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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: jezyg on January 29, 2012, 11:54:07 AM
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Every time I take my scooter in the rain and then don't use it for 48hours it is an absolute pig to start. To the point I have to use a hairdryer and some WD40 to it to start. Never a problem if used the next day starts first time?????? Today even after using the hair dryer it would not start until I used the kick starter then it roared into life but was over revving. Switched it off for a few mins and restarted and everything was back to normal.
Could this be the auto by starter? It does seem to be coming from somewhere around the carb area by virtue of warming that area and a wee bit of WD40 and it will start and is definitely moisture related, as the cold is not a problem and starts first time. Have it booked in for warranty work on Sat.
Loosing a little faith in the bike now as this has happened a few times, may well go for a Gilera Runner in Sept.
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Every time I take my scooter in the rain and then don't use it for 48hours it is an absolute pig to start. To the point I have to use a hairdryer and some WD40 to it to start. Never a problem if used the next day starts first time?????? Today even after using the hair dryer it would not start until I used the kick starter then it roared into life but was over revving. Switched it off for a few mins and restarted and everything was back to normal.
Could this be the auto by starter? It does seem to be coming from somewhere around the carb area by virtue of warming that area and a wee bit of WD40 and it will start and is definitely moisture related, as the cold is not a problem and starts first time. Have it booked in for warranty work on Sat.
Loosing a little faith in the bike now as this has happened a few times, may well go for a Gilera Runner in Sept.
Strange ??? My inlet manifold had a leak before and i had similair symptoms? Was a cut in the pipe between carb and engine. Mine starts fije in rain or dry. Are you sure you have a fully charged battery? Did it kick and start right away but wont electric start?
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Strange ??? My inlet manifold had a leak before and i had similair sy
mptoms? Was a cut in the pipe between carb and engine. Mine starts fije in rain or dry. Are you sure ayou have a fully charged battery? Did it kick and start right away but wont electric start
Interesting will have a look at that one! Engine turns over fine just feels like no fuel or spark? Kickstarted ss ws concious of draining the battery hence kick starting and after few kicks it burdt into life???? Engine turns over fine but was worried
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If you can kick start it fine I would just say its the battery.But yet check the intake and out take to the carb and make sure they are on tight and no air geting threw theam. I dont like that word warrenty
been there done that just make sure to be strong and make sure they make it warrenty work and no extras kymco is good at that. Good luck.
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Interesting will have a look at that one! Engine turns over fine just feels like no fuel or spark? Kickstarted ss ws concious of draining the battery hence kick starting and after few kicks it burdt into life???? Engine turns over fine but was worried
May be just due to the cold? Mine usually fires up less than a second after trying but the last month or so it does take longer when its real cold ouside. Always starts tho, even if it sits for a week unstarted and my scoot lives outside in my garden with a tarp on it.
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also if its cold wear you are try keeping a 100 watt light next to the scoot for a little wormth it works.
thats if its in a shed. But useing your scoot as a scarecrow in the garden not good ;D just kiding there
jezyg.
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@(jezyg) How many miles have you put on your scoot so far as i dont think yours is that much older than mine i still only have 2200km on mine but hope i dont start having problems as i put more miles on mine, i have no warranty as i done my own first service which i know was a gamble, so far all has been ok touch wood but i have not used it much this winter try to use my push bike as much as possible to keep the miles down but when i move home in a few months will have to rely on agility as work will be a 30 mile round trip and buses are 2 hours apart i may have to think of a second scoot for back up....
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@(jezyg) How many miles have you put on your scoot so far as i dont think yours is that much older than mine i still only have 2200km on mine but hope i dont start having problems as i put more miles on mine, i have no warranty as i done my own first service which i know was a gamble, so far all has been ok touch wood but i have not used it much this winter try to use my push bike as much as possible to keep the miles down but when i move home in a few months will have to rely on agility as work will be a 30 mile round trip and buses are 2 hours apart i may have to think of a second scoot for back up....
