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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mike Green on December 24, 2012, 03:16:28 AM
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Learning CCuuurrrrvvvvveeeeee!?!?!?!
Back in the fall of 2011 I made the decision to buy a maxiscooter. After 2 back surgeries my Neurosurgeon told me that if I continued to ride horses I would end up in a wheelchair.(I still have 2 of my beloved horses. I call them "Pasture Candy".) and I picked the maxiscooter because my left leg does'nt move when I ask it to so gear changes on a motorcycle were out. Had my eye on the Burgie 650 but the Suzuki dealer told me they had sold the last one and would not be getting any more in this year. I had loooked at the Honda dealer across the street and was also considering a new Silverwing or Majesty 400 but when the Suzi dealer showed me the Xciting 500Ri it was love at first paycheck. I could not believe the price and the value. Went home and got online and could find nothing but praise for Kymco products. So I went back the next day and closed the deal for a brand new maxiscoot for $5600. Down from $6200. The learning curve began with you guys. I would start a post about not being able to make right turns and Vivo would teach me how to "trust my left side" and it worked! The more I tried the more proficient I became and the less I dropped my scooter. At this same time of learning how to ride my wife witnessed all the falls and the scraped knees and elbows. She told me that everytime I left the house on the scooter she was a nervous wreck and then one night I did not come home... until very late assisted by 2 very kind, as Vivo calls them "My road angels" And I think everyone knows the story... the deer ran in front of me and I was nailed... broken ribs, knees, foot etc. So, if I wanted to ride I could buy a kit and convert the Xciting into a trike, or buy a Can Am Spyder. A 3 wheeled MC coming out of Canada, getting good reviews. However, The resemblance ended with the Right hand grip...the throttle. All brakes are controlled by a single foot brake. The transmission is a semi-automatic 5 speed...SE5. You have a small paddle on the Left hand grip and to change gears when you get to the correct RPM you manually push the + button or when the RPM's drop to 2500 or below like coming to a stop sign the engine will start downshifting on it's own or if you remember you can manually pull the + button towards you and if the RPM's are low enough you can maually downshift. Did I mention that this 3-wheeled monster had the 2 wheels in front and a large wheel in the rear connected by a drive belt. This bad-boy also has a 998cc Rotax engine with 106 horse power and a top speed of 200 mph. So once again I'm trying to learn on something that is too big and powerfull for me. I will keep you guys informed of my misadventures and smart moves too like ATGATT and the MSF course next month. But here I go again. Merry Christmas
Mike
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Mike, at 200mph, you'll be home before any deer can even think of crossing the road.... ;D ;D ;D That's positive thinking!!! ;)
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Vivo,
Remember when you taught me about trusting my Left side and that the problem was not a right turn but in my head because my dominant side was my right side and I would not trust my Left side to get me through the turn? I became so arogant and told you I did'nt need your lectures on human neuropathology!? I was eminantly qualified to figure it out myself, you and Zombie let me have it! and Ce called me an ass hole! and I was! I have learned so much from this forum. I still think Word's Blue Monkey's eyes can induce psychotic symptoms! I'm glad he took that thing done. And where's Syl? and I never see anything from Old Geezer anymore? Mr. 08 is still around.
He is still very mentally stimulating but seems to have his anger issues under control which I miss. You know this is a very therapeutic and Zen-like group of guys and occasional girly. I miss my XC500Ri
Mike
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Mike I've got to ask, why such a big and powerful bike/trike? at almost 1 liter you've got twice as much under butt as you did before. I know the extra wheel will take slightly more to push but an extra 500cc?
I'm no expert but I'm almost positive the CanAm comes in a smaller size I thought 300 and 500. Don't misunderstand me here I think the 1,000 cc is great, you'll be able to cruise at any speed you wish and the eng will relax at idle speed even on the highway.
My Toyota only has about 120HP and does way over 100MPH.
Here is my tip to you, don't forget to up shift, that engine may so quiet and refined that you won't hear the growl and over rev her.
About those anger issues of mine, wait until Axy spouts off about something again and you'll see my rage once more. (Sorry Axy, your just an easy target).
Enjoy the new ride, say hello to the Mrs. for us, we like that she takes care of you.
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About those anger issues of mine, wait until Axy spouts off about something again and you'll see my rage once more. (Sorry Axy, your just an easy target).
Well, honestly, if you get enraged so easily, then you are easy target, not me. Ponder it a bit.
Mike, your trike does not have top speed of 200 mph, more like 110-115 mph.
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Well, honestly, if you get enraged so easily, then you are easy target, not me. Ponder it a bit.
Mike, your trike does not have top speed of 200 mph, more like 110-115 mph.
I found the 13 model says gov limited to 110 MPH and a 12 model from the UK limited at 125 MPH
26 MPG or so.
Enraged, who said anything about ENRAGED, that's your word not mine, I said ANGER and that's even a joke.
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I found the 13 model says gov limited to 110 MPH and a 12 model from the UK limited at 125 MPH
26 MPG or so.
Enraged, who said anything about ENRAGED, that's your word not mine, I said ANGER and that's even a joke.
Now you seem to be angry again.
You should work on that.
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I feel better about you going 100 miles an hour on the Can Am, Mike, so find a good stretch of open highway when there's no cops around and light traffic on a warm sunny day, and get it under your belt.
