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Scooters - 125 to 300 => People GT 300i => Topic started by: mrmike on March 04, 2013, 09:53:13 AM
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I decided to pick up my new GTI300 early so I can start to work on it now. I have two questions for the forum members
1. Dr. Pulley sliders. Members suggested I go with 14gram sliders. I need to know the complete size (_ _ x 14gram) to order them. Also need a
recommended site to buy them from.
2. I wanted a removeable top case with a back rest. I bought a Shad SH40 cargo case. The question is if anyone knows of a adaptor kit to mount
it, or does the universal plate have to be modified. (Just gotta scoot article on mounting a Shad 48 topcase on a GTI300)
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Dr pulley size: 20x12mm, 14gr worked great in my DT300.
I ordered 4 times from these guys, no issues, highly recommend them:
http://www.buggypartsnw.com/ (http://www.buggypartsnw.com/)
Forget the web shop, contact them by e-mail to check if they have them in stock.
I paid with paypal all 4 times.
Your topcase might fit on the carrier on the back, maybe just need longer bolts.
You'll have to try to see, but shad DOES make a topcase mount that's sure to fit:
http://www.shad.es/en/shad-world/products/fittings/kymco/people-gti-125/c12mar11mod437/ (http://www.shad.es/en/shad-world/products/fittings/kymco/people-gti-125/c12mar11mod437/)
Backrest for your SH40 is model "D0RI60", it fits on SH37, SH40, SH40 cargo, SH45 and SH49.
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Cortez Thank you for the quick and accurate reply. It's great to have folks with your knowledge as members of this forum
Dr pulley size: 20x12mm, 14gr worked great in my DT300.
I ordered 4 times from these guys, no issues, highly recommend them:
http://www.buggypartsnw.com/ (http://www.buggypartsnw.com/)
Forget the web shop, contact them by e-mail to check if they have them in stock.
I paid with paypal all 4 times.
Your topcase might fit on the carrier on the back, maybe just need longer bolts.
You'll have to try to see, but shad DOES make a topcase mount that's sure to fit:
http://www.shad.es/en/shad-world/products/fittings/kymco/people-gti-125/c12mar11mod437/ (http://www.shad.es/en/shad-world/products/fittings/kymco/people-gti-125/c12mar11mod437/)
Backrest for your SH40 is model "D0RI60", it fits on SH37, SH40, SH40 cargo, SH45 and SH49.
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MrMike: I cannot help you with the sliders as I keep mine all stock on my GTI300. I did write down those Dr. Pulley sizes for future reference.
I can help out on the Shad top case scenario (somewhat) I know for a fact, that if your Kymco dealer purchases the Shad 40 Liter top case from Kymco (not Shad direct), the backrest comes standard from Kymco. I bought a Shad 33 liter for my Super 8 150cc scooter down in Florida (I keep it @ my parents home whne I come down for a visit) from the dealer & it saved me a few bucks.
Example:
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s529/Alockbee/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20ALEX-PC/AlexScotter_211-9-12009.jpg (http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s529/Alockbee/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20ALEX-PC/AlexScotter_211-9-12009.jpg)
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The only SHAD topcase that comes with a backrest is the top of the line SH50.
This one on the SH33 is a SHAD backrest, not a Kymco backrest (they actually make backrests that
don't go on the topcase but the scooter itself) and if you got it with the topcase you should thank
your dealer, it's a an optional extra that costs around $40.
You can also add colored lids on the topcase for another $40 or so on any SHAD topcase other then
SH26.
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Cortez: In all due respect....My Kymco dealer told me that "all" Shad Top Cases purchased thru Kymco comes with the backrest standard! That's how Shad provides Kymco/Shad with their Top Cases.
It saved me like $50.00 overall vs. buying the Shad 33 by itself & scoring the backrest on my own. I called my local dealer (20 minutes ago) here in MA. (Cycles 128 in Beverly, MA.) & he just confirmed the same thing. So...If you buy the top case thru the Kymco dealer, the backrest comes with it. Do you live the USA?
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every where I seen advertizements on the GT top case is standard, equiptment be cause of low storage under seat ,. and you may not need a back rest if your sweety has a jacket with armor padding in the back,. I read that somewere,. on this forum,.
