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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: bleys on March 16, 2013, 02:38:34 AM
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Okay people,
How about sharing with us what you really like and don't like about your current ride. I have a 2009 Xciting 250Ri. I like that it is fuel injected, has disc brakes front and rear, adjustable rear suspension, integrated turn signals (not on stalks), and the LED taillight. Despite it's weight, it handles well at low speeds, is stable on the highway, and accelerates quickly to about 60 mph. I also like the loud turn signals - I never forget to turn them off. What I don't like is that the seat is slightly too high, top-end speed is about 72 mph at redline, and the headlight on low beam is a little too dim at night - I would prefer a dual headlight system. I also wish the underseat storage was a little larger. That's it....overall I love my Xciting. How about the rest of you?
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Likes about my Super 8 125cc:
1. Looks... especially when I'm on it ... ;)
2. Handling (firm rear shocks)
3. big 14" tires
4. Size.. not too big and not too small
5. good top speed ... around 60 mph.
6. very good front brakes
7. Thick plastic panels
8. Good paint finish
9. Smooooth engine
10. Very easy to maintain
Don't like...
1. Poor headlights
2. Bouncy ride on rough roads
3. Average acceleration
4. Poor rear brakes
5. Comes with glass fuses (but changed to blade fuses already)
6. Slippery original tires
7. Seat slopes forward... not comfortable
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I don't have much to dislike on Agility 125. The only thing I don't on is the seat cover is not like its little 50cc Agility. The 50 has a backrest for the rider. The 125 seat cover is one long one.
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Thanks for sharing, guys...@ Vivo - I've always thought the Super 8s - either 125 or 150 looked like fun, useful scooters. Almost wish I had bought one, but I need to be able to get on the Interstate at times and the Xciting is a little more highway capable. Still for secondary highways and city streets, I bet the Super 8 is a blast. And both it and the Agility seem to be good do-everything scooters at a great price.
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I own the Super 8 150cc like Vivo. BTW....I like your post that it the Super 8 looks great "with you on it" Too funny! I really can't complain about both my Kymco's (GTI300) One thing Kymco can NEVER get right is their seats! They are way too hard! But the upside is the hold-up very well over time. I must admit....I love my GTI300...but I find the "look" of he scoot just ok myself. I really dig the look of the SYM Citicom 300i myself here:
http://alliancepowersports.com/models/citycom.html (http://alliancepowersports.com/models/citycom.html)
Other then that...I'm fine with Kymco. If you need to take care of your seat issue look here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0041CG336/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1UV1W2BXAHUJE (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0041CG336/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1UV1W2BXAHUJE)
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I like my 300i downtown for the power and good for back roads and the super slab up to 85 mph. had to install HID lights now they are perfect,. low beam, cant focus the high beam, so I will reinstall old system for high beam,. and the seat in progress,. will fix ?????
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Im just happy to have a scoot that gets me from point A to point B......With very little problems,,,,,,,,
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Things I like about my Like 200i:
Price,
Reliability,
Classic look,
Decent top speed,
Acceleration,
and Gas mileage.
Things I dislike about the Like 200i:
Difficulty in obtaining a maintenance manual (according to Cyclepedia that should change soon),
Small gas tank,
Battery (went through 2 OEMs in 6 months),
Service parts hard to find,
and Digital clock/calendar (it shows 0:00 - 0:59 when displaying the hour:minutes of 12 and the calendar will usually jump a month after a day or two of being set).
All-in-all its been a good scooter.
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My Peoples 200 is small enough to fit sideways in my garage, fast enough to get me on and off a highway if I absolutely have to, has a good amount of storage with the bag on the back of the bike and good weather protection from the full wind screen.
On the down side, the wind screen now rattles a good amount from vibrations, the scoot isn't fast enough with top end of 57 mph to stay on a highway more then 5 min. and the MPG can be as high as 80 and as low as 57MPG which isn't that great when you think about it.
all in all it's tons of fun and I wouldn't give it up unless a crash changed my mind.
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Ah, another thing about the Super 8 is the low price... great price.... ;)
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Everything Troutbum said, except my battery has been fine and my dealer has done a good job providing service items(so far). The clock/calendar thing is the weird one since it seems to prefer certain months. This month(March) it has been dead- on accurate!
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I love my Agility 125. Chris is the mechanic at Vegas Motor Sports and he uses nothing but AMS oil products for my bike. Having a good mechanic is key to any scooter one has if you do want to do it yourself. This goes out to Chris and Bob if they check this forum out. Love you guys.