I've had the 500 X up to 160 kilometers an hour, and couldn't catch up to my son on the Silverwing, but it was like flying an airplane without a cockpit, or any wings, and only about a couple of inches of the wheels touching the ground.
Now I'm not even curious how it feels to go faster, unless I actually get an airplane.
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I feel better about you going 100 miles an hour on the Can Am, Mike, so find a good stretch of open highway when there's no cops around and light traffic on a warm sunny day, and get it under your belt.
I've had the 500 X up to 160 kilometers an hour, and couldn't catch up to my son on the Silverwing, but it was like flying an airplane without a cockpit, or any wings, and only about a couple of inches of the wheels touching the ground.
Now I'm not even curious how it feels to go faster, unless I actually get an airplane.
Scoots, as I said many times, use low quality components and their setup is not well suited for high speeds. Don't know about extremes like Gilera GP800 etc, I guess they could be slightly better, but your average <650 cc scoot is close to pure crap when it comes to performance.
Sport touring bikes are actually quite comfortable at high speed on highways. 130-140 hp bike feels quite safe under low traffic conditions at 220-240 km/h.
I would compare 240 km/h on a sports tourer to 100 km/h on my People 250S. I have tried also 295 km/h on Honda CBR 1000RR, but only once, not on my bike, it is not that much different than 240...
p.s. Of course, 240 km/h is quite high speed and better don't use brakes too much or lean too much and better judge well in advance if that next mild left hander on a highway has to be taken at 210 km/h or 220 km/h. ;D :D :)
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Mike,
Sounds like you are already enjoying your new ride. I'm happy that it is a positive experience for you so far. Remember, it doesn't matter what you ride, it only matters that you ride. Merry Christmas, Mike.
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Wow Axy;
Thanks for that little moment of reality testing. Just because the speedometer max's out at 200 mph does not mean it will go 200 mph. Thanks for correcting me on that. Who knows, I may have been riding around at 200 mph without your intervening for me. Actually the quote was from one of the bike rags on remarks about how easy it is to get a stock Spyder up to 200 mph with only some simple mods like a Hindle exhaust and manifold and a KLN cold air induction system and a few other low cost upgrades but you are so correct; my trike does not go 200 mph and I am sorry if I was dishonest in the claims. I quess I was just a little too enthusiastic about my new sweet heart. 08, almost all of us with passive-aggressive tendencies see rage issues in others... not ourselves. You are doing great! Don't let this anal-retentive Serb get your goat, he's too much fun. Merry Christmas one and all,
Mike
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Wow Axy;
Thanks for that little moment of reality testing. Just because the speedometer max's out at 200 mph does not mean it will go 200 mph. Thanks for correcting me on that. Who knows, I may have been riding around at 200 mph without your intervening for me.
We wouldn't want something to happen to you, otherwise wifey the dearest might get a rash again.
Actually the quote was from one of the bike rags on remarks about how easy it is to get a stock Spyder up to 200 mph with only some simple mods like a Hindle exhaust and manifold and a KLN cold air induction system
Actually, it has 106 hp. This vehicle would need around 300 hp to reach 200 mph.
So, better wake up and account for laws of physics. No exhaust, manifold and cold air induction system can triple the power output. Not even with fairy dust sprinkled all over.
Don't let this anal-retentive Serb get your goat, he's too much fun. Merry Christmas one and all,
Mike
I wonder how tiny brain one should have to bring "nation" argument as something significant, after claiming stupid things like 200 mph with 106 hp vehicle on an online scooter forum? Especially when you probably wouldn't know to point Serbia on a map - not that I have anything against Serbs, but it is a different country than the one where I live, you butthurt Mexican. (!)
Anyway, better check on wifey, is she hyperventilating?
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I'm not sure how doing 150 MPH on one bike is like doing 62 MPH on another unless the Kymco was falling apart but your the expert (self proclaimed).
Mike the Serb (LOL) doesn't get under my skin, I find him to be humorous (Hey Serb, that means funny).
For the record I can find you on a map cause mine has the little names written all over it.
And last I mention it takes a real dud to poke fun at a man's wife and her medical condition, someone owes someone here an apology (but I doubt he's man enough to "man up").
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I'm not sure how doing 150 MPH on one bike is like doing 62 MPH on another unless the Kymco was falling apart but your the expert (self proclaimed).
Mike the Serb (LOL) doesn't get under my skin, I find him to be humorous (Hey Serb, that means funny).
For the record I can find you on a map cause mine has the little names written all over it.
And last I mention it takes a real dud to poke fun at a man's wife and her medical condition, someone owes someone here an apology (but I doubt he's man enough to "man up").
I would suggest to both of you to check blood pressure AND good/bad cholesterol ratio.
It can be downright dangerous to have high blood pressure and unfavorable HDL/LDL ratio for senior citizens. Compounded with anger issues and low threshold of anxiety response, it can lead to serious heart and brain problems.
(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc6/s160x160/211152_344036195621858_1552239931_n.jpg)
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War is the US way of practising geography. How can you expect the actual generation to find Croatia or Serbia?)
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War is the US way of practising geography. How can you expect the actual generation to find Croatia or Serbia?)
We're only transplants for Europe and we learned from you guys how to wage war, we did make it better though didn't we. I wonder how many of you would be speaking German now if it wasn't for us???