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Cortez: In all due respect....My Kymco dealer told me that "all" Shad Top Cases purchased thru Kymco comes with the backrest standard! That's how Shad provides Kymco/Shad with their Top Cases.
That's new and market specific, as I already said.
New Kymco scooters will be arriving without SHAD markings on the topcases, there'll be a KYMCO badge on the case.
It saved me like $50.00 overall vs. buying the Shad 33 by itself & scoring the backrest on my own. I called my local dealer (20 minutes ago) here in MA. (Cycles 128 in Beverly, MA.) & he just confirmed the same thing. So...If you buy the top case thru the Kymco dealer, the backrest comes with it. Do you live the USA?
No, I don't.
That's why I said it was market specific.
Kymco made a deal with SHAD some time ago and will be supplying some of the scooters with preinstalled topcases now, like
they did with the GTI before and Agility City, but now it's gonna be a SHAD case, not the plasticky cheapo one they gave away before.
KymcoUSA was already importing SHAD topcases BEFORE this deal between KYMCO and SHAD was made, so in USA, any combination
is possible and it's probably down to the importer's good will.
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every where I seen advertizements on the GT top case is standard, equiptment be cause of low storage under seat ,. and you may not need a back rest if your sweety has a jacket with armor padding in the back,. I read that somewere,. on this forum,.
It might even get in the way, depending on the angle it was installed at.
My GF doesn't like the backrest on the SH50, it pokes her in the back, but it's not parallel with her back,
so that's the real issue here.
GTi was previously supplied with these topcases:
(http://www.justgottascoot.com/images/PeopleGTi300SHADInstall01.jpg)
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Cortez...Are you refering to top caes that "already" comes with Kymco Scooters (i.e. GTI300, Like 200i etc? Here is the US?) If so....That's not what I'm refering to @ all. Here is the USA...If you purchase a Shad (branded) top case thru Kymco...they all will all come with a backrest standard (or least all that can acommodate one) That's a Shad backest OEM, not an aftermarket one. I'm sorry....I am not making myself clear here?
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Yeah, I understand.
I'm just stating that that's the importers choice, not what the topcase actually looks like if you purchase it
somewhere else. People will look at these pictures and posts and assume they'll get the backrest when in
reality you're more likely not to get it.
Just like the colored top lid or the extra brake light.
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I just got my 20x12 14g sliders from buggypartsnw.com. On my postal scale it shows them at 10g each, but all 6 at once show 110g. That is 13.9g each. Why would the total weight be different ? I'm assuming they are 13.9g because that's what I ordered, but I wanted some input before I install them.
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Either your math is off, or the scales.. or your post.. since they should be 20x12, not 20x8.. and
6 of them, not 8.
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:oMy bad they are 20x12. When I talked to the guy at buggypartsnw.com, he asked me if the variator had 6 or 8 rollers. I don't have the scooter yet so I did not know. He came back and said I have 8 and that is what he sent me. So I should have 6 sliders that are approximately 13g each. Correct? If so and I get an accurate weight of 14g on these sliders I have, can I just use 6 of these or are they the wrong size?
Either your math is off, or the scales.. or your post.. since they should be 20x12, not 20x8.. and
6 of them, not 8.
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20x12, 14g each is what most are using.
I was about to order 13gr, but then got a different variator instead.
You'd get more revs everywhere with those but it'll still work well.
What concerns me is that you maybe got 8 weights 10.5gr each, which is about the same as 6 weights
14gr each.. that would explain why your scales don't say 14gr. If that's the case, return them.
I haven't heard of a 8 weight People either.
If they're 20x12mm, they'll work what ever the weight is, but if they're just 10.5 grams each, you'll have
the engine bouncing off the limiter.
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20x12, 14g each is what most are using.
I was about to order 13gr, but then got a different variator instead.
You'd get more revs everywhere with those but it'll still work well.
What concerns me is that you maybe got 8 weights 10.5gr each, which is about the same as 6 weights
14gr each.. that would explain why your scales don't say 14gr. If that's the case, return them.
I haven't heard of a 8 weight People either.
If they're 20x12mm, they'll work what ever the weight is, but if they're just 10.5 grams each, you'll have
the engine bouncing off the limiter.
