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Title: Long distance riding
Post by: FosterG on April 03, 2012, 04:18:42 PM
I'm looking to purchase a used People s200.  My intent is to ride to a few rally's.  I would need to ride 300-400 miles (non-interstate) a day to reach the rally's.   Is this a smart idea on an air cooled scooter?  If so, how comfortable or uncomfortable would I be?   Would like to hear others experiences.  Thanks!         
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: Carol on April 06, 2012, 05:06:36 PM

 I scoot around on a PeopleS200 and I find it very comfortable, this being typed, I have not been on any "long" distance rides (> 100 mi). Rosy does well up and down hills, accelleration from stop lights is my favorite part! Leaves my husband in the dust!
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: MaryK on April 06, 2012, 08:07:41 PM
To ride 300-400 miles/day and enjoy it, you would need a touring scooter.
They usually start at 400c and go up to 650cc.

SO, look for a used touring scooter after you learn to ride on a smaller scooter (150-250cc)

Scoot safely,
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: slugrocket rob on April 09, 2012, 11:19:40 PM
My longest ride was about 300 miles in one day on my vespa p200 (on my way to Ameravespa in Seattle a few years back). I also have a People s200 and find it very comfortable and I would think it would be good for a long days ride. What Rally are you going to?
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: FosterG on April 10, 2012, 01:21:30 PM
I am looking to ride to this year's Ameravespa.  I currently ride a 150cc Roketa, which I keep close to home.  I have over 5000 miles on it, but think it's best not to attempt along distance ride on it.  I have my eye on a used people 200.  I just can't decide to go with air cooled or go for a liquid cooled scoot???
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: slugrocket rob on April 10, 2012, 03:37:25 PM
Have fun at Amerivesp. It looks like it will be a great event this year!!
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: cabinman on April 24, 2012, 08:58:48 PM
I have an People S200, rode it to my lake cabin last summer on a warm day, about 60 miles each way.
I'm looking for a larger windscreen now, because wind in the face/helmet wears you out.
I read some other posts and agree a bigger scoot would be better for long rides.
At 60 mph I felt like I was close to red lining. My scoot is happier under 50 mph.
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: KScoot on April 25, 2012, 12:49:27 PM
Foster G, i have ridden my People s200 about 1.5 hours each way in one day on Interstate roads. I have a large windshield and weigh 250. I can pretty much get to 55 mph in any wind but WITH the wind can go up to 10 mph more. I ride this scoot all over town for short rides. For me the speed is adequate for an interstate road but just barely. Vibration does make me uncomfortable. And I would appreciate some more lower back support for longer rides. I stopped once for gas on each leg of the trip.

Bottom line is i would pick a bigger scooter or a real motorcycle for serious touring. For me I would be concerned about the usual touring issues like vibration, good back support, a good suspension and some form of speed control that let me take my hand off the throttle from time to time. I would take a hard look at the new 2012 Honda scooter coming out or the big BMW 650 cc 2013 model due for release later this year.
Title: Long distance riding
Post by: carloscuny on September 23, 2013, 09:53:41 PM
Reading an old post I would like to continue the subject.

Planning a 3000Km (one way) so 6000Km trip from the Netherlands to the Ukrain and maybe beyond, next year as soon as weather permits. I have recently bought the People-s 200 i (afi). I also have a older cygnus 125 yamaha. Not sure which one yet.

Some manuals state to not run to long an let cool down the engine?
Well this seems strange. If not overworked I do not see this limitation, anyone?
How long can you run a scoot without stopping?
Do not overload, travel light. Follow a fast truck...carefully, be surprised by the milage you get...

Well you have to fill your fuel ( around 5-6 liters x say 33 Km Will bring me 200 Km on one tank. Not to much. So after an hour or two stop and fill. Maybe bring an extra jerrycan. Quickfill an go- especially at night and fuelstations closed or far between....
I can see ourselves are the limitation. Take a good rest and enjoy your ride too.

I did Southern-France once from Holland a few times so I know what it is like, even with a moped.
Oil checks are very very important. Less then 1 litre seperates you from disaster.
So after two fills stop, take a cup of coffee and check your level.

My experience with small scoots is you should always top them to the max.
And of course replace every 2000 or whatever is written in you manual.
This means you should replace the oil at some point of the journey yourself.
So you should have the oil and tools, and catch and dispose correctly the old...
Use good semi or full synthetics correct grade (for season) always
So take with you the right oil in good Quantity. I have not seen yet the full scheme with temperatures (seasons, ambient temp) and oil recommendations for my people-s 200I anyone?

