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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: JCuc on February 05, 2012, 02:22:01 AM
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My current residence is in South Carolina and the only law I can find dictating the speed of a two wheeled vehicle to be classified as a moped is that if it doesn't exceed 30 mph on level ground. Now, I can't find anything stating it can't go over 30 down hill or about that there needs to be a speed regulator. Does anyone have a better insight on this?
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who cares if its legal make it go faster and injoy it lol. just dont get cought. As long as your not geting to wreckless most cops well look past it.
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If the speed limit is 30 and you go over 30, on a hill or not, youre getting done for speeding if you get caught. But like blue says, dont worry about it, just go fast :)
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No one has really answered my question, but oh well. I'll have to ask my local officer.
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..thats a good one, i live in NC...
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No one has really answered my question, but oh well. I'll have to ask my local officer.
What difference does it make? If the law says 30mph on level ground for a moped thats it, if your asking can you take out any restrictions or regulators or if the law states they must be fitted then i guess the answer must be yes cos without it they would go over 30mph hence why they are sold with restrictions normally.
Dont think we get the question fully or what you want to know or why?
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For real... Speed limit, and speed restrictions are two different topics. The scoot is allowed to reach a top "sustained" speed of 30mph on level ground. If you travel down hill at 50mph, and the speed limit is 55mph you can not be cited for violating the scooter speed restriction limit. If the speed limit were 30mph and you were doing 50mph, well then you are just plain stupid.
moped crash very funny (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccxuaxGc9Uk#)
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My current residence is in South Carolina and the only law I can find dictating the speed of a two wheeled vehicle to be classified as a moped is that if it doesn't exceed 30 mph on level ground. Now, I can't find anything stating it can't go over 30 down hill or about that there needs to be a speed regulator. Does anyone have a better insight on this?
Can't say anything about SC but MN is probably not all that different. In MN most two wheeled vehicles with an engine displacement less than 50 cc can get moped plates and don't require a motorcycle endorsement on your drivers license. On the DMV website there is list of about ten scooters that have 49 cc displacement but still must be licensed as motorcycles and require a motorcycle drivers license. I don't know if the difference is speed or horsepower but the scooters that I'm familiar with that are on the list can all go over 35 mph.
There is not a speed limit per se for a scooter other than the posted limit for that road. Exceeding 30 down hill is okay, at least here in MN. If a cop sees you going over 30 (or 35 or whatever he feels is too fast) and the scoot has moped plates he can pull you over. There are two tickets you could get. If the scooter has been de-stricted or had a big bore kit installed or otherwise modified so as to not meet the state requirements for a moped license you can get a ticket for an improperly licensed vehicle (moped plates instead of motorcycle plates). If the scoot, as it existed when you were stopped, required a motorcycle drivers license, you could get a ticket for driving a motorcycle without a motorcycle license (assuming that you don't have a motorcycle license). If the scoot is stock, you're okay.
That being said, I've never seen or heard of a cop doing this. I know several guys with seriously hopped up 49 cc scoots and several with big bore kits in their (formerly) 49 cc machines. All these guys go too fast and generally ride like dicks. They don't seem to ever get stopped.
I've been riding motorcycles for nearly 40 years and bought my first scooter (Kymco agility 125) this past spring. One thing I noticed early on is that cops, at least in the twin cities, pretty much ignore scooters except for (maybe) parking violations.
Dale B
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No one has really answered my question, but oh well. I'll have to ask my local officer.
lol ya right go ahead tell him you resticed your scoot too.
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Can't say anything about SC but MN is probably not all that different. In MN most two wheeled vehicles with an engine displacement less than 50 cc can get moped plates and don't require a motorcycle endorsement on your drivers license. On the DMV website there is list of about ten scooters that have 49 cc displacement but still must be licensed as motorcycles and require a motorcycle drivers license. I don't know if the difference is speed or horsepower but the scooters that I'm familiar with that are on the list can all go over 35 mph.
There is not a speed limit per se for a scooter other than the posted limit for that road. Exceeding 30 down hill is okay, at least here in MN. If a cop sees you going over 30 (or 35 or whatever he feels is too fast) and the scoot has moped plates he can pull you over. There are two tickets you could get. If the scooter has been de-stricted or had a big bore kit installed or otherwise modified so as to not meet the state requirements for a moped license you can get a ticket for an improperly licensed vehicle (moped plates instead of motorcycle plates). If the scoot, as it existed when you were stopped, required a motorcycle drivers license, you could get a ticket for driving a motorcycle without a motorcycle license (assuming that you don't have a motorcycle license). If the scoot is stock, you're okay.
