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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: acrab78 on June 27, 2012, 08:46:44 PM
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Ok thinking about dropping a littlw money in the scoot and getting a stage 6 clutch and clutch bell...
This is the one with the clutch springs mounted in reverse.... Just figure the stock clutch is junky after changing its springs etc...
Is the stage 6 a good one for the money etc or would another one be better for less money?
Will also be changing out the stock variator at the same time. Opinions on this or the molossi multivar is king here???
Looking for more power up hills and decent top speed. Rider is 220lbs. right now 50mph downhill and 40-45 flats. Drops to 20-30 uphill
Thanks!
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sounds like your doing good now with the speed not much more you can do.I picked up a used gy6 scoot motor and took the clutch off and im useing it on my agilty . its harder for the bigger riders to
make scoots go faster. best thing for ya is a bigger scoot 125 or bigger. or a 70 kit.but then you are putting stress on the drive train.
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Yeah I know its still a 50 cc just trying to see if it is worth justifying a couple hundred bucks or so for upgrades
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..i ran the stage6 mkII clutch in my 09 a50 and loved it!!!
..that's an awesome clutch...i ran it in both my s9s for a while as well...
..it's infinately adjustable, and once you get a good feel for it, you can dial, i mean really dial-in your takeoff..
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Yeah I know its still a 50 cc just trying to see if it is worth justifying a couple hundred bucks or so for upgrades
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Me my self I would just do the little up grades cut cdi jets and rollers. and if you wana try open air filter to. a 15000 clutch spring will do the trick. but yet again if you got the cash go for it unless you have a budget director in the house.
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Yeah have pretty much done all those cut cdi 1500spring messing with rollers too but bought 5g and they sucked in my scoot so put the stock ones back in...
Just seems like the stock clutch looks cheap and even a decent naraku would be better.... Dunno if it would make much of a difference...
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It makes a huge difference in the power you feel. Set one (clutch) really high, and you will have a feel for how adjustable they are. I ran a malossi clutch/var for years, and had NO issues at all. I recently switched to Jassil for thee var, and stage 6 mk2 for the clutch, and I can tell you the Jassil did 4-5mph better top end than the malossi. It's five I never had for free.
The clutch I haven't run yet but I already see it is better built than the Malossi Delta, and has much more user friendly tunning. I'd recommend them.
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..me too...recommend one, IF you got a lil patience and want to really do some cvt tuning...
..z, i'm running the delta in my s9 now, one click outta max...thinking of trying that next click...
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I started at the highest of all settings, and red flies. Wound up with blue/and stayed maxed on the clips and weight. That's the Malossi... I haven't tried the stg6 yet. Plan on doing much the same... Start with red, and all the weights installed...screws all the way tight. Start by loosening the screws to see where it all ties together. I'm actually trying to set up a home brew dyno. Just a roller set up, and a laptop... I'll have alot of tuning to do.
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...my HiT delivers today...
..2 day shipping..
..opening up a whole new can...
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Never ends...
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On these adjustable clutches do you have to fully remove the rear pulley to adjust it or just remove the clutch bell?
Sounds like that maybe my next mod................... :)
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The stage six can remain installed for everything except the brass weights. The bell only has to come off for them.
The Malossi you have to remove/tear down for every adjustment. It's solid as a rock tho.
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Well my stock clutch still had some life in it yet but once it need replaced i think i will def upgrade it, prob later in the yr.
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I'd get the stage 6. It's just easier to tune than the Malossi
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I'd get the stage 6. It's just easier to tune than the Malossi
hmmmm i have a Malossi clutch and a Stage 6 bell.....im gonna have fun wooop!! ;D
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hmmmm i have a Malossi clutch and a Stage 6 bell.....im gonna have fun wooop!! ;D
..my stage6 and delta will not work together!..on my s9...
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Oooooops...
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..well, i can squeeze the oem driven and moving pulley, with the delta clutch.. all the way until it hits that stage6 bell...
..that should not happen...
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With mine the pulley hits the clutch about 3mm before true full open. I'm gonna use the Malossi in the GY6
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..mine too..
..debating on taking about 4mm off the bell....
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..mine too..
..debating on taking about 4mm off the bell....
you can do that . what does that do for the scoot.
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It would allow me to use the bell with any clutch/torque driver setup...
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No... My pulley hits the actual clutch. Not the bell. Yours can be shaved to fit. Mine has to be shimmed. Malossi doesn't really trial fit everything I think...
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..true..my naraku td with the malossi hits the clutch...
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Yeah. Thats what I mean.
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I'm waiting on a few transmission parts this week (Multivar, 1500 contra, variator fan, then sliders once I figure out what weight I want) and I'm thinking about getting the Stage 6 MKII clutch after I get this parts run in. If I get the Stage 6 will I also have to get a new clutch bell to make it worth it?
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..the stage 6 is a awesome clutch, and will work well with the oem bell...
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So to clarify, is the different between a $100 clutch bell and a $50 clutch bell worth the extra dollars? I assume it's just a quality difference and not size or anything...
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It's all about the HYPE! The NEW Malossi is a safety bell that will capture shrapnel if the clutch explodes. That is the best bell you can buy. Bells like the Nakaru are built with the same steel/methods as the OEM. Some have a second "skin" applied on top for looks. The Stage 6 MKII is an actual milled piece vs stamped steel. I haven't run it yet but it appears much stronger than OEM/Malossi Delta. Unless you have a specific design, or use for the scoot any of the top brand bells are fine. Just stay away from ebay/cheap/China replacements. These are common stamped steel, and have very little strength. The welds are "spot welds". One weld cracks, and the bell goes where it wants.
Just to top it all off... I prefer the bells with fans built in, and the lighter the better.
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I figured there was something to it when I saw they range from $30 to $150. I only install quality parts o. My agility. You definitely get what you pay for when it comes to scooter parts.
This other forum I check out once in a while is full of people with Chinese scooters that install the cheapest parts they can find, always seems like one step forward two steps back...
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I tried that route with the Ruima build. You get what you pay for, and then you throw it out.
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Hear the get what you pay for stuff... Was thinking about that stage 6 but due to budget constraints looking for a more midrange clutch...
Have been thinking about getting the naraku racing clutch and bell... Together they are around 120 or so. should still be a good step up from stock....
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You can get a stage 6 sport, and bell for less. There are plenty of options. Avoid the "no name" ebay crap.
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What is the difference between the Stage 6 Sport and MKII?
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..you will pay for performance...
...high end performance parts cost more, but deliver the goods...
..the very best i've ever bought for the money, on my a50s, were malossi parts...
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The "sport clutch" doesn't have the adjusters for bite, as well as the add on weights. It adjusts just like the OEM...spring changes. Unless you are planning on 10+hp there is no real "need" for a competition clutch. The sport set is way better than OEM.