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General => Eye Candy | Videos and Pics => Topic started by: Newb on January 29, 2012, 10:42:44 PM
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nevermind
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Fuel economy might be interesting after all the mods.. ;)
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what size main and slow jet did you used. I replaced my main jet from 118 to 128. Never replaced the slow jet yet. What's your consumption. Mine is an ang 10km/L
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Fuel economy might be interesting after all the mods.. ;)
and the performance??
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hi, i am just wondering if your mirrors get blurred while riding ?
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Keep the info coming! I for one appreciate what you are doing and look forward to your posts. It is true that there is not much of anything on the x500 out there.
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Keep 'em coming. When i see semething I like i would do it! What is the purpose of the voltmeter mod you did?
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Thanks for the info!
Looks factory too.
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Oh man, it's like Christmas at your place! I'd be curious as to the height difference with the new shocks as well as the ride. Also let us know what you think of the side deflectors. As always, looking forward to your posts! You'll love the floor board trims. They make the bike so much more sportier and help keep your feet in place by the perforations.
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I'm in!
Waiting for pics of installed stuff, and comments!
Xmas is right!
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Man I'm lookin at all this and going Ooohh, Ooooohhhh !! Munks's scoot gonna be so nice! Hey, I got the newer rotors for mine. You might be interested in that upgrade too. :D I had to to stop the pulsing -- I didn't want to get my old rotors turned just to have them warp again. They weren't warped much but enough to make braking unsafe and just downright hopping silly. Got tired of pulling up to stoplights bobbing up and down.
Like those mirrors too, Munks! Thanks for the pics! Will love to see it all installed!
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Affect my buying habits is RIGHT! I'll try to resist some of it though. ;) I see your stickers are gone, your reflectors are back on, and there's some new black accents here and there. Nice!
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Nice job on the cluster swap and floorboards. Looks like the cluster install was plug and play. Definitely like the exhaust note also. I may have to spring for the pipe. It's coming together!
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Yeah, I would do the exhaust and filter however it was hard enough to convice the wife I needed a new version of the iPad. Loving the new iPad! I am bidding on a fairly large job as I type this. Hopefully it'll come through. Plenty of bills to pay :-[
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Great! I know there'll be pictures of it soon. ;) I wonder if Chandlerscoot's ERMax will come it now?
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Hi Munks, I'm glad you received your windshield. Just so you know, I've been following the build on your bike. Funny thing is that when I log onto this site, I look forward to what you and Hoolander have done! Not too many of the XC500's rolling around let alone any in my neck of the woods. Keep up the great work and like anything else in life, just hang in there. I will post when I receive my 'screen.
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Now that looks F'in bad ass! Awesome transformation. Definitely gives it a sport look. I love it!
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The exhaust tone is nice when you rev it up. Have you taken it out for a ride yet? If so what are you impressions of the rear shocks? I am thinking of changing mine out but only if it helps drop an inch or two and is not a stiff ride.
Overall, your bike looks way hot. Nice transformation! Amazing how the restyled windshield changes the whole look.
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Very nice Munks. It's a real "Tuner" in my book. I have a link to turbo chargers for your next "itch".
http://www.chinese-parts-canada.com/turbocharger_fuel_injection.html (http://www.chinese-parts-canada.com/turbocharger_fuel_injection.html)
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Really very nice, Munks! I'm especially envious of the shocks. Thanks for the pictures and the detailed info on all you've done. ;) I bet it'll help me and others in the future. Enjoy riding!!
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What main jet did you end up at?
I'm at 5300 feet in elevation so the stock 118 was way rich, so I dropped it down to a 105 which was great.
After I installed the Leo Vince it seemed lean so I bumped it back up to a 115, and I'm pretty happy with it as the airbox is still stock, but it still pops sometimes on decceleration.
Do you still have the 40 pilot jet, and is there still a low end bog with your idle set so High?
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My plug is a nice tan, and the idle mix is 2 1/2 turns out, I fiddled with it quite a bit to get steady revs up and back down on the stand, and almost seamless acceleration under load, but I think I'll try a half turn in for a little more snap.
I thought the Leo Vince would require more fuel on its own, so I might go down to the 108 after more idle mixing, or maybe a 38 pilot jet, but I like the quietness of the stock airbox, even with the Leo, behind the Givi windshield at 75 miles per hour it's nice and pleasant.
That Givi is kind of a big old sail though, and I keep bumping into it, so now that it's warm, I'll put a sport shield on it and try hauling ass. I had it to 150KPH when I was trying to keep up with my son on the Silverwing.
Your mods are an inspiration and your scoot is a proper representative of what the pundits call the "Flagship" of the Kymco fleet.
I'm just crazy about Kymco, so thanks for wrenching and rolling, it gives us all a lot of reassurance.
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Yeah, with the 118 it was blowing black wet soot out of the muffler when it was cold, so I had to do something. The 105 ran good, but the engine sure felt lean with the Leo Vince, but I think I did another overbound with the 115.
I'll go 110, and that's my final offer, unless I try a K&N filter on an 8 inch snorkel to try and bring more air in...