Axy, let me remind you, you’re the one holding the Axe so who is it with the anger issues?
You still owe Mike an apology.
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An apology for what?
Can we go back to trikes/Kymcos?
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Thanks Axey,
I will never make the mistake again about your nationality. It's so easy to remember that Croat rhymes with Goat. My wife and I entered into a very loving and considerate relationship over 30 years ago. I's called "marriage". And my "wifey" as you call her get's up every Mon-Wed-Fri at 4:00 AM and attends an "Extreme Boot Camp". She runs competitive 5-10 K's for charity on Sat mornings and plays League and Tournament tennis almost every day of the week. She could probably kick both our asses. Oh and thanks for your concern; My last total Cholesterol was 69. So low from a physiological standpoint that I asked my physician for clarification and he said it was great. HDl/LDL ratio is WNL. Afternoon BPs are usually in the 110/65 range but thanks again for asking. I'm 6'-1" and weigh 210. Just another well fed affluent American! Ce, thanks for the advice. I own property near a state park and the road in is a 2 mile + straight away. I've had the Spyder up to 60 + and no faster than that until I become proficient. It is a great toy and a lot of fun! Unlike the Xciting there are a lot of Spyder clubs and this will allow me to join and share with a lot of new friends in my riding area. On the flip side I really miss the ride from the Kymco, especially through the twisties! The weather is wet and threatening or I would be out riding today. Merry Christmas to all my Kymco friends.
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An apology for what?
Can we go back to trikes/Kymcos?
For calling out the mans wife dumb ass, your the one that got away from the trikes and Kymcos, now you want to turn tail and run? Just like a Serb, er um, Goat.
Merry Christmas everyone, were all just joking I'm sure. Right Goat?
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50cc 150 mph.....
Buddfab Streamliner @ 2008 Bub Speed Trials (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=818CCsQRObM#)
125cc 186 mph....
125cc Buddfab motorcycle streamliner 186 MPH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz_r_3yqqR4#)
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Mr. Geezer it's always good to hear from you. I know that Zombie or one of the other speed builders was getting a 50cc unit built to go 100mph +. I think that just goes to show what American ingenuity can do for fun much less what we can obtain when we attempt technology for new frontiers. From what I understand you and I shared many of the huge events in our nation's brilliant moments and also times of demise when we allowed politics to drive our economy, as it does now. You were a major player in our automotive recovery and knew the right time to retire. I was Medical and Safety Supervisor for the largest water heater manufacturer in the U.S. and Canada and reduced Worker's Comp and employee health costs by substantial amounts. I took early retirement at age 55 and then formed my own company and will probably retire, retire in a couple of years. I wish you and yours Merry Christmas and a spectacular, safe, WOT New Year!!!
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A merry Christmas to you.
I turned a job down in management with AO Smith who bought out State water heater in Ashland City, Tn a few years ago. One of my buddies Jim Hutzel took the materials management position for multiple locations with them. he may be retired by now. I havn't heard from him in a few years.
And have a happy new year. May the force be with you.
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It's so easy to remember that Croat rhymes with Goat.
Right Goat?
What's happening today? Tard wranglers have a day off? ;D
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We're only transplants for Europe and we learned from you guys how to wage war, we did make it better though didn't we. I wonder how many of you would be speaking German now if it wasn't for us???
Actually, I speak German, Italian and English. It's a concept of "being well educated", widespread throughout Europe.
Not everywhere is like that, I know.
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Axey,
Si, creo lo mismo. I hope you have enough socialized coal to throw a few extra chunks on your fire in your little socialized government apartment that you were on the waiting list for 2 years to get. It must frustrate the hell out of you to have so much education and work for your little government subbed job making ruples, er, Euros on the dollar. Happy New Year and I hope you can hurry and get in line at the shop tomorrow. I hear they will be offering good mutton and fresh cabbage if you have the correct govenment tickets.
Geez,
I worked for Rheem Manufacturing. A.O. was our biggest competition. Wanye Bander was our Plant Manager when I left. Most of those guys were Chicago relocates and instrumental in moving the operation, including Divisional, to Montgomery in an effort to prevent a union take-over. I remember back in the mid-90's the Steel Workers out of Birmingham were very aggressive in trying to Unionize us but they made very little progress due to high wages, lots of o'time and an excellent benefits package. A good snap-shot of the economy back then. Hopefully things are getting better again and we can continue to carry the world's economy on our shoulders. Happy New Year, again!
Mike
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Wow! a cholesterol thread! easy on the Christmas ham guys...... ;D ;D ;D
While you guys are fighting, we are busy with another typhoon here right now. The last Typhoon about 2 weeks ago killed more than a thousand people. Now, they continue on killing each other for food and relief goods .... Anyways, Merry Christmas to all!!!
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Vivo,
Time to count our blessings and get priorities straight! Right now as I write you we are under a severe tornado warning.(9:30 PM 12/25/12) We have taken shelter in our "safe room" and hoping...and praying. One confirmed death in the western states and a large tornado just touched down in Mobile, Al. This old house was built in 1975 and the timbers are shaking but seem to be holding together. The hail hitting the roof to the sunroom sounds like gunshots. Hopefully the squal line is passing and the sirens are issuing an "all clear". The most severe storm to hit the Eastern seaboard on a Christmas day. The Mayans were not too far off. All my prayers for my friends and your safety during the Hollidays.
