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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: deano on July 12, 2012, 09:52:58 PM

Title: drive belt
Post by: deano on July 12, 2012, 09:52:58 PM
hi, can anyone tell me what drive belt i need for an agility 50cc...2005 year, part number so i can source one on the net orgo buy from a supllier
thanks
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: blue on July 12, 2012, 10:03:06 PM
you need a 729-17.5-30
      or a            18         will work also.....


Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: deano on July 12, 2012, 10:06:16 PM
thanks that was quick..and can you buy them over the counter in scooter spares/shops
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: streido on July 12, 2012, 10:06:41 PM
Where are you? Europe or the US?


If your in the uk this will fit http://www.chinesemotorcyclepartsonline.co.uk/partno_DB059.php (http://www.chinesemotorcyclepartsonline.co.uk/partno_DB059.php)

You want a belt meaauring 729-17.7-30 or 729-18-30 will fit. I usually by a stock Bando belt/Nakura belt, they make a decent belt.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: streido on July 12, 2012, 10:07:35 PM
Or like blue said.....729-17.5-30 will also fit.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: deano on July 12, 2012, 10:09:12 PM
uk, west yorkshire
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: zombie on July 12, 2012, 11:02:37 PM
Well, you're in the pudding then... There's a shop right down the street! Absolutely Scooter...
http://www.sip-scootershop.com/dealerlocator/default.aspx?_language=en (http://www.sip-scootershop.com/dealerlocator/default.aspx?_language=en)
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: zombie on July 12, 2012, 11:03:21 PM
West Yorkshire pudding... Get it? :D
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: whiteknight on July 12, 2012, 11:10:07 PM
West Yorkshire pudding... Get it? :D

i do love me a yorkshire pud....if there a big pud you can fill it with a sunday roast with gravey....mmmmmm tasty.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: zombie on July 12, 2012, 11:18:16 PM
You do love to eat don't you! Keep your cats indoors people!
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: wordslinger on July 13, 2012, 01:28:44 AM
..a 732-18.5-28 is slightly longer than the oem bando, by about 5mm or so, and could result in a slightly higher top speed...


IF your scoot is fully derestricted..
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: Vivo on July 13, 2012, 02:59:51 AM
West Yorkshire pudding... Get it? :D


"His strong manly hands probed every crevice of her silken femininity, their undulating bodies writhing in sensual rhythm, as he thrust his purple-headed warrior into her quivering mound of love pudding."   ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: wordslinger on July 13, 2012, 03:11:25 AM

"His strong manly hands probed every crevice of her silken femininity, their undulating bodies writhing in sensual rhythm, as he thrust his purple-headed warrior into her quivering mound of love pudding."   ;D ;D ;D



..but honestly, if you can locate a oem BANDO belt, and ur scoot is pretty much oem...

..then that's what you really want...



peace
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: Vivo on July 13, 2012, 03:17:45 AM
..but honestly, if you can locate a oem BANDO belt, and ur scoot is pretty much oem...

..then that's what you really want...



peace

I want OEM but in my case the  OEM can't go all the way up because it's quite short.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: wordslinger on July 13, 2012, 03:21:00 AM
...zx oem belt is short...
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: zombie on July 13, 2012, 05:33:51 AM
MMmmmmm Love pudding :~
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: Vivo on July 13, 2012, 05:47:43 AM



like my sticker?




            

          (http://th47.photobucket.com/albums/f158/jasaeve/Linguistics/Arrows/th_Bigyellowhandpointingdown--anima-1.jpg)

Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: zombie on July 13, 2012, 05:54:00 AM
I already did.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: blue on July 13, 2012, 12:48:13 PM
I want OEM but in my case the  OEM can't go all the way up because it's quite short.

I tryed a longer belt all that did was hit my stater bendix and broke it. I would stick to the stock size.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: wordslinger on July 13, 2012, 01:38:58 PM
..blue, didnt you try a 748??


..thats waaay long, and there are many longer than oem size belts that will not hit the bendix..
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: streido on July 13, 2012, 06:49:15 PM
Malossi kevlar 736mm works well.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: zombie on July 13, 2012, 06:51:28 PM
Malossi 736 is what works best on the ZX too. (oem size var)
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: blue on July 13, 2012, 09:52:18 PM
..blue, didnt you try a 748??


..thats waaay long, and there are many longer than oem size belts that will not hit the bendix..
no it was a 732 eather it was to long or it was just time for the bendix to stop working right. I know when it broke it was not shoting back it to place. so the belt was hiting it.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: zombie on July 13, 2012, 09:59:33 PM
That's the deal w/ belts. OEM 730 can be longer than an after market 760. The #'s don't mean sh** in length.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: zombie on July 13, 2012, 10:00:39 PM
F   o   r   g    o   t!   Experiment with one brand. Then you have a fighting chance at finding the right one
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: wordslinger on July 14, 2012, 02:14:03 AM
..i'm becoming very partial to the gates premium line of belts...
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: zombie on July 14, 2012, 02:46:56 AM
They are either too short or too long for mine. The short one works but...
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: wordslinger on July 14, 2012, 02:49:10 AM
..i feel your pain...
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: baddi on July 14, 2012, 03:18:49 AM
I'm using malossi kevlar 743 :)
I haven't experienced any bad things with it, and with rollers which is not worn down, it gave me an extra 5 km/h. Until my rollers became worn, and the gain has disappeared.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: wordslinger on July 14, 2012, 03:29:47 AM
..yup  kevlar belts perform great!!

..just don't abuse them...
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: baddi on July 14, 2012, 03:34:20 AM
..yup  kevlar belts perform great!!

..just don't abuse them...

