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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: 08087 on May 06, 2012, 08:10:35 PM
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Let’s just hope we don't follow:
Disgruntled French show Sarkozy the door
Voters angered over spending cuts oust president Nicolas Sarkozy, picking Socialist Francois Hollande.
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France has a long history of socialism, its hardly surprising. They guillotined their royal family :o
The French are ok in my book, i like em. They dont like something and they hit the streets en masse and make it known, unlike all us in our wussy little countries :P
Viva la France :D
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we really need a massive revolution over here, take down the goverment (british goverment because yours is fine im guessin) there are countries that have done away with a goverment and wondered why they didnt do it sooner.
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I my self am long overdue for some real change in the US gov. What gets me about France is that the new leader wants to tax the rich @ 75%. If I were rich I'd either stop producing or leave the country.
I understand progressive taxing but 75% seems a bit on the high side.
If my gov. started hitting me for that amount I'd be gone.
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Yeah well i think of myself as pretty socialist and left leaning but even i agree 75% tax is steep and if i was rich i prob would decide to lea e with my money and go retire somewhere. Im all for taxing the rich and think if you earn more you can afford to pay more but you stil need to balance that with making it unattractive for investment into your country and economy. Unless you go full communist and everything is state owned you will need to encourage private enterprise and they wont do that by taxing high earners 75%. Saying that tho some of thise who will be in that tax bracket deserve to be hammered cos they domt deserve the pay they get. Banker for instance and CEO's of larve corps who get millions in bonuses while the company value drops. Some of these guys are paid obscene amounts for not a lot really when you compare them to say a surgeon, doctor, firefighter, care worker etc, the pay gap between rich and poor today is shickong.
In my world the bottom earner of ANY company should be earning at least say 5% of what the top guy gets. That way even the cleaner is paid a livable wage, if the CEO want more? Great, the cleaner gets a raise too.
Cant wait till im in charge of things, theres gonna be some major changes :D
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SPORTS STARS OR COPS It is obvious who deserves more. But who gets more.
Don't wanna jack the thread... People HAVE to make the changes... Leaders are too cumffy at the top to bother. Congrats. to the people of France. (frogs)
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Either im turning dyslexic or my typing is getting worse :D
I know how to spell its just my fingers and brain seem to be out of synch, mustve been that bang on the head with a golf club my brother gave me as a kid :)
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Either im turning dyslexic or my typing is getting worse :D
I know how to spell its just my fingers and brain seem to be out of synch, mustve been that bang on the head with a golf club my brother gave me as a kid :)
or that "beef stock cube" you smoked lastnight lmao
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I understand progressive taxing but 75% seems a bit on the high side.
If my gov. started hitting me for that amount I'd be gone.
The beauty of the U.S. is that you are free to leave for whatever low-tax paradise you like, at any time, and you can take all the money and toys you can carry. I usually recommend Somalia (0% tax!). Good luck, and I hope you aren't hunted as food. Sincerely.
During the Golden Age when Eisenhower was president, the top marginal tax rate was 90%. We built the interstate highway system, and banked enough to send men to the moon in the next decade.
Most people have no idea what the marginal tax rate means. They think that if it's 37%, that the richest people pay 37% of their incomes in U.S. income taxes, but no. They pay 0% on the first $7000, 8.3% on the next $12,800, 11.2% on the next $38,900, 15.4% on the next $61,200... just like everyone else, until they get way above $250,000, where it starts getting taxed at more like 37%. The effective tax rate (what an individual ACTUALLY pays after deductions and loopholes) is always ignored in such discussions. ALWAYS.
Unless you don't work for a living, and get all your money off investments, like Mitt Rmoney. He pays less than 15%, 'cause that is "capital gains." Rich people get to pay less, 'cause they can hire people to write the tax laws that say "rich people create jobs, and deserve to pay less in taxes."
So, please, John Galts -- go to Somalia. Don't come back. We don't need you.
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So, please, John Galts -- go to Somalia. Don't come back. We don't need you
You aint got me anyway JP, im not American, im Scottish :P
Seriously tho, your right, i dont know all about the ins and out of the tax system. I was only making the point if you tax too high then they will leave and companies may not invest, or maybe they will and i was wrong, i dont know? Im all for making the rich pay more instead of living like kings while poor folk work 4 jobs just to feed their family,they just need to do it so we dont scare em all away, thats all. If we can raise the tax to 90% and things still function as they did then great, do it. I just dont know if it would work thats all, guess you proved it already does tho?
Oh, and i pay my taxes alright, i dont earn enough to employ an accountant to fix my books. Im lucky to live in a country which offers decent social welfare, has "Free"NHS medical and dental care, state pension and we can have a free university education too if we like, so i know MY tax money goes to a good cause. I have no problem paying even more just so long as those up the ladder also pay the same percentage at least of their income in tax.
