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Scooters - 125 to 300 => LIKE 200i => Topic started by: Coachz on May 20, 2012, 12:07:31 AM
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My 2011 has 600 miles and is not starting reliably. When hold the left brake and press the start button, it makes a noise like a solenoid is engaging but the starter is not turning. After a half dozen attempts it usually starts. Any ideas please? It make like a small clunk hoise but doesnt turn over, than after hitting the starter button over and over it turns over and starts. Not making me want to go anywhere and be stranded.
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If you bought it new, warranty will fix the problem. See your local dealer. As for the cause... shorted wire, bad relay, starter going bad, etc.
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could be the starter solenoid, but, clean the battery and starter connections first, charge battery then try starting again.
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I bought it used. The battery voltage is 12v with no load and 11.55v with the key on and lights on. It's a 2011 model so is the battery under warranty since I bought the scooter used ?
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I bought it used. The battery voltage is 12v with no load and 11.55v with the key on and lights on. It's a 2011 model so is the battery under warranty since I bought the scooter used ?
The warranty is not transferable from the original owner to you, but you definitely need to replace the battery.
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I got a new battery today and seems better. Still some no starts but the battery is not fully charged yet. I'll report back as I test more.
Thanks. Do i have any warranty on the bike since i bought it used? 2011 model
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An iridium plug will help you start eaiser . Good luck .
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It is a bad solenoid. If it clunks that means it is energizing, but not flowing current thru the contacts. Check your yellow pages for a starter rebuild shop, and have it rebuilt for 1/3rd the cost of new.
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Ps Check the battery cable too. It may be bad/loose at the starter.
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The warranty on these are not transferable. So no, you don't have a warranty.
Fully charge your battery before attempting to use it, otherwise you can damage it or decrease its longevity. Once your battery is fully charged and you have checked all connections, you should be OK. If you still have the problem, now it will be even easier to pinpoint since you eliminated the battery and the connections.
For your previous battery, a voltage of 11.5v means it was down to 20%. Here's a little breakdown...
12.6v or higher - Fully Charged
12.5v - 90%
12.42v - 80%
12.32v - 70%
12.2v - 60%
12.06v - 50%
11.9v - 40%
11.75v - 30%
11.58v - 20%
11.31v - 10%
10.5v - Bone Dead
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Starter connections are tight new fully charged battery 13v and still klunks a few times then starts. Very repeatable. What is transferable under warranty?
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Its a 2011. Is it under warranty? I just bought the scooter used. Are there any docs on the web on how to remove the starter? Is the solenoid separate from the starter? How to remove it to test please ?
It is a bad solenoid. If it clunks that means it is energizing, but not flowing current thru the contacts. Check your yellow pages for a starter rebuild shop, and have it rebuilt for 1/3rd the cost of new.
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Im having a hard time getting the side covers off. Any suggestions how to get to the solonoid and starter?
Im dead in the water till I can get this fixed. Bummer, had the scooter two weeks and Im broken.
Thanks very much
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Try it thru the seat pan. Usually that gives the most access. Plastics are a puzzle
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thanks, i'll give that a try. Do you know if the solenoid is in the starter or separate but nearby the starter ?
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I think its fixed! Took the seat off and tightened the solonoid posts. Seems to start every time now. Thanks for the great help guys !!
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Cool.
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Rock solid now. Zoom zoom !
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Mine started doing the same thing over the weekend. I could hear it charging, but the starter wouldn't rotate. Takes about 6 tries or so. I'll try the same fix this afternoon. As for everyone saying the warranty isn't transferable, that's not what Kymco told me. I bought a 2012 Like200i used in April with 2,000 miles on it, originally sold in October of 2011. I emailed and asked if the 2 year warranty is transferable and this is what they said...
"We, KYMCO USA, Inc., would be able to transfer any remaining manufacturer's warranty upon receipt of the VIN and the new owner's name, address & phone #.
If Extended Warranty was purchased by the original owner, that would need to be transferred with our partner, Cornerstone. Contact information on this should be on the extended warranty contract, if applicable."
I've still got to send it to them and get in touch with my local shop.
Thanks for the info on the fix!
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I would send those papers ASAP. Don't wait for a failure.
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my brand new 200i sometimes delivers a single turn of the starter, only to stop. Almost like it has a 'dead spot' on the armature of the starter motor. Push it and it's normal on the second try. weird.