Just to say kisbee, kymcos are a lot better than most cheap scoots, they are pretty reliable, def far more reliable than other cheap import and chinese scoots. Regular oil changes and maintain & service it and you should have little bother. When\if you do have problems its usually sokething simple and cheap to fix, course there will be exceptions.
Jezgy did u make sure your cdi/battery box isnt full of water? Mine seals ok and i got my checkerplate floor too but some folk say their battery box leaks in water thro the door on the footplate. Worth a quick look.
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@(jezyg) How many miles have you put on your scoot so far as i dont think yours is that much older than mine i still only have 2200km on mine but hope i dont start having problems as i put more miles on mine, i have no warranty as i done my own first service which i know was a gamble, so far all has been ok touch wood but i have not used it much this winter try to use my push bike as much as possible to keep the miles down but when i move home in a few months will have to rely on agility as work will be a 30 mile round trip and buses are 2 hours apart i may have to think of a second scoot for back up....
I have 1400KM on mine now. I did have a good look and found to possible issues, firstly the fuel pipe had a slight kink in it and the oil level was at minimum. I also found a rubber grommet loose on the back of the carb. It is bizzare though that starts fine even on a cold morning as is stored in the garage with the car. Get it wet and than becomes a pain. I will be on the push bike as well probably March time but I only have a 10 mile round trip.
Did check the battery contacts and CDi and are all fine bright and shiny blasted with some hot air and WD40 for good measure. The battery box should really have a rubber grommet around it IMO. Thanks for all the tips ;D
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(streido) i know what you mean about chinnese scoots before my kymco i had the peugeot kisbee chinnese built and you could tell it had many faults and poor build quality i only had it just over 6 months from new, After reading many reviews i decided to go with kymco as i could not afford another bad buy and it turned out a good buy and 2 months later my wife got the agility rs125 again has been totaly reliable... (jezyg) my oil level also dropped near min at 2000km so i topped it up i also noticed the little pipe that runs under the air filter was getting full so i took the plug/stopper off and let it drain out have you checked yours. my agility usualy starts without throttle (90 percent of the time) i just press the starter for about 2-3 seconds and it fires up it actually seems to start a little quicker the colder it is which im putting down to the auto choke putting itself fully on just hope im not speaking to soon.....
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Yeah from the stories ive heard all those chinese scoots have real bad electrics usually that tend to stop working as soon as you breath on them :D
I ran my kymco just over a year now, 2008 model i got with 9,000 km on it. Now a yr later it has 19,000+ and hasnt given me any real bother, just passed its mot last week and sailed thro without needing anything done :)
Only prob i had was a bad volt rectifier/regulator and the inlet manifold but the manifold was my fault cos i overtightened the clip to hold it on i think. No major prob yet, fingers crossed.
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(streido) i know what you mean about chinnese scoots before my kymco i had the peugeot kisbee chinnese built and you could tell it had many faults and poor build quality i only had it just over 6 months from new, After reading many reviews i decided to go with kymco as i could not afford another bad buy and it turned out a good buy and 2 months later my wife got the agility rs125 again has been totaly reliable... (jezyg) my oil level also dropped near min at 2000km so i topped it up i also noticed the little pipe that runs under the air filter was getting full so i took the plug/stopper off and let it drain out have you checked yours. my agility usualy starts without throttle (90 percent of the time) i just press the starter for about 2-3 seconds and it fires up it actually seems to start a little quicker the colder it is which im putting down to the auto choke putting itself fully on just hope im not speaking to soon.....
Cheers for that Kisbee I will check it! The bike seems to be running better this morning after adding some oil and sorting out the fuel line back to its normal self!! Been meaning to ask Kisbee performance wise how your Speedflight 3 compared to your AG 50? The liquid cooled 50 engines are supposed to rev higher and be a bit perkier but are all 2 stroke so a more narrow powerband.