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It's going going going.... GONE! Jpres. Hammmers a bases loaded home run over the center field wall!!!
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Looks like a fan got hit in the head tho!
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Looks like a fan got hit in the head tho!
BULLSEYE!!!!! Sorry thats darts ;D
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Looks like a fan got hit in the head tho!
..its the american way..
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yes...the american way.... http://www.anglonautes.com/ill_pho_port_bw_1/ill_pho_port_bw_1_pic_american_way_life_blacks_1937.jpg (http://www.anglonautes.com/ill_pho_port_bw_1/ill_pho_port_bw_1_pic_american_way_life_blacks_1937.jpg)
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...obviously, that aint today...
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This? http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/42000/Truth-Justice-and-the-American-Way-42312.jpg (http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/42000/Truth-Justice-and-the-American-Way-42312.jpg)
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...now, that's more like it!!
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is it me or has the statue got a bit of a nip on?
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Careful Vivo. If you show them you know too much they send helicopters, and submarines. I'd post in piglattin for awhile. Just to throw them off the scent. Okey Dokey! Oui...
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i can speak fluent Hamster, gerbil and rat
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Depends on where you hang out...
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yea sumtimes i can talk raccoon.
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you dirty rat....
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It's going going going.... GONE! Jpres. Hammmers a bases loaded home run over the center field wall!!!
Well, look. It's infuriating for me to hear people whining about high taxes from people in the U.S., especially those who do not realistically ever have a prayer of earning $250,000/year or more... and let's be honest: That's almost all of the whiners, period. Sure, there are a few Vikram Pandits out there, too, but the vast majority of the idiocracy that repeat this Faux News bull$h!t are the chickens that walk into KFC, begging Colonel Sanders' ghost to slit their throats. They are idiots, plain, simple. What's the matter with Kansas, indeed.
Do you realize, the idiotic Bush Tax Cuts that our idiotic Democratically-controlled Congress (at the time) and current idiotic Democratic president extended means that the current marginal tax rate on ALL brackets is now the lowest marginal tax rate in 50 years? Yeah, Obama raised taxes. He raised the cigarette tax. Income taxes? Not a damned dime. And that's to his lasting shame.
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You are right! Same with the "it's the economy" crowd. There are more jobs than ever (as long as you don't mind working), and the Economy is just fine. Banks are holding onto "loan" money is the problem the Whiners are having. Kinda the "fool me once" syndrome with the FEDS. I work on luxury TOYS. Very few people need a boat. 2 years ago I was complaining about the economy due to foreclosures/no loan money in the banks/and the BP oil mess. The tide has turned tho, and so far this quarter I have done the same amount as I did all year in 2010. I have "acquaintances" that get drunk, and bitch but I would rather walk off than stand and bitch slap them till they open their eyes, and shut their mouths. The tax rate is going to explode on us tho. There is soo little wise investing done by the US. Lower taxes mean less teachers first. Welefare will be fine but our next generation will be to ignorant to apply so I'm not over worried. That is the short sighted nature of the American government. 4 years for the BOSS! Lifetime for the employees?(congress). WTF? Keep the idiots that F'ed it up forever, and let the smart one GO?
God Bless America! (he's laughing his ass off w/ Satan) Quote from God: "Guess I lost that one buddy, You wanna turn New Jersey into glass?"
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4 years for the BOSS! Lifetime for the employees?(congress). WTF?
Well, that's not accurate. The "boss," so to speak, is actually Congress, truth be told, and most of Congress (the House of Representatives) are up for re-election every two years, and are constantly in campaign mode, from the day they are sworn in. So, their mouths are searching for the money c0ck, in perpetuity. And they usually find it, and suck it like champs.
The Senate's members have 6-year terms, and are harder to unseat, but the Senate rules are stupid, and keep a lot of thangs from happening because they ARE so stupid -- one person can hold up an appointment, for instance. One! And in secret! No Mr. Smith Goes to Washington filibusters, anymore. All the opposition has to do is threaten one, and the other side caves.
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I just didn't want to type all the details. The Pres is 2 term and out. The Jackasses can go on forever. Especially if they "play ball"
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Forgot to mention... If you Don't play ball you get shot in the face by the V.P. He can do that you know. It's legal here. sorta
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...itsa true story....
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I just didn't want to type all the details. The Pres is 2 term and out. The Jackasses can go on forever. Especially if they "play ball"
Not faulting you, there... but the details are pretty important.