That being said, I've never seen or heard of a cop doing this. I know several guys with seriously hopped up 49 cc scoots and several with big bore kits in their (formerly) 49 cc machines. All these guys go too fast and generally ride like dicks. They don't seem to ever get stopped.
I've been riding motorcycles for nearly 40 years and bought my first scooter (Kymco agility 125) this past spring. One thing I noticed early on is that cops, at least in the twin cities, pretty much ignore scooters except for (maybe) parking violations.
Dale B
Thank you for your reply, at least someone here is intelligent enough to provide an insightful response to my question.
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Thank you for your reply, at least someone here is intelligent enough to provide an insightful response to my question.
Not the way to make friends is it really? Maybe if you actually posed the question a little better then we would know wtf you were asking and would've been better able to answer it to your satisfaction? If you post a vague question you get vague answers.
Prolly not the best idea to start calling folk unintelligent? Hope you dont have any problems or other vague questions to ask as you may find you have little response if you feel the need to insult people on here, just sayin'. Glad youre finally happy ::)
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Thank you for your reply, at least someone here is intelligent enough to provide an insightful response to my question.
...now there you go...sh**ting in your own bed...
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Not the way to make friends is it really? Maybe if you actually posed the question a little better then we would know wtf you were asking and would've been better able to answer it to your satisfaction? If you post a vague question you get vague answers.
Prolly not the best idea to start calling folk unintelligent? Hope you dont have any problems or other vague questions to ask as you may find you have little response if you feel the need to insult people on here, just sayin'. Glad youre finally happy ::)
A two sentence poised question with a one part answer? Yea...
Responses such as "who cares if its legal make it go faster and injoy it lol. just dont get cought ..." and "If the speed limit is 30 and you go over 30, on a hill or not, youre getting done for speeding if you get caught ..." in no way contributes to the goal of the discussion and is a 'no sh**' response.
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Like i said earlier, state your question clearly and you will get a clear answer. You asked a question which makes little sense as all restricted scoots i know of will go slightly faster than the restriction downhill, when you roll things downhill they speed up believe it or not, have a look on google for a basic kids science page covering gravity and momentum, that will explain it all. Why you need to know this or want to know it is more interesting than the initial question you asked. Unless you plan on building a scoot with some new device to boost speed up and down hills, while still restricting it to 30mph on level ground, then what difference does it make?
You're obviously not a people person are you :D or maybe you just had a bad day? Since your a knob, sorry i meant noob, youre maybe unfamiliar this forum, we are all here to help each other and offer advice where we can, sometimes we post lighthearted comments, which we now know you dont like because you are so serious or uptight i guess? I honestly assumed you were another 16yr old asking the usual stupid questions so i gave my response in a similair vain. To start calling folk stupid makes no sense at all and is itself stupid. You now will have forum members reading this and saying "F**k you mate" because of your attitude,losing you a wealth of help and advice in the future. I know im outta here, just no pleasing some folk ::)
Anyway, enjoy your scoot and any more probs you know where to go............Have a nice day :) and try Chillax a bit. ::)
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Acetylene experiment goes badly wrong! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUVNf-y349E#)
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You asked a question which makes little sense as all restricted scoots i know of will go slightly faster than the restriction downhill
The question makes sense to me, as I know scoots going considerably faster downhill.
- A restriction with limited stroke of the throttle cable (or engine power in general) is nearly ineffective downhill.
- Stop on the top (clutch opens) and roll down without throttle.
But I don't know his local law. In Germany the governmental restricted speed is measured in flat terrain and thus not applicable while riding downhill.
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imho.....the overwhelming majority of cops wouldn't waste their time to stop and card a scooter.....parking ticket maybe yea.......of course states differ re rules.....riding safe entails following local traffic regulations.......regardless of how big or small your engine is.......
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From the title of the thread and the question posed at the beginning i took it that he was worried he may get fined for riding over the prescribed speed allowed for a restricted 50cc moped, hence my 1st answer not to worry. Like Blue i was making light of it but JCuc didnt seem to approve and made a smart comment re intelligence or lack of which was uncalled for.IMO.
