a good report. Amen.
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Forbes, we will be praying for you and a successful outcome. Rest. Rest. Rest. It won't be long before they are dragging you out of bed for rehab. All of our thoughts are with you.
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best of luck for tomorrow and im impressed in how positive uve been allong. hope surgery goes smooth and recover fast to be standing again.
good luck tomorrow!!!
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Sun will be up in a few....thinking about you Mr Forbes.
Stig
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Ditto on what he said. Sun is now coming up, a pretty day here in East Texas. Haven't been on my scooter in a few weeks now as we were working up till dark every day after our other job, preparing for a special visit with my kiddos from California and Austin. Another grandson came in for the summer a few weeks ago and I promised Jaxon that we would go on rides together on my scooter as soon as we got this Birthday party over with. So, we had the big birthday bash this weekend so perhaps today we will get out on a ride. I told him however he had to wear all the gear for protection which means wearing grandma's gear. She's tiny and he's 12 so the size thing should work out. Just wonder how the lad's gonna do with some pink graphics on Deb's riding jacket?
Just jabbering Forbes. Hang in there buddy.
Dan
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We'll be here when you are ready.
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Prayers and best wishes going out to you today. Rest up and let us know how things went whenever you're ready.
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Still in our thoughts here in England
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Ditto.
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Hope all is well, Forbes. Everyone here has you in our thoughts. Get well, dude!
- Wolf
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Hoo-rah, Forbes. What everyone said.
Karl
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Here for ya bro in thoughts and prayers
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Forbes, I hope everything went well. How are you feeling? I'm in Myrtle beach, on vacation, but I was thinking about you and was wondering how you made out. Hope to hear an update soon. God bless you!!
-Rich
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Monday afternoon Amputation successful. Physical therapist had me out of bed and using a walker to walk Down the hall a short distance on Tuesday afternoon. Surgeon just inspected and said it looks fine. Pain is manageable. MAY be released as early as tomorrow morning to continue rehab at my mother's house until I can become independent. Yes, I would have liked to have my OWN leg. But that's water under the bridge. Thankful it's s good as it is . God bless you all . Continue to keep me in prayer.
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Monday afternoon Amputation successful. Physical therapist had me out of bed and using a walker to walk Down the hall a short distance on Tuesday afternoon. Surgeon just inspected and said it looks fine. Pain is manageable. MAY be released as early as tomorrow morning to continue rehab at my mother's house until I can become independent. Yes, I would have liked to have my OWN leg. But that's water under the bridge. Thankful it's s good as it is . God bless you all . Continue to keep me in prayer.
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You're in my thoughts and prayers Forbes, You sound like a strong person and will no doubt rise to the occasion and do whatever it takes to move forward with your life. Are you OK financially? Man if you need some help let someone know as there are many here who I'm sure would be happy to help you, like me.
Dan
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As riders we all know the dangers and risk that can occur the moment we throw our legs over our seats and start up for a ride. I think I can speak for all of us when I say the uncommon courage and bravery that Forbes has shown in not only openly sharing with us here on Kymcoforums the details and consequences of his crash, but his unshakable calm in facing the life changing decisions he had to make.
Many of us would not be able to do so. I know I would be a mental, physical and emotional mess.
I’d like to propose a Tribute, an Accolade or official forum Commendation in Forbes' name to recognize a member who has demonstrate uncompromising bravery in the face of the risk and hazards of 2-wheel riding. What form that may take should be open for discussion, but I’d be honored to sign my name
to anything physical, or even digital in its creation.
Thoughts?
- Wolf
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Yes! Let's put a bug in Wayne Kreps ear for a classy sticker! Regardless of which leg, Forbes, whether yours or Lockheed's after market, you can still ride when you are ready! You can walk and resume life as it was. H'ray!
Karl
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yes, Forbes, your strength and courage under these difficult circumstances should be an inspiration to all. It takes a special person to face this head on , like you have. I can only hope that the rest of us could deal with something like this with a tiny amount of the courage that you've shown. You are a man among men.
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Lord willing, I may be discharged tomorrow and taken to my mother's house where I'll receive in home rehab and skilled nursing care. I'll still be keeping you updated. Again, you guys are simply the best!
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Hello everyone. Forbes sister has started a Gofundme site to help out with expenses. If you wish to help, the link can be found here;
https://www.gofundme.com/2coyb9g (https://www.gofundme.com/2coyb9g)
I am going to continue to pray for Forbes and also send him some love ;)
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yes, Forbes, your strength and courage under these difficult circumstances should be an inspiration to all. It takes a special person to face this head on , like you have. I can only hope that the rest of us could deal with something like this with a tiny amount of the courage that you've shown. You are a man among men.
Well said. I think we all echo this sentiment for Forbes. He's an inspiration to us all.
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Monday afternoon Amputation successful. Physical therapist had me out of bed and using a walker to walk Down the hall a short distance on Tuesday afternoon. Surgeon just inspected and said it looks fine. Pain is manageable. MAY be released as early as tomorrow morning to continue rehab at my mother's house until I can become independent. Yes, I would have liked to have my OWN leg. But that's water under the bridge. Thankful it's s good as it is . God bless you all . Continue to keep me in prayer.
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Continuing prayers. Two young kids crashed ( tire wobble sent them into oncoming traffic) in front of my house about 5 weeks ago, no helmets. Driver lost his right leg on scene, passenger suffered severe head injury and just came out of coma to go to rehab. Advanced EMT that I am , I went out to render what aid I could...pretty much a "scoop-n-run" situation. Still makes me wary of what can happen. Driver is being fitted for his proshtetic, now, and knows he can't ride a non-automatic two wheeled vehicle again, but- is optimistic about what he can do with the newer prosthetics available now. Eve with a prosthetic a scooter is viable, if you want to continue to ride. You will know if you do. Keep the positive outlook , it will aid in your healing more quickly. Do not give up on rehab work, just work harder, it will pay off. Healing/positive thoughts and prayers continue .
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Doing well. Didn't get released due to dragging insurance paperwork. Hopefully tomorrow. Long road to recovery. But with God, All things are possible. Thanks guys.
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Glad to hear things are going well and wish you all the best Forbes.
Regarding this:
Driver is being fitted for his proshtetic, now, and knows he can't ride a non-automatic two wheeled vehicle again
There is an organisation in the UK who might disagree.
The National Association for Bikers with a Disability (http://www.nabd.org.uk) do sterling work getting people back on two wheels.
Here's an idea of what's possible: http://www.nabd.org.uk/adaptions/javaindex.htm (http://www.nabd.org.uk/adaptions/javaindex.htm)
Perhaps it would be worthwhile establishing a similar organisation in the USA if there isn't one already?
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I'll second that about staying with the rehab!
I was trained at Brooke Army Medical Center, TX, during the push in Vietnam.
Those who fought through and stayed with the rehab had much better quality of life as a result. I know you will.
Hang in there Mr Forbes.
Best regards
Stig
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Glad to hear things are going well and wish you all the best Forbes.
Regarding this:
There is an organisation in the UK who might disagree.
The National Association for Bikers with a Disability (http://www.nabd.org.uk) do sterling work getting people back on two wheels.
Here's an idea of what's possible: http://www.nabd.org.uk/adaptions/javaindex.htm (http://www.nabd.org.uk/adaptions/javaindex.htm)
I would think that braking ( right foot) or shifting ( left foot) would be quite difficult with prostheses
Perhaps it would be worthwhile establishing a similar organisation in the USA if there isn't one already?
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"I would think that braking ( right foot) or shifting ( left foot) would be quite difficult with prostheses"
Which is precisely why the NABD give help with adapting bikes.
Its amazing what can be done.
http://www.nabd.org.uk/openhouse/openhouse45/45p10.htm (http://www.nabd.org.uk/openhouse/openhouse45/45p10.htm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvXkTGbrrnM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvXkTGbrrnM)
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You write as much as you can stand and, like Stig said, you write and we will read. This goes way beyond a bunch of people that love to ride.
Karl
Well said Karl and Stig. I thought it was worth another mention.
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Made it to my mother's house about an hour ago. [emoji3][emoji3][emoji3]. One step closer to independence. Mother will keep me fed. Two of my nephews will help to insure that I can maneuver safely around the house. Nearby family and friends will keep me company. Home health nurse will start on Monday to take care of wound maintenance. Rehab will keep me strong until I'm fitted for a prosthesis. Feeling thankful. Taking the long road one step at a time ... Literally. Continue to pray for my recovery. Thanks.
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Great to hear your out and at moms place, press on. :)
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I am so glad you are home with Momma Forbes. I will keep praying for your recovery and even abundantly more. Keep the posts and updates coming. I look forward to them.
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A buncha people praying for you, Mr. Forbes. That will be noticed with God.
Karl
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That's good news.
Best regards
Stig
(Placed the fundme on two more scooter forums - hope that was OK)
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That's good news.
Best regards
Stig
(Placed the fundme on two more scooter forums - hope that was OK)
You are awesome Stig. Love, angels and prayers to you Forbes and riding angels to everyone.
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Great idea, Stig. Hopefully this will accelerate the funding meter.
- Wolf
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Way to go Stig!
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Forbes ill be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. I was feeling bummed cause I had a wreck a couple of weeks ago, but seeing a guy handle this as well as you puts me in perspective. I hope you are up and about soon, and I'm glad you got family to help you out.
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We've got your back, Forbes. Love your positive attitude, buddy! Just saying a prayer for you now - God bless!
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Did I mention that you guys are simply the greatest? Lol. To receive such love and support from guys who never knew I existed until January of this year is simply overwhelming. Anyway here's a progress report. At my mom's house being spoiled. My mother is almost 85 , and she has her own issues such as severe arthritis in her right knee. But she's a fighter. This morning she got up and cooked me breakfast, went to her garden and worked until almost noon, then cooked me lunch and made certain that I ate it.
As for me, the home care nurse says I'm healing nicely .
I was feeling stir crazy because I've NEVER been stuck inside for two weeks. So before it got too hot, I had my nephew stand close in case I needed help. And I used my Walker to walk around the OUTSIDE of the house. When using my upper body and one leg, It was different and slow going. But praise God I DID IT! A small step. But I'm on my way back.
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Congrats on the victory today Forbes! Praying for you. "then cooked me lunch and made certain that I ate it." Now THAT is a Momma! ;D
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You be sure to thank your momma. Great progress report. That attitude of yours is why your recovery will be a success, oh and momma's TLC.
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Every happy Mom, wants a chance to be Mom again. Glad to hear you're doing well Forbes. Slow, and steady will get you there.
- Wolf
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Nope. No invalids here. Move along. Maybe people with a few dents and scrapes, that's all. This is a picture in the dictionary above the word, "Trooper". HOO-rah! for Forbes and Mom!
Karl
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Forbes, glad to hear, that your getting up and starting the process. It will be a challenge, but one that you will overcome. Keep it up!!!
-Rich
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Nope. No invalids here. Move along. Maybe people with a few dents and scrapes, that's all. This is a picture in the dictionary above the word, "Trooper". HOO-rah! for Forbes and Mom!
Karl
No Parking Forbes. Stay positive. Tell mom hello.
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Appetite coming back. Injury healing slow and steady. Pain slowly decreasing but decreasing nonetheless. Now I'm learning the lessons in patience that I've preached to others about so often. I'm just waiting until I can begin the process of being fitted for a prosthetic leg and begin that phase. It will come soon. I just wish it was sooner. But I'll wait. And I WILL succeed.
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Glad to hear your appetite is coming back and your are doing better day by day. Being able to enjoy food is one of the blessings of life, especially mommas' good cookin'. I am pulling for you and praying for you Forbes. You will make it through this just fine. Have a great day man...
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If you gonna be a bear, be a GRIZZLY BEAR!
Karl
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Nothing new to report except for the fact that the home care nurse says that the wound is healing nicely. That's good news. Also, when it's not too hot, I'm using my Walker to walk outside for a change of scenery. Thanks for the continued well wishes and prayers.
Darryl
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Keep goin'! Hray!
Karl
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Attended church yesterday. First time since my accident. Prior to this, I'd never missed more than one Sunday. I'm on my way back.
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More good news. Thanks for sharing.
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Attended church yesterday. First time since my accident. Prior to this, I'd never missed more than one Sunday. I'm on my way back.
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This is fantastic news. Forward progess all the way!
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That is great news Forbes! I am glad you are getting out there where you belong. Did you fight the urge to preach?
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dude way to go!! 😀
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That is great news Forbes! I am glad you are getting out there where you belong. Did you fight the urge to preach?
Yes, I had to fight it hard. Lol. But I gave part of my testimony of God's protection. Couldn't tell it all in one day. Even though I didn't preach, just being in the number was priceless. By the way, the speaker was wonderful. One of the members gave me his exercise chair , so I could increase my upper body strength. His wife gave me a nice donation that I did not expect at all. And although the rest of the members aren't people of means, the LOVE they showed me was priceless. I couldn't buy that with money even if I was rich. Yes, we are a VERY small congregation. And most are poor or lower middle class. But the BEST things aren't material anyway. They are full of the love of God. That alone gave me just a little more strength.
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Forbes,
I've been following this thread for some time and find it hard to come up with words that convey your strength of character and determination. It struck me that someone was able to give such an account of your last few weeks but I guess that typing on those keys is a sort of therapy. So glad you are on the mend and seem to be as positive as you can. I'm not sure I would have the wearwithall to withstand the test you have with such grace. So glad you are making steps everyday towards a little more normalcy. Take care.
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Forbes,
I've been following this thread for some time and find it hard to come up with words that convey your strength of character and determination. It struck me that someone was able to give such an account of your last few weeks but I guess that typing on those keys is a sort of therapy. So glad you are on the mend and seem to be as positive as you can. I'm not sure I would have the wearwithall to withstand the test you have with such grace. So glad you are making steps everyday towards a little more normalcy. Take care.
Thank you sir. If you had asked me even 1 minute prior to the accident if I would be able to deal with this as I have, I would have said "no way". But I'm finding that if life takes an unexpected and undesired twist, it will also give us the strength to deal with it if we are willing to tap into it. It's not easy. But it's possible.
Got my surgical staples removed Thursday. Will be given some sort of Shrinking device for two or three weeks. Then I'll finally be fitted with a prosthetic leg. I CAN HARDLY WAIT! Then I can begin my journey toward normalcy in earnest. Until then, I'll just be patient and continue to do my exercises to strengthen the rest of my body for the transition.
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Great report Forbes! I am sure having the staples out is a HUGE milestone in your recovery. Be careful with that "shrinking device" though. I saw what one of those could do on an episode of Star Trek. ;D ;D But seriously, its good to hear from you man. I am continuing to pray for ya.
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Great news. I have a feeling the time will fly by, or will fill you with the motivation to exercise. Based on your updates I hope this means the worst is behind you the best is yet to come.
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Forbes, you are an inspiration. I really admire the courage you've shown through all of this. It would have been easy to have been bitter and angry at the world, but you didn't go that route. i applaud you sir. God bless.
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I'm glad your improving Forbes, things are looking up for you compared to weeks ago. Your outlook seems to be more optimistic. That can help in your healing too. There's a thread on ADVrider site called faceplant. Some inspirational stories on there. Some worse, some not so much, some are no longer with us. You might want to give it a look, maybe it can help. I'll say a prayer for your recovery Sir, may God the Father bless you in all you do!
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Since today was a 5th Sunday, we didn't have Traditional church. But my sister in law suggested that we (my mother, a sister, my oldest brother and his wife, and my oldest nephew) meet at a local lake and have a short worship under the oak trees followed by a little ride in my mother's golf cart and a walk on the ramp on the lake. Yes it was HOT! But the outdoors was simply exhilarating.
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Sounds like you had a wonderful day Forbes. I was smiling while reading your post. God bless man. :)
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I find getting out of doors is the best pick me I can give myself sometimes.
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I find getting out of doors is the best pick me I can give myself sometimes.
Absolutely 100% true
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Yesterday I returned to the pulpit for the first time since my accident. The last time I preached was the 4th Sunday in June. By the way, although I made provisions to be seated if necessary, I was able to stand for the duration of my sermon by simply either leaning on the lectern or bracing on my Walker. Thank God for one more step toward normalcy. Still waiting to be fitted with my prosthetic leg when conditions are met. Meanwhile, I refuse to put life on hold while waiting.
AGAIN, THANKS FOR EVERYONE's SUPPORT.
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Great news Forbes! I am glad to hear you are back in the spiritual saddle, so to speak. I truly admire the spirit God has given you through all of this. Did y'all sing "Leaning on the Everlasting Arms?" ;D Still praying in Georgia.