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I forgot to mention that you can put two people on my 125 unlike my last bike which was a 50cc Roketa(Cheap Chinese) scooter that could not hold two people. If two people were on this bike it would go very slow. I know the book says the bike does change when you put two people on there which is true. I was still doing 45-50mph when there was two people on there.
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I have an 08 Xciting 500.
Most of the likes and dislikes have already been covered and it's nice to know I'm not the only one with issues with the headlights.
But I'll add to the list anyway. I do like the fact that I can sit on the bike and fill the gas tank.
I don't like the fact the tank is so small. Only 2.1 US gallons??? Really???
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Only two thangs that are a minor drag with the Honda PCX, so far.
1.) The horn switch and turn signal switch positions are the reverse of every other bike I've ever ridden;
2.) The placement of the key switch is such that using a normal-sized (3/4"-1") key ring can make it difficult to change the switch's position.
Otherwise, quite happy with it.
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Everything Troutbum said, except my battery has been fine and my dealer has done a good job providing service items(so far). The clock/calendar thing is the weird one since it seems to prefer certain months. This month(March) it has been dead- on accurate!
Yes, March is holding the date just fine so far. :)
The battery issue was weird. It was working fine then one day it struggled to start the scooter. After a few days of this it finally could not start no more. All along I had left it on a tender when not riding. The battery was 6 months old. The dealer gave me a new one under warranty and from the moment I hooked it up to the scooter it was a dead. Placed it on a tender for nearly 2 and a half days with no change. The dealer swapped it out under warranty, but this time with a Yausa. It has been starting fine ever since.
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Ah, another thing about the Super 8 is the low price... great price.... ;)
Vivo: The Super 8 has gone up yet another $100.00 this year to $2499.00 retail price here in the USA (it started @ $2299.00) I still think it's a soild value @ $2499.00, but not if it gets another increase next year. I mean you can score a SYM HD200 for $1,000 more & it's W/C, dual disc brakes & has 15.2HP vs. the Super 8 @ 9.39HP. Plus the SYM is still made in Taiwan. Both have 2-year warranties. I paid $2299.00 for my 2013 Super 8 that I purchased in November in Florida (that's before the Kymco increase) There is simply too much competition as the Chinese are getting much, much better with their QC.
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Vivo: The Super 8 has gone up yet another $100.00 this year to $2499.00 retail price here in the USA (it started @ $2299.00) I still think it's a soild value @ $2499.00, but not if it gets another increase next year. I mean you can score a SYM HD200 for $1,000 more & it's W/C, dual disc brakes & has 15.2HP vs. the Super 8 @ 9.39HP. Plus the SYM is still made in Taiwan. Both have 2-year warranties. I paid $2299.00 for my 2013 Super 8 that I purchased in November in Florida (that's before the Kymco increase) There is simply too much competition as the Chinese are getting much, much better with their QC.
In equivalent U.S. currency, I paid around $1,560.00 for my brand new 2012 Super 8.... Maybe that's because our country is nearer China... Competitor scoots like Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, etc. start in the $2,000.00 range... a brand new Agility costs $1,430.00... a brand new Chinese scoot starts in the $900.00 range
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In equivalent U.S. currency, I paid around $1,560.00 for my brand new 2012 Super 8.... Maybe that's because our country is nearer China... Competitor scoots like Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, etc. start in the $2,000.00 range... a brand new Agility costs $1,430.00... a brand new Chinese scoot starts in the $900.00 range
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Vivo: Wow those are great prices! I think it's because you simply have more competition in the Philippines then the US & as you mentioned the freight costs are lower. My guess there are scooters everywhere there!!! $1,560.00 for a Super 8? That's insane. I wonder is other things cost less there as well.
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I have a 2010 Yager 200 gt bought new.
Likes:
Nice ride, handling, power.
Cruises well at 55-65 mph.
Beautiful dashboard - excellent controls
Speedometer very accurate according to gps. A true rarity on a 2 wheeled vehicle.
Step through - flat floor
Nice finish and paint
Excellent fuel economy considering the performance (75-89 mpg USA)
Reliability (so far)
Tons of storage esp with my givi trunk
Not too big. Not too heavy
Good headlight
Kymco owner manual translated better than in the past
Ideally suited for both city and back roads travel
Stock windscreen works well. No need for a larger one at these speeds
Price $2999.00 + tax and prep. A bargain.