Since JCuc has an A50 i assume he is asking his question with regard to that scoot which i also have and it only goes a couple of mph over the restricted speed downhill, since its restricted on the variator, so makes very little difference to the top speed or any laws. Most laws are based on bhp but if its based on speed i would guess they took any short downhill gain over 30mph into account when they set the laws or they simply dont see it as an issue. I expect if groups of 50cc bikers began hanging around steep hills then the authorities would do something about it.
In any case there was no need to put anyone down or be a dick about it which is how i read his replies to comments made,Manners cost nothing. All that was required was for him to better explain what exactly he wanted to know if the answers given were wrong.
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Ok I Sorry for the hard time.
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I dont think we were in the wrong Blue but for harmony and peace i apologise if my comment was taken wrongly.
Awwwww, see, isnt it better when we all just get along. Group hug? ;D
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What? You woosies... I say Hang the fella! Hoo's wid meeee.
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What? You woosies... I say Hang the fella! Hoo's wid meeee.
Hay strido we better get on are scoots and get the hell out of town there out to hang us.
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That would be one hell of a get away. WWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
pocket bike pour enfant de 2ans&1/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ9jSTDYtmI#)
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What? You woosies... I say Hang the fella! Hoo's wid meeee.
He already hung himself earlier Zombie, lifes too short. F*ck it.
And he told you already, if you dont have anything intelligent to say dont say anything at all. You're just being silly now ;D I want to be in captain sensibles scooter club and get all serious and pedantic. (Wow big word there, what does that mean? ;D )
Blue i got your back buddy, me & you, just like butch and sundance :D
..........wait a minute, they got shot to pieces at the end by the Bolivian Army :'(
and that bike in the vid is prolly faster than a stock A50 anyway zombie.
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pedantic: To ped an tic oneself. See AXY... Kinda like "Calothrix" Thought that was a Catholic school girl... Oh well!
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He already hung himself earlier Zombie, lifes too short. F*ck it.
And he told you already, if you dont have anything intelligent to say dont say anything at all. You're just being silly now ;D I want to be in captain sensibles scooter club and get all serious and pedantic. (Wow big word there, what does that mean? ;D )
Blue i got your back buddy, me & you, just like butch and sundance :D
..........wait a minute, they got shot to pieces at the end by the Bolivian Army :'(
and that bike in the vid is prolly faster than a stock A50 anyway zombie.
Hung myself? Nah, I have more important things to do other than arguing with two uneducated fools who can't understand a one part poised question or provide an answer that is even related to the topic at hand.
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The Best of the Three Stooges (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfGWPpPy0uw#noexternalembed)
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That would be one hell of a get away. WWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
pocket bike pour enfant de 2ans&1/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ9jSTDYtmI#)
Maybe the getaway well be faster going down hill.........................................omg did I say that.
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Hung myself? Nah, I have more important things to do other than arguing with two uneducated fools who can't understand a one part poised question or provide an answer that is even related to the topic at hand.
LMAO ;D Hilarious.
Im off to the hills for a ride, im going to go way over 30mph down hills because the lawbooks i read said i was only restricted to 30mph on :level ground so i can go 120mph downhill and the cops cant touch me 8) . After lunch i plan on removing all speed regulators but detuning so i am derestricted but my scoot still cant go over 30mph (apart from up or downhill), thats the way to go, i'll show them for laughing at me. >:(
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LMAO ;D Hilarious.
Im off to the hills for a ride, im going to go way over 30mph down hills because the lawbooks i read said i was only restricted to 30mph on :level ground so i can go 120mph downhill and the cops cant touch me 8) . After lunch i plan on removing all speed regulators but detuning so i am derestricted but my scoot still cant go over 30mph (apart from up or downhill), thats the way to go, i'll show them for laughing at me. >:(
Becarefull the cops might be watching out for scoots that ride hills. they have nothing better to do but sit at the bottom and eat doughnuts .
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so i can go 120mph downhill
..wants me some of that!!!
...dang...ya'll so crazy.....
:o
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Everyone GROW UP! Or I'm stopping this car RIGHT HERE! STOP TOUCHING EACH OTHER!!!
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Everyone GROW UP! Or I'm stopping this car RIGHT HERE! STOP TOUCHING EACH OTHER!!!
lmfao.....................................
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Everyone GROW UP! Or I'm stopping this car RIGHT HERE! STOP TOUCHING EACH OTHER!!!
:D LOL :D