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Forbes, you are getting to be.......w'll just say, you have "BOUNCE BACK" figured out and in place! You are a fine example of what Daniel would do.
Karl
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Glad to hear you life is becoming more and more normal, with little obstacles in your way. Continue with your updates. We're all rooting for you!
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Don't leave us to wonder, what was your sermon?
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Don't leave us to wonder, what was your sermon?
My sermon was taken from Ecclesiastes 3:1-15 The key verse was verse 14. It compared the many changes in life to the PERMANENCE of what God does. No matter the twists and turns of life, no matter the uncertainties, We can ALWAYS depend on God to be unchanging and enduring.
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Great sermon. :)
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Amen :)
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Pastor Forbes,
You've probably realized that your congregation is growing.
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Well, in a way it is. When I noted on Facebook on Saturday night that I planned to return to the pulpit the next day, a Lady asked me to record the sermon. So I made an audio recording and emailed it to her. She asked me to send others. Also, I've been chronicling my recovery and thoughts on my Facebook page almost daily. And folks are reading them that are not on my friends list. So it seems as if I have a "Facebook congregation" too. Lol.
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Well, in a way it is. When I noted on Facebook on Saturday night that I planned to return to the pulpit the next day, a Lady asked me to record the sermon. So I made an audio recording and emailed it to her. She asked me to send others. Also, I've been chronicling my recovery and thoughts on my Facebook page almost daily. And folks are reading them that are not on my friends list. So it seems as if I have a "Facebook congregation" too. Lol.
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I would love it if you could PM me your sermon Forbes.
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I would love it if you could PM me your sermon Forbes.
I got the email. Great sermon!
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Forbes, sounds like you have a book in the making. Seriously, I would consider it.
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Forbes, sounds like you have a book in the making. Seriously, I would consider it.
- Wolf
My sisters tell me the same thing. To me it seems that it's just something that few others would be interested in. But who knows?
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Gearing up for phase 2. The insurance company fight. I'm already seeing areas where the insurance company is going to give me grief. 1. Out of network charges. -- The accident happened at night. And out of town. And the anesthesiologists and night time surgeon were "out of network" as were several other doctors involved. So they don't want to pay their normal percentage 2. Getting prior approval for certain tests and procedures. Example: the Cat scan and other tests as well as some of the medical procedures.
Most of these fights will occur concerning the FIRST hospital. But a few disputes are from the Second as well.
I realize there will be significant out of pocket and co-pays. But if they think I'm going to pay 50+ thousand in out of pocket charges, they have lost their minds.
The home care nurse that I had for a while said that I could expect insurance company and hospital fights and disputes to drag out for over a year before the dust settles. Oh well... At least I'm in good shape mentally. --- For now. [emoji23]
I'm sure the hospital will appeal the insurance decisions because they want to be paid. And they know that Cigna has more money than I do.
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By the way, the charges if I'd had no insurance are 87,000 at hospital #1 and 83,000 at hospital #2 . Ambulance service not included. Again I'm VERY thankful for insurance. But MOST OF ALL , I'm thankful to God for life.
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Backed into a corner with being put in the middle by big-shot insurance companies and lawyers pay 'em $2.00/ month and just WAIT for one to refuse the payment. Once any effort is refused the debt is paid in full. You will win in every court in the nation. OK, pay them $10.00/ month...the end result is the same in your favor.
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Hey Forbes. If you got your insurance through your employer, I would try to use their insurance department to help navigate all of this. In the end all of this nit-picking may be a moot point. If your insurance coverage has an individual yearly out-of-pocket maximum, that is all you are responsible to pay them. Most of the "negotiations" should happen between the hospital and your insurance company. If the insurance company gives you too much grief I suggest you contact your State insurance commisioner. In Georgia they do an excellent job of advocacy. At the very least, they could steer you towards some helpful resources. Sorry about the long post. Hope this helps you. Will be praying about this.
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Took slightly more than a year (about 14 months) to settle with the insurance company of the left hand turner who cut in front of me. Having said that getting as much insurance beyond liability is so worth it. Had the other guy not have full insurance as well, my medical, dental and future cost would still have been covered by my own carrier
If your own or the other person’s insurance company does give you trouble getting the help of a lawyer is a good play as well.
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Hey Forbes. If you got your insurance through your employer, I would try to use their insurance department to help navigate all of this. In the end all of this nit-picking may be a moot point. If your insurance coverage has an individual yearly out-of-pocket maximum, that is all you are responsible to pay them. Most of the "negotiations" should happen between the hospital and your insurance company. If the insurance company gives you too much grief I suggest you contact your State insurance commisioner. In Georgia they do an excellent job of advocacy. At the very least, they could steer you towards some helpful resources. Sorry about the long post. Hope this helps you. Will be praying about this.
Me complaining about another person's long post would be the ultimate in hypocrisy since I'm known to post without editing. Lol.
But yes, it is through my job. And there are out of pocket maximums. One for in network. And another for out of network. It is my contention that there should be Very few out of network costs due to the fact that it was an emergency situation. Also, they are saying that some procedures were not pre approved. So they don't have to pay. . But I'll let them and the providers hash that out. I'll wait until they are finished, then I'll jump in if the results are not what i feel are right. I'll go ahead and pay the out of pocket in network costs because there's no question that they are legitimate. And I'll willingly pay some out of network costs if they are legitimate. In the end, everyone will be paid since I received EXCELLENT care. It's just that I refuse to be taken to the cleaners because of a nit-picking, loophole seeking insurance company. I don't foresee any major concerns with the prosthetic leg and everything that pertains to it since there is time for everyone to get prior approval and also all those providers are in network.
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Another surprise. Motorcycle insurance policies don't automatically include PIP coverage. Didn't realize that until they told me after the accident. I had assumed that it was like auto insurance where PIP is included in the most rudimentary policy. Partly my fault for not reading carefully.But I would have thought that my agent would have mentioned pip when I bought the policy. But The scooter was covered. And thankfully I had Gap insurance, especially since I bought it with no money down and had made only ONE payment.
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Insurance woes aside, Thus far I have been able to keep up with my expenses thanks to a disability policy that covers SOME bills, and great people who stepped in with financial gifts. Some of you were in that number. Again I THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart. I find that I spend gifts and contributions more carefully than I spend my own money. If all goes well, I believe I'll weather this mostly financially intact. That's worthy of giving God thanks for because I've seen many go into financial ruin. PRAISE GOD for his faithfulness!
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I'm not sure if I'll ever ride again. I think I could. But my family and other people that love me dearly would simply be PETRIFIED. So I'm factoring their feelings into my decision. But meanwhile, I'll ride vicariously through YOU GUYS. So share some GOOD STORIES!
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That decision to ride again is your decision and yours alone. Neither what we of the forum think nor what the family thinks changes that. Too soon anyway. Yes, DO NOT be a stranger! You are one of the qualified to give insight and guidance. You would miss some of us eating crow when our technical theories are proven incorrect and the apologies when some of us take ourselves too seriously (I'm talkin' about ME!). Well, don't be a stranger, anyway!
Karl
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Sounds to me like you have "got this" Forbes. As far as you riding again, there is plenty of time for you to decide later. I do believe it is appropriate to consider the people that love you in your decision, especially momma! No matter what you decide, I also hope you will stay an active member here. If you are not going to do a book, how about a blog on your day to day progress and things. Including soap operas. ;)
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Would not be the first to go to a used Miata cabrio for nearly the same thrills sans the danger of two wheels.
Stig
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There's always the option of trying a trike, or a sidecar for more stability. Three wheels, or two, it doesn't matter to me. You'll always
be one of us.
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Thanks guys. I've joined a couple of other scooter forums. Maxi Scoots and Majesty USA. The folk at Maxi Scoots are nice enough. Just not as much activity. Too many on the Majesty forum are just too negative. They seem more intent on constantly whining about the Majesty's minor flaws. On here, even though you all recognize that the various Kymco scooters have their flaws, the basic consensus is that you generally love them. Not only that you all seem to enjoy LIFE more. And you don't take yourselves too seriously. Folks like you are great to remain in contact with.
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Yes, it's too soon to make a decision. I think my accident spooked several people. One of my high school friends rode his motorcycle to come visit me in the hospital. He stated that he could hardly ride home. And is considering getting rid of it. Another friend of the family ( we call him our adopted brother) was going to purchase a Harley as his retirement gift. But He has knee problems, so my scooter intrigued him. Now he's spooked as well and has changed his mind about getting two wheels of any kind. Perhaps time will calm them down . My immediate family and one or two close friends are the only ones (other than my God and myself) who will have any influence on my decision. I can already see getting 7 phone calls per day to see if I made it home. (My mother and my three brothers and three sisters) . I can't blame them, I'd do the same with them. I already sit on pins and needles after church on Wednesday nights until my 85 year old mother calls to tell me she made it home safely from my house. We're all a little touched like that.[emoji23][emoji23]
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Anyway, I'll remain in touch with you all either way. Perhaps when I get my prosthesis and master it, we can all become rational again. My oldest brother reverted back to being over protective. He's big brother with a touch of our deceased father combined . As the youngest of 7, everyone has entered into "protect baby brother " mode. Lol. But it's a GREAT problem to have. I may be expressed in strange way. But it's GREAT to be loved. Too many people have NO ONE who cares about them.
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I'm blessed. I asked my oldest brother if he would improve my front steps and install some handrails. He's building me 6'x6' front stoop.
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You are indeed blessed Forbes. Allowing you brother to help you, helps him. I think you understand what I mean.
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Yeah, Forbes, there IS something special here that few can match. There is mutual respect and that "spring-loaded-to-help" thing. Nice of you to observe and comment! Thanks! And I love my DT300i, warts and all! Not too many warts..... I think the maxi-cruisers spent a load of dough and expect perfection, maybe. They don't get perfection so they snivel. Also, one has to adapt to the machine's limitations and exploit the stuff INSIDE the limitation envelope. I think one of the great things here is the great pool of tech-spertise that goes with the wanting to help another rider. You ain't gonna get that at the dealer!
Karl
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In the "THAT WAS WEIRD" department. Last week, For the first time since I was 19 or 20, I rode as a PASSENGER for about ten miles with my mother as the driver. I'm now 52. She's 85. She still drives regularly on her personal errands. But when of her kids and grandkids got their learner permit, she moved to the passenger side as long as one of us is in the car. She still drives pretty good. But man, that felt weird! I think she felt weird too. But I think she was glad to be able to haul her "baby boy" around one more time.
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Don't know why...but this reminds me of my first time driving.
Staying with my grandmother one summer.
I was 12.
She let me drive her big "wide-track" Pontiac for a mile or two on a country road.
She told me to stop under that tree down the road and then my brother could have his turn.
I drove up to the tree and jabbed the brakes...WOW!
Who knew about power brakes??!
I put my grandmother under the dash and my brother on the floor in the back seat.
No injuries and we all came up laughing hysterically.
A few weeks later she tossed me the car keys and told me to go fetch some eggs from the farm up the road.
Coming home I smashed the whole bag of eggs when I got air-born over a culvert.....my whole life passed before me (which...at 12 didn't take too long) as I waited for that Pontiac to come back to earth.
Grandma grounded me, thankfully, after that.
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Don't know why...but this reminds me of my first time driving.
Staying with my grandmother one summer.
I was 12.
She let me drive her big "wide-track" Pontiac for a mile or two on a country road.
She told me to stop under that tree down the road and then my brother could have his turn.
I drove up to the tree and jabbed the brakes...WOW!
Who knew about power brakes??!
I put my grandmother under the dash and my brother on the floor in the back seat.
No injuries and we all came up laughing hysterically.
A few weeks later she tossed me the car keys and told me to go fetch some eggs from the farm up the road.
Coming home I smashed the whole bag of eggs when I got air-born over a culvert.....my whole life passed before me (which...at 12 didn't take too long) as I waited for that Pontiac to come back to earth.
Grandma grounded me, thankfully, after that.
Stig
Thankfully i grew up in "the country " where my first driving experience was on a 1950 something Ford 800 tractor. My biggest "problem " was being able to yank off the clutch and popping a wheelie with the heavy plow on the back without Daddy seeing me. Lol.
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Update: My surgeon said that my wound site looked great. The only reason he hasn't fully released me is because if he does, my short term disability payments will immediately cease. So he told me to come back in January. But the BEST NEWS is the fact that I go in on Monday my initial prosthetic fitting. I'm not sure of the exact process. But my prosthetist (say that three times real fast.[emoji23][emoji23]) has taken a mold of my residual limb and has made a "check socket" . I'm going in Monday to make sure it fits correctly, and he can make modifications if required. Also, he can check my gait. From that, he'll make a real socket and I'll get the rest of my leg and foot. That entire process should only take a few days. To say I'm excited is an understatement to say the least.
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That's great news Forbes.
Thanks for keeping us updated.
Remember, the forum requires pix any time a member gets new "wheels", or it didn't happen! :-):-)
Have a good w/e.
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Great news Forbes! Thanks for the update. I cant help but thinking of Lee Majors when you get the prosthesis. (Insert sound here)
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Great news Forbes! Thanks for the update. I cant help but thinking of Lee Majors when you get the prosthesis. (Insert sound here)
Dunt,dunt, dunt, dunt,dunt, dunt,dunt, dunt... Well, that's the closest to how I'd imagine it being spelled.[emoji28]
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Lol! Yeah, I couldn't figure out how to spell it either!
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Lol! Yeah, I couldn't figure out how to spell it either!
I could ask my mother how to spell it. She's a retired Language arts teacher. But I suspect this will be one of the few words that may stump her. lol
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That's great news Forbes.
Thanks for keeping us updated.
Remember, the forum requires pix any time a member gets new "wheels", or it didn't happen! :-):-)
Have a good w/e.
Stig
Let me get some more practice uploading photos. So it won't take so long to show you my new "wheels".
One is an outing several weeks ago that I had mentioned. one is a picture of me on my first Sunday back in the pulpit.And the last is a picture of a recent outdoor church Saturday activity hosted by my church.
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Good job with the pictures Forbes!
Thanks for sharing!
You have a good day. ....
Stig
Wow....just saw a Burgman 650 3-wheel go by....almost silently.
Some big bucks in that outfit!
Guy needs some hi vis gear though. Black scooter and gear and it is still dark out here.
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Lookin' good, Forbes! Looks like your support group is with you 100%! Keep on keepin' on!
Karl
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Lookin' good, Forbes! Looks like your support group is with you 100%! Keep on keepin' on!
Karl
Thanks. And I hope that you all realize that you are also a part of my support group as well.
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Thanks for the photos, Forbes. Glad to see that your out and about, getting back to living life!!! Congrats and I wish you continued success in your recovery.
-Rich
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Good job with the pictures Forbes!
Thanks for sharing!
You have a good day. ....
Stig
Wow....just saw a Burgman 650 3-wheel go by....almost silently.
Some big bucks in that outfit!
Guy needs some hi vis gear though. Black scooter and gear and it is still dark out here.
Still not sure about riding again. But I kinda believe I will....eventually. If I can get my family to promise not to die with worry. Being the youngest of seven is a mixed blessing. The pecking order never changes. They used to stop me by brute force. Now it's by worrying by committee. 😂😂
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Good job on the pictures! One day I will figure out how to do it! Maybe. Its always good to hear from you.
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Well, guys, I have some bad news. Driving my DT300, to work this morning.(5:30am) Stopped at a red light, and BAM!!! Got rear ended. Slide on right side, all the way through the intersection. Thank goodness there was no one coming fro the other direction. Banged up my shoulder and knee, but other wise, ok. The DT, on the other hand, Wasn't as fortunate. Windshield and mirror both broken. Right side of scoot has a bad case of road rash and dashboard is all cracked. I'm grateful that I wasn't seriously injured, but sick to my stomach, knowing that I'm probably done riding for this season. The guy who hit , didn't even ask if I was ok, as I was laying in the road and he was checking to see how bad the damage on his truck was. What is wrong with people today????
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Well, guys, I have some bad news. Driving my DT300, to work this morning.(5:30am) Stopped at a red light, and BAM!!! Got rear ended. Slide on right side, all the way through the intersection. Thank goodness there was no one coming fro the other direction. Banged up my shoulder and knee, but other wise, ok. The DT, on the other hand, Wasn't as fortunate. Windshield and mirror both broken. Right side of scoot has a bad case of road rash and dashboard is all cracked. I'm grateful that I wasn't seriously injured, but sick to my stomach, knowing that I'm probably done riding for this season. The guy who hit , didn't even ask if I was ok, as I was laying in the road and he was checking to see how bad the damage on his truck was. What is wrong with people today????