Mike
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Right Mike, let's count our blessings... and be careful out there... let's just sing my favorite childhood song and drink some rum.. ;)
Oh I come from Alabama with a banjo on my knee,
I'm going to Louisiana, my true love for to see
It rained all night the day I left, the weather it was dry
The sun so hot I froze to death; Susanna, don't you cry.
CHORUS:
Oh, Susanna, don't you cry for me
For I come from Alabama,
With my banjo on my knee.... :D
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Wow! a cholesterol thread! easy on the Christmas ham guys...... ;D ;D ;D
While you guys are fighting, we are busy with another typhoon here right now. The last Typhoon about 2 weeks ago killed more than a thousand people. Now, they continue on killing each other for food and relief goods .... Anyways, Merry Christmas to all!!!
I was watching the weather last night for your area, looks bad, hold on tight and learn to float.
Axy, you'd be speaking German exclusively and by force not by choice, what you seem to over look is that if everyone of our States spoke another language we'd never have commerace as we do, you need somethig to unify you, think EU trying to model after the US.
You thinmk China isn't hel back by their people speaning so many different dialects in a country with the rough size of the US but a population 6 times greater.
There's no doubt that speaking several languages is a great help in some ways but not when it divides you as a people (not saying this is the case in your situation.
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Axey,
Si, creo lo mismo. I hope you have enough socialized coal to throw a few extra chunks on your fire in your little socialized government apartment that you were on the waiting list for 2 years to get. It must frustrate the hell out of you to have so much education and work for your little government subbed job making ruples, er, Euros on the dollar. Happy New Year and I hope you can hurry and get in line at the shop tomorrow. I hear they will be offering good mutton and fresh cabbage if you have the correct govenment tickets.
Actually, close to 90 % of people in Croatia, children and old people included, own a house or apartment here. It is a consequence of historical developments in the past. Socialized government housing argument nullified.
Last time I've checked, dollar has depreciated compared to EUR in the past ten years 70 %. Two years ago it was even worse, it lost almost double compared to EUR. Currency parity argument nullified.
Finally, 8 % of population in USA or 30 million receives welfare. Must be a heaven there. Heavenly society picture nullified.
Also I believe your president is a socialist halfling too, in his second mandate?
A little education goes a long way. Again.
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Axy, you'd be speaking German exclusively and by force not by choice, what you seem to over look is that if everyone of our States spoke another language we'd never have commerace as we do, you need somethig to unify you, think EU trying to model after the US.
"Commerace" is not a word in English language, you probably wanted to say "commeraderie".
C'mon, do you really think people are stupid? Trying to sell this story, with all the poverty, ghettos and crime in the USA?
It might sound strange, but in most European countries, you can freely go to EVERY SQUARE INCH of territory any time of the day, without fearing for your life or property. There are no gangs, no ghettos. As most Americans you have never visited any other country so this probably sounds completely incomprehensible to you.
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Axy, you'd be speaking German exclusively and by force not by choice..
Nonsense! I.e. one of my grand fathers was corpsman in the Wehrmacht and did learn modern languages like French and Russian, but could read/write Old Greek and Sanskrit too.
Education (classic skills like languages, literature, music, ...) was much more enforced than today.
Official language in the Wehrmacht though was only German.
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Nonsense! I.e. one of my grand fathers was corpsman in the Wehrmacht and did learn modern languages like French and Russian, but could read/write Old Greek and Sanskrit too.
Education (classic skills like languages, literature, music, ...) was much more enforced than today.
Official language in the Wehrmacht though was only German.
Was he a member of Legion Freies Indien / Indisches Infanterie Regiment ?
If so, Jesus, poor guy surely did see the world!!!
At a certain point during the war, there was an idea to recruit Muslim Indians into 13. SS-Freiwilligen-b.h. Gebirgs-Division (I know that I am talking about SS and you about Wehrmacht and I know the differences), but they gave up because Indian Muslims considered themselves to be Indian and had little similarities with Bosnian Muslims, so the idea was abandoned and they recruited only Bosnian Muslims into that division. Certainly not a proud episode for my country (that was Nazi collaborator in WW II, and on the other hand, partisan movement that liberated he whole country of Nazis and Italian fascists without American or Russian help).
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Was he a member of Legion Freies Indien / Indisches Infanterie Regiment ?
No, he belonged to the German part of my family. The Indian members engaged (somewhat, after family and work) at home against the British occupying force. I have no "war heros" in my family, just medics, tradesman & co.
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No, he belonged to the German part of my family. The Indian members engaged (somewhat, after family and work) at home against the British occupying force. I have no "war heros" in my family, just medics, tradesman & co.
;D I thought you were 100 % Indian. Anyway, WWII history is sort of an interest of mine.
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The word I mis spelled is "Commerce", you see this is not a forum on spelling so get past it.
Like those that can't see the end of the nose on their face I've been to Germany 3 times, Brazil, Peru 3 times, England, Holland, Austria, Spain, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, and many many States within my home country, one which makes yours pale in comparison. Remember for us visiting New York is akin to you going into Serbia, me going into Ohio is like you going into Germany and so on. When I go to California (3000 miles) where would that take you?
And I doubt that Hitler would have allowed multiple languages if he had won the war.
