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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: 08087 on October 10, 2012, 09:21:01 PM
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How well does your scoot start in cool or cold weather? here in NJ the daytime temps are still in the 60-70's but when I'm heading home from work at night they are droping into the upper 40's and 50's now. I keep my scoot on a trickle charge every couple of days so the batt. is strong, just wondering if the scoot will fail to start in colder weather.
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with the right jets and sit up you should be good. Mine startes but it starts hard and need to let it worm up befor take off.
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Mine is all standard, stock or original equipment and I don't tinker with my scoot. What say you?
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I use to own a 2006 Kymco People S200 (163cc w/ a carb.) & I always kept it on a Deltran Battery Tender Jr. float charge (regardless of the weather) I used Stabil & Startron ethanol fuel treatment every time I filled-up. Even when it was 40+ degrees out, she would start within 3 pulls. What Kymco model do you have? If it's fuel-injected, you're much better off!
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I use to own a 2006 Kymco People S200 (163cc w/ a carb.) & I always kept it on a Deltran Battery Tender Jr. float charge (regardless of the weather) I used Stabil & Startron ethanol fuel treatment every time I filled-up. Even when it was 40+ degrees out, she would start within 3 pulls. What Kymco model do you have? If it's fuel-injected, you're much better off!
Same as you only 2009. so 3 shots on the starter button or 3 kick starts? I pull start my outboard and lawn mower??
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No problems so far with my 2009 XCiting 250 with fuel injection. We've had a couple of mornings in the mid 40's and she started right up...first push of the button. No additives, no battery tender...but then I ride most every day. Keeping my fingers crossed as this weekend may hit 32 in the morning.
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My Super 8 starts fine at any temp. Quick twist of the throttle, press starter, engine cranks 1, engine starts.... all stock, no additives, mineral 15/40 oil, no battery tenders, have a 9 amp battery instead of the stock 7 amp, and 97 Octane fuel... sometimes 100... ;D
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No problems so far with my 2009 XCiting 250 with fuel injection. We've had a couple of mornings in the mid 40's and she started right up...first push of the button. No additives, no battery tender...but then I ride most every day. Keeping my fingers crossed as this weekend may hit 32 in the morning.
Thanks, I think the fuel injection has an advantage over the carb. and Vivo I don't think it gets too cold in the islands unless your in the high hills.
So far so good with mine but I don't want to find out the hard way one night.
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My Agility 50 has a rough time in the cold. When it gets below 50 degrees fahrenheit, the electric start will not work and I have to kick start it a bunch of times while playing with the throttle to get it to start. And then, I have to let it warm up for about 10 - 15 minutes or it'll stall when I try to go anywhere. :-\ She just hates mornings, is all...
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Thanks, I think the fuel injection has an advantage over the carb. and Vivo I don't think it gets too cold in the islands unless your in the high hills.
So far so good with mine but I don't want to find out the hard way one night.
The coldest Christmas I've experienced here in our place is 18 degrees celsuis or 64 fahreheit. Hottest is 40 celsuis or 104 F. In mountain cities, they have below zero temps but no snow, just frozen plants... ;D
Other than temps, humidity plays a role in our engine performance.
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My tuned up A50 starts on the button every day i start it within a sec normally even if i've not used it for weeks. Was 1°-2°C yesterday here at 6:40am when i went to work, had been riding my 125cc scoot the last few weeks so the A50's been sat in my garden uncovered and unused. Put in the key, pressed the elec starter and she fired right up within a second no probs. I never give it any throttle ever when starting it, once it starts i leave it while i pul on my helmet and gloves then off i go ;D
Got to say i have never had issues starting mine even in minus temperatures when theres frost and ice all over it.
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Thanks all, very reasuring, as long as it's clear I'll be taking the scoot to work, I've got coveralls to keep me warm, we'll see how well they work as it cools off.
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Get really good warm gloves or over-mitts, your fingers will freeze in winter even with your normal summer gloves on.
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Get really good warm gloves or over-mitts, your fingers will freeze in winter even with your normal summer gloves on.
I have a pair of leather imsulated work gloves, the kind they use to work on rails in the rail yard, complete with reflectors. If they don't do the trick I'll have to suffer. It's a short 15 min ride so I'll be OK (I think).
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My tuned up A50 starts on the button every day i start it within a sec normally even if i've not used it for weeks. Was 1°-2°C yesterday here at 6:40am when i went to work, had been riding my 125cc scoot the last few weeks so the A50's been sat in my garden uncovered and unused. Put in the key, pressed the elec starter and she fired right up within a second no probs. I never give it any throttle ever when starting it, once it starts i leave it while i pul on my helmet and gloves then off i go ;D
Got to say i have never had issues starting mine even in minus temperatures when theres frost and ice all over it.
Can you list all of the tuning you've done? Or send me a PM with it? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease
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Can you list all of the tuning you've done? Or send me a PM with it? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease
Full derestrict (inc cdi cut)
Race variator
Nakura belt
K&N filter
92 main jet (little too rich no with winter so going to drop to a 90)
Leo Vince exhaust
Shortened boss (36.8mm)
1500 rpm clutch springs
1500rpm torque spring
5.1g Malossi rollers
Bridgestone ML50 Mola tyres
Digital tacho
Few other cosmetic mods.
