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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: TroutBum on January 03, 2013, 10:26:09 PM
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When I am done riding I plug my scooter into a battery tender. This past weekend I went to start my scooter ('12 Like 200i) and it barely started. It turn the starter motor a fraction before pausing a moment whereby the lights and clock went completely out then a moment later it fired up. I shut it down and tried starting it again, but it did not have enough juice to restart the scooter. I placed it on the battery tender and it took 2 hours to go from red status to flashing green and about another hour before turning solid green. Anyone else experiencing issues with their Kymco battery? My dealer says the battery on the Like is of the cheap type. I am debating if I should get a repalcement under warranty or buy a YUSA and be done with it.
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How cold is it where you are? Here in South Central Indiana, it's been close or below freezing now for a week.
I also have a small charger on my Xciting 250. Let me tell you, it doesn't want to start and the battery runs
down fast. The drive is covered in ice and snow anyway, so I'm just waiting. My experience with Kymco's
(X3) is they are somewhat cold blooded and some take forever to get warmed up.
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I live in San Jose, CA. Night time temps have been in the low 30s for the past week with day time highs in the low 50s. The scooter is in the garage which dips down into the 40s overnight.
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Hello I have had my Like 200i on the tender pretty much since November and there have been a few days here in Oregon when I have been able to ride it. The temps have been low 30s-40s but the scoot has started on first spin each time. I am running 10w-40 Amsoil scooter oil and the starter spins pretty easily.
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I think I must have a bad cell or two. I'll know Saturday for sure. Called my dealer and they started the process by filing a warranty claim. They said to bring the battery in and they will test it, but they too think its a defective battery.
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My battery went flat and then wasnt great at keeping a charge so i swapped it for a new one. It was 3 years old and the same one from new tho.
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A lot of shops don't initialized the batteries properly so they don't last like they should.
I'm surprised the battery is covered under the warranty! The tender is a good idea but
I had a battery loose all it's water by being on the tender too much as it seems to cycle
each time it's connected and charge for a while even though the battery is full...
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the batterys have a cranking charge to theam. that part of the battery has to be strong enough to turn the starter over.when the cranking charge is bad so is the battery.
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Should I stick with a Kymco battery or buy another brand and waive the warranty replacement?
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Should I stick with a Kymco battery or buy another brand and waive the warranty replacement?
wave the warrenty just get a better battery. kymcos warranty suck. been there done that.But I stell love my scoot.
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+1 waive warranty replacement.
Had mine go bad on the Super8 150 while still within warranty, but replaced the Kymco standard battery (YTX7A-BS) with an aftermarket one (YTZ10S) that was physically nearly the same size, had more capacity, and was cheaper to boot!.
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I'd take the free batt and sell it on E-bay to get some of the money back from buying a new better batt.
The original owner of my scoot Peoples s200 changed the batt out after 7 months, he said it was always dead.
I keep the scoot on a tender now that temps are below 40 most of the time. Before that I'd tender it over the weekend and leave it off all week. In summer I've not had a problem.
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TroutBum......My battery lost all it's water staying on the battery tender (winter). I had the same problems trying to start my scoot. I pulled the battery and the cells were pretty dry. I filled with distilled H2O and let sit for a few hours. The scoot started right up! No problems since.
Check the fluid level in the battery twice a year especially if on a battery tender over the winter. There should be no need to put on the tender between rides unless there is a charging problem, or unless the scoot sits for more than several weeks at a time. Mine easily lasts a month without putting on the tender.
Wil B.
Broadview, IL
'71 Guzzi Ambassador
'91 Nighthawk
'10 Kymco Yager 200gt
'04 Kymco Super 9
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There should be no need to put on the tender between rides unless there is a charging problem, or unless the scoot sits for more than several weeks at a time
+1
I dont know anyone who uses a tender for any of their bikes or scoots.
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When I first had the scoot I never put it on the tender. I was riding it so much that I figured it would stay charged easily and the temps here were warmer. My dealer suggested the use of a tender for the winter due to lower voltage levels in the cold and NO he did not sell me the tender! When I lived in California I did not use one although many of my bikes had kick starters...Len
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If you use the bike regularly there is no need for a tender. Here in the great white north
the weather could be good all season or cold until August. If the scoot sits for a week or
two it can hurt the battery. I never used one either until I crashed my dirt bike and the
battery died from sitting and they wanted $80 for a 6 AH battery!
