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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: blue on March 27, 2012, 08:34:34 PM

Title: muffler
Post by: blue on March 27, 2012, 08:34:34 PM
Is there away of cleaning the inside of my muffler it may be pluged up . scoot runns fine with it off.with it in it well not start.
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: wordslinger on March 28, 2012, 02:56:01 AM
scoot runns fine with it off.with it in it well not start.


..wh-wh-what??

..blue, don't run that scoot without the pipe!!!
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: blue on March 28, 2012, 11:24:39 AM
scoot runns fine with it off.with it in it well not start.


..wh-wh-what??

..blue, don't run that scoot without the pipe!!!

It wont start with the muffler on. with it taken off. it will start right up . so im asking can the muffler be pluged up and can I fix it with out tearing it apart.
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: wordslinger on March 28, 2012, 11:30:47 AM
...have you checked your air filter, or tried adjusting the idle mix screw??

..wrap your lips around the pipe and blow thru it...no, seriously....
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: blue on March 28, 2012, 11:48:26 AM
...have you checked your air filter, or tried adjusting the idle mix screw??

..wrap your lips around the pipe and blow thru it...no, seriously....

Ok so i well force some air threw it. no to the idle mix screw. and the air filter is off for now.
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: zombie on March 28, 2012, 11:25:25 PM
There is only one way to clear a clogged muffler with out gutting it. This is REAL fun, and REAL dangerous...
 You need an acetylene/ oxy torch. Start at the cylinder end heating the pipe to cherry red. NOT blue or white, RED. As it heats you will see sparks of carbon start to fly. When this starts turn off the Acet. and run pure Oxy. into the pipe. It will keep the carbon burning, and you will see the pipe glow in a ring moving towards the outlet. It moves back until you pass the baffles, and will SHOWER EVERYTHING in it path with burning carbon. (that's the fun part). I would HIGHLY recommend a Trained welder to do this for you. Chances are if you find a guy that has done this he will do it for the cost of the gas as it really is a show to see.
Or just hit ebay or OEM for a new pipe. There is nothing that will "wash" it out.
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: blue on March 28, 2012, 11:40:48 PM
ya if this is the case I well just get a new pipe.Im looking at another scoot for parts later this week.
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: baddi on March 29, 2012, 07:24:42 AM
scoot runns fine with it off.with it in it well not start.


..wh-wh-what??

..blue, don't run that scoot without the pipe!!!

Wordslinger, its a 4-stroke, so the pipe is just to prevent water from the road to splash into the engine and to dampen the sound. ;)
It's 2-strokes which doesn't run well without the pipe :D
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: blue on March 29, 2012, 09:48:57 PM
ill just throw it on the barbie and grill it clean. hope nobody stop over for dinner.   lol
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: zombie on March 29, 2012, 11:58:56 PM
I would like an end piece please.
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: wordslinger on April 01, 2012, 03:16:15 AM
Wordslinger, its a 4-stroke, so the pipe is just to prevent water from the road to splash into the engine and to dampen the sound.
It's 2-strokes which doesn't run well without the pipe




so the pipe is just to prevent water from the road to splash into the engine


..IS THAT SO??...

...hmmm..never made th' connection......


Title: Re: muffler
Post by: zombie on April 02, 2012, 12:46:43 AM
Actually the back pressure reduces heat on the valves. If you ran NO pipe the exhaust valve would melt like in a blast furnace. Even open header type have a specific running length to keep things cool
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: wordslinger on April 04, 2012, 11:32:32 AM
Even open header type have a specific running length to keep things cool

..maybe if you shorten it and let just a little water in, thatmight cool them valves off!...

 :o ??? :o ??? :o

..don't know what you'ld do when it's not raining tho...

..maybe strap a rag full of ice cubes just above the exhaust port...let them melt and just drip in...
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: blue on April 04, 2012, 12:03:34 PM
ill just go with old scool and throw a muffler on it from my briggs and stratten lawn mower.
that well gives the neighbors something to be happy with.
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: zombie on April 05, 2012, 12:53:14 AM
Cool thinking Slinger!  Don't laugh at the Brigs muffler either... I used a pipe thread tap to thread a mower muffler into the exhaust port on one of my NC 50's. Not very loud either but they would rust thru the baffels in a month or so cause of the heat. $4.99 at the hardware store, and fit right in.
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: wordslinger on April 05, 2012, 12:57:38 AM
..that heat's a bitch...


...ice cubes...that's th ticket!!!

 ;)
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: zombie on April 05, 2012, 12:58:24 AM
Serious! You might want to measure, install one,and test your engine. The NC is about 1.7hp but it was faster with it ((almost 25mph top speed vs 20 OEM)) Most mowers have more hp than the scoot. 3.25 scoot vs. 5-10hp mower
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: wordslinger on April 05, 2012, 01:17:47 AM
Most mowers have more hp than the scoot. 3.25 scoot vs. 5-10hp mower

..this is true...and scary.... :o
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: blue on April 05, 2012, 01:29:25 AM
Most mowers have more hp than the scoot. 3.25 scoot vs. 5-10hp mower

..this is true...and scary.... :o

Dont tell me that ill be the guy going to work on my driveing lawnmower.   Just  :Dlike adam sandler in the water boy.
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: zombie on April 05, 2012, 01:56:17 AM
At least you'll get there quicker now
Title: Re: muffler
Post by: wordslinger on April 05, 2012, 03:00:28 AM
..running is an option...