What would you consider abuse? :p
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: whiteknight on July 14, 2012, 11:38:40 AM
What would you consider abuse? :p

oooooh you do look like a sexy belt....mmmmm....ziiiiip.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: streido on July 14, 2012, 12:05:59 PM
I'm using malossi kevlar 743 :)
I haven't experienced any bad things with it, and with rollers which is not worn down, it gave me an extra 5 km/h. Until my rollers became worn, and the gain has disappeared.

If you shave 1mm-1.2mm off the boss then you will get similair gains on the stock 729mm belt and it wont go away once the rollers wear down. At least i havent found any loss yet anyway from mine. I ran a 736mm Malossi and gained 4-6mph on it but after a month or 2 i lost it again and couldnt get it back even on new rollers. Shaved my boss to 36.8mm and put in a stock belt and im getting similair gains. The short boss lets the ramp plate and rollers push the variator closer at full speed.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: baddi on July 14, 2012, 05:33:42 PM
If you shave 1mm-1.2mm off the boss then you will get similair gains on the stock 729mm belt and it wont go away once the rollers wear down. At least i havent found any loss yet anyway from mine. I ran a 736mm Malossi and gained 4-6mph on it but after a month or 2 i lost it again and couldnt get it back even on new rollers. Shaved my boss to 36.8mm and put in a stock belt and im getting similair gains. The short boss lets the ramp plate and rollers push the variator closer at full speed.

Cool! I'll definately try that one soon, what kind of tools have you used to get it shaved so it isn't uneven? :D
And doesn't that affect the lowest gear and takeoff? :)
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: streido on July 14, 2012, 09:42:14 PM
Cool! I'll definately try that one soon, what kind of tools have you used to get it shaved so it isn't uneven? :D
And doesn't that affect the lowest gear and takeoff? :)

I had a lathe at work so got the operator to do it on that for me. It will have to be done properly so its got a straight end and so you can measure exactly how much you shave off. Mine is 36.8, took 1,2mm off it. I got a set of electronic measuring gauges off ebay ages ago and used that to check it, was perfect.
Yes, it did very slightly reduce my take off speed but not significantly. Actually it was a less that when i ran the longer belt.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: streido on July 14, 2012, 10:06:32 PM
If you do shave it down then you prob need a washer behind the variator nut to keep the spacing or you will torque onto the threads end of the crank and the variator will still be loose. I learned this the hard way  ::)
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: wordslinger on July 14, 2012, 10:22:14 PM
..all mines have that washer already...
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: blue on July 14, 2012, 10:48:10 PM
If you do shave it down then you prob need a washer behind the variator nut to keep the spacing or you will torque onto the threads end of the crank and the variator will still be loose. I learned this the hard way  ::)

I shaved mine down but only enough so I can stell have the threads there.works for a better idle.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: streido on July 14, 2012, 11:26:11 PM
..all mines have that washer already...

Mine didnt, had a metal washer moulded into the fan and the nut is kinda flared at the end too but i had no washer. I do now tho  :)
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: wordslinger on July 15, 2012, 02:46:33 AM
..that's just weird..

..never seen a kymco with that...
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: wordslinger on July 15, 2012, 02:47:42 AM
..i spoke before thinking..

..i did see that on my budz super fever...
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: zombie on July 15, 2012, 02:52:24 AM
Mine is the same as Steroido. Someone replaced his with a 2t version. Is there also a small (1mm) ridge type washer cast onto the inside of the pulley face? to space the boss? That may be why you need to cut the boss!
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: zombie on July 15, 2012, 02:53:11 AM
..i spoke before thinking..

..i did see that on my budz super fever...

correct you are.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: wordslinger on July 15, 2012, 02:57:04 AM
..on topic...


..grab a belt, throw it in...

..if it works, keep it..if not then grab another..throw it in...if it works keep it..if not then grab another..if it works, keep it..if not then grag another..throw it in..if it works keep it...if not then grab another..if it works keep it..if not then grab another....
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: streido on July 15, 2012, 10:30:35 AM
..on topic...


..grab a belt, throw it in...

..if it works, keep it..if not then grab another..throw it in...if it works keep it..if not then grab another..if it works, keep it..if not then grag another..throw it in..if it works keep it...if not then grab another..if it works keep it..if not then grab another....


Yup, been there too. Once you find a belt that does work just take a note of it so you know for next time.
 
Zombie - i def dont have a washer cast into the pulley face tho? It looks like what was in there was all stock original when i got it, it was all still restricted and had done about 7000km i think, was a female owner so dont think s.he did anything to it apart from having it serviced locally. Maybe the fan had been swapped in the past but it def looked stock? I had had issues when i got to 45mph and it felt like it was restricted at that point cos the rollers couldnt push off the ramp plate to push the variator any closer for some reason. Soon as i shaved my boss it went past 45 with no hesitation or feeling of the restriction. It drove me mad for months trying to work out what was going on till i finally sussed it.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: blue on July 15, 2012, 02:26:37 PM
..on topic...


..grab a belt, throw it in...

..if it works, keep it..if not then grab another..throw it in...if it works keep it..if not then grab another..if it works, keep it..if not then grag another..throw it in..if it works keep it...if not then grab another..if it works keep it..if not then grab another....

just like a wife if she works throw her away if she works keep her...........
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: zombie on July 15, 2012, 10:00:31 PM
I've had three... They NEVER work.
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: baddi on July 15, 2012, 10:17:21 PM
I've had three... They NEVER work.

Well, don't i feel lucky now? ;)
Title: Re: drive belt
Post by: zombie on July 15, 2012, 10:23:12 PM
As you should... :P