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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Yager GT 200i => Topic started by: Ronnath on May 03, 2012, 09:01:00 PM
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This is my first post on this forum. I'm new to this forum, but not a cherry having a bit of experience on scooters over the years (2 Puchs, 2 Metropolitans, 1 Reflex, 1 Sportcity 250, and 1 Yamaha Majesty).
Just took delivery of a '12 Yager GT 200i and have been busily putting break-in miles on it.
My first day was spent with a "naked" seat. I grabbed my sheepskin pad for the next couple of days. Today I returned home with my butt crying for relief.
I'm a six footer, 32" inseam, and find the leg room to be "just" acceptable, but trying to wiggle backward on the seat for a little more comfort I came directly in contact with that "ridge" built into the seat and trying to sit up on the "ridge" isn't acceptable because doing that made it more uncomfortable.
I looked under the seat and the shell doesn't look like there's a ridge molded into it, so I'm guessing the aforementioned "ridge" is something molded into the cushioning and covering material itself.
Found this forum, registered, and did a search on seat issues for the Yager. The search resulted in nothing that really responds to my question.
The question: Has anyone done any seat mods to the Yager?
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Yup. Took a flat blade screwdriver and pulled the staples out of the seat bottom to release the seat cover. Only took out enough to pull the cover back to the ridge. Cut the ridge out of the foam and then pulled the cover back over the seat.
Took one of the original staples to the store and bought the closest I could find with the same leg length. Stapled the cover back on.
Works just fine.
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thanks, acope.
did it make much difference in your comfort?
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thanks, acope.
did it make much difference in your comfort?
Yah, What he said :-)
Something has to be done about the seat on my 2012 Yager. I'm 5'10" and the seat is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Love the bike, hate the seat.
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Yup. Took a flat blade screwdriver and pulled the staples out of the seat bottom to release the seat cover. Only took out enough to pull the cover back to the ridge. Cut the ridge out of the foam and then pulled the cover back over the seat.
Took one of the original staples to the store and bought the closest I could find with the same leg length. Stapled the cover back on.
Works just fine.
Cool. Got any pics of that mod? :-)
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Sorry, I didn't think to take pics as we did them. Just did it.
Lets me sit further back without having to sit on the ledge from the foam.
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not to worry.
tomorrow i'll start the process and it will be documented (pix) accordingly.
now, a disclaimer:
should i screw the thing up, i have a local re-upholstery shop in my back pocket that did work on the majesty i used to have and bailed me out when i ran into problems. if that comes to pass, no guarantee on the pix.
stay tuned.
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not to worry.
tomorrow i'll start the process and it will be documented (pix) accordingly.
now, a disclaimer:
should i screw the thing up, i have a local re-upholstery shop in my back pocket that did work on the majesty i used to have and bailed me out when i ran into problems. if that comes to pass, no guarantee on the pix.
stay tuned.
Sweet and thanks!!!!!
:-)
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test post to see if i can upload a picture.
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Hi everyone, new to the forum although I have been lurking for quite a while. Recently purchased a yager GT200I and just sold an Agility 125 that I purchased as a leftover about a year ago. I love the Yager so far but agree with the seat problem so I am following this thread to see the outcome. I too would like to slide back further than the rise in the seat allows comfortably. I probably would have an uphostory shop do the work, just trying to determine the best direction to go in. Thought of adding a less dense foam ahead of the rise but not sure if the rise in seat height would be detrimentle when tring to touch down. I also think taking some of the slope out of the seat might make it more comfy... Not sure.
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here we go:
The offending hump
(hope the pix work - i'm trying to get them sized for posting here)
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pop open the seat and remove the two 10MM nuts at the front of the seat - no need to attack the allen screw thingy between the two nuts.
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with the seat open you'll notice the underseat light is on. wiggled it and such to see if there was a way to remove/unplug it - no joy.
since i had no idea how long the seat would be off and not wanting to run down the battery, just unscrew the two screws holding the latch/hook thingy at the back of the seat and shove it down into the "catch" - it snapped right in and the light went out.
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Acope's post mentioned using a flat screwdriver to remove the staples. i didn't have one that was thin enough, so i grabbed a "scratch awl" and it worked very well pulling up one end of the staple and i grabbed the staple with needle nose pliers and they popped right out.
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i only removed enough staples to expose the hump. pulling up the cover i discovered the foam is covered with some plastic saran-wrap-like stuff.
here's the foam still covered with the wrap.
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the wrap removes easily - it's not glued on, just tucked around and under the foam.
pull it up and fold it back over the seat cover.
the hump is exposed waiting to be trimmed down.
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Resorting to the kitchen knife rack, i pulled out a serrated bread knife and attacked the hump.
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after carving, the results were pretty ugly, but much flatter. besides, the ugliness is going to be covered up.
