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Title: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: bongoman on March 23, 2009, 01:11:09 AM
Has anyone used a dry lubricant on the rollers?

I recently fitted Dr. Pulley sliders and got to wondering if some dry lubricant would make them spin easier.
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: winginman on March 23, 2009, 02:36:53 AM
Bongoman, I just read a post the other day on another forum about changing to Dr Pulley and using a dry lubricant on the rollers and it did make a difference.  I tried to find the post and can't remember which forum.  Short term memory....  What were we talking about? 

BTW, when I take mine in for the first service I am ordering a set of Dr Pulley and when I put it back together I will try some dry lubricant.  I will post a report on the results.  Anyone else out there tried it?
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: bongoman on March 24, 2009, 12:27:15 AM
When I fitted Dr. Pulley sliders on mine, it took about 3-4 tanks of gas, that many miles to become familiar with the changed characteristics of the scoot. After that I quit twisting the throttle so much and mileage went up.
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: bongoman on March 24, 2009, 02:42:23 AM
I found a message from another rider on another Kymco forum who used a dry spray lubricant when he installed the sliders on his Xciting250. Here's a link to his report:

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/kymcoscooterforum/message/37486
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: winginman on March 24, 2009, 03:02:59 AM
That's the one I was looking for.  Thank you.  Now to give it a try myself.  I am probably about two weeks away from trying it.  Wonder what dry lubricant he used?  Also good idea to polish out any rough edges.  I guess you could do that with the Dremel tool and the polishing wheel.  Anyway, what RPM are you running now at 60 MPH and 70 MPH?
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: bongoman on March 24, 2009, 06:11:42 PM
The interesting thing about the difference with Dr. Pulley sliders is that speeds I cruise - 50 to 70 - the rpms stay about the same except when accelerating, about 62 - 6400.

After reading about the experience with the 250 & dry lubricant, I am anxious to try it.
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: drifter on March 25, 2009, 02:34:50 PM
Can anyone post the name of the dry lubricant?
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: Kymco500 on March 26, 2009, 05:16:54 AM
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Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: bongoman on April 06, 2009, 02:37:16 AM
Now I know, Dr. Pulley sliders love dry lube. After putting the dry graphite lube in last Friday, wow, nice difference. This is about 250 miles afterwards, and mileage has increased, smoother running, and about 300 rpm drop at cruising speeds.

If you're installing Dr. PUlley sliders - and they do make a difference - use some dry lube on the variator for increased performance.
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: drifter on April 10, 2009, 08:17:14 PM
thanks for the inputs! problem here is that i'm having a hard time finding a dry lube here! :(
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: OldGuy on April 10, 2009, 09:31:45 PM
thanks for the inputs! problem here is that i'm having a hard time finding a dry lube here! :(

Try locksmiths. They usually sell some.
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: bongoman on April 11, 2009, 04:06:19 AM
Isn't graphite a dry lubricant? That's available at auto parts houses.

And where is here? I mean where are you that dry lubricant is not available? If I'm not being too nosy.
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: drifter on April 11, 2009, 04:54:50 PM
oh! i'am sorry forgot to mention my location... i'am from the philippines
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: axy on April 13, 2009, 01:05:22 PM
Sorry for being stupid - never changed rollers by myself - what exactly should be greased?
Tnx!
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: bongoman on April 15, 2009, 12:25:13 AM
Not grease! Do not use grease. Spray some dry lubricant - DRY lubricant - on the variator and backing plate. That's the piece that holds the rollers.

For sure Dr. Pulley sliders work better with dry lubricant. Slow acceleration is smoother, and rpms drop off a little at hiway speeds.
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: Alex on May 15, 2009, 02:57:42 AM
did anybody ever come back with a name for the dry lube.. apart from Graphite? ???
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: bongoman on May 19, 2009, 10:42:33 PM
Sorry for not replying sooneer, not online very often these days. The weather has been so nice, that I have spent most of the time riding.

Ask any scooter dealer what kkind of dry lube they use; McLube is one, and there are more. As long as it's dry, it'll work.

I don't know if spraying dry lube will help stock rollers, I do know the Dr. P. Sliders work better, smoother.
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: Alex on May 25, 2009, 11:23:25 AM
well I just got back from a week in Houston, went to three bike dealers while I was there and nobody had heard of Mc Lube they thought it was a side order at Maccas, and I never saw a scooter in the week apart from in dealers showrooms.  :'(
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: bongoman on May 25, 2009, 03:52:55 PM
Hey Alex,
I'll ask at shop in the next couple of days.

Re Houston . . . more motorcycles than scooters. In the fall I work Texas Renaissance Festival by Magnolia, north of Houston, and all I see are m.c.s. Lots of them on weekends.
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: Alex on May 27, 2009, 09:43:24 AM
I looked up Mclube on google they got some great stuff but it seems to all come in 1/2gall containers, ..their drypowder mix of PTFE/MoS would be great but I know I cant get that here...I think its graphite for me, I will give that a go
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: bongoman on May 28, 2009, 02:20:19 AM
tomorrow, Thursday, I can go by my dealer and find out what they used on mine.
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: bongoman on May 28, 2009, 09:35:39 PM
I talked to the mechanic at my dealership today about dry lubricant. He used graphite, same thing you can get at auto parts store for locks.

When I first installed Dr. Pulley sliders, I did not use anything. Then I read about dry lubricant, had the mechanic spray some on the variator, and it really made a difference overall. Smoother acceleration, smoother at slow speeds.

So nothing exotic, just plain old graphite that also makes locks work smoothly.
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: Alex on May 29, 2009, 09:04:49 AM
yeah I got some of that in the garage somewhere I will excavate until I find it then when I put my sliders back in I will give it a go...tks
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: Alex on June 12, 2009, 12:33:10 PM
turned out what I thought was graphite was MO2S powder which should be better. will report back when I get the scoot back on the road..am changing the clutch support bearing , and waiting for delivery of new rear view mirrors , so it will be 4 wheels for a week or so
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: bongoman on June 12, 2009, 08:29:04 PM
Hey Alex, I would like to know about that MO stuff when you get it back on the road.
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: Alex on June 14, 2009, 11:39:24 AM
I think this is the same stuff MOLYBOND S.F.P (ZX35) SUPERFINE POWDER supplied by ITW industries, who own Molybond , but I could not find it on their website, I will let you know how the scoot goes
Title: Re: Dry lubricant on rollers?
Post by: winginman on June 20, 2009, 02:16:39 PM
I have some CRC Dry Moly Lube in a spray.  Anyone tried something like this?  I use this stuff when reloading to moly coat bullets.  Wonder how it might work on the sliders?  It give a slick dry coating when it dries and it dries very fast.  Looks green when sprayed on.