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Thank God you're ok. It's so unfortunate that some people are so self centered as if the world exists just for them. It's as if it's your fault that you didn't stop them from hitting you. I was raised to be concerned about the other guy even if it was his fault. After all, people are what's most important. Hopefully the guy who hit you has insurance so you'll at least be financially made whole. I also pray that your injuries will heal quickly and completely. Too bad you don't live in Florida because even in north Florida, you can ride at least occasionally in the dead of winter. God bless you, and glad you're here to tell the story. Hopefully, the guy who hit you will get a clue as to what's important in life
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Pipster, glad to hear you’re okay. Sorry about your DT. Given how things played out that’s has to be the worst part. I agree with Forbes, I hope the guys has insurance, or was fined for causing the accident by the cops. When I was rear-ended a few years ago (nothing serious compared to yours) I had a surge of adrenaline a few hours later that gave me the shakes as my anger wore off and I began to realize how lucky I was, or more, what could have fully happened.
Don’t settle for nothing less than full repair to your DT, and any medical cost to yourself.
Forbes, great to see your pics. Keep us updated on the prosthetic. I still think you should do a book about your experience.
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Geez Pipster - glad you are not more seriously injured!
You were were stopped at a light and were hit from behind hard enough to be knocked through the intersection?
Do you have a top case - if not what kept your body from being up on his hood or into his wind screen?
Back injuries from the top case or his grill?
CVT & rear wheel caved in?
In any event...glad you're mostly OK...and that he has insurance.
We all know we don't have to make a mistake to get hurt on these things.
Darn.
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Thanks Forbes and Wolf. After going to hospital and getting checked out ( just some contusions and scraps, nothing broken) I went and saw the DT, in the tow lot. Both rear shocks are bent, air box and cvt belt housing are now pushed forward and twisted. Besides all the obvious damage that I had seen. I kept the DT, immaculate, even one of the cops commented on how nice it was. Didn't make me feel any better, though. Waiting on police report, hopefully by Friday. Already notified geico, but they said since I have a $500 deductible, I might want to wait and put it through the other guys insurance. Waiting and the unknown, is the worst part!!! As soon as I find out what's going to happen, I'll give an update. Thanks again, for your concern.
-Rich
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Stig, IDK. He must've tried to swerve at the last minute, because the initial impact was on the left, rear. It all happened so fast, didn't see it coming. He had been behind me for a few blocks and wasn't even driving that close to me ( I'm always checking my mirrors). That was the third traffic light we had. So he knew I was in front of him!! (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160831/529782ff8b65fbd428394eb3953675a3.jpg)this where the DT came to rest. I had been on the other side of crosswalk, going south, stopped just short of cars going north
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That is truly one sad sight!
Glad you're pretty much OK.
Your description is amazing.
He was back there all that time....and still hit you!
Texting?
Someone might check his cell phone usage.
People are hard to figure.
Did he offer any statements afterwards?
Good luck.
Stig
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That is truly one sad sight!
Glad you're pretty much OK.
Your description is amazing.
He was back there all that time....and still hit you!
Texting?
Someone might check his cell phone usage.
People are hard to figure.
Did he offer any statements afterwards?
Good luck.
Stig
I think that in states where texting while driving or cell phone usage is prohibited, they should be allowed to check for cell phone activity. Not necessarily the content of the text, but the fact that they texted. Then that should be an additional citation.
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Never said a word, he didn't even ask if I was OK!!! He must have seen the steam shooting out of my ears. I WAS PISSED!!!!!!! Had all my reflective hi-vis gear on too. People passing by were more concerned than he was. What ya gonna do? I never wish harm to anyone ( I was raised better than that) but you know what they say about Karma
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Never said a word, he didn't even ask if I was OK!!! He must have seen the steam shooting out of my ears. I WAS PISSED!!!!!!! Had all my reflective hi-vis gear on too. People passing by were more concerned than he was. What ya gonna do? I never wish harm to anyone ( I was raised better than that) but you know what they say about Karma
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That's the sad part. When I've been in an accident, I ask if the other person is ok,even if they are the ones who caused it. It's common courtesy. So it's unconscionable that this guy showed no concern for your well being. I guess common courtesy has gone the way of common sense. Neither is common anymore. But again, we're thankful that you're ok. Although it's aggravating and disheartening, your scooter can be replaced. You can't. I'm sorry about what happened. But I'm ELATED that you are around to tell the story. Be blessed. And I hope your injuries heal quickly. And I hope your scooter is repaired or replaced quickly enough to allow you to get at least a little more riding in this summer.
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Never said a word, he didn't even ask if I was OK!!! He must have seen the steam shooting out of my ears. I WAS PISSED!!!!!!! Had all my reflective hi-vis gear on too. People passing by were more concerned than he was. What ya gonna do? I never wish harm to anyone ( I was raised better than that) but you know what they say about Karma
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It really is sad that there are people like that but it seems to be more regular nowadays. Some times I go for a long walk and the things I see people doing whilst driving, parking, etc just make me shake my head in disbelief and then I remember these are the same people on the roads whilst I am riding.
Look at this clip http://imgur.com/gallery/SvKRxtN (http://imgur.com/gallery/SvKRxtN)
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Well, I had a setback in my quest to get my new leg. The check socket did not quite fit properly even after he modified it somewhat, so he has to get another one made. It may be about one mire week. Well at least the delay was not caused by my problems with my body. I compare it to taking your scooter to the dealer for installation of a special order part, thinking it's going to be fixed, and then finding that the part was defective and having to reorder and wait.lol
Yes, I'm disappointed. But patience strengthens character.
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Pipster, I am sorry to hear of your "accident." It is hard to believe this person lost awareness of you after following you for so long. I guess they forgot to bring their brains with them that day. I am appalled at how callous people are nowdays. Like most of you, I was NOT raised like that.
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Well, I had a setback in my quest to get my new leg. The check socket did not quite fit properly even after he modified it somewhat, so he has to get another one made. It may be about one mire week. Well at least the delay was not caused by my problems with my body. I compare it to taking your scooter to the dealer for installation of a special order part, thinking it's going to be fixed, and then finding that the part was defective and having to reorder and wait.lol
Yes, I'm disappointed. But patience strengthens character.
Hey Forbes. Is the check socket a temporary socket they fit you with until you get accustomed to your new prostetic? I am sorry for the setback. Is it also kind of like ordering that new part you desperately need, only to get an email later telling you it is on back-order? I hate it when that happens! I know you are chomping at the bit to get back in the game, and I hope and pray it is soon.
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Hey Forbes. Is the check socket a temporary socket they fit you with until you get accustomed to your new prostetic? I am sorry for the setback. Is it also kind of like ordering that new part you desperately need, only to get an email later telling you it is on back-order? I hate it when that happens! I know you are chomping at the bit to get back in the game, and I hope and pray it is soon.
That's exactly what it is. They make the socket from the mold of my stump. So it's custom made . And it's transparent so he can see the pressure points. But the leg is flesh, and the cast is rigid. So I suspect that my leg flexed at the bottom when the mold was made , and the check socket didn't take that into account. My prosthetist said that it's not unusual for the first socket to have to be re made, especially a thin person with skinny legs like myself . He didn't want excess pressure to be against the bony areas. The check socket is worn for a week, and minor modifications are made to it. Then a "permanent " socket is made from it. The residual leg will shrink fairly rapidly over a period of 8 months to a year as the healing completes, pressure and movement of walking on it moves the fluid from it, and the unused muscles atrophy. Eventually the socket can no longer be modified nor enough stump socks be worn to ensure a proper fit. That's when another socket will be made. And I'll be able to get a more cosmetically aesthetically pleasing leg if I desire. The second socket will last longer. And the leg , socket, and foot can be replaced by component as they wear or the fitting changes.
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It is said that the average lifelong cost of an amputation with the various leg components being replaced with the required fittings, and the various supplies, is 1.4 million dollars!! I'll surely get MY money's worth from my insurance. WOW! They say that I can become a part of various advocacy groups. And sometimes companies give away leg and foot components for us to test and recommend.
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Pip and Forbes, He tested you both and He will see ya through it. You both are doing well and you still have a purpose.
Karl
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Thanks for the info Forbes. Man, I didn't know what I didn't know! I am looking forward to you getting the new socket and prosthesis. Continue to keep us posted. Think about doing a blog or something. You have a gift with words and a story to tell, one far beyond your injury.
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Thank you all, for your words of encouragement and thoughts. Forbes, you are the Man!!! After all that you've been through, you never seem to give up or get discouraged. You have a positive attitude, that's AWESOME!!!
I'm sitting here, sulking, waiting to get the accident report, so I can get the scooter repaired and then I remember what your dealing with and get brought back to reality. It makes me realize that my situation isn't a big deal.
They say, the man upstairs, gives us tests. But I think he has you penciled in for the SAT's. Stay strong( as you have been through this whole ordeal) God Bless
Rich
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Thank you all, for your words of encouragement and thoughts. Forbes, you are the Man!!! After all that you've been through, you never seem to give up or get discouraged. You have a positive attitude, that's AWESOME!!!
I'm sitting here, sulking, waiting to get the accident report, so I can get the scooter repaired and then I remember what your dealing with and get brought back to reality. It makes me realize that my situation isn't a big deal.
They say, the man upstairs, gives us tests. But I think he has you penciled in for the SAT's. Stay strong( as you have been through this whole ordeal) God Bless
Rich
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Thanks, . You're HUMAN. And when we face our situations, they are a big deal to us no matter how much of an ordeal the next guy is going through. I laugh now. But in the first moments after my accident while I was pumped with adrenaline and BEFORE I saw my leg, I was thinking about my month old scooter and how I would get it home. If I had not been hurt, I would have been sitting beside the road huffing and puffing over a piece of plastic and metal. I would likely have been angry that my roadside service was taking too long. And I would have been complaining that I was going to get home too late to get enough rest before church. In other words, ALL problems seem major when WE are going through them. It's human nature. It was only seeing my partially severed leg that made me realize the scooter didn't matter. We humans are a mess. Lol. By the way, I hope you ride soon, and share your triumphs and joys. So that guy's insurance needs to hurry up!
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Be sure to post a picture of your new or newly repaired scooter.
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This is why I like discussing issues with you guys. People on this forum, have a much better understanding, on what's going on and the emotions and feelings that are felt. Many have been through similar situations.My main concern, is that insurance isn't going to give me anything close, to what it's going to cost to fix. Will it ride or feel the same??? That was my toy, my hobby!! Forbes, don't worry. As soon as it's fixed or replaced, I will definitely be showing it off. As soon as I find out what's going to happen, I will give updates.
Rich
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Pipster, dont forget to fight for a diminished value insurance adjustment on top of the cost of repairs. I hope it turns out well for you.
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Mr. Paul, any advice and or comments, are much appreciated. This is my first ( and hopefully last) 2 wheeled accident, so I have know idea what to expect. I don't even know where I would take it to get repaired.I just miss riding and probably won't ride for a while. With a car, you can always get a rental, with the scooter or even a motorcycle, you can't. That's what a lot of people, who don't ride, don't understand. Thanks for the advice
Rich
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Rich, I have been around a while and have had to deal with insurance issues. Fortunately not with my scooter. What you are looking for is to be made "whole" after all been concluded. That is the term and idea you should use in dealing with the insurance companies. Even though you were not at fault your insurance agent should give you guidance about how the process works. Even if your scooter is repaired back to the original condition, it now has less value than if it had never been crashed. The difference between your scooters value before the crash and the value after the crash is called "diminished value." The insurance company of the at-fault party should compensate you for this loss over and above the cost of repairs. They will most likely not volunteer this payment. You will have to advocate for it. Hope this helps and I am glad you were not seriously injured. I also understand what a bummer it is to be limited to just driving the cage. Keep your chin up!
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Mr. Paul, thanks again. I will definitely try to get the most that I can from the guy's insurance. I'm going to screen shot your post, so I don't lose it [emoji51] I'll study it before the adjuster gets here. Seriously, I really appreciate all the words of encouragement from my Kymco forum pals. You guys are awesome!!!
Rich
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Going back to work today, first day back since I got rear-ended last week. I hate staying home, especially now that the DT, isn't drivable.The weather here was absolutely gorgeous, this past weekend and I was really bummed out, that I couldn't ride.Should also get the police report, so I can finally get the insurance "ball" rolling.
-Rich
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Going back to work today, first day back since I got rear-ended last week. I hate staying home, especially now that the DT, isn't drivable.The weather here was absolutely gorgeous, this past weekend and I was really bummed out, that I couldn't ride.Should also get the police report, so I can finally get the insurance "ball" rolling.
-Rich
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That's great. I hope you can be made whole soon and possibly ride before the weather changes.
The power's been out at my mother's since late Thursday night due to the hurricane. But my sister's power came on Friday night , so we've been here with her since Saturday night. The streets are clear. And the weather was simply gorgeous yesterday.
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Well, another delay in getting my new leg. I was supposed to go today to try the newly remade check socket. But the aftermath of the hurricane threw the schedule off. The Tallahassee Orthopedic Clinic was closed on Thursday and Friday because of the hurricane and yesterday because of the holiday . My prosthetist says they're open today, but he has to catch up and get reorganized. So he'll call me as soon as that happens. I totally understand, but am chopping at the bit nonetheless. More patience is in order.
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I was able to sit down and grill some chicken , ribs, and burgers yesterday.
The alternator died on my Town Car as my sister was driving us home from church. Thankfully we made it home before the battery completely died.
Then my mother's grand Marquis started misfiring on the way home from a family friend/fellow minister's 50th wedding anniversary celebration. Again we made it home safely.
So my FIRST auto repair since my accident was on my OWN and my Mother's vehicles. Thankfully the alternator on my car and the #4 ignition coil on her car are very accessible. It's much harder to do on one leg but by learning against the car , it's very doable. I'm thankful that I didn't have to bother my brother or pay someone. And I STILL HAVE THE TOUCH! [emoji3]
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Forbes, sorry to hear about the power outage and car troubles. There has to be a picture of you in the dictionary for the word Patience!!! You are truly inspiring, no BS. I always look for your posts, they always seem to put everything in perspective. Hope all is well..
-Rich
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Forbes,
How do you spell your middle name ??
Is it Job?
Is there an E on the end....?
Stig
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Actually, I kinda enjoyed installing the alternator and coil. It made me feel good to fix something again. I just didn't enjoy paying 140.00 for my alternator (their lowest price but lifetime warranty unit), and 48.00 for my mother's ignition coil. Lol
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Good on you Mr. Forbes.
Me...as a former public employee...I sit down and have a coffee after successfully re-stringing the weedeater.
Stig
I'm joking........
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Good on you Mr. Forbes.
Me...as a former public employee...I sit down and have a coffee after successfully re-stringing the weedeater.
Stig
I'm joking........
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Actually, I kinda enjoyed installing the alternator and coil. It made me feel good to fix something again. I just didn't enjoy paying 140.00 for my alternator (their lowest price but lifetime warranty unit), and 48.00 for my mother's ignition coil. Lol
Get back some of the money you paid out by having your mom carry the tranny up to the attic. Just kidding! That's what my dad would say to my mom whenever he fixed her car. lol
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Get back some of the money you paid out by having your mom carry the tranny up to the attic. Just kidding! That's what my dad would say to my mom whenever he fixed her car. lol
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I think I've increased her utility bill by more than 48.00 . I had to lower her thermostat to 75. I couldn't sleep with it set at 80 where she normally keeps it. Lol
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Ah, Forbes, what those ortho guys won't do to get a day off, eh? You gonna be hard to keep up with, what with you fixin' stuff whilst standing on one leg! Like Public Works Stig, you makin' the rest of us look bad!
Karl
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Well, finally got the accident report yesterday. Of course, the the guy who hit me ,didn't accept any blame!! He stated, that as we were driving, the light was red, and then changed to green, and instead of proceeding, I stopped! I've been driving for over 30 years, and I know that: red means stop!!! And green means go!!! I guess I really didn't expect him to say he was at fault. But I didn't expect him to blame me either. Just another headache!!! I now have to wait for adjuster to call, and see when he is coming to check the damage. Hopefully won't be too long.
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What a @#%&*. Hopefully some karma will go his way. Really shows the character of someone when they lie like that.
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Bottom line is, he hit a vehicle from behind. The evidence is in your favor. Dont get discouraged man and do not yield an inch to this guy. I hope the best for you and please continue to keep us posted.
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Can someone check his cell phone records?
Texting when he hit you?
Doubt he hit you on purpose. ..unless has major anger issues.
