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Title: Plugging a tire
Post by: 08087 on November 26, 2012, 10:27:09 PM
Anyone ever had a tire plug fail on them? No flats or leaks for me yet but am wondering.
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: MaryK on November 26, 2012, 11:02:14 PM
I would worry more when it is a scooter tire because of the small diameter of the tire.
But that is my concern.  Otherwise, I would more likely plug a rear than a front tire.
The closer to the center of the tread the better in my mind.

Scoot Safely,
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: blue on November 26, 2012, 11:26:32 PM
my front tire I just took it off the rim and filled the hole with seal a gasket its been holding for almost 2 years now.
that stuff is strong.
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: 08087 on November 27, 2012, 01:50:03 AM
I would worry more when it is a scooter tire because of the small diameter of the tire.
But that is my concern.  Otherwise, I would more likely plug a rear than a front tire.
The closer to the center of the tread the better in my mind.

Scoot Safely,


Sorry I should have stated Scooter tire, I have plugs and patches in my car tires all the time. A plug is so much easier then taking off the rear tire of a Scoot for a leak.
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: Vivo on November 27, 2012, 01:54:10 AM
I have two plugs in my rear tire. Been there for a year... the other one just 2 weeks old...
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: blue on November 27, 2012, 02:26:17 AM
plugs last for a long time if done right and you make sure the tire as the right amount of air in it all the time.
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: streido on November 27, 2012, 11:43:49 AM
I put one in my rear well over a yr ago, still fine, never had any issues.

Quote
a plug is so much easier then taking off the rear tire of a Scoot for a leak

I had to remove my tyre to plug it ??? All plugs i saw go in from the inside out cos theyre tapered so the tyre air pressure plugs them solid?
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: Zimmerman on November 27, 2012, 01:39:39 PM
Years ago I worked at a service station.

We would plug tires from the 'out side'

But if we pulled the tire from the wheel then we would glue a rubber patch over the hole from the inside of the tire.

Of the two the second was the better and longer lasting repair.

Though I have seen plenty of plugs work fine for a long time.
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: fshfindr on November 27, 2012, 07:58:54 PM
I'm thinking of getting a plug kit.  I will only use it for an emergency repair then later replace the tire.   But I have had them in car tires and never had a problem.

Richard L.
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: blue on November 27, 2012, 10:18:00 PM
its always good to have all safty gear you can think of on your scoot at all times ya never know..........
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: Peters on November 28, 2012, 07:58:59 AM
Plugs work good. When they do fail it's not a sudden loss of air pressure, just a slow leak. So not much danger.

Plug a tire with pressure in it. If your kit came with a ream(any good kit does), ream the hole out good creating a rough surface the adhesive can stick to. Leave the ream in the hole to hold the air in. You want it at or above operating psi. Have your plug ready, pull the ream out and quickly push the middle of the plug in folding the plug back on itself. You'll have both ends facing out with a loop on the inside. Cut the excess and check for leaks with soapy water. That will pretty much never come out.
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: sissy mary on November 28, 2012, 01:00:20 PM
Purchase and use a product called (RIDE ON). Throw away the patch/plug kit and never worry again. :-*
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: MotoRandy123 on November 28, 2012, 01:10:50 PM
Sounds like good stuff
"The sealant improves the bike’s fuel efficiency, extends tire life, mutes road vibrations, and seals punctures in the tire’s crown area."

I wonder how many MPG's I'll gain?
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: 08087 on November 28, 2012, 08:49:52 PM
Call me crazy but I've been known to keep small 3/4" screws in the glove box of my car, if I geta flat I put a screw in the hole until I make it to a service station.
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: Vivo on November 29, 2012, 03:18:30 AM
Call me crazy but I've been known to keep small 3/4" screws in the glove box of my car, if I geta flat I put a screw in the hole until I make it to a service station.

crazy....good crazy.. ;D
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: wordslinger on November 29, 2012, 03:26:54 AM
..my first rear tire (Kenda) on-road flat was in the rain, @ 6am in the morning, on the way to work...

..luckily, i had made it to the city portion of my commute...

..pushed into convenience store lot, pumped, plugged and rode on...

                                       8)
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: fshfindr on December 08, 2012, 04:26:28 PM
Word, do you carry a pump now?  Not a bad idea.
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: wordslinger on December 08, 2012, 05:00:41 PM
...no, i don't... though i probobaly should...never know when you gonna hit something sharp..

..that Kenda was a crappy tire all around...wound up wit 3 plugs innit before i switched to Avons...
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: blue on December 08, 2012, 08:34:21 PM
...no, i don't... though i probobaly should...never know when you gonna hit something sharp..