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Like those that can't see the end of the nose on their face I've been to Germany 3 times, Brazil, Peru 3 times, England, Holland, Austria, Spain, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, and many many States within my home country, one which makes yours pale in comparison. Remember for us visiting New York is akin to you going into Serbia, me going into Ohio is like you going into Germany and so on.
I am well aware of that. In fact, if I sit in my car, in the next 40 miles I will cross from Croatia through Slovenia, and from there into Italy. If I go north, in 250 kms I will go through Slovenia and reach Austria. 200 kms to the east, and I am in Bosnia, 600 kms to the east, I can be in Montenegro, Serbia, Albania, Macedonia...
If Hitler had won the war in Europe, Japan would win it on the Far East and Italy in the North Africa. In that case of parallel history, don't think it is impossible that Pentagon would be Swastikon. It is better that it did not happen.
I am not even trying to compare countries as it is impossible. USA has seven times more people on welfare than entire population of my country. My country is nothing but a dot on the map.
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USA has seven times more people on welfare than entire population of my country. My country is nothing but a dot on the map.
Good now that you seem to have come down to earth I'll make this concession. The US is being destroyed on purpose, those in charge, the families that hold control over industry are killing off the people by limiting the access to good paying jobs and offering free stuff as an alternative. This with poor work habits will sit back and vote themselves free stuff more and more until it bankrupts a nation, the US is a prime example of this.
One reason I am as traveled as I am is that I am always looking for alternative places to hang my hat. South Africa before the demise of Apartheid was a good spot as they bucked the trend but paid for it dearly, now you couldn't pay me to vacation there again. Mexico and Peru SA are my next best bets.
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Good now that you seem to have come down to earth I'll make this concession. The US is being destroyed on purpose, those in charge, the families that hold control over industry are killing off the people by limiting the access to good paying jobs and offering free stuff as an alternative. This with poor work habits will sit back and vote themselves free stuff more and more until it bankrupts a nation, the US is a prime example of this.
One reason I am as traveled as I am is that I am always looking for alternative places to hang my hat. South Africa before the demise of Apartheid was a good spot as they bucked the trend but paid for it dearly, now you couldn't pay me to vacation there again. Mexico and Peru SA are my next best bets.
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Don't know about Mexico, and it was already discussed here, but in places where heads are being regularly cut with chainsaws, I would not "hang my hat".
One can say that it is not like that all over Mexico but only in some areas, but several times over the last decade narco mafia almost took over control of entire regions in Mexico. Relocated gringo (equals money) is a clear target.
Did you do your homework and check locations worldwide? As a foreigner, you want the procedure of moving to be seamless. Did you check for example, Montenegro or Slovenia as potential destinations?
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Good now that you seem to have come down to earth I'll make this concession. The US is being destroyed on purpose, those in charge, the families that hold control over industry are killing off the people by limiting the access to good paying jobs and offering free stuff as an alternative. This with poor work habits will sit back and vote themselves free stuff more and more until it bankrupts a nation, the US is a prime example of this.
One reason I am as traveled as I am is that I am always looking for alternative places to hang my hat. South Africa before the demise of Apartheid was a good spot as they bucked the trend but paid for it dearly, now you couldn't pay me to vacation there again. Mexico and Peru SA are my next best bets.
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Don't know about Mexico, and it was already discussed here, but in places where heads are being regularly cut with chainsaws, I would not "hang my hat".
One can say that it is not like that all over Mexico but only in some areas, but several times over the last decade narco mafia almost took over control of entire regions in Mexico. Relocated gringo (equals money) is a clear target.
Did you do your homework and check locations worldwide? As a foreigner, you want the procedure of moving to be seamless. Did you check for example, Montenegro or Slovenia as potential destinations?
As you said Mexico is a big place and the trouble they are having isn't country wide but it does give reason to pause. On the plus side they have areas of great weather good medical care and a relaxed way of life that I'd gravitate towards. Peru is the obvious choice for us as my wife was borh in Peru and came to the States as a little girl, this would only be if the crap hit the fan though. but with family there some knowledge of Spanish on my part and my wife being legal it has a bunch going for it as far as being seemless. I've looked into your part of the world but in the last century it has been unstable (with the exception of recent history) I/we don't speak the language and at 50 I could learn but I doubt I'd become good at it, hell I can't even pell in English. Also with your economy doing so well the area we'd want to be (the south west/on the water) is expensive even by my standards. we love Germany for it's history but that won't happen either.
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South Africa before the demise of Apartheid was a good spot as they bucked the trend
Thats one way of putting it ::)
Having lived in South Africa post aparteid i can say it is a great country full of great people and is far far better off now than it ever was under apartied. Yes its far from perfect and has its problems but its still in transition right now. The biggest problem there right now is still the ingrained racist attitudes of many (of both colours) and the self-rightous feeling of entilement and privilage the white, mostly Afrikanners, have. I never met a bad or nasty black person while i was there but i met plenty of white ones.
I'll let you all get back to the original arguement now ;D
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I'll let you all get back to the original arguement now ;D
Let me see if I can remember some Scottish dialect learned from my coworker... "Just havin' a bit of fun with them nippety numpties."
Does this sound OK? ;D
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Let me see if I can remember some Scottish dialect learned from my coworker... "Just havin' a bit of fun with them nippety numpties."