Get well prepared, spare lamps, sparkplug, and tools, fuses, gascable, tape, wire things like that,  some experience by servicing these things yourself, including tire-punctures and things? A food light when you drive at night as I do. Good locks, alarm and luggagebox etc etc etc
A good insurance, dealers on the route? Good (digital) manual.
Off course your scoot should be well maintained and checked. Not one day before you leave but well in advance, so you can correct anything well before your departure.

Well who can give me some more advice on this trip? I did some 1500km before and like to hear your experiences. Anyone?

Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: AMAC1680 on September 24, 2013, 01:20:45 AM
I rode from Jacksonville Florida to Mantoloking nj, 1100 miles, in three days on S200.

(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/KYMCO-S200/i-65WR8KL/1/M/image-M.jpg)


They were long days but not hard on the body. The biggest pain was the refueling.
It seemed like I was stopping for gas every hour or two......
Oh wait I was !

It's no touring BMW but it was a hell of a lot of fun. Go for it you only live once.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: 08087 on September 25, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
I rode from Jacksonville Florida to Mantoloking nj, 1100 miles, in three days on S200.

(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/KYMCO-S200/i-65WR8KL/1/M/image-M.jpg)


They were long days but not hard on the body. The biggest pain was the refueling.
It seemed like I was stopping for gas every hour or two......
Oh wait I was !

It's no touring BMW but it was a hell of a lot of fun. Go for it you only live once.

Be Big,
AMAC

How fatigued did you get, you've got my exact bike except my wind shield is a full one? That's a bold ride my friend, what roads did you take, certainly not I 95.
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on September 25, 2013, 11:36:14 PM
How fatigued did you get, you've got my exact bike except my wind shield is a full one? That's a bold ride my friend, what roads did you take, certainly not I 95.
Man o' man - what a pretty scoot!
This would be my new scoot if/when I replace my LIKE 200i. DID you take the interstate?
Tell us  more about your ride - this is an epic ride on a scoot of this size!
Any pix of your trip?
Ride safe!
Regards, Stig
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: Vivo on September 26, 2013, 01:41:12 AM
beautiful scoot...and bags....  ;)
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: AMAC1680 on September 26, 2013, 09:50:10 AM
How fatigued did you get, you've got my exact bike except my wind shield is a full one? That's a bold ride my friend, what roads did you take, certainly not I 95.

It wants all that bad. As long as you go in knowing that it will be a little "physical". If I had it my way I would have added a day.

I took highways 301, 17 .......and I95.
Because I was time pressed I ran 301-17 into So Carolina. First day was a Sunday and I ran 150miles on I 95 early in the morning. 95 is pretty empty in the Carolina's early except for a couple of stretches around cities. That scoot was streaming but never burped !

That first day also set the tone. I would get on the road at about 4:30 am and run I95 for about 150-200 miles. Off 95 before 8-8:30am and back to 301. With a couple of hundred done early in the day it makes for easy going once off highway. It also keeps that air cooled scoot off the highway in the heat of the day.

Same deal each day. At emporia va I headed east thru norfolk, up the eastern shore and over the Delaware memorial bridge. That bridge was the only place I felt really at risk. Bad timing had me there late in the day, wind honking scoot fighting up the hill and drivers driving as they do up there ! That was after convincing the bridge cops I just "f-up" and this was the only way across. Playing the fool worked.

From there the back roads to the beach. It was a hoot but the way back I took.......the trailer !
Just didn't have time 4-5 days would be perfect. With extra time I95 can be avoided.

Ill need to look for my pics, been a few years.

My choice would be a BV350 for the trip. Add a big screen and this scoot has what I like. Big wheels, step thru and enough liquid cooled power. But I would do it on a Rukus if I had he time. Life's short.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: johnson on September 26, 2013, 11:45:15 AM
Nice advice AMAC.  I only do interstates when traffic is light.  Rush hour adds a whole 'nother mind game to riding with cars.  I've got a PS250 and it has about 18 extra mph top end over the PS200.  Liquid cooled is nice also cruising in the heat of the day.  If the point is getting there and time is an issue I take the cage.  Otherwise take back highways and enjoy the ride.  Racing cross country and not seeing the sites isn't my style. 

Too bad they aren't making the PS models anymore.  It's hard to get info about working on them.  I got mine used also cause the price was cheaper than anything else.  First choice was the Sym HD200.  At least the plastics are easy to remove on the SYM.  But I do like the extra power of the 250. 
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: AMAC1680 on September 26, 2013, 12:14:18 PM
Nice advice AMAC.  I only do interstates when traffic is light.  Rush hour adds a whole 'nother mind game to riding with cars.  I've got a PS250 and it has about 18 extra mph top end over the PS200.  Liquid cooled is nice also cruising in the heat of the day.  If the point is getting there and time is an issue I take the cage.  Otherwise take back highways and enjoy the ride.  Racing cross country and not seeing the sites isn't my style. 

