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Title: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: willmax on July 01, 2012, 10:27:30 PM
I have a 2-stroke People 50 (2005) that has a bad fuel filter.  I've had it at a local shop that sells and services Kymco scooters for almost a month waiting for a new filter to come in.  Apparently they're back-ordered at Kymco America.  Does anyone know of another supplier of this part?  I'm getting frustrated about having to wait so long.
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: Peters on July 01, 2012, 11:17:05 PM
Any universal in-line fuel filter will work. Thing is you have to find one that fits the tiny fuel lines on these things. 1/8" - 3/16" universal in-line filter will work. You can find them on eBay or maybe a small engine shop locally.
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: willmax on July 01, 2012, 11:24:10 PM
Thanks very much.  I'll see if I can find one.
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: JJPhare on July 09, 2012, 03:26:59 AM
I read about replacing the Kymco fuel filter with a standard one from the auto store. It is difficult to find Kymco filters even at the dealer.
I have a 2003 People 50. The fuel filter casing has 3 tubes connected yet the new filters only have two connections. What do you do with #3?
Also, how do you add brake fluid? I can see the level from the right handle (throttle) however the cover seems almost impossible to remove? Any suggestions?
Thanks for any assistance to this newbie from Denver.
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: wordslinger on July 09, 2012, 03:36:18 AM
..are you sure that you are looking at the filter, or the fuel petcock?


..the filter only has an inlet and outlet..the vacuum operated petcock has three tubes...
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: Peters on July 09, 2012, 03:38:18 AM
Ok, you're right. I should have know that  :-[ :D

Anyway, on the ppl the fuel filter doubles as the auto cock. This is a vacuum controlled valve that shuts when the engine isn't running. So the third line on top is a vacuum line. You can either install a universal filter as well as a manual valve, or you can order an OEM assembly. Here's a link to an OEM parts supplier, Stadium Yamaha. They usually have the best prices around. I think you can mention the forum and get a discount  :)

http://www.stadiumyamaha.com/pages/OemParts?aribrand=YAM#/Kymco_USA/BA10AD_People_50_Single_Seat/Fuel_Tank/2K01010005/01010043 (http://www.stadiumyamaha.com/pages/OemParts?aribrand=YAM#/Kymco_USA/BA10AD_People_50_Single_Seat/Fuel_Tank/2K01010005/01010043)

Item 379 is what you're talking about right?

...

BTW, welcome to the forum  :)
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: wordslinger on July 09, 2012, 03:43:43 AM
...here's a pic of my 01...

..with a inline filter...petcock is below, to the left..
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: Peters on July 09, 2012, 03:45:38 AM
Right, there is a filter element in there as well. The bowl screws off the bottom.
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: wordslinger on July 09, 2012, 03:46:37 AM
..woww...i did not know that...
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: wordslinger on July 09, 2012, 03:49:42 AM
..if it will function without the insert, remove it and install an inline, something like the pic...there's a lot of smaller ones available...
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: Peters on July 09, 2012, 03:50:50 AM
I was just thinkin the same thing  ;D
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: JJPhare on July 09, 2012, 03:53:40 AM
My 2003 looks a little different than the photo. On the right rear under the seat there is a case with two screws holding a casing. Unscrew the case and inside is a fuel filter. I'm still cinfused as to what to do with the 3rd tube but I will contact the link that was sent.

Also, any suggestions regarding adding brake fluid? I can see the level from the right side of the throttle. The front is difficult to remove. Is the CDI under there also?
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: wordslinger on July 09, 2012, 03:55:44 AM
..cdi is under the front cover, and it issa bitch!..be careful...

..can you post a pic of this filter case??
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: Peters on July 09, 2012, 03:59:55 AM
The brake reservoir is a pain to get to. I believe you have to remove the mirrors, turn signals, and all the screws. There is a bolt right up underneath the headlight too. Then the cover just pops off. Remove the master cylinder reservoir cover and fill it halfway up the sight glass.