This happened here a few yrs ago....angry guy killed three college students stopped at a light.....had video of him screaming at a fast food window moments before. Absolutely the best police detective work I've ever heard of. They saw the bag of food in his car. He hit going nearly 100mph. Claimed medical issues.
Prison now.
Stig
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Well, finally got the accident report yesterday. Of course, the the guy who hit me ,didn't accept any blame!! He stated, that as we were driving, the light was red, and then changed to green, and instead of proceeding, I stopped! I've been driving for over 30 years, and I know that: red means stop!!! And green means go!!! I guess I really didn't expect him to say he was at fault. But I didn't expect him to blame me either. Just another headache!!! I now have to wait for adjuster to call, and see when he is coming to check the damage. Hopefully won't be too long.
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It's IRRELEVANT. Even if his recollection were true, legally he would still be at fault. Even if you were absentmindedly sitting in the road, it would be his responsibility to stop before hitting you. I remember many years ago I was hit from behind, and the cop told the lady that even if I had slammed on brakes to avoid hitting a bug in the road, she would be at fault because the person in the rear is supposed to be alert and ready to stop to keep from hitting the vehicle in front.
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Right on, Forbes! GIB (Guy In Back) is ALWAYS automatically at fault if his hits yours. S'posed to leave enough room to take action.
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Yes, Forbes, that is true. I just wasn't expecting to see a statement like that. Especially, since I heard him to talking on his phone, after he hit me. I heard him say: the guy on the bike ( after all the DT does look like a motorcycle, a little) was stopped at the red light and I ran into him!!! I heard it clear as day. I know it wasn't my fault, just mad cause I can't ride, that's all
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Well. IT FIT!!! I got my preparatory prosthesis today! The main purpose for this prosthesis is to get me used to it and to verify proper fit. It doesn't contain strong components. Therefore, I still have to use the Walker for the time being. But that's ok. I can WALK with the walker instead of hopping. I can Stand on two legs. I can bend down and pick stuff up off the floor. And I know that I'm that much closer to my definitive or so called permanent prosthesis. To that I say PRAISE GOD!!
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GREAT NEWS FORBES! I rejoice with you! ;D ;D ;D
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We're celebrating with you !
Super news!
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Excellent news,Forbes!!!! I am truly happy for you.
-Rich
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Great new Forbes! So happy to hear. Sounds like it's only a matter of time before you can cut a rug, and dare I say click your heels together.
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Cut a rug, click my heels, and whatever else.lol. Yesterday I walked around the yard and walked back and forth through my mother's house numerous times. I think the prosthetist didn't trust me to obey his orders to only walk using the Walker because he informed me that the foot on the prosthesis is too small. Therefore, it's difficult to walk unassisted.(He was 100% right. Lol). I did take a couple of steps without assistance just to see if I could. And I used my mother's spare cane to walk to the kitchen and fix my own nighttime snack. . I think my sisters were as excited as I was. My mother simply said that she was glad that I didn't come home with a "long face" like I did last week when the leg didn't fit. I felt safe disobeying his orders for a little while because he told me that he had only seen one preparatory prosthesis crack --- HIS when he was fitted. He said it's a case of better safe than sorry.
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Great news, Forbes! Hoo-ray!
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So excited for you Forbes. Onwards and upwards! :)
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Hello everyone. Although this is only a "preparatory" prosthesis, and I'm still using a walker except for VERY short stints on a cane and even shorter stints walking across the room unaided, I can't describe the feeling of having TWO legs again. I think I walked at least 1/4 mile or more around my mother's and sister's yard on Friday. I drove with my sister to the furniture store Saturday and didn't have to hop to grab the walker or wait for her to get it out. Later, I walked across the field to my uncle's house. (Not home). So I walked to a cousin's house. (Not home either). But I was determined for SOMEONE to see me walking. So I looked further to another cousin's house and saw they were home. So I walked there just to here them say. "You're just like your daddy. You won't sit down for nothing! We visited until dark, and one of them brought me back home. Yes, it was somewhat slow walking compared to my usual pace. And yes I was using a walker. But man, that felt good!
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By the way, Saturday was the FIRST day I drove just to drive and kill time. Yes, the initial purpose was to go to the furniture store. But we ended up riding about 100 miles today. We stopped to the furniture store, to eat, and to browse the thrift store. I think as of now, my limit without getting out to stretch and walk is about 50 miles. But that's ok. That's how far my job is from my house. So it won't be a problem once I start back to work. Anyway, that's progress. God has been good to me.
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Good Sunday morning Pastor.
Thankyou for keeping us in the family loop.
We're pretty much always home when you want to visit.
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Same here,Forbes. If you are ever, in NYC/NJ area. You are more than welcome
Rich
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Nothing's better than a story of hope and recovery. Thanks for the updates, and what I'll call your triumphs.
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Thanks for the update Forbes. I believe in a very small way, we are all going through this with you. It is so encouraging to hear how well you are doing my friend. I am looking forward to the day you can get back to work.
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Ok, I'm officially pissed off. Today marks 2 weeks, since I had my accident. The insurance company still has not come to look at the damage. So I'm still in the dark, about what exactly is going to happen. Either fix it or total it? Forbes, I need some of your wisdom and words of encouragement... Please!!!
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Ok, I'm officially pissed off. Today marks 2 weeks, since I had my accident. The insurance company still has not come to look at the damage. So I'm still in the dark, about what exactly is going to happen. Either fix it or total it? Forbes, I need some of your wisdom and words of encouragement... Please!!!
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Two weeks is excessive by any standards. Incidentally, Who is his insurance company ? At any rate, I'd call that company until they recognize my voice by heart. I'd make sure to always talk to a live person. Then I'd press them until they give me a date CERTAIN. I wo no longer accept "soon" as an answer. If I can't get anywhere, I'd threaten to report them to whoever regulates insurance companies in your state, and I'd follow through on the threat. I've never had to wait more than a week for an inspection. And that was when agents were tied up with a bunch of flood claims in the area. Don't get nasty. But be FIRM. Make a "pest" of yourself until they do something. But be a polite pest.
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Having said all of that, don't let this foolishness cause you to lose your peace.Be persistent. But don't let the frustration spill over into other areas of your life or onto other people. Enjoy EVERYTHING ELSE in your life. Remember, as aggravating as it is, it's only a portion of your life.
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Forbes, I knew that I could count on you. Thanks for taking time out , to give me some advice. I know it's not the end of the world, I finally got a hold of someone, and they promised me that the adjuster would be in contact with me this evening. I wasn't nasty, just persistent. I'll keep you updated
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Well, the insurance adjuster finally showed up today!!!! He said the DT300 is most likely a total loss! Now they have to determine what the value is. Not what I really wanted to hear. I don't even want to think about how much $ I'm probably going to lose. So I guess I'll just have to wait some more...
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Well, the insurance adjuster finally showed up today!!!! He said the DT300 is most likely a total loss! Now they have to determine what the value is. Not what I really wanted to hear. I don't even want to think about how much $ I'm probably going to lose. So I guess I'll just have to wait some more...
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You cant let "them" determine what the value of the scooter is. It would be a good idea for you to do a little homework and start searching the market for like scooters and the true retail value of them. Print them out. When and if they give a value less than what it would cost you to replace what you had, dispute it! There are procedures to do it. Most times it costs them more to settle a dispute than to pay a reasonable claim amount. I would encourage you not to accept less than what would make you whole in this situation. You have to be a strong advocate for yourself. Trust me, no one else will. Be polite but be firm. Sorry if I am coming off a bit strong but I am trying to be helpful. I hope the best for you. :)
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You cant let "them" determine what the value of the scooter is. It would be a good idea for you to do a little homework and start searching the market for like scooters and the true retail value of them. Print them out. When and if they give a value less than what it would cost you to replace what you had, dispute it! There are procedures to do it. Most times it costs them more to settle a dispute than to pay a reasonable claim amount. I would encourage you not to accept less than what would make you whole in this situation. You have to be a strong advocate for yourself. Trust me, no one else will. Be polite but be firm. Sorry if I am coming off a bit strong but I am trying to be helpful. I hope the best for you. :)
Yes, be polite but firm. But also find out what the law is in your state. Some states allow fair market value. But others allow the insurance to pay "actual cash value ". If it's actual cash value, your options may be limited because they simply look it up in a book such as Kelly's blue book. Then there's a formula for mileage and condition. I'm not fully certain about scooters, but in the case of cars you can sometimes get a little extra if you just purchased NEW matching tires, or did upgrades that increase the value of the vehicle. Sometimes there are several official sources to determine the value. You can demand they tell you which source they used , then check behind them. Then check the other available sources and compare them as well and try to get them to use the one that has the highest value. However, if you live in a state that requires them to pay fair market value, you are usually in a better bargaining position because they must be able to PROVE that there is a vehicle in YOUR AREA in the same or better condition as yours with similar or lower mileage that can be purchased for what they are offering you.
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Thanks Mr. Paul and Forbes, for your advice. I am trying to research my make and model, but the only bad thing is, there's just not many of them for sale, other than brand new. I am going to try my best, to get the highest pay out that I can.He did mention something about getting $500 less then the value, because they don't take the scooter from me, and let me keep it. I will also fight that, I don't think I should have to pay anything, since he also told me that , they were accepting full responsibility for the accident. The guy was actually pretty nice. He told me to negotiate with them, if I don't agree with whatever figure they come up with . So, hopefully by early next week, I should be ready to argue my case. Hope for the best!!!!
Rich
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Thanks Mr. Paul and Forbes, for your advice. I am trying to research my make and model, but the only bad thing is, there's just not many of them for sale, other than brand new. I am going to try my best, to get the highest pay out that I can.He did mention something about getting $500 less then the value, because they don't take the scooter from me, and let me keep it. I will also fight that, I don't think I should have to pay anything, since he also told me that , they were accepting full responsibility for the accident. The guy was actually pretty nice. He told me to negotiate with them, if I don't agree with whatever figure they come up with . So, hopefully by early next week, I should be ready to argue my case. Hope for the best!!!!
Rich
The offer they made is typical when a vehicle is totalled. It's worth considering if you have a particular attachment to it and can either fix it yourself or have a friend that can fix it for significantly less than the money they are giving you AND will still have a SAFE vehicle in states that allow it. Also, it may be worth considering if you want to keep it as a parts scooter. Keep in mind that you will receive a junk or salvage title which renders it nearly worthless if you resell it later.
if you let them keep the scooter (likely the best option) they will give you the full value because they are purchasing it from you. The $500 they will deduct if you choose to keep it is actually the previous value minus the value AFTER the wreck. Technically, it's you buying the wrecked scooter back from them . It's what they estimate that they will get for it when they try to auction it to a junkyard.
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Thanks for the explanation, Forbes. They don't explain that to you. He told me that they wouldn't even want it , so letting them take it to get more money, wasn't even an option . I will fight them on the $500, you can bet on that.Now it's a waiting game... Tick Tick
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The insurance companies pay incentives to the inspector to pay YOU less. If they were sure that they could get more than 500 at a salvage auction, then he likely would not even have suggested that you buy it from them. You would have had to ask them about it. But since they are not sure what it will bring at auction, they'd rather get the "sure money" from you. So unless you want it for some reason, make them pay you the FULL AMOUNT and let them have it.
The guy who looked at the scooter may be a nice guy. But remember that he is working on behalf of the insurance company. By the way, who is the insurance company? Some have a reputation of trying to short change people.
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Thanks Mr. Paul and Forbes, for your advice. I am trying to research my make and model, but the only bad thing is, there's just not many of them for sale, other than brand new. I am going to try my best, to get the highest pay out that I can.He did mention something about getting $500 less then the value, because they don't take the scooter from me, and let me keep it. I will also fight that, I don't think I should have to pay anything, since he also told me that , they were accepting full responsibility for the accident. The guy was actually pretty nice. He told me to negotiate with them, if I don't agree with whatever figure they come up with . So, hopefully by early next week, I should be ready to argue my case. Hope for the best!!!!
Rich
http://claz.org/classifieds?q=Kymco+downtown&p=2 (http://claz.org/classifieds?q=Kymco+downtown&p=2)
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Forbes, Plymouth Rock, is the insurance company. I really don't know much about them. I have Geico. I guess I could always go through my insurance, if I come to an impasse with Plymouth Rock
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Forbes, Plymouth Rock, is the insurance company. I really don't know much about them. I have Geico. I guess I could always go through my insurance, if I come to an impasse with Plymouth Rock
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Use your own only as a VERY LAST resort. Besides, you have a deductible if you use your own, and they still use the same formula for determining value. Plymouth Rock is a reputable company. Persistence and PATIENCE are the keys. Just don't sign anything until you are reasonably satisfied. You may not get what you want. But make sure you get what's fair.
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Yes, Forbes, I would only go thru mine as a last resort. My concern is, I paid around $4300, w/ tax,title and fees about 10 months ago. Had 400 miles and not a scratch on it!! I added a new Givi windscreen and new front and rear Metzeler tires.So now I'm up to about $4800. I know that it depreciates and I'm not going to get that. I just don't want them to say, here's $2000. No way I could find one, in the shape and low miles, like mine. For that price.I would probably have to get a 2016 or 2015 left over and pay close to $6000. I just get so upset , that I'm stuck in limbo, going to lose money, have to decide if I want to fix it or get something different and this "joker" just got to drive away, like nothing happened.
Enough about me, how are you doing? I hope everything is going well with the prosthesis and all. I do appreciate all your feedback. Your a good man,Forbes
Rich
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Yes, Forbes, I would only go thru mine as a last resort. My concern is, I paid around $4300, w/ tax,title and fees about 10 months ago. Had 400 miles and not a scratch on it!! I added a new Givi windscreen and new front and rear Metzeler tires.So now I'm up to about $4800. I know that it depreciates and I'm not going to get that. I just don't want them to say, here's $2000. No way I could find one, in the shape and low miles, like mine. For that price.I would probably have to get a 2016 or 2015 left over and pay close to $6000. I just get so upset , that I'm stuck in limbo, going to lose money, have to decide if I want to fix it or get something different and this "joker" just got to drive away, like nothing happened.
Enough about me, how are you doing? I hope everything is going well with the prosthesis and all. I do appreciate all your feedback. Your a good man,Forbes
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I'm doing well. Thank you. There was another delay in getting my "real" prosthesis. That's somewhat frustrating. But I'm so thankful to even have the test leg because even though I have to use the Walker if I'm going to walk more than a few yards, the amount of added independence as opposed to having to hop around on one leg is like night and day! I can go grocery shopping now without having to have my nephew accompany me. I can get a bowl of ice cream for myself, and also get a bowl for my mother. Lord willing, I'll soon be returning to my own house.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
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I'm doing well. Thank you. There was another delay in getting my "real" prosthesis. That's somewhat frustrating. But I'm so thankful to even have the test leg because even though I have to use the Walker if I'm going to walk more than a few yards, the amount of added independence as opposed to having to hop around on one leg is like night and day! I can go grocery shopping now without having to have my nephew accompany me. I can get a bowl of ice cream for myself, and also get a bowl for my mother. Lord willing, I'll soon be returning to my own house.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
By the way, the guy who hit you is not completely getting away. His insurance premiums will increase.
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Excellent, I'm so happy that you are starting to get your independence back!!! You have made great progress, in the 2 and 1/2 months, since your accident. Your spirit and attitude have been INCREDIBLE!!!!
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Just went to see what I would Really need, to get the DT, back in the road.(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160918/2748b27204a110a654ede62882201cbd.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160918/b54b54c8b171952ae5d1c93593c147e0.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160918/e64ba92cb83334a5c053b41e88fc8ba9.jpg)
The rest of the damage is mostly cosmetic. Checked belt and pulleys and rear rim and tire. They seem ok.Now I will see if I can get these parts, and how much they would be
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Dont forget to check the frame for alignment Rich. Man, that was quite a hit you took!
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Yea, Mr.Paul, he hit me pretty good. My back and shoulder are still not happy yet. I know it could've been a lot worse. But I'm still feeling it, and it's going on 3 weeks. I will put the scoot on the lift and definitely check the frame .
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I am glad you came out of it without serious injury Rich. Keep your chin up and I hope you are back on two wheels very soon!
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Just went to see what I would Really need, to get the DT, back in the road.(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160918/2748b27204a110a654ede62882201cbd.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160918/b54b54c8b171952ae5d1c93593c147e0.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160918/e64ba92cb83334a5c053b41e88fc8ba9.jpg)
The rest of the damage is mostly cosmetic. Checked belt and pulleys and rear rim and tire. They seem ok.Now I will see if I can get these parts, and how much they would be
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Yes, DEFINITELY check very closely because what you find will determine whether to keep it and attempt to repair it yourself, or to just take ALL of the money and "run". Also, I would take one more visit to the doctor just for certainty sake. While it's an inconvenience to take a loss on the bike , it's utterly tragic to take a loss on your health. If , God forbid, there is some hidden damage in your back or elsewhere that they missed on the initial examination, many states have STRICT limitations on the time allowed to claim it. Also, the insurance company often tries to rush you into signing a medical settlement, so they can close the case and prevent from paying previously unknown damage.