Does this sound OK? ;D
Eejits or numpties are local terms used in Glasgow. We have many others to choose from :D
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As you said Mexico is a big place and the trouble they are having isn't country wide but it does give reason to pause. On the plus side they have areas of great weather good medical care and a relaxed way of life that I'd gravitate towards. Peru is the obvious choice for us as my wife was borh in Peru and came to the States as a little girl, this would only be if the crap hit the fan though. but with family there some knowledge of Spanish on my part and my wife being legal it has a bunch going for it as far as being seemless. I've looked into your part of the world but in the last century it has been unstable (with the exception of recent history) I/we don't speak the language and at 50 I could learn but I doubt I'd become good at it, hell I can't even pell in English. Also with your economy doing so well the area we'd want to be (the south west/on the water) is expensive even by my standards. we love Germany for it's history but that won't happen either.
Everything has been unstable in the last century, you shouldn't worry about that unless you plan to live forever. ;D
Yes, it is very expensive here. Average 200-250 m2 house would set you back at least 350.000$ up... average 3-room appartment, 100 m2, at least 250.000$. Cars and bikes, multiply 'murrican prices by factor two. Income tax is 40 %, VAT 25 %, mandatory health contribution 15 %, mandatory pension contribution 20 %.
I doubt that at this moment there is a safe and cheap place on the planet. Usually you can choose between those two categories.
Yet, in the 80s, we used to watch SciFi movies on VHS cassettes about totalitarian governments. And look at this now... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/21/coming-drone-attack-america?INTCMP=SRCH (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/21/coming-drone-attack-america?INTCMP=SRCH)
We are usually a year or two behind, as soon as they are deployed there, we will have them over here. The same happened with video surveillance...
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Eejits or numpties are local terms used in Glasgow. We have many others to choose from :D
Well, he IS from Glasgow. ;D
And he CAN DRINK, trust me. ;D
There was another coworker of ours with whom he had a particular grudge and used to call him NUMPTIHEAD all the time. ;D
I could not pronounce that word in a way he does...
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Thats one way of putting it ::)
Having lived in South Africa post aparteid i can say it is a great country full of great people and is far far better off now than it ever was under apartied. Yes its far from perfect and has its problems but its still in transition right now. The biggest problem there right now is still the ingrained racist attitudes of many (of both colours) and the self-rightous feeling of entilement and privilage the white, mostly Afrikanners, have. I never met a bad or nasty black person while i was there but i met plenty of white ones.
I'll let you all get back to the original arguement now ;D
The topic has changed so much that it no longer matters what we discuss as long as we discuss. I don't know your age and what made you move to SA or maybe you were born there, I also don't know if you are white black or of "color" as it is refered to.
Bck in the 80's when I was there I went for the reason that it was one of the few "stable" places in Africa. A few facts may open your mind a bit. SA with all it's warts had a net migration of over 100,000 per yr. (even with Apartheid) Reason why is that blacks from surrounding countries knew they were safe in SA, could find work (unemployment was 1.4%), Inflation was 1.1%, your kids went to school had uniforms and ate, sure it may not sound like much but why did they leave their home countries in favor of SA, because they didn't have those things elsewhere. Every black I met in SA was a good person, far better then most blacks in the US, I would describe them (SA) as greatful. Some white's had a chip on their shoulder but they were being pushed around by outside countries, inside the country you had the DNC giving people the necklace treatment (look it up), to anyone that didn't go along. Nelson and Whinny Mendela are not nearly the saints the media makes them out to be. Blacks as a rule made 40% of what a white made for the same work, Fair? Hell no but far cry better then any country around it in those times.
I don't condone they're actions but I understand some of what went on and why. FYI, my wife would be looked upon as colored by the Afrikanners (being south American herself) yet it didn't trouble either of us.
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There's no such thing as a "perfect" place to live. Where ever you go, there's always a bad thing around...bad government, bad neighbor, bad dog, rats, and so on...... maybe another planet will do... Where ever you are..., be like a water lilly.... it's pure, clean, fresh and beautiful despite being surrounded by dirty, ugly, musty water......
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There's no such thing as a "perfect" place to live. Where ever you go, there's always a bad thing around...bad government, bad neighbor, bad dog, rats, and so on...... maybe another planet will do... Where ever you are..., be like a water lilly.... it's pure, clean, fresh and beautiful despite being surrounded by dirty, ugly, musty water......
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Vivo,
If I were a single man I'd be living with you, sitting on a beach and move to high ground when the weather comes our way.
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Vivo,
If I were a single man I'd be living with you, sitting on a beach and move to high ground when the weather comes our way.
I will skip obvious "Get a room, you two".
Streido, last month I was in the cinema watching "Cloud Atlas" ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1371111/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1371111/) ).
I remembered you in a particular scene where a bunch of English people were attacked in a bar (pub) by Scots watching football game on TV.
