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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: 08087 on July 11, 2012, 11:22:08 PM
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What have we learned over the past few decades from our outter space exploration? We've spent tons of money world wide on it, there must be some benefit to the programs.
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Youre kidding me right? :-\
What have we learned and how have we benefitted? How about where we learned where came from, how the universe was formed, that we are a small drop in a huge ocean and are lucky to be here at all, our understanding of life,the universe,and everything has advanced way beyond what the ancient stargazers could've ever dreamed of,all thanks to space travel and exploration.
Then we have things like advances in computers, electronics, aerodynamics, robotics, propulsion systems, the effects of gravity and time, we now know the universe is expanding,we know about black holes, dark matter, the spread and speed of objects in the galaxy,
Water Reclamation, Water/Air purification, climate monitoring,Global positioning systems, satellite tv, Kevlar, Lexan, memory foam, smoke detectors, Medical Imaging (Cat Scans), Fire Fighter Equipment and Suits,Cordless Tools, Shock Absorbing Helmets,Ski Boots, Failsafe Flashlight, Enriched Baby Food,Better Cardiac Pacemakers,Protective Paints, Scratch-resistant Glasses, Invisible braces, Ear Thermometer,Long-distance Telecommunications, and a whole host of other things i cant be bothered to look up.
Plus it was a great propaganda tool against Russia when you lot landed in the 60's before they did,it brought your whole country together and made you all feel good for a while, and its better than bombing the sh** out of people. If theyre busy doing this stuff it leaves less time for devising new Bombs and ways to kill each other.
......Plus it gave us Star Wars toowhich makes it worth it just for that alone.
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and Tang
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Youre kidding me right? :-\
What have we learned and how have we benefitted? How about where we learned where came from, how the universe was formed, that we are a small drop in a huge ocean and are lucky to be here at all, our understanding of life,the universe,and everything has advanced way beyond what the ancient stargazers could've ever dreamed of,all thanks to space travel and exploration.
Then we have things like advances in computers, electronics, aerodynamics, robotics, propulsion systems, the effects of gravity and time, we now know the universe is expanding,we know about black holes, dark matter, the spread and speed of objects in the galaxy,
Water Reclamation, Water/Air purification, climate monitoring,Global positioning systems, satellite tv, Kevlar, Lexan, memory foam, smoke detectors, Medical Imaging (Cat Scans), Fire Fighter Equipment and Suits,Cordless Tools, Shock Absorbing Helmets,Ski Boots, Failsafe Flashlight, Enriched Baby Food,Better Cardiac Pacemakers,Protective Paints, Scratch-resistant Glasses, Invisible braces, Ear Thermometer,Long-distance Telecommunications, and a whole host of other things i cant be bothered to look up.
Plus it was a great propaganda tool against Russia when you lot landed in the 60's before they did,it brought your whole country together and made you all feel good for a while, and its better than bombing the sh** out of people. If theyre busy doing this stuff it leaves less time for devising new Bombs and ways to kill each other.
......Plus it gave us Star Wars toowhich makes it worth it just for that alone.
To answer the first paragraph, nice to know but it doesn't do much for us as a whole. To answer the second, we didn't go to these places looking to make a cordless drill, kevlar or most of the other things you listed. Nice that it all came about but it wasn't what we went looking for.
My question is what was it that we wanted to learn that was worth all that money. Black & Decker didn't sponsor these space flights so they could make a drill.
And maybe I'm the one person that never saw a Star Wars movie but I don't see what was so great about them.
PS thanks for the INFO!
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MMMmmmmmmmm Tanggggg~
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What I learned is that no matter how great knowledge we had acquired by spending millions..we're still a big pile of sh**!!! and growing bigger!!!
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To answer the question you have to put it in context of the first explores who wondered what was beyond the Earth's horizon. If you live in a place in our world that was settled by other cultures and civilizations than you are reaping the benefit of those who wanted to go beyond the safety of their own homes and lives to see what was out there. Space will be the next frontier. Given that the worlds helium supply is dwinding the moon is being sought as an it is rich in H3 which can be used in fusion reactions and may be a possible new energy source. This is one possible reason China is aiming to reach the moon in the next few decades. Below are some of the spin off benefits of Nasa technology.
1978: Teflon-coated fiberglass developed in the 1970s as a new fabric for astronaut spacesuits has been used as a permanent roofing material for buildings and stadiums worldwide. (By the way, contrary to urban myth, NASA did not invent Teflon.)
1982: Astronauts working on the lunar surface wore liquid-cooled garments under their space suits to protect them from temperatures approaching 250 degrees Fahrenheit. These garments, further developed and refined by NASA’s Johnson Space Center, are among the agency’s most widely used spinoffs, with adaptations for portable cooling systems for treatment of medical ailments such as burning limb syndrome, multiple sclerosis, spinal injuries and sports injuries.