I don't believe in making bogus claims. But I also don't believe in getting less than what will make you physically whole. Yes, it's good to try to "tough it out". But make certain you are only toughing out things that will correct themselves on their own and not potentially serious problems.
You can get another bike even if you have to pay more than you'd like. But you can't get another YOU. So don't neglect yourself while dealing with that bike. Like the bike. But LOVE and take care of yourself.
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Thats some wise advice Darryl!
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Well, since I have no scooter questions, I'll just continue to share my recovery journey.
First, the "bad" news. I'm still waiting on my "permanent " prosthesis. I admit that It's somewhat frustrating since I'm able to walk without the Walker but am concerned about messing up the temporary leg.
Next, the good news. The delay is due to the equipment, manufacturer, and shipping time. It's NOT due to a problem with MY BODY. I can live with that.. (It's Not unlike getting some KYMCO parts. Lol)
Next, I am able to walk beyond the capability of the temporary leg because I actually had to slow down to make sure I didn't stress it with the higher impact of walking fast.
On Wednesday, I went into town and had a little time to kill. So I went to our newest and busiest city park and decided to walk there because it has a sidewalk and it has several short cuts if I got into trouble and was unable to complete the walk.
I chose NOT to use my Walker (don't tell my prosthetist. [emoji850]). But I wasn't foolhardy. I did take ONE crutch as insurance. I was able to walk the ENTIRE ONE MILE around the park without stopping! I only used the crutch on hills due to the fact that I didn't want to overstress the prosthesis. I was fine. Total time? A little less than 1/2 HOUR! --- no soreness. No extra tiredness!
And to top it off, I then went to Wednesday night prayer service! I had the leg on from 11:00 AM to 10:00 PM!
THANKS FOR "LISTENING " to me go on and on. But I'm so thankful for the progress God has enabled me to make in the less than 3 months since July 3.
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Finally spoke to the total loss division, of the insurance company. Fair market value in my area for my 2012 Downtown 300 is $3725.00. Minus $375, that they would deduct,and let me keep it. $3350, is what I would get, plus they have a company that would buy it from me for the $375. Now I don't know if I want to buy a new Dt 300 and fix up the old one,( frame is good,it's mostly cosmetic) or sell it for parts. Also I like the new 2016 Xciting 500 and the Honda CTX700. Decisions, decisions!! Any thoughts or opinions,would be appreciated. I trust you folks.
Rich
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Man that is great news you can get out on the temporary prosthesis Forbes. I am looking forward to you getting the "real" prosthesis. I know it is frustrating waiting to get that new part. Did they give you a tracking number? ;D
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Finally spoke to the total loss division, of the insurance company. Fair market value in my area for my 2012 Downtown 300 is $3725.00. Minus $375, that they would deduct,and let me keep it. $3350, is what I would get, plus they have a company that would buy it from me for the $375. Now I don't know if I want to buy a new Dt 300 and fix up the old one,( frame is good,it's mostly cosmetic) oru sell it for parts. Also I like the new 2016 Xciting 500 and the Honda CTX700. Decisions, decisions!! Any thoughts or opinions,would be appreciated. I trust you folks.
Rich
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With riding season coming to a close soon..should be several good new or lightly used two wheels showing on the market.
Lightly used private sale gets you past dealer fees...and Kymco 2 yr warranties are fully transferable.
Are you only looking at automatics? That $$ could buy several nearly new 300 range motorcycles. Shifting two wheelers are much cheaper than scooters.
Good luck.
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Finally spoke to the total loss division, of the insurance company. Fair market value in my area for my 2012 Downtown 300 is $3725.00. Minus $375, that they would deduct,and let me keep it. $3350, is what I would get, plus they have a company that would buy it from me for the $375. Now I don't know if I want to buy a new Dt 300 and fix up the old one,( frame is good,it's mostly cosmetic) or sell it for parts. Also I like the new 2016 Xciting 500 and the Honda CTX700. Decisions, decisions!! Any thoughts or opinions,would be appreciated. I trust you folks.
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It's just me. But Unless you just want to tinker with it, I'd take the money and run. Just put this scooter behind you , get another and RIDE. i had A 2009 Xciting 250. The only reason I got rid of it was because I regularly drove it very near its limits for many miles daily. If it had been a 500, I would never have gotten rid of it. Some of the Xciting 500's have had cold start issues, but those seemed to be pre-2012 models.
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Man that is great news you can get out on the temporary prosthesis Forbes. I am looking forward to you getting the "real" prosthesis. I know it is frustrating waiting to get that new part. Did they give you a tracking number? ;D
No tracking number. But at least it's not on backorder. 😅. But it's a custom made part. I just hope they don't tell me that they lost my pattern . Lol.
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Thanks for the feedback, guys. I may keep the Dt, because I do like to tinker, and stay busy. I am done with work already at 9:00 am, so I definitely need things to keep myself busy. I will probably get something new and keep the Dt as a spare. You can never have enough toys, right?
Rich
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By the way, Forbes, I'm happy to hear about your progress. Keeping my fingers crossed and hope you get your permanent prosthetic soon.
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Thanks for the feedback, guys. I may keep the Dt, because I do like to tinker, and stay busy. I am done with work already at 9:00 am, so I definitely need things to keep myself busy. I will probably get something new and keep the Dt as a spare. You can never have enough toys, right?
Rich
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True. Toys are great!
Also, thanks for the well wishes. It means a lot to me.
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Xc500 without a doubt!
Plus a dt300. Bonus.
Heaven on earth for sure.
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xsel, that's what I've been telling the boss ( wife) [emoji6]. She will come around. I usually get what I want. Lol
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xsel, that's what I've been telling the boss ( wife) [emoji6]. She will come around. I usually get what I want. Lol
Rich
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When you approach "the boss" tell her the 500 is a heavier, safer scooter that can go fast enough to really get you out of trouble if you need to. You see, its not about getting new toys, its about being SAFER. ;) ;) ;)
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Hey, that's a really good way of putting it!!! Thanks, I will definitely use that. I just love this forum
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Its worked for me Rich. Glad your here man.
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Forbes,
When I trained at Brooke Army Medical Center, TX, I watched the prosthetic shops build extremeties and facial items for Vietnam casualties. Brooke was also the burn center for all the sevice branches at that time. Fascinating work....and their work was undertaken with such skill and care.
The patience required by these young casualties semed to be one of the hardest parts of the rehab process.
I hope you get your new help item soonest...and that your body will be able to work well with it.
Please continue to keep us posted.
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When you approach "the boss" tell her the 500 is a heavier, safer scooter that can go fast enough to really get you out of trouble if you need to. You see, its not about getting new toys, its about being SAFER. ;) ;) ;)
No statistics on how many accidents did NOT happen due to more power, weight and speed --- but plenty happened because of those three things.
IMHO - a 170cc SYM is the roof for the power needed to be safer in traffic.
Bigger than that. ..you're buying for other reasons.
Does not seem that buying bigger HP autos very often gets the owner into physical trouble....different story on two wheels.
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Well, you all only have to convince your respective spouses. If I decide to ride again, I'll have to convince a mother, 3 brothers, 3 sisters, a few of my nephews, and all 4 of my nieces. Mother would reluctantly come around, but my oldest sister and oldest brother would be the toughest sell. My accident shook my oldest brother to the core of his being. I've never seen this side of him. It's GREAT to be loved by my family. They've been simply great through all of this. I don't know how I could have remained so upbeat and positive without them. Other than God, they've been the greatest supporters possible. ----But that love comes with a price. Lol.
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Glad to hear that progress, Forbes! A mile of walking is fantastic, and probably a real joy considering what could have been. God is keeping you in his care, that's for sure. Hopefully the permanent leg will arrive shortly, and you can get on to the next stage of this "adventure". All the best!
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No statistics on how many accidents did NOT happen due to more power, weight and speed --- but plenty happened because of those three things.
IMHO - a 170cc SYM is the roof for the power needed to be safer in traffic.
Bigger than that. ..you're buying for other reasons.
Does not seem that buying bigger HP autos very often gets the owner into physical trouble....different story on two wheels.
Stig
I was just joking Stig. ;) ;) ;)
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Glad to hear that progress, Forbes! A mile of walking is fantastic, and probably a real joy considering what could have been. God is keeping you in his care, that's for sure. Hopefully the permanent leg will arrive shortly, and you can get on to the next stage of this "adventure". All the best!
That's so true. Walking at all is a blessing. And being able to walk a mile in a reasonable amount of time is simply an added blessing.
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Well, I got the second temporary leg Friday afternoon. I understand the logic of taking this much time on the front end. It's to make sure that the "permanent " leg will last for at least 8 months because that's the quickest that insurance will pay for the next one without jumping through MAJOR hoops. It will need several adjustments during this time. And eventually my residual limb will shrink so much until the first leg can no longer be adjusted and modified for a comfortable fit. The insurance company will want the second "permanent " leg to last around TWO years. So patience is a must. And I'd rather have the delays and troubles now on the front end than later when the insurance company will start tripping. I'm having enough trouble with them paying the hospital bills.
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Finally spoke to the total loss division, of the insurance company. Fair market value in my area for my 2012 Downtown 300 is $3725.00. Minus $375, that they would deduct,and let me keep it. $3350, is what I would get, plus they have a company that would buy it from me for the $375. Now I don't know if I want to buy a new Dt 300 and fix up the old one,( frame is good,it's mostly cosmetic) or sell it for parts. Also I like the new 2016 Xciting 500 and the Honda CTX700. Decisions, decisions!! Any thoughts or opinions,would be appreciated. I trust you folks.
Rich
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Well Rich, I just checked my health insurance claims page and noticed that they still haven't paid either hospital's claims. I've also noticed that there are SEVERAL claims where they are trying to charge me out of network charges and co pays even though I was in an emergency situation and was in no position to decide which ambulance would pick me up from the median of the highway. Perhaps I should have overlooked the bleeding, the mangled leg, and the bone sticking out and asked the 911 operator if the local ambulance company accepted Cigna insurance. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Wow, Forbes, that's terrible!! In a situation, like yours, you needed the closest emergency care, so you wouldn't bleed to death. That out of network BS, should be waived. I pray that everything works out for you. God knows ( and so do your forum pals) that you've been through ENOUGH!!! These insurance companies are unbelievable.They don't see the person, just $$$
Rich
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Wow, Forbes, that's terrible!! In a situation, like yours, you needed the closest emergency care, so you wouldn't bleed to death. That out of network BS, should be waived. I pray that everything works out for you. God knows ( and so do your forum pals) that you've been through ENOUGH!!! These insurance companies are unbelievable.They don't see the person, just $$$
Rich
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That's just the tip of the iceberg. It's the same with the anesthesiologist who was on duty that night, he was out of network as well. And the hospital is fighting them because they are trying to deny the tests performed in the ER, and the surgery performed that night because we didn't go through the pre approval process. The hospital will most likely get them to pay most of the those charges. But the anesthesiologist may possibly be charged at the OUT Of network price. The out of network out of pocket limits are higher than the in network limits. I know I'll end up paying my in network out of pocket limits. I expected that. But I really had not expected to have to pay ANY out of network co pays because I didn't purposely choose any out of network doctors , support personnel , or ambulances. But the hospital used the staff that was on duty that night as well as over the weekend. The hospital in Tallahassee hasn't been paid either. But the problem is somewhat less since the procedures there were not emergency procedures. But the insurance is trying to find loopholes there too. I guess they don't want to pay the $87,000 bill at the first hospital or the $83,000 at the second hospital. --- But the hospitals better get it from them because I AIN'T GOT IT. Lol
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Glad you finally got the more permanent prosthesis Forbes! Your explanation of the process is very informative and in a fiscal way, it makes sense. I believe the insurance companies try to stretch the claims process out as much as possible in hopes that the parties involved will just give up and pay, then and only then will they do what they should have in the beginning!
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Glad you finally got the more permanent prosthesis Forbes! Your explanation of the process is very informative and in a fiscal way, it makes sense. I believe the insurance companies try to stretch the claims process out as much as possible in hopes that the parties involved will just give up and pay, then and only then will they do what they should have in the beginning!
Actually it's not the more permanent one yet. It's actually the second temporary one. I'm to wear it for one week. Hopefully it will be just right, then I will get the "permanent" one based on it. So although I still have one more step, hopefully it is just ONE more step. Lol
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Sorry Forbes, my bad. As far as I can tell, your healing is complete, just your circumstances haven't caught up with you yet! Your body and hardware will catch up soon. God bless you man.
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Sorry Forbes, my bad. As far as I can tell, your healing is complete, just your circumstances haven't caught up with you yet! Your body and hardware will catch up soon. God bless you man.
You said a mouthful right there! 👏🏽👏🏽🙌🏾🙌🏾👍🏾👍🏾
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Hey guys, does anyone happen to know what part # for the rear fender mud guard is? The one that the air filter box bolts to.Ive look at the KymcoUSA and Kymcopartsmonster diagrams, and I don't see it. Thanks
Rich
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Hey guys, does anyone happen to know what part # for the rear fender mud guard is? The one that the air filter box bolts to.Ive look at the KymcoUSA and Kymcopartsmonster diagrams, and I don't see it. Thanks
Rich
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Hey Rich. You should be able to find it here;
http://www.powersportswarehouse.com/p/Victory#%2fKymco_USA%2fSK60AH_DOWNTOWN_300i%2fF17_-_Light_Tail%2f05%7c%7e05%7c%7e0005%2f05%7c%7e05%7c%7e0051 (http://www.powersportswarehouse.com/p/Victory#%2fKymco_USA%2fSK60AH_DOWNTOWN_300i%2fF17_-_Light_Tail%2f05%7c%7e05%7c%7e0005%2f05%7c%7e05%7c%7e0051)
May consider in the future posting this in the technical/how to forum. Would get better results there and keep the posts clean. Hope that helps you man. Best of luck!
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Get well soon friend, from a UK non scooter rider. Have an old Kymco Sector 125, rare now.
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Mr. Paul, what are you trying to say? I always keep it clean [emoji12].. Thanks for the reply, I will check it out
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Ordered $297 worth of parts from Kymco parts monsters. Should be able to get the DT, back on the road
Rich
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Well, this is in the department of Being "COLD BUSTED" . My temporary prosthesis is not really strong. So As many of you know, one of the requirements of wearing my temporary prosthesis is that I use my Walker for most walking unless I'm no more than a few steps away from it. Well, since it SEEMS to be stronger than my prosthetist led me to believe, ive been occasionally ignoring that advice when in places were I know I can get help if I get into trouble.
So on Thursday my mother didn't feel like driving and asked me to drive her on a couple of errands. On the way back home, we stopped by the grocery store. Mother forgot to renew her handicap sticker. So As I was walking across the parking lot, who did I hear calling my name? MY PROSTHETIST! Oops! [emoji9][emoji28]
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I had to go see him THE NEXT DAY because he FINALLY ordered my "permanent " prosthesis. Lord willing it will arrive in 7-10 days!!!!
By the way, he told me that he anticipated that I would become "hard headed as I gained more skill and confidence. That's why he wrapped that awful looking reinforcement gauge around the bottom of it. [emoji23][emoji23]. Anyway, I'm just VERY THANKFUL that I'm headed towards the day that I can return to work and also be able to walk confidently without worrying about hearing a dreaded crack in the prosthetic socket.
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Good news bad news department: Good news: even with this temporary prosthesis, I have determined that my skill level exceeds the capability of my current prosthetic foot. -- To God be the Glory for that.
Bad news: at this point, my insurance will only pay for the most basic foot until I receive my 2nd "permanent " prosthesis in 8-12 months. The "upgraded" foot will allow me to walk faster and will absorb more shock, and will allow me to put less stress on my good knee which will protect it from the inherent higher risk of arthritis. Since the foot can be transferred to the replacement leg, it makes no sense no sense for them to not pay for it. But they make the rules. So I'll have to pay it out of pocket if I want it before then. The estimated cost ? Over $4,000!
Good news: between family and donations that I have received from friends (including some of you), and Christian family, I think I'll be able to handle it. It will be a stretch. But it's within my reach. So. A big THANK YOU to those who helped financially and a BIG THANK YOU for YOU who have and are still sending your well wishes and prayers. I appreciate you ALL!