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time to button it up. grabbed my stapler and had at it. (all told, i removed and replaced about 40 staples)
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Notes:
total time start to finish was about two hours.
those two hours included:
- hunting for tools
- removing seat
- figuring out the underseat light issue
- performing the actual work on hacking the seat
- taking pix, resizing them to fit here, and making these posts.
- a couple smoke breaks to figure out what the hell i was doing.
after getting the seat remounted i, of course, sat on it and could feel a bit of bumpiness from the surgery.
eyeballing my scotch supply, i see i need to make an emergency trip the liquor store. will report back on how it feels.
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hope this makes sense:
even with the hump gone, there is still a bit of a "rise" towards the rear. not really uncomfortable, but clearly a slight slope upward from the normal non-modified area. as i scooted my butt back, it felt like i was sitting a bit higher.
but for a free mod, worth the effort.
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oh, and if anyone wants any of the pictures in a larger size, i can email them to you.
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Great Job and nice explanation!
Thanks, I definately appreciate it.
Dave
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you're welcome YMS.
oh, and my previous post about getting the pictures in a larger size - no need to since i just discovered if one clicks on the pix, they pop up in a much larger size - live and learn.
i'm going to do a search about storage options other than adding a top box. may have to resort to starting a new thread on the subject.
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Excellent work!
This forum is turning out to be top notch.
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I have the 2010 version so it may be a little diff. If you don't want to remove the bulb, the light is plugged in, just follow the wire and pull the plug out.
Richard L.
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there is foam cutters you can buy that would make the job much easier and cleaner:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Foam-Cutter-Bow-Guide-Woodland-Scenics-NIB-1437-/270934097145?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item3f14ee3cf9 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Foam-Cutter-Bow-Guide-Woodland-Scenics-NIB-1437-/270934097145?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item3f14ee3cf9)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STYROFOAM-hot-wire-bow-cutter-block-sheet-foam-craft-/360458809069?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ed04eeed (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STYROFOAM-hot-wire-bow-cutter-block-sheet-foam-craft-/360458809069?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ed04eeed)
I have one I use it for cutting foam for gun and accessory cases.....
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i have one of the ones in your first link. used to use it in art and craft stuff, but the batteries were dead and the bread knife was closer.
agree it would be easier, and thanks for heads-up,
after going for a number of miles after my first mod and still finding some discomfort, may well grab the foam-eater for further mods.
still waiting for others to jump in with their experiences.
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After cutting it use 1/4" foam to cover the whole seat (under the final cover). It buries the scars, and gives a brand new look.
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Excellent work!
This forum is turning out to be top notch.
That's one handsome SOB right there...
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That's one handsome SOB right there...
SOB? Sand On Beach?
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Uh.... Yeah! That's the ticket. Yippie Cay-aye son!
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SOB = Seat On Bike, that's the thread right? ;D
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Man you're good! Must be something in the Island life... Plenty of time to be happy.
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Man you're good! Must be something in the Island life... Plenty of time to be happy.
just plenty of time....
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5126/5316662568_aef2240012_z.jpg)
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I think I have found my Zen master. I do get pretty riled up for a dead guy! It's in my dusty blood...
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Back on the seat issue. I've been thinking rather than scoop out the ridge between the two rider positions, I would fill the driver's seat with more padding to sort of raise it up to where the passenger seat starts.
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It is really easy work. Just keep it all smooth/straight.
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Back on the seat issue. I've been thinking rather than scoop out the ridge between the two rider positions, I would fill the driver's seat with more padding to sort of raise it up to where the passenger seat starts.
that may well work, YMS. if you do it please be sure to post your results (as well as your source of the padding) here.
i think i mentioned earlier that my mod didn't exactly turn the seat into a barcalounger, however i'm starting to get used to it.
but not so much i wouldn't go hacking at it again.
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To be simple whenever I find any issues regarding the seats I just go to my mechanic and he handles the job. I do not take risks to ruin the seat by my own hands.
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To be simple whenever I find any issues regarding the seats I just go to my mechanic and he handles the job. I do not take risks to ruin the seat by my own hands.
good for you! you have a "seat mechanic"
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good for you! you have a "seat mechanic"
Oh... This is too tempting a phrase to run with... I mean "seat mechanic". That's what she said!
Ok.. I'm leaving...
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Handsome, and polite... Gotta introduce you to my sister.
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Handsome, and polite... Gotta introduce you to my sister.
Um... Did I mention that I'm currently employed?
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After cutting it use 1/4" foam to cover the whole seat (under the final cover). It buries the scars, and gives a brand new look.
Any photos of the end result?
Thanks!
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Debbie Klughers... "Drinks with Denise" starring guest chef Debbie Klughers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncyUAdxUOpw#)
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She has her own show on LITV called "Keeping it green".