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Scooters - 125 to 300 => LIKE 200i => Topic started by: Stig / Major Tom on May 20, 2013, 11:07:38 PM

Title: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on May 20, 2013, 11:07:38 PM
I think we all look for ways to increase our visual footprint on the road. If they see us, maybe they won't hit us?

IMPORTANT INFO - TURN ON THE KEY AND TEST THE LED BULB BEFORE PUTTING IT BACK DOWN INTO THE HOLDER/SOCKET. IF IT DOES NOT WORK, REMOVE AND FLIP IT OVER AND RE-INSTALL. IT WILL WORK NOW!)

I received help from member 'kriden' when I asked about getting at those running lights on our Kymco LIKEs. (It took me about an hour because I have hands the size of Easter Hams.)

"Kriden" gave good instructions and today I replaced my running lights with a pair of '5 light' LEDs (eBay, @ $2) Also picked up some '7 light' LEDs and may try those later.


OK, here's what they look like, installed.
And here is what we're going to install.
Title: Re: replaced LIKE running lights w/LED #2
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on May 20, 2013, 11:10:57 PM
Here's how you remove and install them - from under the leg sheild, by the space above the front fender.
And here is a camera's eye view of where we're going. (Note the info for the bulb type is back down in there, NOT in the manual, and NOT on the bulb!Only with the camera was I able to see the info for the bulb.)
Title: Re: replaced LIKE running lights w/LED #1
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on May 20, 2013, 11:17:37 PM
Remove the black panels inside the glove box. Remove screws then pull from the screw area - sideways and the panel will slip free. It is fitted into grooves on the near edge (green edge in pix)
Reach in from outside by the front tire, pull the white rubber light socket from the holder. Bring it up into the glove box to exchange the bulbs.
Title: Re: replaced LIKE running lights w/LED #1
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on May 20, 2013, 11:22:36 PM
Take your time, use both hands, insure the bulb does not get pushed out of the socket while you're working with it.
(I put a thin dab of dish soap on the rubber socket collar to make it easier to push it back in using only 2 fingers.)
Here's what they look like in the bulb holder.
Very much brighter running lights.
Thanks Kriden for the encouragement to under take this scooter improvement!
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: tclhb on May 21, 2013, 04:42:05 AM
Interesting.
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: Vivo on May 21, 2013, 05:00:00 AM
I strongly recommend flat leds instead of the multi SMD you are using... These flat leds have aluminum cases that act as heat sinks and increases the life of your leds... flat leds are also whiter compared to SMDs...  I use them as my park/running lights...



(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g436/castandiello77/2012-05-27114840.jpg?t=1339641017)

Flat leds on the left, 32 led on the right... for comparison


(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g436/castandiello77/2012-04-25070922.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/castandiello77/media/2012-04-25070922.jpg.html)
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: kriden on May 24, 2013, 03:16:35 AM
GREAT post and job Stig (love the name too...fan of Top Gear myself).  Nice going and glad the job went well.  Well done sir !!
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: TroutBum on May 25, 2013, 04:39:22 AM
Stig,

When you say dead yellow light do you mean that the socket is not 'hot'? I would like to get rid of those ugly lollipop turn singles (DOT requirement) and move the turn signals to the leg shields.
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: rogerd1944 on June 11, 2013, 05:07:06 PM
I made the change to flat led also. Easy change out and makes a big difference. Thanks for posting .I check this forum often and I always look for :) improvements for my Like 200i
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: kriden on June 17, 2013, 09:56:46 PM
I strongly recommend flat leds instead of the multi SMD you are using... These flat leds have aluminum cases that act as heat sinks and increases the life of your leds... flat leds are also whiter compared to SMDs...  I use them as my park/running lights...



(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g436/castandiello77/2012-05-27114840.jpg?t=1339641017)

Flat leds on the left, 32 led on the right... for comparison


(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g436/castandiello77/2012-04-25070922.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/castandiello77/media/2012-04-25070922.jpg.html)


Thanks for the tip Vivo.  Just got some lights per your recommendation.  Will let you you know how they look/work.  They are a nicer design.  Take care/
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: PaulF on August 06, 2016, 01:10:06 PM
This is a very interesting topic.  I am thinking of replacing all my globes with led lights including the tail light.  Any of the posters in this thread still happy with them and what is the watt rating on the led globes that replaced the 12v w3w as a few that I looked at were rated as w5w so wondering if going to a higher watt would have any disadvantage to the wiring or plastic lens cover.
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: xsel777 on August 06, 2016, 06:22:19 PM
There is no reason to go higher watt, as these things are really bright, you will find out pretty quick with oncoming traffic complaining.
I highly recommend changing to led, you will never regret it, and bonus, they last longer too.