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Thank you for the update!
Just a maybe crazy thought....
I injured my foot pretty bad a few weeks ago when i stepped in a hole....tore stuff in foot.
Podiatrist tried to fit me with a tall brace...had fit issues for my 14 foot plus his wife could not tell me how much it would cost, but guessed only a few hundred $.
I had them take the boot off....went home and bought the same new boot on line for $39 w/2 day shipping.Delivered on a Sunday!
Might your $4000 item be found on line...?
**I discovered these boots were selling for a song when we bought one for my daughter's sports injury...paid big $ for it. Then I went to sell it and saw how cheap they were selling on line.
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Hey, Forbes! You are an inspiration, still! Do you know how tall Stig would be if he dint have so much bent over for feet? At least a "foot" taller!
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Forbes, sorry to hear about the insurance company. They make the rules,but let's be honest, they suck!!!! Glad to see your post, haven't seen one lately, I was starting to worry. Stay strong and God bless
Rich
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Because they are a business, and not really there to always help, the insurance companies want to keep as much of the money you pay then in the bank for as long as possible -- and make money on the interest. I hope Stig's suggestion works, and you can fined a cheeper foot online somewhere, or from a third party.
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Hey, Forbes! You are an inspiration, still! Do you know how tall Stig would be if he dint have so much bent over for feet? At least a "foot" taller!
Karl
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Thank you for the update!
Just a maybe crazy thought....
I injured my foot pretty bad a few weeks ago when i stepped in a hole....tore stuff in foot.
Podiatrist tried to fit me with a tall brace...had fit issues for my 14 foot plus his wife could not tell me how much it would cost, but guessed only a few hundred $.
I had them take the boot off....went home and bought the same new boot on line for $39 w/2 day shipping.Delivered on a Sunday!
Might your $4000 item be found on line...?
**I discovered these boots were selling for a song when we bought one for my daughter's sports injury...paid big $ for it. Then I went to sell it and saw how cheap they were selling on line.
Stig
My prosthetist actually suggested that. He stated that the foot is an "off the shelf" part that people sometimes sellon ebay when they upgrade or when the original wearer is deceased. They don't sell them new directly to the consumer. We have to buy them through the prosthetist.
Another possibility he floated is the possibility of he himself having one that's my size. Since he's an amputee , (same leg as mine) the salesmen are always giving him trial FEET to try, so he could reccommend to his patients he has over 50! He'll never get around to trying all of them. So He may be willing to let me be a guinea pig. He pretty much knows which type I would need for my goals.
I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Hello guys, I received the new parts from KYMCOPARTSMONSTER,yesterday. 1 week from order to delivery. Not bad!!! I have a little problem: I'm not sure if I hooked up the hoses correctly. I don't have any nipples left to hook the "snot" tube up.Des anyone have any pictures of what should go where? I would greatly appreciate it, thanks.
Rich
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I believe the snot tube hooks onto the airbox.
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Yea, I figured . I usually take a picture, before dismantling, but the air box and hoses were ripped off, when I got hit. So I put the hoses back where I thought they went, but either I'm missing a fitting or I hooked them up wrong. It sounds and runs fine. I will take the seat tub out tomorrow and trace everything down
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Try going to Kymcoparts Monster and look at the parts diagrams. Schematics are your friend. ;)
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Mr. Paul, I got it figured out. The old set up had a "T" connector, on one of fittings. The new air box only had a single one. So I used the original set up and was able to run the hoses ( tubes) the way they came from the factory. All is well
Rich
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Mr Forbes. ..
Did you get through this latest big storm OK?
Concerned about you Florida guys again...
Regards
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Yea Forbes, how did you make out? I hope everything is ok, Lord knows that you have been through enough already!!
Rich
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We were unaffected by the storm in the Tallahassee area. We are around 150 miles from the Atlantic coast. In fact, much of Jacksonville and other east coast came to Tallahassee to evacuate.
I do wonder how AMAC is doing because I think he's from the Jacksonville
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Since the rule is "if there aren't any pictures, it didn't happen." I decided to furnish proof. [emoji3]
This is the first picture I've taken since I received my prosthetic leg. It's still the temporary leg. But I'm STANDING ON MY OWN TWO FEET. I decided to allow my sister and my cousin to join me. Lol.(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161009/d512fbf8a1ed79679df16c11884db807.jpg)
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Good morning Mr. Forbes...
That is a great photo...for so many reasons!
Thanks for sharing...
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Thanks for the update and picture Forbes! God bless y'all man.
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Fantastic to see you standing on your own, Forbes! Thanks for the picture, and God bless!
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Good news guys. I'm about to reach another milestone. After receiving my "permanent" leg on last Friday, I was cleared to return to work. So on MONDAY October 31, I'll be returning to work. Feeling very excited and thankful.
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Thank God Forbes!!! I have been waiting to hear this good news man. I am happy for you that you have reached this MAJOR milestone. Seriously awesome news. ;D ;D ;D
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Best wishes Forbes. Very pleased to hear your good news
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Congratulations,Forbes. Remarkable recovery. I'm happy for you.. Happy Halloween!!!
Rich
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That picture speaks of great recovery! Like it didn't happen. God be with you and yours! Thanks!
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Forgive me Forbes, but which one is you in the pic. New guy on the block here and all. Congrats on your recovery too. I've got a friend on a Goldwing forum that lost his leg to diabetes and has had a heck of a time wuth the fitment of his leg and can't do much yet and he's been dealing wuth his for several years. He's an old guy though so perhaps that makes a difference.
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Good news, Forbes! Great way to start the holiday season. With the new leg I hope life is back to feeling normal.
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Forgive me Forbes, but which one is you in the pic. New guy on the block here and all. Congrats on your recovery too. I've got a friend on a Goldwing forum that lost his leg to diabetes and has had a heck of a time wuth the fitment of his leg and can't do much yet and he's been dealing wuth his for several years. He's an old guy though so perhaps that makes a difference.
I'm the one in the grey shirt.
My prayers go out to your friend. Diabetes is a CRUEL disease if it gets out of hand. it runs rampant in my extended family. And I've seen the havoc it can wreak on the human body.
I'm a diabetic also. But thankfully, it's well controlled. The doctors told me that the fact that it is under control played a TREMENDOUS part in the healing of the amputation site. They told me to stay on top of it in order to protect the residual limb as well as the intact limb.
Since I lost my leg to trauma, and since the diabetes is well controlled, my prognosis is excellent.
By the way, I strongly suspect that it's not so much your friend's age as it is his diabetes. If he can get his numbers under control, it will help IMMENSELY and may prevent other complications. I don't know him. But let him know that I wish him well and will remember him in my prayers.
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Thanks for your nice reply Forbes. You're also thin and fit which goes along ways in your recovery. My friend who has diabetes is also overweight which is problematic. I believe he's a heavy meat eater which is part of the problem. Many who have diabetes can better manage it with a plant based diet which will also drop some weight. How's the fitment going on the prosthetic? He has allot of problems with that.
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Thanks for your nice reply Forbes. You're also thin and fit which goes along ways in your recovery. My friend who has diabetes is also overweight which is problematic. I believe he's a heavy meat eater which is part of the problem. Many who have diabetes can better manage it with a plant based diet which will also drop some weight. How's the fitment going on the prosthetic? He has allot of problems with that.
I too lost weight by changing my diet and exercising more. The weight loss was a side effect. I'm a meat eater. But I reduced fried options. didn't completely give up anything. But I changed the proportions. I LOVE greens and other leafy and low carb vegetables. So I just eat more. I also love the starchy vegetables such as peas and beans too, but I stay mindful of the amount I eat.
I eat the "good" foods first. Then I eat the less heathy ones. That way I don't overdo it.
As for fitment of the prosthesis, it's a moving target, especially in the early days because the residual limb is rapidly shrinking. I had TWO temporary sockets ( the part that attaches to the residual limb) . And now my "permanent" prosthesis was a little larger than my prosthetist wanted it to be. So it will likely have to be replaced earlier than he originally planned. He said that after a year or so, things will stabilize.
Your friend's out of control diabetes likely presents extra challenges because the fitment is even more crucial because his skin is more sensitive, and his circulation is not that great. So any poor fit issues are magnified.
By the way, the fit of my socket changes throughout the day. It's tighter in the morning. And it loosens up throughput the day. So I have to add more prosthetic socks throughout the day. Tell your friend to not get discouraged.
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Great to hear the wonderful news, Forbes! Blessings on your continued recovery and adjustment back into work life!
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Well, i was able to accomplish two crucial tasks with only a little extra effort. I was able to get on the floor and set the arms for the lift under a fairly low vehicle-- a Ford Fusion. And I was able to remove and reinstall the wheel on the Fusion and an F150 without straining my back and without putting excess weight on my residual limb inside my prosthetic socket. I do have to pay close attention to prevent myself from kicking my step stand out of the way when I lean over the front of a truck because my prosthetic foot will push it out of the way when I lean over. But I don't feel it. But I think I can just bungee chord the step stand to the front bumper so it won't move. No biggie. I believe I'm going to fare well on my job and get back to full speed in just a short time. God is GREAT!
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Again. Thanks everyone for your prayers, encouragement, and well wishes . Thanks for allowing me to share my journey so far.
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Well, I had to go to Panama City for a pastor's meeting on yesterday. My mother rode with me. The church was around 5 miles from the scene of the accident. I was hesitant about going to the accident site. So I tried to make up an excuse that we didn't have time because we had something to do at home. But my mother stated that we had time, and it was up to me. (Translation, "boy Go!! Don't be a wimp. Besides I want to see the place where I nearly lost my baby boy". LOL). So we went.
Anyway, I finally was able to see CLEARLY what I actually hit and why. I distinctly remember looking and focusing on the sign on the right shoulder that said Mexico beach and Tyndal AFB. Well, I was in the left lane, and did not notice that the road was nearing an intersection and making a significant curve to the right. So I ran into the median and into a sign post. Then I ran into another smaller (but sharp and flat) signpost. the first post had obviously been picked back up and replanted because I saw the damage at the bottom as well as the markings from my scooter. I think the blunt force of that sign crushed my leg which made it impossible for me to stay on the scooter. Or either the second smaller sign finished me off. But as my mother and I both looked, we were very thankful that things turned out as well as they did. There were much larger objects nearby that could have caused much greater damage. Also, just a slightly different angle would have severed my left HAND which would have been much worse as far as being able to return to work, especially since I'm left handed.
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I broke rule #1. I took my eyes off the road TOO LONG by focusing on that sign rather than simply glancing at it. Although I was not asleep. I was not as alert as I should have been, therefore I believe my reaction time may have been slower.
A little SICK humor. The second , smaller sign that I did NOT look at in time was a sign with the arrows telling me that the road was shifting to the right!!! How about that for a slap in the face. LOL.
Anyway, seeing that place was something I needed to do. And my mother and I both gave God a praise in that the last time I approached that place I was carried away by ambulance. This time I drove away in my OWN vehicle.. The last time I left Panama City was by a Medical transport Chevy Ambulance type vehicle with a stranger driving and a stranger beside my medical bed trying to make small talk (before he drifted off to sleep thinking that I didn't notice). This time It was by MY OWN Lincoln Town Car with ME driving and my mother beside me making small talk and occasionally drifting off to sleep and not caring less If I noticed. What a difference FOUR MONTHS MAKES!! To God be the Glory.
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Well said.
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Thanks for the update Forbes! I got a chuckle out of the sign! Sounds like something that could happen to me. God bless you brother, and give mamma a hug for me.
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Thanks for the update Forbes! I got a chuckle out of the sign! Sounds like something that could happen to me. God bless you brother, and give mamma a hug for me.
Mama is glad that strangers also care for her son. She also loves you all.
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On this thanksgiving day I can't help but reflect on what COULD have been. But I'm very thankful for what ACTUALLY WAS. I'm here. Just today alone, I was able to (over) eat with family. And finally. I was able the join my sister, sister in law and nephew on their after dinner nearly two mile walk.
Also, I was able to read about Stig's cold weather ride. Although I'm not riding, I honestly enjoy reading of you all's various adventures. I'm thankful that I can experience pleasure simply knowing someone else is doing what they love.
And yes, work is going well. I'm still figuring out new ways to accomplish old tasks. So far, so good. The most challenging so far was replacing an oil pan on a 2008 F450 diesel. Portions of the job had to be done with the vehicle PARTIALLY lifted with me SITTING underneath in a somewhat contorted position. It was a challenge. But I did it.
Am I thankful? Is water wet? Lol. God has truly blessed me.
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Always good to hear updates Forbes. Thanksgiving is all the more sweeter when one realizes how close they came to not being around for another. Enjoy your weekend, leftovers and time spent with your family.
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Update. I'm still working. My residual limb has shrunk to the point where the socket no longer fits. So, I was fitted for another one and am waiting for it to arrive in about a week. So, I'll endure the discomfort until then.
That process was expected to take from 6-8 months. But it was evident one month after getting the leg that it wasn't going to take that long.
The reason for the swift change according to my prosthetist is that I'm so active which is a good thing. Most amputees are more sedentary due to the fact that most have other underlying medical issues . On the plus side, it is expected to stabilize more quickly.
My surgeon says that I don't have to see him anymore unless I have an issue. But he says the surgical sight looks fine and has healed nicely . Again, thanks for your support.
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Glad to hear from you Forbes! I have been wondering how you have been. Happy New Year to you and your family man!
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Another update::
It's been a minute since I posted a comment specifically concerning my progress on my prosthetic leg. In January, I received my 2nd socket (the part that attaches to the residual limb) made of carbon fiber. The fit was better than the previous socket, but there was ONE very small spot that rubbed against the skin behind and just below my knee. Sometimes the skin was actually RAW. Well. After SEVERAL visits adjustments, I think it's finally ok. It's been a FULL WEEK with no soreness there. PRAISE GOD!!!
Also, when I first received my prosthetic leg, I walked around Cascades park (approximately 1 mile). It took me about 30 minutes. Well, I timed myself today. And I was able to accomplish the exact same walk in 20 MINUTES!! That's progress!! I still don't have a "good foot" yet. I'll receive that possibility in June. But I'm THANKFUL for where God has brought me from. And I'm thanking him in advance for where he's going to take me.
In the words of the old Hymn: PRAISE GOD FROM WHOM ALL BLESSINGS FLOW!
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You're amazing Forbes and a bright spot here on the Kymco forum. Thank you for your inspiration and faith.
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What Scooter Dan said and you were thanking the right one!
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Been riding since 1975. My first road accident, crap.
Three of us were riding, I was number two in line.
Beautiful day, bright sunshine, we were in a tiny town doing about 30mph.
I did not see the leader put his turn signal on (sunshine, tinted shield).
I was in the right track he was in the left track. He looked left for a second
and so did I. When I looked forward again he was right in front of me angled
for a right turn. I hit both brakes and pointed left. Missed him but went down
, guess I was doing 10-15mph. Felt my left foot fold under me and helmet hitting
the ground.
Sprained left foot and right wrist. There are about 8 scratch points on the left side.
My brand new (custom Taiwan) mirrors survived, they have a cam detent. Whoopee !
So at 30mph I was moving 44 feet in one second, think I was about 50 feet behind him.
Not seeing his turn signal seems the critical issue.
Its all good, nice to have some friends that helped me.
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I would also like to agree with what scooter Dan said. If all this has brought you closer to GOD then
you are blessed. GOD can turn a tragedy into a triumph to His glory. I really appreciate you sharing your story. We are all lifted. Stay the course my brother.
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Great news Forbes. He does have his plan for you.
Wheels,
Been there done that on a dirt bike while riding the Rubicon Trial. My buddies help me back up and with some baling wire and duct tape I was able to ride back to camp. I hope you weren't to badly hurt? Bikes can be fixed or replaced, but we mortals not so easily. Take care of yourself.
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Another update::
" But I'm THANKFUL for where God has brought me from. And I'm thanking him in advance for where he's going to take me."
That preaches Forbes!!! God bless you and your family brother!!!
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Glad to hear the good news, Forbes. Sounds like you'll be moving comfortably by this summer. I wonder with the introduction of 3-D printing has the prosthetic industry taken any leaps forward in customizing their parts?
Wheels, sorry about your fall. I sometimes think it's our hindsight replay of things that hurts more; the --could-of-done- this -- mental game we play in our heads, over our own personal injuries. We learn from our experiences and that makes us better riders.