1986: A joint National Bureau of Standards/NASA project directed at the Johnson Space Center resulted in a lightweight breathing system for firefighters. Now widely used in breathing apparatuses, the NASA technology is credited with significant reductions in inhalation injuries to the people who protect us.
1991: Tapping three separate NASA-developed technologies in the design and testing of its school bus chassis, a Chicago-based company was able to create a safer, more reliable, advanced chassis, which now has a large market share for this form of transportation.
1994: Relying on technologies created for servicing spacecraft, a Santa Barbara-based company developed a mechanical arm that allows surgeons to operate three instruments simultaneously, while performing laparoscopic surgery. In 2001, the first complete robotic surgical operation proved successful, when a team of doctors in New York removed the gallbladder of a woman in France using the Computer Motion equipment.
1995: Dr. Michael DeBakey of the Baylor College of Medicine teamed up with Johnson Space Center engineer David Saucier to develop an artificial heart pump – based on the design of NASA’s space shuttle main engine fuel pumps – that supplements the heart’s pumping capacity in the left ventricle. Later, a team at Ames Research Center modeled the blood flow, and improved the design to avoid harm to blood cells. The DeBakey Left Ventricular Assist Device (LVAD) can maintain the heart in a stable condition in patients requiring a transplant until a donor is found, which can range from one month to a year. Sometimes, permanent implantation of the LVAD can negate the need for a transplant. Bernard Rosenbaum, a Johnson Space Center propulsion engineer who worked with the DeBakey-Saucier group said, “I came to NASA in the early 1960s as we worked to land men on the moon, and I never dreamed I would also become part of an effort that could help people’s lives. We were energized and excited to do whatever it took to make it work.â€
2000: NASA’s “Software of the Year†award went to Internet-based Global Differential GPS (IGDG), a C-language package that provides an end-to-end system capability for GPS-based real-time positioning and orbit determination. Developed at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, the software is being used to operate and control real-time GPS data streaming from NASA’s Global GPS Network. The Federal Aviation Administration has adopted the software’s use into the Wide Area Augmentation System program that provides pilots in U.S. airspace with real-time, meter-level accurate knowledge of their positions.
2000: Three Small Business Innovation Research contracts with NASA’s Langley Research Center resulted in a new, low cost ballistic parachute system that lowers an entire aircraft to the ground in the event of an emergency. These parachutes, now in use for civilian and military aircraft, can provide a safe landing for pilots and passengers in the event of engine failure, midair collision, pilot disorientation or incapacitation, unrecovered spin, extreme icing and fuel exhaustion. To date, the parachute system is credited with saving more than 200 lives.
2005: Two NASA Kennedy Space Center scientists and three faculty members from the University of Central Florida teamed up to develop NASA’s Government and Commercial Invention of the Year for 2005, the Emulsified Zero-Valent Iron (EZVI) Technology. Designed to address the need to clean up the ground of the historic Launch Complex 34 at KSC that was polluted with chlorinated solvents used to clean Apollo rocket parts, the EZVI technology provides a cost-effective and efficient cleanup solution to underground pollution that poses a contamination threat to fresh water sources in the area. This technology has potential use for the cleanup of environmental contamination at thousands of Department of Energy, Department of Defense, NASA and private industry facilities throughout the country.
-Wolf
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Ah yes! Teflon! The one they used on bullets loved by criminals because they can go thru almost anything.....
Ah! the rocket!!! the one they ride to outer space that depletes our ozone layer.
Don't worry about the ozone, the astronauts may just bring home a cure to your skin cancer because of the depleted ozone .... hmmm... ::)
Die you homeless, unemployed, and damn all healthcare! We have to buy parts for our next outerspace trip!!!
From Wikipedia: "Space debris, also known as orbital debris, space junk, and space waste, is the collection of objects in orbit around Earth that were created by humans but no longer serve any useful purpose" Damn!!!! talk about global warming!!! We're already destroying outer space!!!! Let's destroy the earth first guys!!! don't be in a hurry! we'll get to outer space later!!!
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To answer the first paragraph, nice to know but it doesn't do much for us as a whole. To answer the second, we didn't go to these places looking to make a cordless drill, kevlar or most of the other things you listed. Nice that it all came about but it wasn't what we went looking for.
My question is what was it that we wanted to learn that was worth all that money. Black & Decker didn't sponsor these space flights so they could make a drill.
And maybe I'm the one person that never saw a Star Wars movie but I don't see what was so great about them.
PS thanks for the INFO!