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Yeah from the stories ive heard all those chinese scoots have real bad electrics usually that tend to stop working as soon as you breath on them :D
I ran my kymco just over a year now, 2008 model i got with 9,000 km on it. Now a yr later it has 19,000+ and hasnt given me any real bother, just passed its mot last week and sailed thro without needing anything done :)
Only prob i had was a bad volt rectifier/regulator and the inlet manifold but the manifold was my fault cos i overtightened the clip to hold it on i think. No major prob yet, fingers crossed.
The Kymco's weak area is the mainly the electrics, if they just used better quality contacts or insulated them better issues would be lessened. Our climate is the worst in the wold for anything electrical and mechanical. The moisture coupled with the salt on the roads can cause nightmares. Since Christmas rust has appeared in various places on my bike......but for the price you have to make allowances they are not expensive bikes and mechanically are well made and a good engine.
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The Kymco's weak area is the mainly the electrics, if they just used better quality contacts or insulated them better issues would be lessened. Our climate is the worst in the wold for anything electrical and mechanical. The moisture coupled with the salt on the roads can cause nightmares. Since Christmas rust has appeared in various places on my bike......but for the price you have to make allowances they are not expensive bikes and mechanically are well made and a good engine.
Where is the rust starting? I didnt expect rust issues so soon after you bought it? My 2008 has little rust on it, just a bit on the frame under the seat but not much and its just surface rust. Apart from that some panel screws and my stand its holding up well. I think. Must say i have found my electrics ok, seems not bad quality. All connections etc are good and no bad crimps or joints, none i found so far anyway.
On the speedfights, i had a speedfight 1 100cc 2 stroke which i got cheap (well free actually) and rebuilt with a view to selling the a50. After riding the speedfight i decided tp keep my a50. Maybe the newer ones are better but my 100cc one only gave me around an extra 5-10mph, tho it was a little better uphill, so i decided it wasnt worth the expense of doing my test. It wasnt liquid cooler either so maybe the new 50's are better. Get a geared Vespa if you want real quality.
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Where is the rust starting? I didnt expect rust issues so soon after you bought it? My 2008 has little rust on it, just a bit on the frame under the seat but not much and its just surface rust. Apart from that some panel screws and my stand its holding up well. I think. Must say i have found my electrics ok, seems not bad quality. All connections etc are good and no bad crimps or joints, none i found so far anyway.
On the speedfights, i had a speedfight 1 100cc 2 stroke which i got cheap (well free actually) and rebuilt with a view to selling the a50. After riding the speedfight i decided tp keep my a50. Maybe the newer ones are better but my 100cc one only gave me around an extra 5-10mph, tho it was a little better uphill, so i decided it wasnt worth the expense of doing my test. It wasnt liquid cooler either so maybe the new 50's are better. Get a geared Vespa if you want real quality.
My headlight was awfully put together and had to be replaced cheap metal contacts and plastic made the problem worse with it arcing and melting the holder . The battery box needs a rubber grommet around and better splash protection at the back of the carb and just better quality wire. As for rust top of my forks inside the front cowling, also on the downpipe around the VIN plate. At the back some around the engine mounts and stand. Odd bit's of tarnish on the odd bolt but then that is expected, as soon as the better weather comes around I will splash some black hammerite on and clean off any tarnish. I wash it once a week sometimes more if it has been out in the wet and salt. My exhaust has no rust on it at all so the waxing and cleaning seems to of worked so far........
The interesting thing about the Vespa is the chassis is pretty much the same as the Gilera Runner and NRG all being Piaggio, they all use various Piaggio engines the water cooled two stroke with front and rear discs being the top of the range 50cc and the engine I am looking at. You pay for a much built better body and less plastic. The dealer I got my Kymco from is now a Vespa dealer so may well have a look although Gilera Runner SP50 is still top of my list if I decide to change in Sept. Depends if the extra performance is worth it or not as will be a 1K jump....
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It may be the same chassis on the new vespas and gilleras but i meant get a proper vespa, the classic shape thats all metal and has gears. Dount that chassis is used by anyone other than vespa and lml (cheap indian vespa). LML are basically vespas made under licence in India and badged as lml. Get one of those and swap for vespa badges and nobody would be any wiser. Think the build quality is still good, at least on ones i saw about.