The filter/auto cock is in wordslingers pic. It is the black plastic cylinder with a flange at the top where it bolts on.
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: JJPhare on July 09, 2012, 04:04:43 AM
I don't have a pic at the moment but will post later. Thanks for everyone's help.
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: JJPhare on July 09, 2012, 06:26:47 PM
Part 379 from that link is the one I'm seeking ($35)however an in-line filter ($7) seems much more reasonable. I appreciate the picture from wordslinger however, I am still confused about what I do with the vacuum line that dangles after installing an in-line fuel filter. To what do I connect it or attach?
Thanks also for the warning regarding getting to the reservoir for the brake fluid. Is it worth trying or better to take to a dealer nearly 15 miles away?
Finally, do I just need to disconnect the green wire on the CDI to de-restrict or do I need to replace the spacer as discussed in other posts? I have a 2003 People 50 2T.
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: wordslinger on July 09, 2012, 07:25:30 PM
..JJP, you will leave the petcock hooked up as is, with the exception of the fuel line going into it, which will come from the inline filter, like in my pic...

..doesn't have to be exactly like that, as the filter in the pic is a temporary one for me...

..the vacuum hose must be connected, in order for the fuel petcock to open, and allow fuel flow from the tank to the carb...
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: Peters on July 10, 2012, 12:15:58 AM
The black cylinder screws off the bottom of the OEM filter/auto cock(item 379). Pull the filter element out and reinstall the cylinder. Leave all three hoses connected to it. Then cut the fuel line going from the tank to the OEM filter/auto cock(item 379) somewhere in the middle. Install the inline filter. Should look similar to words pic when you're done.
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: JJPhare on July 10, 2012, 01:32:33 AM
Peters / Wordslinger

Now it makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up.

On the 2003 people 50, do you know if I just need to disconnect the green wire from the CDI to de-restrict or do I need to also change the spacer as described elsewhere in the forum.

Finally, in your opinion, is changing the CVT belt a challenging feat?

many thanks for your invaluable info.
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: wordslinger on July 10, 2012, 01:37:39 AM
..do not disconnect the green wire without derestricting the drive boss!!!

http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=6133.30 (http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=6133.30)

..the green wire comes out of the bottom of the cdi, not in the multi-pin connector...
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: wordslinger on July 10, 2012, 01:52:01 AM
Finally, in your opinion, is changing the CVT belt a challenging feat?

..it is simple, if you have the right tools...

..google youtube vids concerning cvt belt changing...

..there's hundreds of them!

                    ;D

..and you're quite welcome   :D  it's what we try to do...

..help a brother or sister out!...aannnd have a little fun all the while...




peace
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: Peters on July 10, 2012, 01:58:46 AM
No problem man

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Finally, in your opinion, is changing the CVT belt a challenging feat?
Not at all. Just take your time since you've never done it. Pay attention to the way it comes apart and put it all back together the same way. You can use an impact wrench to get the front and rear pulleys off. Go easy though. Turn the air pressure down if using an pneumatic impact wrench. Electric impacts don't pull the same torque. Either way, just a few quick pulls of the trigger should get the nut off. Don't go crazy on it  ;)
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: JJPhare on July 10, 2012, 03:07:49 AM
Wordslinger et al,

I bought my 2003 PPL 50 from a guy in Wyoming. I heard that one is supposed to get a "drive boss" when purchased new. Is a drive boss a part easy to purchase or is it called something else? The seller did give me an Airsal kit that he purchased years ago. Does that accomplish the same thing?

Thanks again
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
Post by: Peters on July 10, 2012, 03:15:41 AM
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Airsal kit that he purchased years ago. Does that accomplish the same thing?
No that must be a BBK. Cylinder, piston, rings, ect...?

What kind of top speed are you getting right now?

Item 100
http://www.stadiumyamaha.com/pages/OemParts?aribrand=YAM#/Kymco_USA/BA10AD_People_50_Single_Seat/Variator/2K01010005/01010013 (http://www.stadiumyamaha.com/pages/OemParts?aribrand=YAM#/Kymco_USA/BA10AD_People_50_Single_Seat/Variator/2K01010005/01010013)

Call if you do order it. Make sure you're getting the derestricted boss. The one you want is all the same diameter. Restricted boss has larger diameter shoulder on it.
Title: Re: 2005 2-stroke People 50 fuel filter
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