Thanks for the reply. I'll take the sliders to the Post Office tomorrow and get a accurate weight on them. If they are 14g, I'm all set. If not I'll contact Mike at Buggyparts and get them exchanged.
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I being a landscape designer am not right in the head but was told by my dealer that the GT300i takes 8 rollers so Mike you are in business. I am going to try 15g. sliders after the thread with the Downtown guys started talking how the newer variator in the Dowtown and the GT are the same and there is debate about 14g plus or minus. The stock rollers are 15.4 g so sliders due to their shape usually work better a bit lighter. I considered 14g but was worried she might get too busy at interstate speeds. I will know soon as I hope to change them out this weekend. I can only imagine the condition the originals look like at 14K :o
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the 300i gt has 8 wt.s 20/12 14 gr. X 8 ,. I picked up a scale at harbor freight for 11.65 that goes down to .i grams , a lot of scales just have one gr., and it works perfect for weighing sliders or rollers.
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Well I stand corrected, I knew the People and newer DT had a new variator, but no idea it was with
8 weights.
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I am going to try 15g. sliders after the thread with the Downtown guys started talking how the newer variator in the Dowtown and the GT are the same and there is debate about 14g plus or minus. The stock rollers are 15.4 g so sliders due to their shape usually work better a bit lighter. I considered 14g but was worried she might get too busy at interstate speeds. I will know soon as I hope to change them out this weekend. I can only imagine the condition the originals look like at 14K :o
Actually, the sliders most noticeable difference is at speeds at around 60mph and more where the shape
comes into play and lowers the revs. You go for lighter then stock with them not because of their shape,
but for the same reason you'd get lighter normal rollers - to raise the revs at full throttle and at lower
speeds for better response and acceleration.
Even with 14gr sliders in my DT, I got 500 revs less at 60mph and above, so there's no chance of it getting "busy"
at interstate speeds, you'd get lower revs probably with 13gr too.
With 15 compared to 15.5, the difference in acceleration won't be that big, and you might loose a bit
of top speed. Mine dropped by about 3mph with 14gr weights since the bike couldn't rev out past
7500 any more. Then another 3mph for the big windscreen and another 3mph for the topcase.
Now it's as fast as some 250s.. :(
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I being a landscape designer am not right in the head but was told by my dealer that the GT300i takes 8 rollers so Mike you are in business. I am going to try 15g. sliders after the thread with the Downtown guys started talking how the newer variator in the Dowtown and the GT are the same and there is debate about 14g plus or minus. The stock rollers are 15.4 g so sliders due to their shape usually work better a bit lighter. I considered 14g but was worried she might get too busy at interstate speeds. I will know soon as I hope to change them out this weekend. I can only imagine the condition the originals look like at 14K :o
Scootaloot
Thanks for the info. Please let me know how she runs with the new sliders. I'm installing a Biondi windshield and a new removeable Shad topcase before I do my sliders. I probably won't get to ride the scoot before April because of the weather. I appreciate any additional input before I install the sliders.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll take the sliders to the Post Office tomorrow and get a accurate weight on them. If they are 14g, I'm all set. If not I'll contact Mike at Buggyparts and get them exchanged.
Good news! My scale was off and my sliders are 14's. Will be installing them after break-in.
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Mike, finally got around to putting in sliders today. Due to the beautiful weather 30's and wet snow I only did a very brief ride. 14g should be good :). The 15's I put in will be ok for my type of riding which includes a lot of 50-60mph. The amazing thing was the original rollers at 14.5k were still almost perfect. The set up on the kymco is much easier to work on compared to my old BV250. The air filter is locked up tighter than Fort Knox and there is a silly push pin by the passenger foot rest but other than that very straight forward.
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Mike, finally got around to putting in sliders today. Due to the beautiful weather 30's and wet snow I only did a very brief ride. 14g should be good :). The 15's I put in will be ok for my type of riding which includes a lot of 50-60mph. The amazing thing was the original rollers at 14.5k were still almost perfect. The set up on the kymco is much easier to work on compared to my old BV250. The air filter is locked up tighter than Fort Knox and there is a silly push pin by the passenger foot rest but other than that very straight forward.
Thanks for the reply. Now if the weather would cooperate!