Course if you want a more modern scoot then it may not be for you?
I kind of wish i had bought myself a two stroke instead of my a50 just for the better torque and acceleration etc. Chose the four stroke as its meant to be more reliable but it feels im missing the fun factor at times, usually going up a long hill :'(
Should have my Vespa T5 finished and on the road by spring ;D
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It may be the same chassis on the new vespas and gilleras but i meant get a proper vespa, the classic shape thats all metal and has gears. Dount that chassis is used by anyone other than vespa and lml (cheap indian vespa). LML are basically vespas made under licence in India and badged as lml. Get one of those and swap for vespa badges and nobody would be any wiser. Think the build quality is still good, at least on ones i saw about.
Course if you want a more modern scoot then it may not be for you?
I kind of wish i had bought myself a two stroke instead of my a50 just for the better torque and acceleration etc. Chose the four stroke as its meant to be more reliable but it feels im missing the fun factor at times, usually going up a long hill :'(
Should have my Vespa T5 finished and on the road by spring ;D
Understand now, yep the build quality of those older Vespas' was rock solid but the new ones are not too bad either. Like you I would love to do up an older "Classic" scoot. New ones are engineered just like cars to platform share to enable "economies of scale". Will have to look up the Indian LML ;D
I am not too keen on the two stroke noise and thought the 4 stroke would be a nice ride overall. But have found especially with a 50cc the extra power and torque is more important overall even the AG50 engine is a very sweet little runner and maybe if it had a rad and injection could yield another 1-2Bhp?????
Looking forward to seeing the pics of your completed Vespa and interesting to here how it performs ;D
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Om still sanding and prepping, feels like it will never end ;D
Got a big box of nice new shiney parts to fit once its painted. Took some pics at the weekend so maybe put up a post under projects cos you can put up non kymco bikes ok. Cant wait to get it done. Got my wheels powder coated a nice red colour at work last week for free so need some white walls to go on them and it should look sweet. Doing body a gunmetal silver once i find the exact shade i want, poss a bmw or merc colour. Those LML are pretty big and there are many dealers here doing them. Not sure on the price but must be cheaper than original Vespas.
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@(jezyg)My peugeot speedfight 3 was another mistake i made last year i thought i was just unlucky at first with the kisbee and with my wife also wanting a scooter after we had sold are car, we really liked the look of the sp3 and hoped it would be better but had it less than 5 weeks it was hard to start sometimes it would start first time sometimes after few minutes of elec and kick then sometimes not at all then you would come back to it a few hours later and it would fire up first time but as you could imagine thats no good when me or my wife are relying on it to get to work. It was the air cooled version as it was about 400 pound cheaper than water cooled but being a/c it had a rear drum and i had problems with the brake shoes not realeasesing from the drum after you had pulled brake i decided to get out why i could and sold it at a 500 pound loss so thank god the kymco's were not a mistake. As for performance yes it was lively it would also pull up hills at its restricted speed of 32mph shown on digital dash which was a nice feature, on my kymco same hill it can strugle to get to 20mph. So although the kymco,s may not be as sporty looking as many scoots i quickly realised i needed to put reliability first. As for rust the only place so far is my exhaust all my screw/bolt heads that were exposed i coverd in a thin smear of comma grease that i purchased from wilkinsons its only about £3 for a 500g pot....
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Om still sanding and prepping, feels like it will never end ;D
Got a big box of nice new shiney parts to fit once its painted. Took some pics at the weekend so maybe put up a post under projects cos you can put up non kymco bikes ok. Cant wait to get it done. Got my wheels powder coated a nice red colour at work last week for free so need some white walls to go on them and it should look sweet. Doing body a gunmetal silver once i find the exact shade i want, poss a bmw or merc colour. Those LML are pretty big and there are many dealers here doing them. Not sure on the price but must be cheaper than original Vespas.