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They are low torque motors. They can get stopped by the piston if their is ANY weak link. Corrosion on the terminals/loose connector/bad solenoid contacts.
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actually YES the warranties are transferable. Just email getinfo@kymcousa.com and ask about it. i just transferred mine with 1.5 years left on it.
FYI MFers
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Happened to me over the last two weekends. Still under 300 miles.
Ignition set to ON. Push the starter button, and just a single CLICK sound. Tried a few more times, and same result.
Checked all the eletrical "connections" and everything is tight. Checked the battery's resting voltage, and under a load -- and, voltage is > 12.6.
It's completely random, fires up on the first try, or after several single CLICK efforts.
Any ideas? Starter relay? Anyone tried to install a kick-starter (from the People S200? Isn't it the same motor - just carbed, instead of FI)
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Just replace the solenoid.
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Does anyone know the solenoid connector that's compatible with the Like 200's wiring harness?
Is this a good replica?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Starter-Solenoid-GY6-Scooter-Moped-Go-Kart-50cc-150-/120841294097?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D511653467631371821%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Starter-Solenoid-GY6-Scooter-Moped-Go-Kart-50cc-150-/120841294097?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D511653467631371821%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26)
Does anyone have a picture of the replacement solenoid?
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The one you linked is just fine. Just hard wire it to yours. Don't worry about the plug. Unless you want to spend 40.00 more!
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Thanks to all, for the notes on this forum. Replaced the solenoid this week, and no more no-start / just an audible CLICK problem.
Purchased a new one from eBay, search for "scooter solenoid", the seller is "az1imports".
The one they sell is a perfect match (ie. connector and size) to the OEM one installed on the Kymco Like 200i. Only thing I did differently was used the OEM rubber encasing, and that seemed to be a better fit to the metal brackets on the frame.
One thing worth noting is that the wiring from eBay was shorter than the one that came with the scooter, and made the installation more challenging than it had to.
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:-* ;D
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Check the minus or ground wire bolt on the starter it has no lock washer no lock tight or anything to keep it from loosening up. It is also too short for its application. It should be replaced with a bolt 1/4" longer if at all possible. If that bolt comes loss your scooter will not start. It is only in by a few threads so don't tighten it you will strip it out of the soft aluminum.
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The warranty on these are not transferable. So no, you don't have a warranty.
Fully charge your battery before attempting to use it, otherwise you can damage it or decrease its longevity. Once your battery is fully charged and you have checked all connections, you should be OK. If you still have the problem, now it will be even easier to pinpoint since you eliminated the battery and the connections.
For your previous battery, a voltage of 11.5v means it was down to 20%. Here's a little breakdown...
12.6v or higher - Fully Charged
12.5v - 90%
12.42v - 80%
12.32v - 70%
12.2v - 60%
12.06v - 50%
11.9v - 40%
11.75v - 30%
11.58v - 20%
11.31v - 10%
10.5v - Bone Dead
Warranty IS fully transferable. Warranty starts when scooter is first registered for road use - warranty continues for 2 yrs from that date.
Contact KYMCO to transfer the warranty.
Stig
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The warranty is not transferable from the original owner to you, but you definitely need to replace the battery.
wait what? I thought Kymco was one of the only ones that allowed a warranty to transfer. To transfer one just needs a Kymco dealer to do an inspection, or is it limited to only certain models/model years?
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In the States, you contact Kymco directly to register your new ownership.
I think most of the big names have transferable warranties....but Honda and Suzuki are for only 1 year.
Stig
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Thanks to all, for the notes on this forum. Replaced the solenoid this week, and no more no-start / just an audible CLICK problem.
Purchased a new one from eBay, search for "scooter solenoid", the seller is "az1imports".
The one they sell is a perfect match (ie. connector and size) to the OEM one installed on the Kymco Like 200i. Only thing I did differently was used the OEM rubber encasing, and that seemed to be a better fit to the metal brackets on the frame.
One thing worth noting is that the wiring from eBay was shorter than the one that came with the scooter, and made the installation more challenging than it had to.
Thanks for the pointers in this post - turns out my spare-parts Like 125 had a dodgy solenoid and is now turning over well on the screwdriver short.
It'll never run again but at least I know the motor is OK!
Cheers