Dislikes:
Frequent oil and trans oil changes (common to most scoots)
Clock is difficult to reset
OIL Warning light that indicates time for an oil change (stupid)
Seat looks nice but only comfy for about an hour
Under seat light can....and will discharge the battery if seat left open.
That's about it. A wonderful purchase so far with unique features.
Wil B.
Broadview, IL
'71 Guzzi Ambassador
'91 Nighthawk
'04 Kymco Super 9
'10 Kymco Yager 200 gt
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Vivo: Wow those are great prices! I think it's because you simply have more competition in the Philippines then the US & as you mentioned the freight costs are lower. My guess there are scooters everywhere there!!! $1,560.00 for a Super 8? That's insane. I wonder is other things cost less there as well.
Almost everything is cheap except American stuff..you know..import taxes, etc... That's why lots of foreigners retire here... As for motorbikes, we have around 4 million registered motorcycles here in our small country... smaller than New Mexico....
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Kymco Agility 125
LIKES:
Good ergo's for my 6'3 frame
It's a "big" small scooter
Punchy enough to lane split and leave traffic well behind on city streets
Good top end at 60mph give or take, strong pull there on flat roads
Very good handling imo once the stock tires are changed. Even changing just the rear makes a dramatic difference
Good under seat storage. And its a wide seat
Easy to maintain and work on I am finding. And bulletproof reliable for 2 and 1/2 years
Only cost $1600OTD with full warranty
Ir's red. Red is the fastest color ;D
Honestly guys I can go on and on and on. I find little fault with this scooter. And not because its mine, it just hasn't any glaring shortcomings for a 125cc scooter
DISLIKES:
The instrument cluster borders on "not there," is outdated in style, and poorly lit at night
The "racing stripe" graphics on the leg shield. I took 'em off and put red reflective tape that matches the scoot
Could use a brighter, whiter headlight as well as a brighter tail light. Will get to it one day.
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What WilB said about the Yager, hated to trade it for the DT 300i. However,
Likes for the 300i:
More power! Does everything EASILY and QUIETLY!
Great panel sorta like the Burgman with two trip odometers and the oil change odometer. I use the oil odo for keeping an eye on fuel so I don't have to watch that light come on every 600 miles!
Good fit and finish.
Great access for radiator cap. Thoughtful access for PDI analyzer and seat latch cable adjustment.
Adjustable brake levers( did not know I needed them!)
Bigger wheels and tires!
Great handling, feels lighter than it is.
I am sure I will find more....
Dislikes:
Luggage rack nearly unusable.
Owner's manual marginal, incomplete.
OEM battery sucks.
I am sure I will find more.....
Karl
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Kymco Yager, Yeager, Ager - "Wait, What is it?!?!?!":
Likes:
- Headlights - NICE AND BRIGHT - especially on high beams
- Quick start
- Light - easy to handle and maneuver
- Disc breaks front and back
- Turn signals
- Its ugliness
- Instrument panel is large and easy to read
- Storage - holy cow there's tons of storage. And then there's the running board where I've stowed a couple 50lb bags of Oil Dry lol
- Helmet Lock
- Plastic body is easy to clean
- Maintenance is super easy
- Liquid cooled
- Great gas mileage
- Able to keep up with highway traffic
Dislikes:
- The name and sticker are just horrendous. When people ask me what I have, I say, "A Kymco." When they ask what model, I say, "175cc, liquid cooled." lol I've learned to keep it simple after too many conversations, and too many, "What's?
- It's freaking UGLY (sometimes I like it and sometimes I despise it)
- Condensation on instrument panel on hot days
- Seat, the damn seat, ow my prostate! When I was riding several hundred miles a week, I was feeling it on my man parts. I had to go to the doctors a couple times, too. lol I tried EVERYTHING to make that damn thing more comfortable, but nothing worked completely. It would just allow me more time to ride before it felt like my area was going to burn off in pain.
- Vapor locks in warm to hot temps too damn easy. It's simple to just leave the cap off, but it's still in extra step, at times that just annoys me.
The pro's for me definitely outweigh the cons. I have to say my biggest con is that my dealer finds it humorous to answer any questions about my scooter. I gave them about 5 grand in cash, you'd think they'd love me, right? Well, one advantage of this is that it made me seek out this forum!
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- It's freaking UGLY (sometimes I like it and sometimes I despise it)
Lol! That's why I spent a lot of time trying to justify that I should get one.... just can't ...