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Scooters - 50cc => Super 9 => Topic started by: nikakv on May 06, 2012, 09:02:06 PM
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HI!
Im new here, and got this scooter 3 days ago
I have a 02 mod. lc.
tried to cut the green wire in the CDI box today.. not a good Idea!
I wanted to remove the revlimiter, but it is stil stucked at 45 km/h.
Here is the problem:
Now my scoot wont start! Ive reconected the wire, but it will not start anymore. The spark plug is brand new. and the e-start is good.
do you know the reason?
And please, tell me how to make it faster:) its stuck in 45 km/h!
THANK you
// Niklas - Norway
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There is also a drive boss in the CVT that needs to be replaced with an unrestricted one.
The green wire doesn't need to be cut - it just unplugs, and is on the back of the variator, not up front with all the rest of the plugs. If you cut that green wire, the CDI will not be grounded, and will not work right.
(http://www.scooterinvasion.net/pics/liquidsuper9dcwiring2.jpg)
The green wire in the photo here is not the one to cut.
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Thank you for quick answer:)
Ive ordered a unrestricted drive boss from e-bay now.
So Its no point cutting any of the wire on this model? Non of them has anything to do with limits?
And why will it not start when the green is grounded again:( It worked just fine when i cutted it, and allso when I grouded it with the -pole. but when i reconected it as original, it didnt work. So no it will not start what ever I do:(
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If it runs when you connect direct to ground then just run it like that. The wire may have had a bad connection somewhere that failed when you disturbed it. The light green on Kymco is the ground. No harm will result.
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...check your fuses...
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Its no longer starting with it directly connectet neither:(
I found a black box beside the cdi. This one was a bit rusty inside. I hope this is the only problem..
Is it any chance I messed up the cdi box while testing different ways connecting the green wire?
How many fuses are they? the little glass fuse beside the battery is all fine.
Thank you guys
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Its no longer starting with it directly connectet neither:(
I found a black box beside the cdi. This one was a bit rusty inside. I hope this is the only problem..
Is it any chance I messed up the cdi box while testing different ways connecting the green wire?
How many fuses are they? the little glass fuse beside the battery is all fine.
Thank you guys
The black box is the starter relay. If it's rusty, it should be cleaned up a little. THere are a couple of fuses, both will be close to the CDI/starter relay. You have to pull the whole CDI out, and you should see the green wire that you need to unplug to de-restrict it.
Do you know if your scooter has spark at the plug?
~Josh
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Both of the fuses are in good shape
But there is no spark on the plug anymore. Ive just testet with a new one
maybe the Coil then..
Argh! I should never cut that wire! :P
thanks allot for your reply
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..do you know how to check spark??
..by grounding??
..have to ask...
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In a thread here called "Links to Manuals" under the general section of the forum, you will find a manual for either your S9 or a people 2t. There is a test guide to figure which part is bad. could be too many things so you will have to do some "homework"
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Checking ohms on green wire (ground wire) + negative battery should give low resitance.
Checking volts DC on blue/black wire (this is the wire from the ignition switch, supplies 12 volts DC) + negative battery terminal should give 12+ volts.
Checking ohms on blue/yellow wire (this is the wire from the pickup coil) + negative terminal should give 130ish-160ish ohms. A test light (LED type) should flash when turning the engine over if set up the same way.
Test light on black/yellow wire (this is the wire to the coil) should flash when engine is turned over.
Double check kill switch also. Sounds like a simple thing, but I've seen it enough times. :)
~Josh
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Ive checked for spark.. nothing..
Thanks for the manual link! - but I simply dont find the problem..
and josh - I dont have this tools to check it.
Is it possible I broke the cdi when I cut the green wire.. I allso dropped it at the + pole, so i sparked :-\
thanks
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What do you mean by dropped it at the plus pole/sparked? The Battery +? If the green wire going to the cdi hit (12v+) it fried.
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then the mysterie is solved.. thank you.
Then I order a nex cdi box and trie that.
niklas
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Keep us posted.
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Have been out of town, but now Im back..
This is a bit awkward.. but just found out it was a ac, not a lc..
Anyway, is it possible to check if the CDI is fried? Or do I have to buy a new to check?
How big chance is it for the CDI make the startproblem after it was directly in contact with the positive terminal?
thanks again
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In my experience any time polarity is reversed it will fry delicate ignition controllers.
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Ok.. thanks
Ive searched for the box for a while now.. but cant find it.
Do you know where to look for a 2002 ac box?
possible something else need to be changed after this stupid act?
this is really helpfull :)
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http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/cdi.html?gclid=CLHf3JHEkrACFQKCnQodPSpmqA (http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/cdi.html?gclid=CLHf3JHEkrACFQKCnQodPSpmqA) Try here, and post on http://www.scooterinvasion.net/forum/ (http://www.scooterinvasion.net/forum/) . Ask Josh(areomyst) for advice. He is nut for the S9. He has several model cdi's that work better than OEM
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Ask Josh(areomyst) for advice. He is nut for the S9.
..S9 guru...that's josh....
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Hey Bro! Tell him Kymco forum sent you... And you want your discount!!!
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Finally its back on the road!
thanks allot guys!
It was the cdi box, and I got a new from Josh! What a superman!
I dont wanna mess it up again, but if I cut the dead end at the exhaust pipe.. Will it make some extra power? If i do, do I need to change the jet?
Again, thank you!:D
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Glad it's back up! Wait for Slinger to answer about the pipe.
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Wait for Slinger to answer about the pipe
...NOOO...dont cut no pipes...
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