Had a look at them and they do look nice and well made, about 2.6K starting price and only 125cc. Love to see the pics sounds like it will look fab love the colour choice very classy!!
Thanks Kisbee I would be put off Pugs for life after that, I had a 306 and that was a lemon then my wife much latter had a 307 made from chewing gum and a disintegrating flywheel.....vowed never to buy Peugeot again. Give my AG its due it has never failed to start in the morning or leaving work, any refusals to start has been on a Sunday. Emptied the drain pipe and it was full and kink in the fuel line was restricting fuel as bike is picking up better again.
New bike is dependant on my book sales as the deal is my wife gets a dog and I get a new scooter if I make enough money by Sept ;D
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From the peugeot scoot forum i joined at the time the big let down on all speedfights was the inbuilt imobiliser. Every model had issues with them going dodgy. That was the issue on mine. When i got it it wouldnt spark at all no matter what,
.guessed it was prob the imobiliser so i bypassed it and took it out, had to replace my peugeot cdi with a chinese one and hook it in to the original wiring. Easy ish job on the mk 1, mk2 is slightly more complex to bypass and needs the stator swapped too, mk3's are not worth even trying to bypass as its too expensive and complex so not worth it. I sold mine to a neighbour and he still uses it so i guess i did something right ;D
Whats your book Jezyg? Got a link?
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From the peugeot scoot forum i joined at the time the big let down on all speedfights was the inbuilt imobiliser. Every model had issues with them going dodgy. That was the issue on mine. When i got it it wouldnt spark at all no matter what,
.guessed it was prob the imobiliser so i bypassed it and took it out, had to replace my peugeot cdi with a chinese one and hook it in to the original wiring. Easy ish job on the mk 1, mk2 is slightly more complex to bypass and needs the stator swapped too, mk3's are not worth even trying to bypass as its too expensive and complex so not worth it. I sold mine to a neighbour and he still uses it so i guess i did something right ;D
Whats your book Jezyg? Got a link?
Those Pugs do sound a mare a shame as the SP3 does look nice, I would only go Piaggio group or Yamaha if not Kymco.
I have a few books best selling is the "Police Officers Guide" here is the link to all of them on Amazon ignore my profile pic don't want you having nightmares!! :o
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jeremy-Green/e/B006JRDXFW/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jeremy-Green/e/B006JRDXFW/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1)
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Im hopeing my agility will last me at least 3 years then hopeing by then kymco will have a electric model how easy would that be your only real maintanence is to wash it and check the tyre pressure :), puegeot are bringing out a elec vivacity with 4kw output the max to allow it to be classed as a moped so you can still ride it on your car licence and thats still more output tham most 50cc 2 strokes its just a shame its a pug as i will never give them my money again. Also i can see the price of fuel start to rise a lot more sharply as oil reserves start to strugle even more with growing demand....
Peugeot e-Vivacity Scooter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wufq775XSbE#ws)
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sweet need to safe some cash for that one.
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Electric does sound cool. All depends on the length to recharge tho and its ranve before running out of battery.
And the price of the scoot too.
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The problem is the price again, looking at around 3.8K at the mo for the Pug :o The batteries themselves are just too expensive, looked at a few electric bikes before deciding to stick with petrol as you needed to use allot of petrol to offset the cost of the bike.
As soon as battery tech gets cheaper which it will I can see them taking off, only downside is they are much harder to derestrict ??? Also still have doubts on how long batteries will actually last and the replacement cost. On something like the Nissan Leaf replacement batteries cost over 10K and I think the Pug is around the 2K mark. Range is mooted to be about 35 miles then a 4 hour charge and a top speed of 30mph. Looks a nice bike and is made in France not China. Not sure if that will help build quality or not but at 3.8K you expectations will be higher!!
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Im sure i read that you need to replace the batteries on the cars every few yrs? Fine if its a warranty item but not so fine after warranty runs out. For me the recharge and range is the big issues with electric. I want a 100mile range minimum and recharge in a couple of hours. Until then i would leave it alone. Last thing i want is to push my ride home cos its got a flat battery. At least with petrol you can refill easily.