..that Kenda was a crappy tire all around...wound up wit 3 plugs innit before i switched to Avons...

wow word you must of got a bad tire I have been useing kendas for years..I they lasted me a few years per tire.....
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: wordslinger on December 09, 2012, 03:45:37 AM
..i never get....years ....on any tire....
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: streido on December 09, 2012, 03:13:16 PM
Years??? I wish. 9-10 months usually myself on my rear, front lasts longer.
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: Vivo on December 10, 2012, 06:07:43 AM
I have 15 months on my Chengs.
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: de-dee on December 10, 2012, 11:50:12 AM
I didnt make it to the end of the year with maxims tires 10,000 km. threads were showing, 2nd. tires pirellie diablo, 12,000 km. still looks good. miles is what wears on tires not years unless it gos into old age, 7 or 8 years,  then they crack and dry out,.   300i dt. 2011 ,.
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: blue on December 10, 2012, 12:50:24 PM
..i never get....years ....on any tire....



Stop doing burn outs they well last longer...................
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: streido on December 10, 2012, 04:44:07 PM


Stop doing burn outs they well last longer...................

 ;D
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: KymcoBW250Fan on December 11, 2012, 03:03:15 AM
I go through 2-3 tires a year on the rear and about 1 in the front. I have gone almost the entire life of a tire on a plug (got a nail maybe a week or 2 after I put the new tire on) and never had a problem, including rough roads and long road trips in the mountains. Then again, I've also had issues with plugs, but I keep a set in my little trunk along with a small air compressor that runs off the battery. If a plug were to fall out, it's easily replaced.

Last year I rode down to Bishop Castle (Rye, Colorado) and on the way home I suddenly lost ALL pressure on my front tire, right after I rolled into Colorado Springs after a leg of 65 mph state highway. I was coming to a traffic light and pffft!!!

I pulled it onto the curb, and pulled out my trusty repair kit. Alas! It was the rubber gasket at the base of the valve stem. I had often wondered when that odd 90 degree angle thing was going to buy the farm. I ride a lot of dirt roads with washboards in them, and the sideways torque on those things must be murderous.

Anyway, it cracked, and even though I carry ample tools around with me, this was something I could not repair on the road.

Fortunately, I had the foresight to upgrade my AAA membership to PlusRV, it covers flatbed towing up to 100 miles at no charge. I highly recommend getting this, it has saved my tookus more than once. I made the call, and 10 minutes later, my scooter was on the truck and I was on my way home.

I also recommend, which I promptly did afterwards, to have those funky sideways valves replaced with the best, shortest straight valves you can find.

By the way I don't burn out my tires, I just ride a lot. I used to swear by Michelins, now I ride Shinko (Chinese, but it's a Good Chinese) and they don't disappoint.
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: Peters on December 11, 2012, 04:58:05 AM
Shinko makes a good tire. Don't last long on big bikes but hey, they're cheaper. They're like Kumho, which has become a pretty trusted brand.

Shinko is not Chinese though. They're manufactured in South Korea and design is from Japan.

Check it out:
http://www.shinkotireusa.com/about.php (http://www.shinkotireusa.com/about.php)
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: streido on December 11, 2012, 09:58:37 AM
Shinko makes a good tire. Don't last long on big bikes but hey, they're cheaper. They're like Kumho, which has become a pretty trusted brand.

Shinko is not Chinese though. They're manufactured in South Korea and design is from Japan.

Check it out:
http://www.shinkotireusa.com/about.php (http://www.shinkotireusa.com/about.php)

Im not sure about shinko for our scoots but i know they make 10" tyres for other scoots which get a very bad rap, somewhere between deadly and useless. Like i said tho that may well just apply to their whitewalls.
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: wordslinger on December 11, 2012, 01:53:31 PM
By the way I don't burn out my tires, I just ride a lot.

..that was actually a joke by blue...lol..

..i generally ride around 15,000 MILES a year...
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: KymcoBW250Fan on December 12, 2012, 12:35:41 AM
I know that was a joke. But thanks for enlightening me.  :)
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: wordslinger on December 12, 2012, 11:48:18 PM
...well, now..i CAN do burn-out!!!...

                   ;D
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: Peters on December 13, 2012, 02:05:12 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: wordslinger on December 13, 2012, 02:12:59 AM
...well, nina can...

            ;)


..i just sorta ..hang on!!...



              :o
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: Peters on December 13, 2012, 02:32:04 AM
I bet she will!
Title: Re: Plugging a tire
Post by: wordslinger on December 13, 2012, 02:38:06 AM
...dammit, pete...you right up th street!!


..we gotta go ride somewhere!!


                :D