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Title: Charging System?
Post by: YagerMySter on October 21, 2012, 05:20:04 AM
I have a 2012 Yager.  I did not ride it for about three or 4 weeks and the battery died.

I took the battery in to be tested and they said it just needed a chage.  So I bought a charger and charged it fully.  Didn't ride the bike for a week and the battery wasn't strong enough to start the bike.

I had plenty of juice for the lights and display, just not enough to crank.

So, I'm wondering if there is a charging system on my Yager and if so, how do I test it.

What do you think?

Dave
Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: streido on October 21, 2012, 10:53:52 AM
A simple test is to put a meter across the battery terminals and note the voltage while the scoot idles on the stand. Now have someone rev the throttle and see how the voltage changes on the battery as they do. The Voltage should rise as the rpms rise, if not you prob have a problem in the charging system. If the voltage does rise you may have a battery problem or a voltage regulator/rectifier problem, if your scoot has a regulator that is.
Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: YagerMySter on October 21, 2012, 12:41:51 PM
Good idea :-)

Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: MotoRandy123 on October 21, 2012, 02:01:24 PM
 If a battery is allowed to discharge it can sulphate and not be able to hold a full charge
again, so it might be bad now. Most people use a battery "Tender" when not using the scoot
for a while. I did find an AGM battery for the Yager, those last a bit longer.
 
 The test for the charging system is to read the battery voltage while idling, it should be around
14v. It might drop a little as the revs increase (caution check while on centerstand bike will move
when reved) but should stay above 13.5v.

 If it goes above 14.7v or stays below 13v the regulator is bad!
Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: 08087 on October 21, 2012, 06:22:23 PM
Also check your connections to make sure they are tight and no corrosion is on the terminals, this can stop it from getting a proper charge too.

The tender is the way to go if not using the scoot often.
Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: YagerMySter on October 22, 2012, 08:09:55 AM
Thank you,

All great ideas.

:-)
Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: YagerMySter on November 12, 2012, 09:36:37 AM
Well, it turns out that the batter is bad.

I drove all over town trying to find a YT12A-BS batter.

Online, I haven't had any luck.

Anybody know a good place for batteries for my Yager 200i?

:-)
Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: streido on November 12, 2012, 10:27:37 AM
Loads of them online ???

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000N5R6WM/sr=/qid=/ref=olp_seeall_fm?ie=UTF8&colid=&coliid=&condition=new&me=&qid=&shipPromoFilter=0&sort=sip&sr=&startIndex=0 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000N5R6WM/sr=/qid=/ref=olp_seeall_fm?ie=UTF8&colid=&coliid=&condition=new&me=&qid=&shipPromoFilter=0&sort=sip&sr=&startIndex=0)
Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: MotoRandy123 on November 12, 2012, 11:31:55 AM
Batteries Plus has an AGM one. Those should be more bullet proof.

http://www.batteriesplus.com/product/32748-XTAX12--BS-Xtreme-Permaseal-AGM-Battery/570-CC/6280-ATV-Batteries/639047-Kymco/Mongoose300/300CC.aspx (http://www.batteriesplus.com/product/32748-XTAX12--BS-Xtreme-Permaseal-AGM-Battery/570-CC/6280-ATV-Batteries/639047-Kymco/Mongoose300/300CC.aspx)
Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: YagerMySter on November 12, 2012, 01:44:44 PM
Loads of them online ???

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000N5R6WM/sr=/qid=/ref=olp_seeall_fm?ie=UTF8&colid=&coliid=&condition=new&me=&qid=&shipPromoFilter=0&sort=sip&sr=&startIndex=0 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000N5R6WM/sr=/qid=/ref=olp_seeall_fm?ie=UTF8&colid=&coliid=&condition=new&me=&qid=&shipPromoFilter=0&sort=sip&sr=&startIndex=0)
Thanks :-)

It's weird.  That battery has dimensions of Product Dimensions: 6.9 x 6.6 x 6.5 inches ; 8.2 pounds and that doesn't jive with the dimensions of that same battery on Ebay.  Those dimensions would too big for the battery compartment on the Yager.  Is it possible that Amazon is wrong?  :-)

Thanks again everyone!
Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: blue on November 12, 2012, 02:10:32 PM
you can go up in size as long as the battery fits. going down in size not a good idea.
Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: streido on November 12, 2012, 02:57:11 PM
Thanks :-)

It's weird.  That battery has dimensions of Product Dimensions: 6.9 x 6.6 x 6.5 inches ; 8.2 pounds and that doesn't jive with the dimensions of that same battery on Ebay.  Those dimensions would too big for the battery compartment on the Yager.  Is it possible that Amazon is wrong?  :-)

Thanks again everyone!

Hmm seems weird ??? It is probable that either Amazon or Ebay has it wrong, you could email both sellers to confirm sizes etc before you buy? Most bike shops keep a stock of different batteries here on the shelf, i got one a few years ago for my Agility which was the same rating and physical size but a different make and number. Surely one of your local shops must have one that will work in your scoot?
Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: MotoRandy123 on November 12, 2012, 03:15:53 PM
These are on sale today. The are exactly the same number as is on my battery and
measure 6x3 7/16x4 3/16.
http://www.apexbattery.com/power-max-gt12a-bs-battery-motorcycle-batteries-power-max-motorcycle-batteries.html (http://www.apexbattery.com/power-max-gt12a-bs-battery-motorcycle-batteries-power-max-motorcycle-batteries.html)
Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: Pimpy1 on November 12, 2012, 04:26:08 PM
AGM Yt12a-bs 12V Battery  $21.38 + $13.49 shipping
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004AHB2HE/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B004AHB2HE&linkCode=as2&tag=kinderinfocom-20 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004AHB2HE/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B004AHB2HE&linkCode=as2&tag=kinderinfocom-20)
Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: YagerMySter on November 13, 2012, 08:20:25 AM
Hmm seems weird ??? It is probable that either Amazon or Ebay has it wrong, you could email both sellers to confirm sizes etc before you buy? Most bike shops keep a stock of different batteries here on the shelf, i got one a few years ago for my Agility which was the same rating and physical size but a different make and number. Surely one of your local shops must have one that will work in your scoot?

I contacted the seller.  They said the dimensions were for the packaging.  I ordered a Yuasa battery from Amazon.  Anyway, I hope they change their "product description".  They might sell more batteries.

Title: Re: Charging System?
Post by: YagerMySter on November 18, 2012, 01:10:56 PM
Got the new battery.  Having to put in the acid made me nervous but it was ok.  I placed the Acid Bottles over the battery and pushed down over the holes.  The tubes inside the battery punctured the seals and the acid poured into the battery.  Didn't have to use golves and no mess.

Took about 3 hours to charge on a 2 Amp charge.

Bike started right up and I went for a ride :-)