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Title: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: blue on August 19, 2012, 07:06:40 PM
What do I need to becarefull of while I run my scoot with a open air filter.Besides plug chops.
Do I need to go back to the stock air box when weather gets colder .what works best for you guys.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: streido on August 19, 2012, 08:10:44 PM
What do I need to becarefull of while I run my scoot with a open air filter.Besides plug chops.
Do I need to go back to the stock air box when weather gets colder .what works best for you guys.

You will need to mod up a cover for it if riding in the wet or rain. Mine came with one that worked ok in a small shower but in wet weather the scoot died and it couldnt go over 30 or past 1/2-3/4 throttle. I made a better cover up out the bottom of an old 2L plastic Coke bottle thats been fine since, even in real heavy rain.

Not ran mine for too long so not sure about how its goin to be in the cold over winter, guess i'll find out soon enough tho.   :-\
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: skippy on August 19, 2012, 08:39:30 PM
You will need to mod up a cover for it if riding in the wet or rain. Mine came with one that worked ok in a small shower but in wet weather the scoot died and it couldnt go over 30 or past 1/2-3/4 throttle. I made a better cover up out the bottom of an old 2L plastic Coke bottle thats been fine since, even in real heavy rain.

Not ran mine for too long so not sure about how its goin to be in the cold over winter, guess i'll find out soon enough tho.   :-\
 

lol that dr no joke going through my head now
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: blue on August 19, 2012, 09:47:19 PM
Already have a spare 2  l bottle made up for it. I keep in the scoot for a rainy day.
I was thinking of cuting a hole in the bottom of the seat box and put a elbow like hose on it so it well be under my a_ _ on wet days .
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: baddi on August 24, 2012, 08:46:53 AM
To get the best filtering, most open air filters need filter oil, but that depends on your type of filter. :)
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: Vivo on August 24, 2012, 09:16:05 AM
 

lol that dr no joke going through my head now

you remembered....  ;D
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: whiteknight on September 01, 2012, 10:05:10 PM
Already have a spare 2  l bottle made up for it. I keep in the scoot for a rainy day.
I was thinking of cuting a hole in the bottom of the seat box and put a elbow like hose on it so it well be under my a_ _ on wet days .

i had to do that to fit my polini filter, its a bit of a beasty filter and wouldnt fit via "conventional" means..so OUT came the saw and i got to work on the seat. just need to direct a hose from the outside and into the seat so the filter has some air getting to it.

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj547/whiteknight28/Project%20Agile%2072cc/120705-1919.jpg)

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj547/whiteknight28/Project%20Agile%2072cc/120705-1920.jpg)
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: blue on September 02, 2012, 12:21:42 AM
Nice job I like that.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: skippy on September 02, 2012, 08:30:13 AM
i had thought of doing that but dident know if would work as under the seat is warn air, not cold. let us know how it works for you.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: streido on September 02, 2012, 10:53:53 AM
Should work fine, if you use a hole-saw and cut a 50mm hole in front you can run some 50mm flexi hose into it from outside, maybe even cut another 50mm hole in black plastic under the front of the seat and run the hose from there.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: blue on September 02, 2012, 11:26:12 AM
takes up your storage under the seat but I would rather do that then have the storage.
I was mainly thinking of doing that only threw the winter when the weather is colder should help the scoot run and start better but i want mine a little more farther up under the seat.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: whiteknight on September 02, 2012, 03:16:23 PM
yea only did that because i had no other choice.  i will be running some hose into the seat so it has cool air at all times. i have adjusted the angle of the filter so it sits nearer the outside, runs fine at the moment and makes a hell of a noise  ;D
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: skippy on September 02, 2012, 04:22:55 PM
sounds good. will have to order all my bits tomorrow lol get ready for the leo that should arive tomorrow or tuesday.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: streido on September 02, 2012, 04:38:38 PM
sounds good. will have to order all my bits tomorrow lol get ready for the leo that should arive tomorrow or tuesday.

Buy earplugs, believe me you'll be shocked how loud it becomes :D
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: skippy on September 02, 2012, 04:52:20 PM
if its that loud ill be too embarist to ride lol.with that gates belt it rides like sh*$. but will order tomorrow clutch springs, torque springs, carb jet set, open filter,some more roller shels,
when that new belt comes should run better then will start with the rest of the mods, but as you said one at a time lol will have to resist.got next 2 days off work so its meeeeeee time.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: streido on September 02, 2012, 05:00:23 PM
if its that loud ill be too embarist to ride lol.with that gates belt it rides like sh*$. but will order tomorrow clutch springs, torque springs, carb jet set, open filter,some more roller shels,
when that new belt comes should run better then will start with the rest of the mods, but as you said one at a time lol will have to resist.got next 2 days off work so its meeeeeee time.