Too bad they aren't making the PS models anymore.  It's hard to get info about working on them.  I got mine used also cause the price was cheaper than anything else.  First choice was the Sym HD200.  At least the plastics are easy to remove on the SYM.  But I do like the extra power of the 250.

Yeah it sucked that time was short but it was just one of those things.
I recently sold that scoot, it was a really solid ride but truth is I love the big wheels but its hard to hold up the scoot. Seat height, compromise body !

I'm an incomplete paraplegic that's why I love thru step thru scooters. The problem is choices are slim once you get bigger than 150cc. The BV, Sport City's etc are all great scoots but all are tall. The maxis with a lower seat height are just to big all around. Long and heavy both on the road and in the garage.

Not to mention there is a need to swing a leg over most maxis. It's not that high but its not step thru.

The grand vista was a great scooter but people seem to like their scoots looking more like cycles these days.

I just bought a SYM RV200 EVO. It fits what I need. Lite, short ,step thru, massive storage and carrying power and a very strong motor for its size. I've seen 73 GPS.

This gimp will take the same trip, all back roads, again next spring.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: johnson on September 27, 2013, 02:16:27 AM
The RV200 is a nice scoot.  Has many of the DT300 features and the tested engine of the HD200.  THAT is a cruise-worthy scoot.  Better leg room than the others also.  It'd be nice to stretch out sometimes when I'm out of the city.  Gotta figure out how to add hwy pegs to the PS250. 
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on September 28, 2013, 01:00:21 AM
Yeah it sucked that time was short but it was just one of those things.
I recently sold that scoot, it was a really solid ride but truth is I love the big wheels but its hard to hold up the scoot. Seat height, compromise body !

I'm an incomplete paraplegic that's why I love thru step thru scooters. The problem is choices are slim once you get bigger than 150cc. The BV, Sport City's etc are all great scoots but all are tall. The maxis with a lower seat height are just to big all around. Long and heavy both on the road and in the garage.

Not to mention there is a need to swing a leg over most maxis. It's not that high but its not step thru.

The grand vista was a great scooter but people seem to like their scoots looking more like cycles these days.

I just bought a SYM RV200 EVO. It fits what I need. Lite, short ,step thru, massive storage and carrying power and a very strong motor for its size. I've seen 73 GPS.

This gimp will take the same trip, all back roads, again next spring.

Be Big,
AMAC
Pictures of the SYM, please?
You're gonna still hang around here though, too, right?!
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: AMAC1680 on October 19, 2013, 11:38:56 AM
Pictures of the SYM, please?
You're gonna still hang around here though, too, right?!

Of course I'll hang around !
Here's the new RV 200 dressed to travel.


(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/SYM-RV-200-EVO/i-9mLcqr4/0/M/image-M.jpg)

(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/SYM-RV-200-EVO/i-5hfvDDn/0/M/image-M.jpg)

Truth is with the huge under seat storage and the Bikers-friend it won't be often ill need the saddlebags. She's a bit of a "wide-azz" with the saddlebags.

(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/SYM-RV-200-EVO/i-Mg9fqbX/0/M/image-M.jpg)
 
Without saddlebags (my day to day setup)
(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/SYM-RV-200-EVO/i-bn2dFDV/0/M/image-M.jpg)

Ill call it a "mini-maxi".

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: TLRam1 on October 19, 2013, 10:13:02 PM
Amac,

You have that fixed up Nice! Are the saddlebags the throw-over type under the seat. It that the stock seat?
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: AMAC1680 on October 19, 2013, 10:48:08 PM
Amac,

You have that fixed up Nice! Are the saddlebags the throw-over type under the seat. It that the stock seat?

The seat is stock. The bags are SEDICI Toscana Saddlebags I got a few years back at cycle gear and they are throw over/underseat. I think they were about $100.00. Same bags that if used on my s200.

The underseat storage is massive so its only long road trips that I'll need the saddles.

(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/SYM-RV-200-EVO/i-dfvCdxx/0/S/image-S.jpg)

(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/SYM-RV-200-EVO/i-GTBqfSm/0/M/image-M.jpg)

Contents from under seat .

(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/SYM-RV-200-EVO/i-p9Pv4hF/0/M/image-M.jpg)

Full face helmet
Rain Jacket and Pants
Long sleeve tee
HiVis Safety vest
Gloves and do rag
Small tool kit
Small backpack
Cane

My first choice was the Grand Vista but I wanted a new scoot and couldn't find a leftover at the right price.