You would think they could do electric scoots way easier and better performing that the cars by now? Ideally you want an electric scoot that charges thro fold out solar panels when you park and on the garage roof at home then you dont pay a dime for fuel. No way the oil corps would allow that tho >:(
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I can not see battery prices coming down as the recources needed to make the batterys are rear electric cars like the nissan leaf still require a lot of oil in there manufacture i think the average car uses 18 barrels of oil to manufature times that by 10 million and you have drained a oil field, i think in a few years most people will be lookind at elec scooters and bikes rather than being able to afford electric cars especialy as we now need to compete for recources with india and china's growing economy. Im not saying the technology will not get better but can not see the price coming down also then there will be demand on the electric grid at a time when energy cost are going through the roof simply because supply strugles to meet demand, we already see this in the uk when energy prices go up every winter but come down slightly when we have a mild winter if demand has not been to high....
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Sales of electric cars have not been as expected the Leaf has done ok, but range anxiety is still the biggest issue. Chevy Volt or Vx Ampera that can charge themselves is the best soloution. I would want 50 or a weeks commuting so I would only have to charge up at the weekends. How about a hybrid scooter? Small battery to boost acceleration with a motor in the front wheel to aid stability and traction?
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Sales of electric cars have not been as expected the Leaf has done ok, but range anxiety is still the biggest issue. Chevy Volt or Vx Ampera that can charge themselves is the best soloution. I would want 50 or a weeks commuting so I would only have to charge up at the weekends. How about a hybrid scooter? Small battery to boost acceleration with a motor in the front wheel to aid stability and traction?
This defo sounds like a future project for me :P Im an electrician/electrical engineer so can prob work out the motor and wiring etc pretty easy. Maybe once i clear my feet a bit i'll look into it. We need some way to store the charge from solar during the day so i can charge my scoot at night in the garage for free, or you need 2 sets of batteries, 1 to use and 1 to charge swapping them each night, thats my take on it. That way you have zero fuel bills. If i had a bigger garage and a more patient wife i would start looking for a donor scoot and parts, but i would be a dead man if i brought home more "junk" to fix right now, 2 scoots and a beetle is about her tollerance level ::)
You being a cop Jezyg maybe you can advise me something? I welded up the holes on my Vespa for the front indicators cos im giving it the older vintage look ( early vespas had no indicators on them), I need some kind of turn signal tho for mot. Do you know if it would be legal to run with only bar end indicators at the front? I have older style rear indicators. Like these? - http://website.lineone.net/~smallframes/blinkerwiring.htm (http://website.lineone.net/~smallframes/blinkerwiring.htm)
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This defo sounds like a future project for me :P Im an electrician/electrical engineer so can prob work out the motor and wiring etc pretty easy. Maybe once i clear my feet a bit i'll look into it. We need some way to store the charge from solar during the day so i can charge my scoot at night in the garage for free, or you need 2 sets of batteries, 1 to use and 1 to charge swapping them each night, thats my take on it. That way you have zero fuel bills. If i had a bigger garage and a more patient wife i would start looking for a donor scoot and parts, but i would be a dead man if i brought home more "junk" to fix right now, 2 scoots and a beetle is about her tollerance level ::)
You being a cop Jezyg maybe you can advise me something? I welded up the holes on my Vespa for the front indicators cos im giving it the older vintage look ( early vespas had no indicators on them), I need some kind of turn signal tho for mot. Do you know if it would be legal to run with only bar end indicators at the front? I have older style rear indicators. Like these? - http://website.lineone.net/~smallframes/blinkerwiring.htm (http://website.lineone.net/~smallframes/blinkerwiring.htm)
Sounds like a plan for a Hybrid bike you just need the solar panels like the ones used to top up heating/electricity on your roof would pretty much supply enough power on a decent day.