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This is in the "hurry up and wait" department. As of now I still have only a "basic " foot. And yes. I'm very thankful. However, my insurance determined back around November that a more advanced foot was not deemed "medically necessary " at that point. They wanted to be certain that I would really use my prosthetic since some don't. My prosthetist explained to them that I had returned to work and needed it when I stepped down from the engine compartment or these "Georgia styled "(my words) 4wd lifted F250 trucks. He explained that I regularly walked 1-2 miles per day. He explained that I lived at a place with an uneven yard on a hill. He explained that I was CURRENTLY very active and that the current foot was holding me back. But they declined his request anyway. Could their delay have anything to do with the fact that delay into a new year will cause me to now have to pay a $3,000 + deductible?
Well, come June, I'll FINALLY be able to get an advanced foot. Man! I'm counting down the days!
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I'm already looking at the "foot catalogues " . Purchasing a prosthetic foot is like purchasing the perfect shoe. But it has to be able to do all things at least acceptably well.
I saw a guy last week who walked so well that he didn't even have a limp! He told me that he could even jog and jump enough to play basketball. And while I don't play basketball, I'd still like to be able to jump a little. And I also miss being able to make a quick dash to or from my car in the rain.
I plan to ask him which foot and leg he has. I hope my insurance will pay for one like his. The one they declined earlier costs around 3-4 thousand for the foot alone. I'm sure that the one he has costs significantly more. Thanks to my family and friends, I have the anticipated deductible saved up in a go fundme account. Now if only they will pay for what I NEED and not just what they want me to have.
But I'll be grateful either way because whatever I get will be better than what I have. And what I have allows me to walk, work, and do MANY of the things I was used to doing. But COME ON JUNE! Lol.
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Forbes, you are a special person that just keeps on going and who defines the phrase not giving up. I'm under 2yrs post heart surgery right now and plugging a long at 138 lbs and thankful for so many things.
I'm sure you may have already come across Mark Inglis a double amputee that climbed Mt Everest. I watch Everest documentaries and have seen him in a few especially in the Everest:Beyond the Limit series.
Here he is a talking about one thing thats free in life and thats a positive attitude.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg1GDiA6KPM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg1GDiA6KPM)
Its real nice to hear you are getting improvements with your prosthesis.
Sometime I feel things although bad sometimes happen for a reason and set us on a different path. After surgery, I couldn't ride my scooter for a year, maybe something would have happened who knows. When I had my neck injury, my chiropractor noticed I had a melanoma on my back that a previous doctor said was benign and that saved my life. I believe God works in mysterious ways.
Wish you the best and we can all learn from you.
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Forbes, you are a special person that just keeps on going and who defines the phrase not giving up. I'm under 2yrs post heart surgery right now and plugging a long at 138 lbs and thankful for so many things.
I'm sure you may have already come across Mark Inglis a double amputee that climbed Mt Everest. I watch Everest documentaries and have seen him in a few especially in the Everest:Beyond the Limit series.
Here he is a talking about one thing thats free in life and thats a positive attitude.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg1GDiA6KPM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg1GDiA6KPM)
Its real nice to hear you are getting improvements with your prosthesis.
Sometime I feel things although bad sometimes happen for a reason and set us on a different path. After surgery, I couldn't ride my scooter for a year, maybe something would have happened who knows. When I had my neck injury, my chiropractor noticed I had a melanoma on my back that a previous doctor said was benign and that saved my life. I believe God works in mysterious ways.
Wish you the best and we can all learn from you.
Learning from you all as well. And yes, I too believe that although God does not cause these things, if he allows them to happen, it's a piece of a puzzle that will ultimately come together for our good. I don't see it all right now. But I have seen enough to realize that God will turn ashes to gold out of this situation.
Also, it was great to hear a part of YOUR story as well.
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Forbes
You can look at things in the way of how you effect other people. People see you keeping a positive attitude, getting back to work, and moving ahead. Seeing you moving ahead in the face of adversity is inspiring to me and should be to other people; and this effects others in a positive way and gives those people also facing adversity confidence to move forward themselves. Almost like that movie "Its a Wondeful Life" where you just don't realize how you affect others in a positive way. Its a nice gift to have and when we read about your plight, its makes me and possibly others put things into perspective and realize that we can overcome adversity and forge ahead also. So in that aspect, you have affected others in a positive way even though you may not realize it.
You story has been very inspiring.
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Forbes
You can look at things in the way of how you effect other people. People see you keeping a positive attitude, getting back to work, and moving ahead. Seeing you moving ahead in the face of adversity is inspiring to me and should be to other people; and this effects others in a positive way and gives those people also facing adversity confidence to move forward themselves. Almost like that movie "Its a Wondeful Life" where you just don't realize how you affect others in a positive way. Its a nice gift to have and when we read about your plight, its makes me and possibly others put things into perspective and realize that we can overcome adversity and forge ahead also. So in that aspect, you have affected others in a positive way even though you may not realize it.
You story has been very inspiring.
Thanks.
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Yeah, Forbes. What Chris said. Keep up the inspiration!
Karl
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Yeah, Forbes. What Chris said. Keep up the inspiration!
Karl
thanks. And I hope you all keep the encouragement coming. Not just for me, but for all in this forum who are facing challenges.
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Well, as I approach the time where I'm ready for my new prosthesis, I'm becoming familiar with an insurance term that I already see is going to cause me grief. That term is "Medically Necessary ". In order to receive the prosthesis that will allow me to perform NEAR my pre-accident ability, my prosthetist has to translate my input to an insurance language that will show them that I am limited by my present prosthesis. At the same time, he has to demonstrate to their satisfaction that the more advanced prosthesis WILL allow me to perform more closely to normal . But proving what I WILL BE able to do is difficult because I can't do it now. And how does my prosthetist and I prove that the new leg will allow me to perform more tasks since I can't perform them now?
Insurance logic. If I can perform the tasks now, I don't need the advanced prosthesis. If I can NOT perform the tasks now, why do I need an advanced prosthesis that I can't fully utilize?
Quality of life means nothing to them. My prosthetist told me that he needs to use words such as pain, imbalance, unstable, and about to fall in order for then to pay attention. The fact that I could run and jog prior to my accident may mean little to them.
Imagine being able to overcome nearly every physical and mental hurdle only to be blocked by an INSURANCE COMPANY and semantics? Oh well. With God's help, I'll overcome the insurance bean counters too. Hopefully by June, my prosthetist and I will have come up with a Winning strategy.
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Good luck, Forbes. This sounds like a needless trial they're putting your through. Is there any way to find out who are the patients who did receive a new prosthesis, and build your case around how they succeeded?
Also, can you connect what you do at work, and the need to be properly balanced and coordinated in order for you to do your job properly? When looked at carefully the insurance industry has less to do with providing insurance and more about them making a profit. It's like putting money in a bank and then having to justify why you need to make a withdrawal.
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It's been a long journey Forbes and your faith in God's care and provision for you has got you to where you are along with a whole lot of love and help from family and friends. Your upbeat and positive attitude has been a winning combination coupled with your faith and the love and support you've received is blessing you and will attract to you everything you need. Some call this the Law of Attraction. You're in good hands Little brother (me 67).
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Insurance logic. If I can perform the tasks now, I don't need the advanced prosthesis. If I can NOT perform the tasks now, why do I need an advanced prosthesis that I can't fully utilize?
Quality of life means nothing to them. My prosthetist told me that he needs to use words such as pain, imbalance, unstable, and about to fall in order for then to pay attention. The fact that I could run and jog prior to my accident may mean little to them.
It seems to me that the insurance purpose should be to make you "whole" again and having a advanced prosthesis would be a big step to that.
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You're accident is what I fear most. Sightseeing can be a killer when operating a cycle. All's that's happened to you has caused me to be much more careful. When I feel like sightseeing, I think of you and all you've been thru. You're accident, as horrible as it was, has not been wasted on myself and I'm sure, every rider on this forum. How is you're family dealing with the idea that you may ride again?
I hope you will ride again, if that's you're hearts desire, and I know you'll be a better rider. You have been in my prayers and will continue to be.. Good luck and GOD bless.
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You're accident is what I fear most. Sightseeing can be a killer when operating a cycle. All's that's happened to you has caused me to be much more careful. When I feel like sightseeing, I think of you and all you've been thru. You're accident, as horrible as it was, has not been wasted on myself and I'm sure, every rider on this forum. How is you're family dealing with the idea that you may ride again?
I hope you will ride again, if that's you're hearts desire, and I know you'll be a better rider. You have been in my prayers and will continue to be.. Good luck and GOD bless.
Mac
I haven't fully decided whether or not I'll ride again. But I'll be at peace either way. But the first thing I'll ride will be a bicycle since it's my first love. It will enable me to regain confidence with maintaining balance and being able to keep my foot where it's supposed to be in spite of not fully being able to feel it.
As for sightseeing, the simple rules are to never "hone in" on something so long that it takes your attention off the road. And don't daydream while riding. Take in the sites with a quick glance. And if something is REALLY interesting, Pull over and stop, so you can SAFELY soak it all in.
Follow those rules you'll be just fine
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Well said, Forbes. In motorcycle safety training, that's called "fixation" If you fix your attention on something too long, you will tend to move in that direction. Ever see on the news how a driver hits a patrol car and maybe even the officer? In most cases they were honing in or fixing on them and wasn't even aware that they were drifting in their direction. You tend to go where you are looking. As you, so rightly said, just a quick glance, if not in heavy traffic or a busy intersection, should do you and if you need to take a longer look, then pull over to a safe spot. We know the rules, but some times we fail to apply them. Be careful on your bicycle also. The worst wreck I ever had on two wheels was on a bicycle, but that's another story. What ever you wind up doing, enjoy the rest of you life and give GOD the glory.
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Well said, Forbes. In motorcycle safety training, that's called "fixation" If you fix your attention on something too long, you will tend to move in that direction. Ever see on the news how a driver hits a patrol car and maybe even the officer? In most cases they were honing in or fixing on them and wasn't even aware that they were drifting in their direction. You tend to go where you are looking. As you, so rightly said, just a quick glance, if not in heavy traffic or a busy intersection, should do you and if you need to take a longer look, then pull over to a safe spot. We know the rules, but some times we fail to apply them. Be careful on your bicycle also. The worst wreck I ever had on two wheels was on a bicycle, but that's another story. What ever you wind up doing, enjoy the rest of you life and give GOD the glory.
Mac
Mac, that last sentence speaks VOLUMES! I'll certainly take that to heart and let it be one of my major life's goals. Thanks!
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HEY EVERYBODY! July 3, made ONE YEAR since my accident. I spent July 3-5, 2016 in the ICU of a STRANGE hospital in a Panama City, Florida which is over 100 miles from home! And I had a mangled left leg which would end up being amputated a week later. But spent July 3, 2017 at WORK . And I hope to spend Today, July 4 at or very near home or the place of my choosing!
HAVING to work Yesterday was a bummer. But BEING ABLE to work was nothing short of a blessing!!
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A bad day at work is better than ANY day in ICU.
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A bad day at work is better than ANY day in ICU.
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A bad day at work is better than ANY day in ICU.
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Mr Forbes, You are a pistol!
(or, as my old Granmother from Tenn. would say, "a caution!")
I was thinking the other day that we were nearing the anniversary of that dark day....for you - and for many of your fellows here.
The outcome, of course, has only been an inspiration due your faith and resilience.
Well done, you - good buddy!
Stig
PS: I am, this sunrise, in Ohio's best reservoir of great bumper stickers and coffee shops...("Ah, I see the Screw-Up fairy has been here!")....and wouldn't your last line make a good one!
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Well Forbes, you're a blessed man. 200 years ago and having a wagon crush your leg meant a lifetime of needing care and here you are independent and "able to work". Happy 4th Bro.
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Well Forbes, you're a blessed man. 200 years ago and having a wagon crush your leg meant a lifetime of needing care and here you are independent and "able to work". Happy 4th Bro.
You can say that again. I think about that all the time. I visualize the pirate with the peg leg. And I am very thankful for the advances in technology that allow me to live a normal life and get around better than some of my peers who have all of their limbs.
Then again, 200 years ago we wouldn't be riding machines at that could move at speeds high enough to tear us to pieces either. Lol.
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Then again, 200 years ago we wouldn't be riding machines at that could move at speeds high enough to tear us to pieces either. Lol.
Doesn't take high speed to get hurt. Watched a rider ahead of me on a group ride go down going about 10mph and scooter fell on his leg and crushed it. Didn't lose the leg but can't walk much or work. He's dependent on family to help him survive the rest of his life.
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Congrats on making the one year milestone! Sounds like life has fallen back into their normal rhythms for you, despite the new leg, and I'm glad you're still posting on the forum. Few people could have done what you did.
I think even 50 years ago life would have been a hardship given the seriousness of our injuries. Given the pains in my life I'm thankful for antibiotics, painkillers and modern dentistry.
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Doesn't take high speed to get hurt. Watched a rider ahead of me on a group ride go down going about 10mph and scooter fell on his leg and crushed it. Didn't lose the leg but can't walk much or work. He's dependent on family to help him survive the rest of his life.
Wow! I'm so thankful when I think of what COULD have happened. Also, I'm very thankful that I had an HONEST surgeon. He did give me the choice to try to save my leg. And he could have still been making money off of me. If he had so much as said "it will be difficult, but I believe I can have your leg back to NEAR normal " I would have jumped at the chance.
But instead, he said that even IF he was successful, my leg would likely be of limited use and Chronically painful.
Then he suggested that amputation may actually be the best choice to live a normal life.
I dare not claim to know what's best for another person. But I wonder if he would have been better off if he had made the decision that I made. Many surgeons see amputation as a failure. But mine viewed it as the best chance for success.
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Congrats on making the one year milestone! Sounds like life has fallen back into their normal rhythms for you, despite the new leg, and I'm glad you're still posting on the forum. Few people could have done what you did.
I think even 50 years ago life would have been a hardship given the seriousness of our injuries. Given the pains in my life I'm thankful for antibiotics, painkillers and modern dentistry.
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Yes! Advances in prosthetics have taken leaps and bounds in the last thirty years or so. Unfortunately, it took soldiers getting maimed in great numbers to create the demand high enough for research to actually pay off. Their SACRIFICE was to my benefit .
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Their sacrifice was to all our benefits. My greatest fear was not being killed or maimed but having that happen to me 10,000 miles from home. Anytime I see a service member in uniform or someone I know to be a service member or vet, I thank them for their service to our country. Your recovery is nothing less than miraculous and I am so happy for you. The old saying, "you can't keep a good man down", has been proven once again. Carry on, my brother.
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Their sacrifice was to all our benefits. My greatest fear was not being killed or maimed but having that happen to me 10,000 miles from home. Anytime I see a service member in uniform or someone I know to be a service member or vet, I thank them for their service to our country. Your recovery is nothing less than miraculous and I am so happy for you. The old saying, "you can't keep a good man down", has been proven once again. Carry on, my brother.
Thanks. I can only imagine being hurt thousands of miles from home. Being even 120 or so miles from home was bad enough. But at least my family and some friends could come see me at my lowest point. Shortly after I awoke from the initial surgery, I can't describe the relief I felt from seeing my sister, nephew , and a former classmate. I could shed some tears then. And when Mother arrived later that afternoon, that was waterworks part 2. She didn't cry. But I did. Lol.
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At those moments, when the tears were flowing, you were receiving a great lesson on the value of love. You were blessed...
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So glad to see you looking so well a year on Forbes. Hope the future has good things in store for you
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Got my carbon fiber socket yesterday. So far it fits well. Makes me feel like a machine when I describe it. Total load bearing socket, vacuum suspension with an Ottobock p4 vacuum pump / shock absorber. Attached to a carbon fiber Triton lp (low profile) prosthetic foot with a split toe design. With a brown foot cover. (I think) load range 3.
Then he has to align it like a car suspension. --I compare it to caster, camber, and toe. -- the axis of leg has to be at the right angle. The foot has to be so the load is distributed evenly from side to side and from front to back. And the foot has to be pointed in the right direction to match the direction of the other foot (in my case toe out) . Yep, as an auto mechanic I'm making direct comparisons. Lol.
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Got my carbon fiber socket yesterday. So far it fits well. Makes me feel like a machine when I describe it. Total load bearing socket, vacuum suspension with an Ottobock p4 vacuum pump / shock absorber. Attached to a carbon fiber Triton lp (low profile) prosthetic foot with a split toe design. With a brown foot cover. (I think) load range 3.
Then he has to align it like a car suspension. --I compare it to caster, camber, and toe. -- the axis of leg has to be at the right angle. The foot has to be so the load is distributed evenly from side to side and from front to back. And the foot has to be pointed in the right direction to match the direction of the other foot (in my case toe out) . Yep, as an auto mechanic I'm making direct comparisons. Lol.