You couldn't be more wrong
What did you expect? Flying cars, aliens, the starship enterprise, a robot maid named Rosie
Humans have been on earth for hundreds of thousands of years and we are still discovering new things. We've been visiting space for less than a century and you expect to know the secrets of the universe.
You don't know what's so great about a movie you've never seen :D
In its day star wars was revolutionary. Today between the crappy graphics and terrible acting it's kinda a joke. But that's not the point. Star Wars was great in its day.
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And maybe I'm the one person that never saw a Star Wars movie but I don't see what was so great about them.
Oh I missed that statement! you never saw a Star Wars movie??? ??? Not even one? Man! you are something! Maybe you're already used to see those star wars creatures on your Jersey neighborhood... or maybe you're an alien.. hmmm...
I watched all episodes of star wars and even have all the DVDs. Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, etc. even Flesh Gordon and Star Babe that starred Tomi La Roux.... real heavenly bodies....
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What have we learned over the past few decades from our outter space exploration? We've spent tons of money world wide on it, there must be some benefit to the programs.
Enhanced surveillance and spying, accurate drone targeting, extremely efficient war operations overseas. Almost like a video game. Less and less 18-yr olds are coming home in caskets covered by American flag, thanks to space age technology, you can do all that over WiFi and satlink.
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To answer the first paragraph, nice to know but it doesn't do much for us as a whole
Well it does a lot for me and most other people knowing this. Maybe youre just harder to please.
we didn't go to these places looking to make a cordless drill, kevlar or most of the other things you listed. Nice that it all came about but it wasn't what we went looking for.
So what? You asked how we had benefitted from space progams, well thats some benefits that came from it. Some where accidental others were not. Satellite tv, gps, and long distance comms all came directly from space exploration, as did many of the other things i listed, we DID set out to make satellites that orbited the earth that led to these.
My question is what was it that we wanted to learn that was worth all that money.
Already answered, scientific proof/evidence to back up/prove previous theories and new scientific discoveries on mass, gravity, speed/time, chemistry, physics, biology and a whole host of other life changing and life enhancing discoveries. We are making the 1st steps out of our atmosphere just as explorers made their 1st steps off their continent and went to sea to discover new worlds centuries ago. Im sure back then there were lots of bah-humbug types who dismissed that as a total waste of time and money too, but look how it advanced us as a species. The worlds resources are finate while our populations are out growing our planet, space is infinate(as far as we know) and has plenty of resources and plenty of room for us all.
Sooner or later our sun will die and our planet will be uninhabitable so if we are still here as a species and havent killed each other off or destroyed the planet by then we need to move on to new planets to continue existing. Space colonisation will be the next big move and is the new frontier. If this doesnt excite and amaze you then i dont know what will. Were just a bunch of hairy apes yet we can already leave our planet and travel to our nearest neighbour, the moon. Give it another hundred years or so and we could have moon bases, maybe even Mars bases, and be reaching further afield looking for new civilisations and worlds. We cannot be out here alone, space travel has shown there are thousands of planets like ours which could harbour life, the odds of at least a few of them not doing so would be astronomical (pardon the pun). All of this is worth the price of the space programs around the world. The benefits to mankind far outweigh the costs.
maybe I'm the one person that never saw a Star Wars movie but I don't see what was so great about them.
Explains a lot :P
Maybe you should email NASA and ask them what they hoped to accomplish and if they achieved what they set out to find.
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Regardless of the benefits and cost, be it good or bad, whether he's is looking for something or not, man's never ending quest for more, is just human nature. Magellan got out Portugal and led an expedition. So did Columbus, and many more... after the earth.. man wants outer space, the solar system, then the universe, then the multiverse, metaverse, xenoverse, omniverse, etc, etc, etc. Man explores the woods, the backyard, the mall, and everywhere.... same as man's never ending quest to have the biggest p*nis in the world........... ;D ;D ;D So, its not a question if we have learned from it or not, benefited or not, good or bad.... it's what we are...
080, you don't watch star wars ... but you watch soap on tv... ::) ???
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080, you don't watch star wars ... but you watch soap on tv... ::) ???
;D ;D ;D
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Here ya go... Who believes Humans came from Mars?
It is my belief that Humans inhabited mars Before Earth. The current state of Mars is a direct reflection of what we are doing here. No need to get into the picto graphs around the world, or landing beacon/runways. Just a question...
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You couldn't be more wrong
What did you expect? Flying cars, aliens, the starship enterprise, a robot maid named Rosie
Humans have been on earth for hundreds of thousands of years and we are still discovering new things. We've been visiting space for less than a century and you expect to know the secrets of the universe.
You don't know what's so great about a movie you've never seen :D
In its day star wars was revolutionary. Today between the crappy graphics and terrible acting it's kinda a joke. But that's not the point. Star Wars was great in its day.