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Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: PaulF on August 07, 2016, 01:46:55 AM
The longer life is worth it by its self but really bright parkers in the front would be an advantage in being visible.
Paul
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on August 07, 2016, 10:12:35 AM
I went back to 5W incandescent amber bulbs.
Probably bought the wrong cheap LEDs....they began to flicker and chips burn out.
No issues with the amber bulbs going on three years.
Stig
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: PaulF on August 07, 2016, 10:21:28 AM
I went back to 5W incandescent amber bulbs.
Probably bought the wrong cheap LEDs....they began to flicker and chips burn out.
No issues with the amber bulbs going on three years.
Stig

Sounds like the cheap ebay leds are just not reliable.  Thanks for that info, will make sure  that I purchased some good ones.
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: Motorfoon on August 12, 2016, 04:05:58 PM
Sounds like the cheap ebay leds are just not reliable.  Thanks for that info, will make sure  that I purchased some good ones.

Thanks for the headsup.

Its always nice to hear how things work out long term
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: PaulF on August 12, 2016, 10:47:00 PM
I purchased and fitted the Philips 40% plus headlight globe, just haven't taken out at night yet to see the difference.   I also bought leds to replace the parkers but the did not fit in the bulb holders too well as the are bulkier on the sides but looking again at the Philips globes as there are some better ones there.

Parkers - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2PC-PHILIPS-6000K-WHITE-LED-CANBUS-ERRORFREE-T10-194-168-W5W-BULBS-FOR-EURO-CARS-/182205328329?hash=item2a6c48abc9:g:Is8AAOSwGXtXhxTp (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2PC-PHILIPS-6000K-WHITE-LED-CANBUS-ERRORFREE-T10-194-168-W5W-BULBS-FOR-EURO-CARS-/182205328329?hash=item2a6c48abc9:g:Is8AAOSwGXtXhxTp)

Tail light - http://www.philips.com.au/c-p/12836REDB2/vision-led-car-lamp#see-all-benefits (http://www.philips.com.au/c-p/12836REDB2/vision-led-car-lamp#see-all-benefits)
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on August 13, 2016, 11:10:08 AM
Still waiting on the Queen to mail me my new orange philips bulb for the headlight.
Anyone know...is she out of town skydiving again?
I heard she got hooked on that after the London jump with 007.
Stig
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: PaulF on August 13, 2016, 11:32:42 AM
Haven't done a night ride yet Stig to see how the new globe rates but I did get to see it's reflection in the rear panels of cars whilst at the traffic lights and there certainly was an orange glow around the outside of the light.
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on August 14, 2016, 01:32:37 AM
Haven't done a night ride yet Stig to see how the new globe rates but I did get to see it's reflection in the rear panels of cars whilst at the traffic lights and there certainly was an orange glow around the outside of the light.
Orange glow.
Wonder if that's legal?
Would be cool if I got arrested on a scooter!
They'd have to stop me first.
I'd do an OJ Slow Escape at 30mph through the State Park....News Helicopters, Stop-Sticks, waving fans, a Dream Team of ambulance chasers, etc. !! Serpentining (Counter-Steering) would make it hard to shoot out my City Grips. 
Blame it on the Queen.
Stig
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: PaulF on August 14, 2016, 09:55:39 AM
Not a strong orange glow but more like a tint around the outside.  On another note I went for a night ride tonight and did not think it was 40% better or that it was much better than the stock globe at all.  Really is a shocking light as I had a lot of trouble seeing potholes and such.  Awaiting your review when you get yours Stig.
Title: Re: {DIY} replaced LIKE running lights w/LED
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on August 14, 2016, 10:35:54 AM
Well....weak + 40% = ?
Ah shoot.
Yeah my LIKE200I does not go AT SPEED on night rides down wooded streets after a storm.....even well known streets.
Never on unknown roads after dark.
Is especially bad into on-coming car lights.
One thing I've considered doing is cranking the high beam down onto the road...full time.
IF it can be adjusted that far.
Fork mounted LED pods are used by some....but don't know how far they light the road.
Big night rides. ...I take the twin lighted Burgman. Powerful lights!
I will report after I get.
Thanks for info.
Stig