Be Big,
AMAC

Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: TLRam1 on October 20, 2013, 02:43:34 AM
That is a Ton of under seat storage!

Thanks for the photos.

What brand of roll bag is that, does the bag hold it's shape?
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: AMAC1680 on October 20, 2013, 08:45:44 AM
That is a Ton of under seat storage!

Thanks for the photos.

What brand of roll bag is that, does the bag hold it's shape?

It's a Bikers Friend bag.
http://www.bikersfriend.com (http://www.bikersfriend.com)

They hold there shape there's a piece of PVC pipe inside. I don't have the lumbar pad on in the pics. A bit pricey but build like a rock.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: kaktuschick on October 13, 2014, 05:15:59 PM
Hi! I'm new to this forum and fairly new to riding. I have this same scooter-a 2009 Kymco People s200. The farthest I have ridden is 545 miles in two days. Very much of it was uphill-in fact, from 900 feet to 7,300 feet. It was a comfortable ride and the scooter held up very well. I never expected it to do so well on the hills. Honestly, I wouldn't be afraid to take this scooter anywhere now that I know how well it does. It's a little bit scary on the interstate, but I only ride on those when there is absolutely NO other option!
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: AMAC1680 on May 02, 2015, 10:09:19 PM
IMO the P250 was one of the best all around scoots kymco brought over.
That said the SYM 171cc motor is amazingly strong. Except for top end its close to the P250. I've taken some long trips at 70plus on a RV200.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: 0BARK4322 on May 03, 2015, 12:34:16 AM
I rode from Jacksonville Florida to Mantoloking nj, 1100 miles, in three days on S200.

(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/KYMCO-S200/i-65WR8KL/1/M/image-M.jpg)


They were long days but not hard on the body. The biggest pain was the refueling.
It seemed like I was stopping for gas every hour or two......
Oh wait I was !

It's no touring BMW but it was a hell of a lot of fun. Go for it you only live once.

Be Big,
AMAC
ON THE NJTP
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: AMAC1680 on May 03, 2015, 03:03:51 AM
ON THE NJTP

Never needed to get on the turnpike.
Over the Delaware memorial bridge then 295 to 130 and on into the pines till I hit the beach.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: jeffreyholt79 on May 03, 2015, 04:26:15 AM
So lm hearing 300 mi...on my 05 grand vista...is not out of line????
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: jeffreyholt79 on May 03, 2015, 04:28:26 AM
Its, only got 23 hundred miles  on it.....
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: 0BARK4322 on May 03, 2015, 10:56:02 AM
Never needed to get on the turnpike.
Over the Delaware memorial bridge then 295 to 130 and on into the pines till I hit the beach.

Be Big,
AMAC
That's great. do you still ride the scooter 8)
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: AMAC1680 on May 03, 2015, 10:06:07 PM
That's great. do you still ride the scooter 8)

I sold the P200 when I bought the SYM RV200. I needed just a bit more power for day to day use. Too many 70 mph roads I need to take down here.

I now have the RV for sale. With the addition of the DT300 it just doesn't get enough use. Too bad it's the best all around scoot I've ever owned.

Anyhow long trips sre doable but it's all about having the time to do it. The scoots, and your butt, can hack it if you have enough time.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: 0BARK4322 on May 06, 2015, 08:33:08 AM
You tell my that the SYM RV200 can do 70mps ???
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: AMAC1680 on May 06, 2015, 10:22:35 AM
You tell my that the SYM RV200 can do 70mps ???

It will do 74 mph/GPS with my skinny ass on it.
Cruise at 65-70 all day. Great little scooter.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: 0BARK4322 on May 06, 2015, 11:43:16 PM
GREAT.....now how is the quality
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: AMAC1680 on May 07, 2015, 12:21:41 AM
GREAT.....now how is the quality

It's rock solid. Fit and finish is good and the 171cc motor is near bullit proof. That motor has done the Cannonball and many have well over 10,000 trouble free miles.

That said the dealer network in many parts of the U.S. is thin and in the rare event you need parts it's dealer only.

Check this out.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l1L10C3VfGg

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: 0BARK4322 on May 07, 2015, 08:33:09 AM
Nice video......darn, after all fee's/tax we talking about $4000 area
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: AMAC1680 on May 07, 2015, 08:48:55 AM
Nice video......darn, after all fee's/tax we talking about $4000 area

Down here it's more like 3400.00 OTD but it's a volume dealer.
After all this I'm re-thinking selling it !

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Long distance riding
Post by: 0BARK4322 on May 07, 2015, 11:43:18 PM
Why ???.....you just had good things to say about it