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Scooters - 125 to 300 => LIKE 200i => Topic started by: bebo55 on May 26, 2012, 12:14:41 PM
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What great news to see this forum. I just got my new Like 200i LX from a dealer in Chiago, rented a truck and brought it home. So I'm riding this bike around town, alternating between 30, 40 mph and punching the throttle now and then. All it can muster is a speedo 50 mph. Considering maybe old gas from the dealer, I ran it nearly empty, got new gas and see no increase in performance. The dealer only put 1/2 gallon of gas in the tank - i'm sure it sloshed around on the bumpy-uhaul-fast 300 mile freeway ride home - but it's hard to imagine it pushing anything much into the vent line.. because it's not under any pressure like it would have been if gas was filled up to the neck. So... it sounds nice at idle and up to 40 mph but punching it, it sounds like a really open 'whah' without much oomph behind it. I feel sick. I can't imagine ever getting to 60 mph so a good 10 mph low is tough to take at 195 lbs. Have you guys seen anything similar... any thoughts?
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Grats on the new bike! Make sure you run Premium 93 octane gas in it and also add some Sta-Bil Ethanol Treatment to it if it is a 10% ethanol blend. You can buy the Sta-Bil at most auto parts stores or Walmart. It is about $10 or less for a small bottle but only takes a tiny bit each tankful. Use it every time you fill up.
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Alternatively, you can use Seafoam if the Sta-Bil Ethanol treatment is not available in your area.
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THanks! I've got 93 in it. will definitely hit the additive. I wonder if 10% ethanol at 93 octane is capable of causing the poor high-end performance?
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Hello, I got my 200i last July in Indy. like you I was initially unimpressed with top end. I weigh 185# . After 1200 mi. it began to run a little better after break-in. It will top out a liitle over 60. I commute to work reg. on 40-45 mph roads. I do love the response and smoothness. hope this helps. P.S. I added a windshield. :)
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Thanks very much for your hopeful outlook. I love this machine. I feel like a boy with a new dog. For changing the oil, the manual notes a side oil drain plug, while the Like 50/125 repair manual notes the bottom oil drain/screen. My like 200i also has an identical bottom oil drain/screen. Is there a preferred drain?
That's got to be a blast commuting with your Like. I can't wait for my high-viz orange helmet to come in. What windshield did you get?
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I drain the oil from the side plug as it is a "no mess" process. You only have to make sure you don't drop the washer or the bolt. From the bottom, you'll get your fingers covered with oil and you have to try to catch the cover, spring and screen. I drain from the side first, replace that then remove the bottom plug to check the screen. I changed my engine and gear oil at 180 miles with dino oil and just did my 600 mile oil change and switched to full synthetic. I haven't had a chance to ride again since I did the 600 mile oil change 2 days ago.
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Thanks! makes good sense.
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In a scoot, not only the engine needs breaking-in but the cvt system as well. There's great friction inside there like the belt, drive face, clutch, rollers, etc. They are not even recommended to be ridden hard during the first few hundred miles. I weigh 185 lbs. and only have a 125cc (S8). 60mph top and 65 on a really flat road.
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Thanks Vivo! Maybe I've been a bit hard on it, Here she is, all drained, changed and rested. What do you guys think about my safety color scheme options... I'm going for a neon switchback jacket and a Shuberth Hi-viz Orange helmet. This CLASH will definitely be seen. If anybody hits me, they are guaranteed a ticket!@! can't say "i didn't see him". I'm so far favoring the obnoxious head on fire with neon jacket colors so I can be more confident in traffic. Or maybe it might look better to get a white helmet to match the bike, or a hi-viz neon to match my jacket? Are y'all being noticed well in traffic.
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Hello, Nice looking scoot! I have one just "Like" it on order, just can't wait. By the way what color is the glove box door on your bike? I have seen them with blue or white doors. Thanx... Len
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Thanks, the glove box is white. It was delivered to the dealer in April so I think you'll get white when yours comes in. I think the blue was a first take by kymco.
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Are y'all being noticed well in traffic.
LED strips are good. They are bright and consumes very little power. You can stick them anywhere and come in different colors.
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Bebo how is the breaking coming along. Is the top end increasing? I should be picking mine up tomorrow.