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Dang Forbes!
Wish my Michelin dealer had been half as detailed aligning my new tires!
Prosthetics have come a long way since I did OJT as a medic in training at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio in the 60's. BAMC offered the most advanced burn treatment for the military at the time - with lots of men returning on air-ambulance planes from Japan & Vietnam. A frequent assignment ("Litter Bearer") was to meet and unload the planes, always at night, into buses for dispersal to various wards, depending on injury types.
Sobering duty - all of which helped one get your head straight before shipping over. Watched the fellows (each a civilian) working in the prosthetic shop. Amazing skills.
Mr. Forbes - you continue to uplift all who know you! I wager your story has helped get some heads straight, as well.
Thank you.
Stig
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Dang Forbes!
Wish my Michelin dealer had been half as detailed aligning my new tires!
Prosthetics have come a long way since I did OJT as a medic in training at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio in the 60's. BAMC offered the most advanced burn treatment for the military at the time - with lots of men returning on air-ambulance planes from Japan & Vietnam. A frequent assignment ("Litter Bearer") was to meet and unload the planes, always at night, into buses for dispersal to various wards, depending on injury types.
Sobering duty - all of which helped one get your head straight before shipping over. Watched the fellows (each a civilian) working in the prosthetic shop. Amazing skills.
Mr. Forbes - you continue to uplift all who know you! I wager your story has helped get some heads straight, as well.
Thank you.
Stig
Thanks for the kind words. By the way, my prosthetist is an amputee who was injured when in The Navy. chose his field for somewhat similar reasons that I chose auto mechanics as my career. He stated that he liked being able to immediately see the results of his work. A patient comes in unable to walk because his leg is gone or is lacking a hand or arm . But leaves beginning to walk again of able to grasp objects again. I like seeing car come in running badly or not at all but leave running with a happy driver behind the wheel. It's a sense of accomplishment and purpose.
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Hey Forbes. Glad you got your upgraded socket. Sounds like you have a really good prosthesis tech there! Please forgive me but I have to go there: "Caster, camber, and TOE." It is actually more accurate in this application dontcha think?
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Hey Forbes. Glad you got your upgraded socket. Sounds like you have a really good prosthesis tech there! Please forgive me but I have to go there: "Caster, camber, and TOE." It is actually more accurate in this application dontcha think?
Pretty much. Literally. Lol
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That's really great, Forbes! That leg is all mechanical, right? Hopefully it is so it will never be "hacked" over some nearby wi-fi system!
I am with you on your car in the shop, running poorly or not at all, leaving sounding like a sewing machine with a happy face at the controls. That happy face goal is this forum. No matter what the problem this bunch will back you up! It has been rewarding and inspirational to know you and see you meet the problem with true grit and succeed. The input to the initial cause and YOUR evaluation on what you could have done differently is highly valuable to the rest of us. Sorta like one of us pointing out how slippery grass clippings can be! Makes all hands aware.
200 years ago we did not have speedy personal transport like today. However, we did have HORSES! My thoughts go to Christopher Reeve (aka superman) and his horse dismount disaster. What a result! He never quit, either, just like you!
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Hey Forbes, my buddy from a Goldwing Forum who got diabetes and lost his leg last year now had to have the other taken about a month ago. He's going through therapy now for his second prosthetic. My friend Bob has no insurance or money and Medicaid is paying for his prosthetic but doesn't seem like his is as nice as yours. Your's sounds very high tech.
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Hey Forbes, my buddy from a Goldwing Forum who got diabetes and lost his leg last year now had to have the other taken about a month ago. He's going through therapy now for his second prosthetic. My friend Bob has no insurance or money and Medicaid is paying for his prosthetic but doesn't seem like his is as nice as yours. Your's sounds very high tech.
My prosthetist had to fight to get it approved. He had to prove to them that i NEEDED it. Medically necessary is the Medicare /Medicaid term. He's a great listener. When I thought I was just making small talk, he was taking notes. I told him my prior to amputation activities. He found out that my house is on a hill with a semi washed out driveway. He asked how many steps I had, my job responsibilities including the fact that I have to balance and rotate tires on vehicles as large as an f350.
I'm not sure of your friend's pre amputation overall condition. But the key words that Medicaid or insurance wants to hear are "this leg is necessary to prevent falls. And this will prevent further damage to his residual limb. Which is a fancy way of saying "it will keep the patient OUT of the hospital and save THEM (the government or insurance company) money. His prosthetist can help determine what's best for him for his balance and safety. I found out more Than I ever wanted to know about the insurance industry.
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Well, here's another update. I'm loving the upgraded leg. GUESS WHAT? I CAN JOG and even RUN a little. I know the rule is "if there are no pictures. It didn't happen " . But I haven't figured out how to take a selfie of me running yet.[emoji16]
They say that a BK (below knee) amputee uses 25% more energy when walking than a non amputee. So that may explain why after running only a short distance, I sweat like a pig at a slaughterhouse on a 100 degree day. ---- Or it may be because prior to a few weeks ago , I hadn't jogged or run in over a year.
Or it may be due to the fact that PRIOR to my amputation, I used to sweat like a pig after running only a short distance . [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Advantages: 1. I can jog and run.
2. Due to the fact that it's held on by a mechanical vacuum system that's activated when I walk, my stump remains a constant size, and I don't have to remove it and add prosthetic socks during the course of the day like I did with my old leg.
3. Because of The vacuum , It simply feels more comfortable and more connected..
4 . If I'm wearing long pants, many people don't even realize that I have a fake leg. In fact, I was walking with my sisters out of town in July. And my OWN SISTER who l only see every few months, asked" Darryl, are you limping a little?". I thought she was just messing with me until my other sisters gave her the "are you crazy" look. After all, I had been on it all day. Then her brain kicked in. She'd momentarily forgotten that I had an artificial leg!
5. I can sit for a few hours and drive without having to stop every 45 minutes to relieve the pain. In fact, now my 53 year old bladder is the limiting factor. [emoji16]
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Disadvantages :
1. It's more difficult to remove and install than my old prosthesis. I can no longer simply roll up my pants leg. I have to go somewhere private and drop my trousers in
Order to remove it to dry the sweat on these HOT , HUMID Florida days.
2. Because it's held on by vacuum, if there's even a small vacuum leak , it kind of flops around. The sealing sleeve is the weak link. Average lifespan 3-4 months, normal wear item, price about $100.00.
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Finally, the price of the entire assembly is approximately 20 THOUSAND dollars! My deductible approx. 4 THOUSAND dollars.
Warranty. Sealing Sleeve 3 months, urethane liner 6 months, pump 24 months, socket and leg 36 months , foot 36 months.
But the socket will likely have to be replaced much sooner due to changes in my leg.
Insurance will repair items after the warranty. But will not replace them until 5 YEARS.
Anyway, that's the progress report. Overall I'm pleased. And I am DEFINITELY BLESSED more than I deserve.
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Thanks for the update Forbes.
You remain an inspiration to this, your internet scooter gang!
Best regards,
Stig
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Keep on livin', Forbes! Good on ya!
Karl
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Thanks for the update. We are all very grateful that you have finally gotten the right combination to walk comfortably and actually run - that's fantastic. We wish you all the best of God's blessings on you because you are such a blessing and an inspiration to all of us. Keep truckin'!
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Good to see you are in a good place Forbes. Very best wishes to you from here in England
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Hey Forbes, good to hear from you. Glad to see that everything has finally progressed in the right direction. Stay well and keep inspiring
Rich
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In my prayers get well
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Those are a couple of really good ones! Forbes' recovery is magnificent! Robo's repair shows learning and tenacity. Bothnare inspirations. Working on how to present one that was done mostly PM.....
Karl
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Happy New Year Forbes. Hope 2018 will be a good one with the medical problems and expenses hopefully behind you and a new year ahead.
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Another adventure in my continuing saga. On Thursday as I was climbing my topside creeper to access the top of an engine of a 4WD F250, my prosthetic foot slipped. (Thankfully, I was only on the first rung). I simply thought I’d just not positioned it properly. As I begin to walk away, I noticed it felt funny. Well, it BROKE. that’s why it slipped.
Advantages of a prosthesis.
1. No pain when the foot breaks.
2. No emergency room visit required.
3. When you go to the Prosthetist, he says “maybe I have one in the back I can attach to your leg until your replacement arrives. “
4. Your foot is covered by a 3 YEAR warranty against DEFECTS.
5. After about one hour, you can WALK out of the office better than you walked in and go right back to work and for a 2 mike walk.
6. You can get a brand new foot overnight in some cases.
Try ANY of those things with your REAL foot. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Those are a couple of really good ones! Forbes' recovery is magnificent! Robo's repair shows learning and tenacity. Bothnare inspirations. Working on how to present one that was done mostly PM.....
Karl
Yes, the new year is going great. Just had an issue with a broken foot (the fake one). But it was taken care of quickly.
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Happy New Year Forbes. Hope 2018 will be a good one with the medical problems and expenses hopefully behind you and a new year ahead.
- Wolf
Thanks. I think it will be a good year. I just noted the broken foot a few moments ago. But it was replaced FREE under warranty.
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Those are a couple of really good ones! Forbes' recovery is magnificent! Robo's repair shows learning and tenacity. Bothnare inspirations. Working on how to present one that was done mostly PM.....
Karl
From reading many of the posts concerning warranty issues and parts delays, perhaps Kymco can learn from my Prosthetist.
When I called, he told me to come on in. He would take a shorter lunch break in order to assist me.
He gave me a “loaner†part and installed it so I could still use my vehicle (leg)
He called the manufacturer to find out if there was a common problem with this particular foot.
He was able to get the part MORE QUICKLY than promised. He said POSSIBLY Monday. But he was able to get it OVERNIGHT. And he called me when it arrived and installed my part that day (Friday)
He UNDER PROMISED and OVER DELIVERED . The OPPOSITE of what many dealerships do. (Including the one where I work)
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Thanks for posting 'ol 64!
Good news is sometimes in short supply these days.
Happily - there are still a lot of good workers around. (people following the Golden Rule - after 30 yrs of attending to coworker's needs in the workplace, I'm aware that one doesn't often get recognition for same. But then, that's not why we do it, is it?
On my final day at work, I sought out nearly a dozen people who never failed to brighten my days ....and told them so. Then old "quiet Tom" got in his truck and drove home. (new boss said, " no scooters".....mounting my scooter would have been a more cinematic ending☺)
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Haven’t added to this post in a long time. But yesterday made 3 YEARS since the accident that cut my scooter riding days short. Seems like yesterday. But also seems like a lifetime ago. Just a reminder to ALWAYS wear your helmet . I’m convinced that it was the reason I “only†lost part of a leg vs my MIND. I still can’t believe that I sustained no other injuries other a minor cut from the helmet chin strap. Also, that riding jacket prevented road rash. Still haven’t ridden again. But that’s due to finances and family. It still may happen. Meanwhile, I’ll continue to ride VICARIOUSLY through you all.
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Thanks for posting 'ol 64!
Good news is sometimes in short supply these days.
Happily - there are still a lot of good workers around. (people following the Golden Rule - after 30 yrs of attending to coworker's needs in the workplace, I'm aware that one doesn't often get recognition for same. But then, that's not why we do it, is it?
On my final day at work, I sought out nearly a dozen people who never failed to brighten my days ....and told them so. Then old "quiet Tom" got in his truck and drove home. (new boss said, " no scooters".....mounting my scooter would have been a more cinematic ending[emoji5])
Stig
Still getting along well. I hope to one day be able to enjoy my retirement like you. Meanwhile, I’ll continue working one day at a time and enjoy the rare moments when my efforts are appreciated . That’s what keeps me going.
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One thing I’ve noticed over the last three years is that maintenance costs on a fake leg rival the maintenance costs of a scooter.
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First thought was ditch the leg and get a scooter but that just wouldn't work! Good to hear from you! You still fixin' cars!
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I would love to have a man* like Mr Forbes in the family!
Good to hear from you.
And, hey I'm not spending much on scooter servicing these days.
I'm still mending some from the ham string forward triple splits I did into the front shrubbery last winter. Ice cube door matt was a real surprise.
Fortunately only my pup witnessed it....
Glad Mr F recovered faster than I did.
We're all together in this aging thing.
Best to number off, in case someone goes missing at Morning Formation!
Stig
*originally wrote "mechanic", but thought better of it
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First thought was ditch the leg and get a scooter but that just wouldn't work! Good to hear from you! You still fixin' cars!
Yep still fixing cars. It lets me see both perspectives: 1. Techs that either don’t know or don’t care. Seem not to realize that the customer works hard for their money and deserves our best.
2. Customers who have no idea what it takes and assume we’re trying to fleece them. Also think we hook a vehicle to a machine, and it tells us exactly what is wrong and how to fix it. They seem to think we don’t deserve to make a living.
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First thought was ditch the leg and get a scooter but that just wouldn't work! Good to hear from you! You still fixin' cars!
Common things with a scooter and a leg.:
Both require constant maintenance.
Both are dependent on the person fixing them knowing what they are doing.
Both are a high initial investment and will then nickel and dime you to death.
With both, it’s sometimes less trouble to do the simple things yourself even if still under warranty.
With both a good technician will show you how to do the simple things yourself without getting offended. And will not be afraid to answer questions.
Both try to UP SALE to a more expensive model when it’s time for replacement.
With both, count yourself EXTREMELY fortunate if you find good service within a close distance.
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I would love to have a man* like Mr Forbes in the family!
Good to hear from you.
And, hey I'm not spending much on scooter servicing these days.
I'm still mending some from the ham string forward triple splits I did into the front shrubbery last winter. Ice cube door matt was a real surprise.
Fortunately only my pup witnessed it....
Glad Mr F recovered faster than I did.
We're all together in this aging thing.
Best to number off, in case someone goes missing at Morning Formation!
Stig
*originally wrote "mechanic", but thought better of it
Hey. No problem either way. A good mechanic SHOULD also be a good man. [emoji16][emoji16]
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Well done! Don't anyone even try to top that! Yeay!
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Just found and finished reading all 26 pages, Forbes. Thank you for inspiring us so powerfully. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your strength and character. Please know that your faith and determination have helped us all.
And Stig, thank you for this great website where we can share and read stories by others so we help and be helped... and at least pray for those who need it.
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Just found and finished reading all 26 pages, Forbes. Thank you for inspiring us so powerfully. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your strength and character. Please know that your faith and determination have helped us all.
And Stig, thank you for this great website where we can share and read stories by others so we help and be helped... and at least pray for those who need it.
My pleasure to help things along - but real kudos go to the administrator - SKADAMO, who started this site on November 15, 2007!
Mr. Forbes is a treasure.
Stig
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My pleasure to help things along - but real kudos go to the administrator - SKADAMO, who started this site on November 15, 2007!
Mr. Forbes is a treasure.
Stig
Oh, sorry, Stig. Thanks for letting me know.
And thanks to SKADAMO for creating and maintaining the forum!
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Just found and finished reading all 26 pages, Forbes. Thank you for inspiring us so powerfully. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your strength and character. Please know that your faith and determination have helped us all.
And Stig, thank you for this great website where we can share and read stories by others so we help and be helped... and at least pray for those who need it.
Thanks man. By the way. I had an uncle that we called uncle Coot. Never did find out why. I asked daddy. Thought he’d know because dad was older. He didn’t know why either. Anyway, that didn’t have anything to do with anything. But I thought I’d share anyway.
I must be turning into my dad as I get older. He’d go off on a tangent for no reason too. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Thanks man. By the way. I had an uncle that we called uncle Coot. Never did find out why. I asked daddy. Thought he’d know because dad was older. He didn’t know why either. Anyway, that didn’t have anything to do with anything. But I thought I’d share anyway.
I must be turning into my dad as I get older. He’d go off on a tangent for no reason too. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Coot on Dictionary.com: "a foolish or crotchety person, especially one who is old."
Also: "any aquatic bird of the genus Fulica, as F. americana, of North America, and F. atra, of the Old World, characterized by lobate toes and short wings and tail... any of various other swimming or diving birds, especially the scoters." (I think they misspelled scooters.)
I fit the first definition perfectly.
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Coot on Dictionary.com: "a foolish or crotchety person, especially one who is old."
Also: "any aquatic bird of the genus Fulica, as F. americana, of North America, and F. atra, of the Old World, characterized by lobate toes and short wings and tail... any of various other swimming or diving birds, especially the scoters." (I think they misspelled scooters.)
I fit the first definition perfectly.
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Thoughts and prayers from Kansas. I hope for a speedy recovery.