In our post-Citizens United Supreme Court-decision world, you have to know that bribery is now 100% legal. Corporations and people with stupid amounts of wealth can now just outright BUY the legislators and legislation they desire. Anyone with enough money to blanket the airwaves with their message can get the people too tired from working 70-hour weeks to see their points of view, and cause them to vote, accordingly -- even if the chickens are told they WILL report to KFC, forthwith.
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...go FOX....
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It's all lies anyway... We all need a magic Genie.
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...jeannie was one hot genie....
..i saw her belly button!!....
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I just read a bit in the paper about Hollande (a proper grown up newspaper, not a tabloid), says he is cutting his own presidential salary by 30%. At least he himself is willing to contribute something towards the cost of reducing public spending, well done, dont remember ever hearing of a UK or US leader doing the same lately................ ::)
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Do you realize, the idiotic Bush Tax Cuts that our idiotic Democratically-controlled Congress (at the time) and current idiotic Democratic president extended means that the current marginal tax rate on ALL brackets is now the lowest marginal tax rate in 50 years? Yeah, Obama raised taxes. He raised the cigarette tax. Income taxes? Not a damned dime. And that's to his lasting shame.
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I knew this and I am not an American. :)
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And Hollande rides a scooter too :)
Ok its a three-wheeled Vespa, but its a scooter none the less. He was lamenting on how he will miss riding around Paris on it now he is president so wont be able, or allowed to ride.
The more i read about him the more i like him, i can see why the French voted for him. Plus he doesnt wear lifts in his shoes or need a box to stand on, unlike that little egomaniac Napoleon
.......Sorry i meant Sarkozy :
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And Hollande rides a scooter too :)
Ok its a three-wheeled Vespa, but its a scooter none the less. He was lamenting on how he will miss riding around Paris on it now he is president so wont be able, or allowed to ride.
The more i read about him the more i like him, i can see why the French voted for him. Plus he doesnt wear lifts in his shoes or need a box to stand on, unlike that little egomaniac Napoleon
.......Sorry i meant Sarkozy :
I still miss Berlusconi who called Obama a nice tanned guy, left Merkel to wait for him while he was arranging orgies on the phone, mock-f***ed policewoman in front of the summit building, screwed barely legal wannabe models/covert hookers in the bed of V. Putin and paid them with public money and told Germans they are Nazis. ;D ;D
Oh did I say that he had entire Italian legislative branch and media on his payroll?
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I still miss Berlusconi who called Obama a nice tanned guy, left Merkel to wait for him while he was arranging orgies on the phone, mock-f***ed policewoman in front of the summit building, screwed barely legal wannabe models/covert hookers in the bed of V. Putin and paid them with public money and told Germans they are Nazis. ;D ;D
Oh did I say that he had entire Italian legislative branch and media on his payroll?
Yeah well i guess the Italians have different requirements they look for in their leaders :)
Best thing that happened, so far, with him was when that guy smashed his teeth out with the tourist statue, of course he could top that ome if he goes to jail for soliciting underage prostitutes. He continually make crass or outright offensive remarks, such as the Obama one, he was out of control, like Tony Montana only without the drugs. Or at least less of them.
I believe he called them "Bunga-Bunga parties" wonder what bunga bunga means in english eh? :D
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We join our fearless leaders at a 'bunga bunga' party-
Compilation of Silvio Berlusconi's funniest blunders (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMX3EgnI6xg#ws)
Wish I only paid 37%. How's that song go? ''Nothing from nothing leaves nothing"?
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Yeah well i guess the Italians have different requirements they look for in their leaders :)
Best thing that happened, so far, with him was when that guy smashed his teeth out with the tourist statue, of course he could top that ome if he goes to jail for soliciting underage prostitutes. He continually make crass or outright offensive remarks, such as the Obama one, he was out of control, like Tony Montana only without the drugs. Or at least less of them.
I believe he called them "Bunga-Bunga parties" wonder what bunga bunga means in english eh? :D
"In an 1852 issue of Hogg's Instructor, it is stated that "bunga bunga" is the name given by local natives to a location near Moreton Bay on the eastern coast of Australia.[1]
In 1910 a group of English friends, including Virginia Woolf and her brother Adrian Stephen, pretending to be the Prince of Abyssinia and his entourage obtained permission to visit HMS Dreadnought, then one of the world's most powerful warships, in Weymouth in what became known as the Dreadnought hoax. Each time the Commander showed them a marvel of the ship, they murmured the phrase bunga, bunga![2][3] This became a popular catchphrase for a time.[4]"
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Out spoken, Makes light of everything except the important stuff, Likes to party down, Teases other world leaders, Doesn't care who has to wait, Likes Joy riding, Owns a scooter,
Sound real familiar to me... I think I'll name World Leader in absentia...for me. Sorry guys... This one has experience!
Anyone have some digits for the guy?