It was a comic scene, and you should watch that movie if not for anything else, then for this. ;D ;D
I guess I was the only one in the theatre understaning what's behind this scene. ;D ;D
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Yeah Cloud Atlas, almost went to see it the other day, wasnt sure if it looked good or not tho :-\
08, im 40, got offered a job there and moved with my wife in '96, stayed there till '98 then came home after our 1st son was born there for personal/family reasons. For the record under aparteid most blacks did not have a proper job and those who did were poorly paid, if paid at all. It was a totally f**ked up country. The whites had everything while the blacks had very little. Most blacks were employed on a casual basis, often day to day, with zero rights or pension etc. They usually worked in construction as cheap labour, doing dangerous or sh**ty jobs they whites felt beneath them or they worked as housekeepers,gardeners or farmhands which usually meant they got free "food" and some small shack or dorm to live in while employed and a very minimal wage, if any. When i was there most whites had got rid of their live-in bkack helpers due to the changes in the law which meant they had to be treated as employees and had rights etc. The whites didnt fancy that so turfed them out. Sure some blacks got schooled but had to learn and speak in Afrikkans at school which led to the riots in the 70's. There wasnt one white township but many, mamy black townships. Just saying, it wasnt that great at all, unless you were white and could ignore racism and oppression. I heard many hirror stories from decent, good black folks who lived thro it. I also heard many white co-workers laugh and joke as they told us newbies all about the good ole days, going out in a pick-up looking for a black guy to beat up. When i was there at least 50-60% of whites i met had racist views or looked down on blacks. At least now things are improving, pity about Zuma being president tho, they need a proper leader not an idiot.
My sons got a S.A birth certificate and can visit or move there anytime, my wife and i have Permanent Resident status so can do the same. We may well do so in the future, who knows.
The topic has changed so much that it no longer matters what we discuss as long as we discuss
Yeah, but youve been here long enough to know thats normal. Remember how you used to moan about going off topic? :D Now you ust fit right in with the groove 8)
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Yeah Cloud Atlas, almost went to see it the other day, wasnt sure if it looked good or not tho :-\
08, im 40, got offered a job there and moved with my wife in '96, stayed there till '98 then came home after our 1st son was born there for personal/family reasons. For the record under aparteid most blacks did not have a proper job and those who did were poorly paid, if paid at all. It was a totally f**ked up country. The whites had everything while the blacks had very little. Most blacks were employed on a casual basis, often day to day, with zero rights or pension etc. They usually worked in construction as cheap labour, doing dangerous or sh**ty jobs they whites felt beneath them or they worked as housekeepers,gardeners or farmhands which usually meant they got free "food" and some small shack or dorm to live in while employed and a very minimal wage, if any. When i was there most whites had got rid of their live-in bkack helpers due to the changes in the law which meant they had to be treated as employees and had rights etc. The whites didnt fancy that so turfed them out. Sure some blacks got schooled but had to learn and speak in Afrikkans at school which led to the riots in the 70's. There wasnt one white township but many, mamy black townships. Just saying, it wasnt that great at all, unless you were white and could ignore racism and oppression. I heard many hirror stories from decent, good black folks who lived thro it. I also heard many white co-workers laugh and joke as they told us newbies all about the good ole days, going out in a pick-up looking for a black guy to beat up. When i was there at least 50-60% of whites i met had racist views or looked down on blacks. At least now things are improving, pity about Zuma being president tho, they need a proper leader not an idiot.
My sons got a S.A birth certificate and can visit or move there anytime, my wife and i have Permanent Resident status so can do the same. We may well do so in the future, who knows.
Yeah, but youve been here long enough to know thats normal. Remember how you used to moan about going off topic? :D Now you ust fit right in with the groove 8)
I'll address #2 first, I still don't like when we go too far off topic, I almost started another thread but thought I'd go with the flow of the place as it's not my forum, though I don't know who's forum it is.
All you state about SA is in some or all part true yet over 100,000 blacks from the surrounding (Black lead) nations made there way across the continant to find work, however bad it may have been in SA. Point is that a shack they had in SA was far cry better then the nothing they had elsewhere. Being taught another languge is not a bad thing (ask Axy), after all it was a white (Dutch/English) run country.
Tell me just how are conditions there now better when millions of people are infected with Aids, woman are raped repeatedly and live in constant fear, those people that lived in sacks, still live in shacks and as many or more starve and don't work. The figures I stated in my above comment were accurate per the US CIA fact book at the time (80's) and the US was boycotting them that decade. When I get a minute I'll look up there unemployment numbers today, inflation etc. My bet is they are far worse off today under black leadership then under Apartheid. As proof that people are ignorant more then 50% of the American people voted for Obama and in any election not one person has ever gotten 60% of the vote, so those SA's that used to beat on blacks is just there barbarick ignorance showing through.
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What happened in the past truly had great impact in the present time. Good or bad, I thank what happened in the past. I thank that the Spaniards colonized the Philippines, I thank that the Agustinian Priests came here in the 1800's... why? because if that did not happen...I wouldn't be here....
chain of events in the past is the real reason why we are communicating in this forum.... ponder on that... ::) ::) ::) So...If the Spaniards did not come, we were colonized by..... the British?.... so my great grand pa would be British?....hmmm... and will have relatives there..... hmmm... ::) or I might not even be a male... hmmm... :D
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Another thing that people need to remember is that with few exceptions all Nations were conquered and under rule of some other Nation at one point or another. Just as my Germanic ancestors were ruled by the Romans and my American Indian ancestors all but wiped out by the British and French, everyone has been under the gun at one point or another.
If not by another country by another tribe, sect or even religion.
This of course still does not make it all right, but in a world of boarders and rules we all must fall under the rule of another, would we be better off if we could freely roam the world in persuit of happiness, somehow I don't think that would work well.