I'd take the free battery, why not? You at least have new ones for 2 years then you can upgrade!
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TroutBum......My battery lost all it's water staying on the battery tender (winter). I had the same problems trying to start my scoot. I pulled the battery and the cells were pretty dry. I filled with distilled H2O and let sit for a few hours. The scoot started right up! No problems since.
Check the fluid level in the battery twice a year especially if on a battery tender over the winter. There should be no need to put on the tender between rides unless there is a charging problem, or unless the scoot sits for more than several weeks at a time. Mine easily lasts a month without putting on the tender.
Wil B.
Broadview, IL
filling with water is ok but they do sale battery acid for 10.00 at walmart works pretty good.my hold battery is stell working on it.
'71 Guzzi Ambassador
'91 Nighthawk
'10 Kymco Yager 200gt
'04 Kymco Super 9
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My battery went pretty quick last winter. I only use it to go to the gym in the winter and then it is only a 1 mile ride. Now I haven't been able to ride since Christmas eve. It really doesn't get charged very well. I put in a new battery and now keep it on the tender during the winter. When the weather gets better and I can ride more, I'll stop using the tender.
Richard L.
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if you are only doing short rides the battery wont charge realy good the long rides is what charges the battery.I do mostly short rides in the winter then put it on a charger twice a week mybe just ounce a week.
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+1
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Not wanting to wait I took my battery in to an auto parts store. The load test showed my battery needs replacing so I will see my dealer for a warranty replacement. The guy at the auto parts store said to be sure that the battery gets the proper initial charge. Charging systems on scooters and many motorcycles can only maintain a battery. Short rides decrease a battery's ability and even if you go fo a long ride will not bring a battery up to a full charge, but maintain the battery charge rate at the time you started the engine.
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The correct way to initialize a battery is to fill it with acid and let it rest a while (to cool down)
then charge it at the 1/10th rate for 24 hours or so (till fully charged). Many bike shops dump in
the acid then slap it into the bike, it's lifespan will be shortened up to 1/2!
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Not wanting to wait I took my battery in to an auto parts store. The load test showed my battery needs replacing so I will see my dealer for a warranty replacement. The guy at the auto parts store said to be sure that the battery gets the proper initial charge. Charging systems on scooters and many motorcycles can only maintain a battery. Short rides decrease a battery's ability and even if you go fo a long ride will not bring a battery up to a full charge, but maintain the battery charge rate at the time you started the engine.
this is all true. But you stell need to throw the battery on a charger or maintainer once in a while just to bring it up to full charge.
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It took a while to get to my dealer for a battery replacement. They tested the battery and sure enough as the auto parts store told me it needed replacing. The dealer handed me a warranty replacement Kymco battery. When I got home and hooked it up I noticed the head light was really dim. When I hit the starter button it made a slight clicking sound and nothing more. !@#$% Kymco battery! It was just my luck that it was Saturday night and the dealer had closed for the day and would not be reopening until Tuesday. A pisser since this was a three day weekend that had clear blue skies and temps in the 60s in San Jose, CA. Returned to the dealer on Tuesday and sure enough the test showed it was a bad battery, again. The dealer said enough of the OEM crap and placed on the charger a Yuasa battery. They told me to come back the next day so it can charge proper. I picked up the battery. Hopefully I will have time before this weekend to hook it up. I really hope this is the last of my battery woes.
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The replacement Yuasa battery did the trick. The scooter fired right up. 8)
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The manual for my new Super8 150 says the battery is "maintenance free." Is there something I need to be doing after all ???
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The manual for my new Super8 150 says the battery is "maintenance free." Is there something I need to be doing after all ???
Nope, you should be fine. Unless you leave the scoot unused for a while the battery ought to be ok. If you plan on leaving it sitting then remove the battery and/or use a battery tender to keep it from fully discharging and going dud.
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The manual for my new Super8 150 says the battery is "maintenance free." Is there something I need to be doing after all ???
Just make some visual inspections once in a while... Some bad batteries become bloated.. check for corrosion on the terminals and loose nuts/connections.... While you at it, check your fuse holders for loose connections and corrosion. The fuses are just next to the battery.
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I just hate it when I get all bloated and my nuts get loose....oh, on my battery too.
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