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Title: new belt slow take off...
Post by: superscoot on July 13, 2012, 07:08:28 PM
so i installed a new belt top end is great
but its so slow at take off any idears? now i noticed ive got a 2000rpm contra spring on so im guessing thats to stiff for the new belt and causing slow take off?
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: wordslinger on July 13, 2012, 07:20:13 PM
..could be that you need stiffer clutch springs...
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: streido on July 13, 2012, 08:20:54 PM
Sounds like the new belt may be slightly longer to me. The 2000 contra should help take off if anything tho it may be too stiff to get to top speed, at least it was on my A50. Think theyre too stiff for a 50cc 4t, 1500 seems to be the stiffest that works on them.
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: superscoot on July 13, 2012, 08:27:50 PM
pulled the clutch off again and i have 2000rpm contra and clutch lol who ever had the scoot before me god knows what there set up was

so gonna get them changed around see what works the best or do you think as its a new belt also wider could that be the problem? might need bedding in so to say... mind you i couldnt moan about the top end doing 52mph verified via gps better than 45 mph lol
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: superscoot on July 13, 2012, 08:31:19 PM
streido the new belt is a bugger to get on but once on all is fine...ill let the f**ker bed in ride around on it for a couple hundered miles
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: streido on July 13, 2012, 09:04:13 PM
The belts do take a few miles to bed in usually, at least mine always feel as if they do, after 50-100km or so mine feel ok.

The 2000 clutch springs may be ok to use, what scoot do you have?

It does sound like your new belt is longer if you gained 7mph on it. I used to run a 736mm belt when stock was 729mm, that gave me similair gains to what you got, thats why i think it may be a little longer on yours.
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: superscoot on July 13, 2012, 10:03:33 PM
ive got a 04 super 9 ac well im gonna get me another belt as well..( always good to have a spare laying around just incase) and put that on to see how it goes only if the new belt dont show any improvement over time
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: zombie on July 13, 2012, 10:07:11 PM
How much wider is the new belt? For proper fit it Must sit at or equal to the top of the rear pulleys, and Tight on the drive boss. Any other fit is wrong. I believe trading the spring will fix it tho...
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: superscoot on July 13, 2012, 10:12:16 PM
oh gawd..there is a noticeable diffrence im also gonna change the contra spring out for a 1500 i dont mind a bit of trial and error to get things right
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: wordslinger on July 14, 2012, 02:20:27 AM
..trial and error...tuning...is the key to success...


..just today, i've had my clutch completely disassembled 4 times...changed the drive belt, swapped torque drivers, and installed 5gram sliders in blace of 5.7....


..and it's better than when i started...


                   8)
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: zombie on July 14, 2012, 02:23:21 AM
Start taking the yellow ones when that urge hits you. They work.
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: wordslinger on July 14, 2012, 02:25:29 AM
..i need an open rex for them yeller ones...


                   :o
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: zombie on July 14, 2012, 02:28:52 AM
I stole a gum ball machine from the Shriner's Club, and keep it full of the yellow ones next to my desk.
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: wordslinger on July 14, 2012, 02:29:36 AM
..my fingers are sore...
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: zombie on July 14, 2012, 02:33:30 AM
That's the Blue ones... ;)
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: wordslinger on July 14, 2012, 02:34:49 AM
..working that gumball slider...
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: streido on July 14, 2012, 12:10:46 PM
I stole a gum ball machine from the Shriner's Club, and keep it full of the yellow ones next to my desk.

You got a desk? Never had you down as a desk type of guy???  :D
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: superscoot on July 14, 2012, 02:47:23 PM
You got a desk? Never had you down as a desk type of guy???  :D

likewise
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: blue on July 14, 2012, 05:04:02 PM
pulled the clutch off again and i have 2000rpm contra and clutch lol who ever had the scoot before me god knows what there set up was

so gonna get them changed around see what works the best or do you think as its a new belt also wider could that be the problem? might need bedding in so to say... mind you i couldnt moan about the top end doing 52mph verified via gps better than 45 mph lol
try 5.5 rollers
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: superscoot on July 14, 2012, 07:58:12 PM
blue thats what i have in now :)
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: superscoot on July 14, 2012, 07:59:47 PM
..trial and error...tuning...is the key to success...


..just today, i've had my clutch completely disassembled 4 times...changed the drive belt, swapped torque drivers, and installed 5gram sliders in blace of 5.7....


..and it's better than when i started...


               




good to hear fella
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: wordslinger on July 14, 2012, 09:14:46 PM
You got a desk? Never had you down as a desk type of guy???


..two barrels and a plank...lmao!!
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: streido on July 14, 2012, 09:52:35 PM
You got a desk? Never had you down as a desk type of guy???


..two barrels and a plank...lmao!!

Sounds more like it :D

And with a beer keg for a seat no doubt too  ;D
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: wordslinger on July 15, 2012, 02:49:13 AM
...integrated roach clip...
Title: Re: new belt slow take off...
Post by: zombie on July 15, 2012, 02:56:45 AM
Planks, and barrels it is... Cooler is Always full, and no need for roach clips, the last bits go into the next bits... Hippie re-cycling. I love my job~