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Who knows what is really right or wrong.... a wrong can be justified to make it right and vice versa...
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Another thing that people need to remember is that with few exceptions all Nations were conquered and under rule of some other Nation at one point or another. Just as my Germanic ancestors were ruled by the Romans and my American Indian ancestors all but wiped out by the British and French, everyone has been under the gun at one point or another.
We are lucky now because more and more we are "under the gun" of our own governments. We do not need foreign oppressors anymore.
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We are lucky now because more and more we are "under the gun" of our own governments. We do not need foreign oppressors anymore.
I can mostly agree with this, if you have some valued resource, watch out.
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Learning CCuuurrrrvvvvveeeeee!?!?!?!
Back in the fall of 2011 I made the decision to buy a maxiscooter. After 2 back surgeries my Neurosurgeon told me that if I continued to ride horses I would end up in a wheelchair.(I still have 2 of my beloved horses. I call them "Pasture Candy".) and I picked the maxiscooter because my left leg does'nt move when I ask it to so gear changes on a motorcycle were out. Had my eye on the Burgie 650 but the Suzuki dealer told me they had sold the last one and would not be getting any more in this year. I had loooked at the Honda dealer across the street and was also considering a new Silverwing or Majesty 400 but when the Suzi dealer showed me the Xciting 500Ri it was love at first paycheck. I could not believe the price and the value. Went home and got online and could find nothing but praise for Kymco products. So I went back the next day and closed the deal for a brand new maxiscoot for $5600. Down from $6200. The learning curve began with you guys. I would start a post about not being able to make right turns and Vivo would teach me how to "trust my left side" and it worked! The more I tried the more proficient I became and the less I dropped my scooter. At this same time of learning how to ride my wife witnessed all the falls and the scraped knees and elbows. She told me that everytime I left the house on the scooter she was a nervous wreck and then one night I did not come home... until very late assisted by 2 very kind, as Vivo calls them "My road angels" And I think everyone knows the story... the deer ran in front of me and I was nailed... broken ribs, knees, foot etc. So, if I wanted to ride I could buy a kit and convert the Xciting into a trike, or buy a Can Am Spyder. A 3 wheeled MC coming out of Canada, getting good reviews. However, The resemblance ended with the Right hand grip...the throttle. All brakes are controlled by a single foot brake. The transmission is a semi-automatic 5 speed...SE5. You have a small paddle on the Left hand grip and to change gears when you get to the correct RPM you manually push the + button or when the RPM's drop to 2500 or below like coming to a stop sign the engine will start downshifting on it's own or if you remember you can manually pull the + button towards you and if the RPM's are low enough you can maually downshift. Did I mention that this 3-wheeled monster had the 2 wheels in front and a large wheel in the rear connected by a drive belt. This bad-boy also has a 998cc Rotax engine with 106 horse power and a top speed of 200 mph. So once again I'm trying to learn on something that is too big and powerfull for me. I will keep you guys informed of my misadventures and smart moves too like ATGATT and the MSF course next month. But here I go again. Merry Christmas
Mike
...wowww...how did this .......get , here.....
Another thing that people need to remember is that with few exceptions all Nations were conquered and under rule of some other Nation at one point or another. Just as my Germanic ancestors were ruled by the Romans and my American Indian ancestors all but wiped out by the British and French, everyone has been under the gun at one point or another.
If not by another country by another tribe, sect or even religion.
This of course still does not make it all right, but in a world of boarders and rules we all must fall under the rule of another, would we be better off if we could freely roam the world in persuit of happiness, somehow I don't think that would work well.
...not beatin on you, 08....just an example...lol..
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Mike
...wowww...how did this .......get , here.....
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...not beatin on you, 08....just an example...lol..
For the first question you'd have to read the thread to get your answer.
I don't understand the 2nd part so please explain.
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..keep reading, it'll come to you eventually...
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..keep reading, it'll come to you eventually...
Wrong answer I don't dwell on the small stuff, you either answer the question asked or I move on, this ain't that important.
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..move th' fuk on bro!
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..move th' fuk on bro!
What the f*** r u talking about, chill or get out of my space.
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you either answer the question asked or I move on,
...welll......
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you either answer the question asked or I move on,
...welll......
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Guess you’re a gotta have the last word kind of guy.
So I'm loking into bay front property in Vivo's neighborhood, what does a small 100'X100' waterfront got for?
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..i'd move there...
..philipino women are hott!!
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..i'd move there...
..philipino women are hott!!
:-*
Hate to put it this way but I've had a few, no real complaints other then they can be very traditional. Traditional can get boring.
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Guess you’re a gotta have the last word kind of guy.
So I'm loking into bay front property in Vivo's neighborhood, what does a small 100'X100' waterfront got for?
the price of around 2 Prowlers....
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Grumman EA-6 "Prowler" is a jet warplane.
So ca. $100000000?
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Grumman EA-6 "Prowler" is a jet warplane.
So ca. $100000000?
oops, 08's Plymouth Prowler I meant.... he has one...
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oops, 08's Plymouth Prowler I meant.... he has one...
I paid 22K so we're talking 45K or so?? Does it come with indoor plumbing hook ups and electric to the street?
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I paid 22K so we're talking 45K or so?? Does it come with indoor plumbing hook ups and electric to the street?
of course...