I had good luck cutting a couple coils off the diaphragm spring in a 26mm carb on the Flyscooter, it took the sag right out of mid range, so I should get some more parts to mess with in the CVK 36, I already had to replace a torn diaphragm in the 250 Xciting, something that seems pretty common.
I want to get the engine tuned before I put on a Malossi variator that I got for $150 on ebay, it came with 20 gram weights, which seemed way light, so I ordered some 24s and 28s from welshscooterparts in the UK.
This mod habit can get expensive, but it's not as demanding as women and children, and in many ways, it's much more satisfying.
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Kids are more fun but they always grow up, and leave. Tuning can become an obsession... 22 days of my life on posting about tuning. That's REAL time my friends. Wonder what the Cigarettes have taken?
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How do you like the Hella Yellow Star? I've got the PIAA version. At first, I wasn't sure what to think but now, I can't imagine riding around with anything else. I do know it makes a difference in being seen. It has avoided many left turners from crossing my path so far :D
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Yeah, Munks, I'm on the scene with a 500 Xciting, but I also have a 250 that I got cheap. And a Venox.
And a Grand Vista that I got real cheap just a couple weeks ago, but that's it, I'm not buying any more Kymcos, not until I get a garage like Chandlerscoot's, he's got like a Jay Leno garage.
I ride a different one to work every day, except the Venox, because it's a motorcycle. I park for free downtown at a bicycle rack, because, hey, it's just a scooter!
I started out with a 50, and then they just kept getting bigger and bigger, until there's a big old 500 out there, and nobody complained.
People had noticed though, and one day the security guard came out and said everyone was commenting on the scooters, and they all agreed, they liked the black 500 Xciting the best, that is one beautiful scooter.
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Luvin it Munks
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I have a feeling that is one Kymco I may not be able to beat.
I've seen some real cool set ups running the filter into the seat well. It keeps it out of the rain/dirt, and keeps the noise down. I'm thinking about doing it myself. If there is even water on the road I can't ride or it seals up, and floods the engine with raw fuel.
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Running that long intake should have given a big boost to the bottom end torque. Like the old school high rise venturi stacks. It has kept good top end? If you try experimenting with reducers you may find a formula that REALLY boosts the torque. Maybe 2-3hp gains in just the tube diameter.
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I like that mod. Looks like the way the factory could have done it.
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Tuning with mixed rollers is fine but do not stay with them. The heavier ones take the brunt of the load while the lighter ones "float". If you need a NON produced weight you can fill lighter rollers with epoxy, or molten solder, and drill out to spec. Just rough up the inside barrel with 80 grit paper so it will stick.
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Dr Pulley sliders FTW.
If the stock weights are 31gr, 28gr sliders would do wonders.
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You'll get more tools... Trust me.
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I love the look Munks. Kudos! You'll be turning heads, as well as wrenches.
Sliders are tricky. If you want the SAME rpm's you need to go 1 step heavier than what you have. More rpm= same weight, Less rpm= 2 steps heavier
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I often forget to just ride/enjoy mine... Always looking for one more mph. By the time I get to where I'm going I have 5 more ideas on how to get it too.
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I have lots to learn before I take on sliders. But thanks for that info. I'm thinking I should just get sliders that are the same weight as the stock rollers, as far as I can tell. I'm gonna order some next month. Then start collecting the tools needed.
Sliders of the same weight will result in more or less same revs up to 55-60mph, and after that the revs will
drop considerably compared to the stock round ones. You might loose a bit of your current top speed as a
result, but I can't guarantee it because of the other mods you did, you might end up with 5mph more.
As a rule of thumb, Dr Pulley suggests sliders 10% lighter then your stock weights.
What that does usually is improve the acceleration considerably, but STILL lowers the revs at higher
speeds and saves fuel.
I went from 15.5gr stock to 14gr sliders which resulted in acceleration to 60mph dropping from 11 to 9
seconds at an average 500-600 revs more at wide open throttle while accelerating.
Crusing revs at 75mph went down from 7000 to 6500, and the top speed remained more or less the same
(I'm missing 2-3mph), also at 500 revs less. It's not around 87mph at 7600 revs, which is 400 revs short
of the maximum power of the bike.
That's why I'd never go with sliders even the same weight as stock, not to mention heavier that some
suggest, because even with lighter sliders you end up with lower revs at the top, as you can see.
That's the whole idea behind sliders and the reason they were made.
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Considering some of your mods, you can even gain some, it's hard to tell, but there's ALWAYS a
certain slider weight that will improve both the acceleration and top speed, but it's a bit tricky to
guess which ones.
How often do you ride at your top speed anyways?!
I didn't feel like 75mph at 7000rpms was good for the engine in the long run (DT300) so I kept it
at 65-70mph when going for a longer ride, so the top speed of 90mph was useless to me.
Now, with sliders, I can cruise at 75mph at 6500rpms, so in reality, my usable top speed is now
higher, even if I realistically lost 2-3mph from that 90mph top end.
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My personal experience was very different. I had higher rpm's thu the range. I got to top end quicker, but had major issues with de-accel. It would hold the highest rpm all the way to a dead stop. Too much engine, and not enough var action. I've since given them away with 100 or so miles on them
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NIce scoot sir! I envy scoots with breathers like those K&Ns of yours but can't do them because of frequent rain on this part of the globe. Sigh!