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not well. It's not increasing past 53 mph on a straight level new pavement - same as the day i got it only now have 1100 miles. Here's what I think I did wrong: The dealer told me he got up to 60 no problem, so I've been pounding this thing trying to get up to that, only to find out he was mistakenly talking about kilometers/hr. :/ Although I changed the factory oil to a simple oil I used castrol GTX which i now hear was easy to glaze cylinders back in the '70s. Not real significant I suppose but the real deal is I went on about 10 - 30 mile trips at 45 mph without stopping each trip, so the engine probably got pretty hot and may have glazed the cylinders. I probably should have made it more intermittent. Good thing though is I'm not burning oil so...
Moral to the story: Old school oil and don't get it too hot...
It would be interesting to see what most others are seeing with their Likes.
Congrats on the Delivery!!
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just ride and ride bebo.. you'll notice the difference in smoothness and speed several oil changes later...
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If your not burning oil your probably good. Haven't really topped mine out yet but it gets up to 50 pretty easy
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in addition to all the other comments remember for all intent and purposes this is a 150cc engine. so it only has so much to give. still, it should get to over 60mph indicated and at least that much actual. heck my Agility has seen 72mph a few times (64mph actual) and its a 125
also unless the FI system NEEDS high octane gas for some reason (doubt it) just use 87. do not use 92 imo as its not necessary and burns too hot. i have read it can actually have an adverse affect on performance and durability. a change to 87 may help your performance or not but down the road it should be better for the scooter
http://2strokebuzz.com/2010/11/12/24-dr-octane (http://2strokebuzz.com/2010/11/12/24-dr-octane)
http://www.modernbuddy.com/forum/topic21671.html (http://www.modernbuddy.com/forum/topic21671.html)
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The owners manual calls for high octane unleaded. I suggest you follow that recommendation.
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I have a super 8 125cc and use 97 octane all the time. Yes 97. (V-Power Nitro+ Racing) Engine is cooool.... not hot...
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all well and fine
87 here and 64mph out of a 125. so i am comfortable with my recommendation
so far as using what the manual calls for? its not always necessary or best. for instance my A125 manual calls for 15w40 dino oil. but many use synthetic. hell, maybe even most. and of different weights. and all that is fine, too. but not what the manual calls for and no harm is done. same with octane rating for gas.
the Kymco 125cc is the 150cc is the 163cc. Unless the FI system requires higher octane these small engines don't need it. does it make a difference in performance? for some, maybe. But for many others not
i used to use 92, too. but i went to 87 a few months back with no adverse affects. speedo hit 72mph the other day with 87. that fuel is fine and its cheaper. these are simple, small engines. they don't need "premium" anything. especially if their is even a small chance of higher octane fuel doing harm. lower octane certainly does no harm in my expereince
i also use the 15w40 dino oil. after all, its what the manual recoommends ;)
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Another point... don't buy fuel anywhere even if the brand is the same. Different stations are in different locations, different conditions, and are managed differently by different people. Stations must be clean, pumps calibrated daily, pumps must undergo regular maintenance, tanks water/moisture free, etc.
I experimented with three different gas stations of the same Company(brand) and got three different results. (quantity and quality-wise)... ;)
I have used 87 before in my chinese scoot... it's ok..
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bebo55 -- You bike looks like a freakin' cop bike!
That's completely insane and I like it. ;D
You just need a POLIZEI sticker and you're good to go!
Like so:
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Very cool... and my euro hi-vis orange helmet and can start supplementing my income!
I'll pull over peeps for rolling stops! lol
I pulled the CVT cover and blew out the belt dust Vivo talked about. I was sure to aim for the holes in the clutch housing and saw significant dust fly out of there. Immediately I got the responsive clutch back. Yep, mine gets up to 50 pretty easily. Let me know if you also ultimately get up to 60 or more ckg before I yank and hone the engine this winter... If at 1100 miles that's plenty for hopeful break-in... maybe it's time for some synth.
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I use nothing but synthetic oils. It keeps everything nice, and clean
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or this....
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Like Fernando Lamas used to say on the Carson show, "Johnny, It is better to look good than to feel good" ;D I'm ordering my PA speakers as we speak.