I would put my old belt back in again till the new one arrived. I always measure the new one against the old if its a brand i never used before, many come up short.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: skippy on September 02, 2012, 05:13:52 PM
would love to but its to far gone. when it gets up to 10mph just slips and judders. will not go any where on full throtle.lol
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: whiteknight on September 02, 2012, 06:37:30 PM
would love to but its to far gone. when it gets up to 10mph just slips and judders. will not go any where on full throtle.lol

im glad my belt hasnt got that shot. just cant go much beyond 40mph....44/45 at a push.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: skippy on September 02, 2012, 07:06:20 PM
im glad my belt hasnt got that shot. just cant go much beyond 40mph....44/45 at a push.

well if that not bad enough i bought a gates belt for the a 50. £21.50. it is way to short. putting in high. so it trys to stall on pull of. when gets going it will reach 40 on flat( think at 40 belt is fully stretched) but its done my head in the last week so new belt has been ordered.narku    
Kymco Agility RS 50cc HQ Drive Belt. hope this one works.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: whiteknight on September 03, 2012, 12:00:19 PM
i have a naraku belt sitting in my parts box. the belt was a little longer and i could hear it slapping the inside of the cvt cover so i changed it straight back to the oem belt to avoid doing any damage.

probably will get another oem belt and see how i get on with it.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: streido on September 03, 2012, 01:44:32 PM
i have a naraku belt sitting in my parts box. the belt was a little longer and i could hear it slapping the inside of the cvt cover so i changed it straight back to the oem belt to avoid doing any damage.

probably will get another oem belt and see how i get on with it.

My Naraku was spot on? Exact same one as Skippy ordered im sure, had 2 of them now.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: skippy on September 03, 2012, 02:29:10 PM
well the belt not come yet >:( but the leo vince has. ;D perfect fit. now it makes noice and goes nowhere.lol come on belt i want to play
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: blue on September 10, 2012, 01:13:10 AM
with the weather gets colder like under 32 % is it ok to stell run open air fikter or should I go back to stock box.............
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: whiteknight on September 10, 2012, 08:51:40 AM
with the weather gets colder like under 32 % is it ok to stell run open air fikter or should I go back to stock box.............

i would suppose it would be ok. when its colder the air is denser meaning more air (presumably) is going into the combustion chamber..dont know if because of the denser air you will need a bigger jet.....this is just speculation though havnt ran the Ag with the polini in the cold yet.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: whiteknight on September 14, 2012, 07:35:46 AM
heres my open air filter, you have to bear with the vid, i fart arse around starting her up and opening the seat....but you do get to see some polini  :D   and hear it too  ;D

 (http://s1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj547/whiteknight28/?action=view&current=120905-1118.mp4[/URL)
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: blue on September 14, 2012, 09:26:38 PM
sound quite with the seat down. might give it a try this winter but I just dont know if I wana touch my scoot while its running so good.             lol
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: skippy on September 14, 2012, 09:32:45 PM
try it you might like it. just changed mine. was in the middle of plug chops at the time.befor she blew.looks alot better without oem air box.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: whiteknight on September 14, 2012, 11:03:01 PM
sound quite with the seat down. might give it a try this winter but I just dont know if I wana touch my scoot while its running so good.             lol

yea she sounds quite because of my phone, she is in fact quite a lairy thing, there will be another vid soon once i get a new belt..my speed is really suffering at the moment 10mph should be 25 and 40 should be very VERY close to 50.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: skippy on September 20, 2012, 07:47:41 PM
i have a naraku belt sitting in my parts box. the belt was a little longer and i could hear it slapping the inside of the cvt cover so i changed it straight back to the oem belt to avoid doing any damage.

probably will get another oem belt and see how i get on with it.

found out last week that when deresting a agility the belt will rub on the bendix. so it may not be the belt as such. was told that you have to take the bendix out when fully derestricting. had the same with my narkau belt wore it down a little where it was rubbing. took the bendix out, now not a problem. the belt is perfect. but have to start on kick start.
Title: Re: tips on running a open air filter.
Post by: blue on September 25, 2012, 11:46:03 PM
if anyone needs a cover for there air filter. Just use a peanut butter jar. works great.