I aways run super unleaded fuel and every month or so run a full tank with Redex in it. I found the best way to start it is no NOT give it any throttle, just press the electric starter and it fires up at low rpm then i leave it alone. The revs will build as the auto chike kicks in and the back wheel starts spinning on the stand while i go back in and put on my helmet and gloves. By the time i come back out the back wheel has stopped spinning, revs have gone back down to idle normally, if not i give the throttle a littl twist and that drops it back dkn. NEVER had an issue starting it that way apart from when i had a bad battery a while back, been fine since i fitted a new one. Like i said i hadnt used it for nearly 2wks and its been sat by the hedge in my garden, other scoot has blown the carb gasket on wed night so thurs morning i had to use the A50. Started right up as normal and it was like 1°-3°C outside with a frost over everything :)
You may have a choke problem on yours? Also i found if you rev it once it 1st starts mine doesnt seem to like that, it seems to like a min or 2 to wake up from his sleep :)
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Get really good warm gloves or over-mitts, your fingers will freeze in winter even with your normal summer gloves on.
Can't agree enough with this statement....my hands start getting too cold when the temp hits 45. I went to the local Vespa store last weekend and scored a pair of beautiful winter gloves for $25....probably because our Vespa riders around here don't hit the streets once the temp goes below 60 :)
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In my younger and much more foolish days I would ride year around in northern Minnesota with the occasional winter ride being in -30F/-34.4C temps. When below 10F I would wrap the engine with an electric blanket made to keep car batteries warm such as below:
http://www.amazon.com/Kats-22200-Watt-Battery-Thermal/dp/B000I8XD9E (http://www.amazon.com/Kats-22200-Watt-Battery-Thermal/dp/B000I8XD9E)
In extreme cold it would keep the engine oil from getting too thick.
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our Vespa riders around here don't hit the streets once the temp goes below 60
Im still on my Vespa most days the last 3 wks, only used my Kymco 2-3 times just to keep it feeling loved. Going to keep on it till the salt hits the roads then it comes off the road and im back on the Kymco thro winter. Going to be hard going back to a 50cc 4t, im dreading hills and no gears again :(
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I herd of people wrapeing heat tape around there motor and while its siting in the garage you just plug it in to keep scoot worm for easy start in the morning.
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Im still on my Vespa most days the last 3 wks, only used my Kymco 2-3 times just to keep it feeling loved. Going to keep on it till the salt hits the roads then it comes off the road and im back on the Kymco thro winter. Going to be hard going back to a 50cc 4t, im dreading hills and no gears again :(
Glad to hear that. When I was buying the gloves, I was talking to the Vespa dealership's owner. He noted that he sold 82 Vespas this summer, but that he only sees the scooters out on weekends and warm days. He was very happy to see that someone was planning to ride their scooter as much as possible. He also had very nice things to say about Kymcos. Must admit, I have a warm spot in my heart for the Vespas - still a beautiful machine in my opinion.
By the way, the morning started out at 30 degrees F and my XC started right up. The gloves worked great - my hands did not even get cool. Well worth the money as I hate to get to work with cold hands.
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The heat wraps are great for when the scoot is home, just like the tender. If the bike won't start after being hooked up to the tender all night I won't have to worry about taking her to work. My worry is after the bike sits for 8 cold hours outside unprotected am I going to have a problem getting home.
The way it sounds is that I should not have a problem as long as the Batt. is strong.
Rode home last night at 40 F. with no problem starting, will see in a few weeks what the 30's bring.
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Full derestrict (inc cdi cut)
Race variator
Nakura belt
K&N filter
92 main jet (little too rich no with winter so going to drop to a 90)
Leo Vince exhaust
Shortened boss (36.8mm)
1500 rpm clutch springs
1500rpm torque spring
5.1g Malossi rollers
Bridgestone ML50 Mola tyres
Digital tacho
Few other cosmetic mods.
I aways run super unleaded fuel and every month or so run a full tank with Redex in it. I found the best way to start it is no NOT give it any throttle, just press the electric starter and it fires up at low rpm then i leave it alone. The revs will build as the auto chike kicks in and the back wheel starts spinning on the stand while i go back in and put on my helmet and gloves. By the time i come back out the back wheel has stopped spinning, revs have gone back down to idle normally, if not i give the throttle a littl twist and that drops it back dkn. NEVER had an issue starting it that way apart from when i had a bad battery a while back, been fine since i fitted a new one. Like i said i hadnt used it for nearly 2wks and its been sat by the hedge in my garden, other scoot has blown the carb gasket on wed night so thurs morning i had to use the A50. Started right up as normal and it was like 1°-3°C outside with a frost over everything :)
You may have a choke problem on yours? Also i found if you rev it once it 1st starts mine doesnt seem to like that, it seems to like a min or 2 to wake up from his sleep :)
I have shamelessly printed this out and will begin mods ;D
You're the man, THANK YOU!!!!
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I have shamelessly printed this out and will begin mods ;D
You're the man, THANK YOU!!!!
Tbh the exhaust and filter gives little or no performance gains, i just prefer the look of them and the stainless steel exhaust wil last thro 5x stock metal exhausts at least i imagine. Hate seein a rusty old exhaust on a scoot.
You may find the 5.1g rollers too light for you, i just like the acceleration. I did used to run 5.5g's for a year or so which worked well, you may want to try them 1st?
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Sounds good - I'll start w/ the 5.5 1st. They're not very expensive (even the name brand kind).
I'm with you on the exhaust... Seeing a rust exhaust is akin to seeing a quarter panel rusted thru on a car. hehehe