Those indicators will be fine there is no legal requirement in the UK for the actual positioning just that they should be orange light and to the front. As long as the indicators have no sharp edges that could injure a pedestrian and will not be obstructed by anything are legal. Think they would meet the MOT requirement as well.
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Cool cheers for that Jezyg. If it fails the mot i'll blame it all on you :D It was a common mod to do it the 60's & 70's im told by those more informed and older than me. Just need to wait till payday now :(
Soon as i get free time/space im on the electric project. Hope to have Vespa on the road by march -April then hopefully finish most of the VW over summer-Autumn so maybe look at battery power as next yrs winter project. Now i just need to find a council worker who fits the solar signposts............maybe he may have a few "extra" ones going cheap ;)
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Yes you can blame me ;D But not too much different the the under slung indicators on the older AG, just a slightly different position.
Sounds like a plan the Beetle will be a good one as well, bit of a pig to drive but have such character, no good for me though as I do like my modern comforts and the Mrs is hankering for a Q3 or Evoque late next year.....she had better go and get a job then lol
DIY electic scooter is the way to go, still feel our plonkers are being pulled a bit, yes batteries are expensive but the rest of the kit is pretty cheap and simple. Find an old Sinclair C5 and use parts from that. I reckon you could get a decent glass matt battery in the storage area enough to do a decent hybrid bike????
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My beetle was a pleasure to drive, very comfy too. You just need to get used to the gearing on them, its a bit like the gears on a van, ie when to change. I had gas shocks on mine and had altered the suspension so it rode like on rails. All round drum brakes were "fun" tho, i give you that ;D
If only i could give up work and get on with all the important stuff?
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My beetle was a pleasure to drive, very comfy too. You just need to get used to the gearing on them, its a bit like the gears on a van, ie when to change. I had gas shocks on mine and had altered the suspension so it rode like on rails. All round drum brakes were "fun" tho, i give you that ;D
If only i could give up work and get on with all the important stuff?
Sounds much better than the Beetle I drove had to use the gearbox to enhance the breaking, anyway if you own a beetle you own an original Porsche ;)
Work has bad habit of getting in the way of important stuff!!!
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LMAO "enhance the braking" :D Yeah, been there. Theres a knack to driving them, you just get used to pulling on the handbrake while you press the pedal in an emergency situation. Its an artform getting it just right so you stop quick without the back locking up, it makes it more fun ;D Im happy to lose all those electronics and gizmos, less to go wrong.
5 to 8 and im just in from work, been out since 6:45 this morn. I remember watching Tomorrows World as a kid promising in the future we would all be lounging around cos robots and computers would be helping us out? Still waiting for my droid tho? Hmmm, a personal droid? I feel another project coming on !
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LMAO "enhance the braking" :D Yeah, been there. Theres a knack to driving them, you just get used to pulling on the handbrake while you press the pedal in an emergency situation. Its an artform getting it just right so you stop quick without the back locking up, it makes it more fun ;D Im happy to lose all those electronics and gizmos, less to go wrong.
5 to 8 and im just in from work, been out since 6:45 this morn. I remember watching Tomorrows World as a kid promising in the future we would all be lounging around cos robots and computers would be helping us out? Still waiting for my droid tho? Hmmm, a personal droid? I feel another project coming on !
My poor co-ordination would get in the way of such driving tricks, some days I am amazed I manage to walk in a straight line ;D
Good old tomorrows world promised us so much and the only one I can remember that did come true is storing music and information on a solid state memory device. TW showed it as a cube that you put into an electronic reader. My robot is called "the wife" just give it a bit of romance and TLC and it's quite a useful device around the home still not as useful as R2D2 though ;D
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My robot is called "the wife" just give it a bit of romance and TLC and it's quite a useful device around the home still not as useful as R2D2 though ;D
Yeah, i got one of them too, mine seems to have a malfunction tho cos it never obeys my instructions and tends to shut down when i mention the word "Sex" ?
I may need to trade it in for a newer model if i cant get it re-programmed :)