How long have humans been on earth? Yeah I'll be taking advice from you when it comes to history and things that involve a timeline.
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How long have humans been on earth? Yeah I'll be taking advice from you when it comes to history and things that involve a timeline.
Whats the point? How long do you reckon humans have been around for?
From Wiki( available elsewhere too) -
Anatomically modern humans evolved from archaic Homo sapiens in the Middle Paleolithic, about 200,000 years ago. The emergence of anatomically modern human marks the dawn of the subspecies Homo sapiens sapiens, i.e. the subspecies of Homo sapiens that includes all modern humans. The oldest fossil remains of anatomically modern humans are the Omo remains, which date to 196,000 years and include two partial skulls as well as arm, leg, foot and pelvis bones.[1]Other fossils include Homo sapiens idaltu from Herto in Ethiopia that are 150,000 years old and remains from Skhul in Israel that are 90,000 years old.
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;D
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...buncha homos...
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...buncha homos...
Who took the jam out of your doughnut word? ;) :)
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Anatomically modern humans evolved from archaic Homo sapiens in the Middle Paleolithic, about 200,000 years ago. The emergence of anatomically modern human marks the dawn of the subspecies Homo sapiens sapiens, i.e. the subspecies of Homo sapiens that includes all modern humans
..buncha homos...
;D
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:D :D :D
I'm f'in retarted ;D
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"How long have humans been on earth? Yeah I'll be taking advice from you when it comes to history and things that involve a timeline."
IDK How long? What is the first "recorded" civilization? The fruit, and monkey eating people... My theory is they/we destroyed the ozone there, created too much co2, and left in rockets to land here. When they/we landed it was dramatic, and T/we all got amnesia. When T/we woke up the fruit, and monkey eaters seemed gullible so we told them we were "gods" from the stars, and we need them to make beer, and ethanol to appease us. Then when we could not prove to them we are the real gods we told them the "Real God" is watching, and "will send them to a fire place if all the women don't get naked right now!!!"
So basicly the fruit, and monkey eaters are the prehistoric native people of Earth, and the gods are us. Funny how Science people try to link us to them... If only they knew!
So what we have here is failure to communicate.
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So by my theroy... Axy, and I have no common DNA.
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"How long have humans been on earth? Yeah I'll be taking advice from you when it comes to history and things that involve a timeline."
IDK How long? What is the first "recorded" civilization? The fruit, and monkey eating people... My theory is they/we destroyed the ozone there, created too much co2, and left in rockets to land here. When they/we landed it was dramatic, and T/we all got amnesia. When T/we woke up the fruit, and monkey eaters seemed gullible so we told them we were "gods" from the stars, and we need them to make beer, and ethanol to appease us. Then when we could not prove to them we are the real gods we told them the "Real God" is watching, and "will send them to a fire place if all the women don't get naked right now!!!"
So basicly the fruit, and monkey eaters are the prehistoric native people of Earth, and the gods are us. Funny how Science people try to link us to them... If only they knew!
So what we have here is failure to communicate.
Sound plausable to me, i think they prefered the term Monkey Men tho, fruit eaters is so insulting.
If only Nasa had had access to you Zombie all those years ago, they couldve saved themselves a fortune :D
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So by my theroy... Axy, and I have no common DNA.
Remember the movie? Darth Axy?..........."I am your father Zombie" (course now we lost 080 cos he hasnt seen it yet).
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Ps to the ps... You can spot the ones that cross bred... Martha Stewart, Jim Carrie...
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My theory is...
I love zombie philosophy ;D
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I love zombie philosophy ;D
Socrates, Plato & Aristotle dont even come close :D
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" they couldve saved themselves a fortune"
YeP! All the Churches have to give it back now... What do you think NASA would do with a piece of DNA from mars that Proved it.
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This thread is over, zombie started a new one ;D
Everybody shut up and go check out my pics and video :o
http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=7075.0 (http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=7075.0)
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..man is roughly 6000 years old...the ADAM man, and anybody that dont think so can go to hell...
..oh, wait..i neednt say so, because they already are!!!
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..............silly me.........
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Ok soooo That makes sense, and a time line for 008. We're 6,000 years on this rock! The natives are gone. We killed them. Just like the planet itself. Now if anyone wants to look up how old some of the pictographs of "space suit men, and landing strips are... This thread may have just ended civilization. Thanks to 008 the Anti Christ. Used Axy as a decoy to get someone to dig up the dirty truth! Were from MARS!
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now it's very clear..... all these space travels.... explorations.....
we want to go home!!! ....
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now it's very clear..... all these space travels.... explorations.....
we want to go home!!! ....
This is home now son... Get used to it.
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we learned this.... ;D
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