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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: bmcafee on January 11, 2012, 06:32:46 PM
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I have a Agility 50 "deresticted" and it has a "50mm" or 81cc kit on it am wondering what kind of a difference upgrading the exhaust would make. Also was thinking about a 24mm carb. let me know what y'all think. If I only were to do one what should be?
Thanks,
Brian.
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I have heard that you can just cut the muffler pipe end off and that well help but not much.
I also have see wear you take the muffler off cut it in half and hollow it out then weld back together.
that I know works one of my buddys did it to his agilty 50 with a 70 kit on it.
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Wordslinger will probably know , but I know he has had some success with larger carbs . How fast will it go now ?
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43-44 in good weather on the flat actual, NOT speedo, seems like it is bogged down though. From the sound and feel I figured an exhaust upgrade would let it breath enough. So sounds like exhaust first then.
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thats all you get out of it and it has a kit on it all.ready mmmm.
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for blue it allows me to easily keep up with traffic, "the main reason for the upgrade". after derestricting i still was getting run off the road. not anymore. so for me it was Well worth it. I do agree that it's not something to do without thinking of the problems that it can cause.
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true I always tell people that if thats what they want then they should of got a bigger scott. you can only do so much with a 50 cc .a 125 would of been better.
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How did you get an 80cc kit to work with a stock carb?
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How did you get an 80cc kit to work with a stock carb?
..you read my mind......
???
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it was not easy but it works i think im running a 92 jet and I removed the air box and replaced with cone filter. to wordslinger what carb would you suggest? have read enough of your posts to get you have been through this a few times. I was thinking about just a 24mm intake with the auto choke I think that it is made for a 125? I would like to do both exhause and carb at the same time which should not be an issue in 3 weeks. also does anyone have a good recomendation on a resonable priced exhaust that will work well with the larger carb and the 80cc kit? thanks alot guys if it wasnt for yall i would still be walkin....
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to wordslinger what carb would you suggest? have read enough of your posts to get you have been through this a few times
..wwelll, i've never built an engine...but, yeah a 22-24mm carb and larger intake would definately work..
..i saw a technigas exhaust onna 72 kit the other day..chinese scoot, but it ran well...
peace
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larger intake as in the air filter going in to the carb or the diaphram goin from the carb to the motor itself? Thanks for the super quick responce
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...the larger carb will have a larger air intake i.d.
..i would suggest fitting a larger intake manifold from carb to engine..
..possibly might even want to look at opening the port going into your engine with something like a dremel tool....
:o
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How did you get an 80cc kit to work with a stock carb?
..you read my mind......
???
Guys, the Agility 50 is originally made with a 80ccm engine, so therefore the carburator and exhaust is made to the 80ccm engine, although they sell the 50ccm engine to western countries. ALL of the bike is made to the 80ccm engine, so the stock carb should be enough, unless you want even MOAR power from it ;D
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unless you want even MOAR power from it
..isnt that why we build?..
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Guys, the Agility 50 is originally made with a 80ccm engine, so therefore the carburator and exhaust is made to the 80ccm engine, although they sell the 50ccm engine to western countries. ALL of the bike is made to the 80ccm engine, so the stock carb should be enough, unless you want even MOAR power from it ;D
Wow thats the frist I herd this . I f this is true how can we tell if we have a 50 cc or a 80 cc.
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Wow thats the frist I herd this . I f this is true how can we tell if we have a 50 cc or a 80 cc.
Really the first time?! :O
Im getting told this all the time on a forum which aren't even specialized in agilitys. :D
So far, i haven't heard of anyone who mistakenly have received an 80ccm engine from the factory, when they live in a western country, but the only way to be totally sure is, to measure the engine. :)
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..never heard of an 80 oem agility...125 for sure...not an 80...
..imma have to research that...
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..never heard of an 80 oem agility...125 for sure...not an 80...
..imma have to research that...
Please do let us know what you find out.
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unless you want even MOAR power from it
..isnt that why we build?..
Perhaps. I change parts to get the most clean combustion, and use the power, that the engine is already capable of most efficient. Not to get more power, but to use the power that is already in it.
..never heard of an 80 oem agility...125 for sure...not an 80...
..imma have to research that...
I will ask the guys on the other forum for where they've heard this, so i can investigate it further. :)
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..i change parts in order to go faster...
..wwweeeeeee!!!!!!
;D
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baddi I also thought, that was common knowledge.
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Hey guys! I just started messing w/ a 4t 139qmb. First thing was a 50mm kit w/ head. The stock vacuum carb should be tossed right away. I am using a 19mm delorto slide carb from an old 2t, and it works like a champ. The ONLY draw back is if you "snap" the throttle full open there is a split second bog due to no accelerator pump. If you ride smooth you will never know this. Adding a pipe will look/sound good, but no real help there. Ohhh the intake from a 125 qmb engine will work, or you can burn off the rubber on your stock intake. The rubber will flake off when toasted, and you will have a new aluminum intake to adapt any carb you want to it. Bottom line is a slide type carb 19mm-24mm will be the ticket. Jetting is anyones guess. I have a 40 pilot, and 95 main in mine. 53-54mph top. 6gr rollers/stock clutch setup. A good long term help for the kit is to drill oliers in the wrist pin bosses, and mirror polish the dome. The rough cast dome will hold carbon until it becomes a problem. ps. I am using Castrol Syntec straight 30 weight for this engine. It spins up like a sewing machine!
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..zombie, my brother...welcome back into the fold...
..sounds like youve been a busy little bee...
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Hey guys just realized that I got a replacment carb when i ordered the kit it is a 19mm intake on it here is a link
http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/scca50gy6en.html (http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/scca50gy6en.html)
My question is will this be big enough or should I go with this?? or should I order the 24mm?
I just dont want to do all the tweeking for this one if it is not going to be worth it.
Thanks again guys.
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what size is the stock carb. the 24mm is for the 125 scoot but yet it looks like it might even work on a 50 never know tell ya try.
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...oem carbs are 17 or 18mm..
..i can say for sure, that the 20mm i bought for my 08 did increase performance greatly..
peace
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...oem carbs are 17 or 18mm..
..i can say for sure, that the 20mm i bought for my 08 did increase performance greatly..
peace
what kind of air filter and pipe are you useing with that the 20 mm carb and well it work ok with stock air box and pipe.
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oem stock is 17mm (intake) im wondering if the 2mm bigger intake will be sufficient or not.
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I am using the stock intake, except for removing the rubber coating from it. Once the rubber is off you basicly have a "pipe" sticking out of the engine to attach ANY fuel proof hose to as your new coupler. The biggest problem w/ the vacuum carb is ethanol. The rubber diaphragm swells reducing the throttle response. That is why I suggest a slide carb. I also use a mechanical choke as there is no guessing if it is working or not
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what kind of air filter and pipe are you useing with that the 20 mm carb
..any carb will work...its a matter of getting your jet sizes corrct so that you're not running rich or lean...
..i was using K&N free flow filtr with my modified OEM exhaust...
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what kind of air filter and pipe are you useing with that the 20 mm carb
..any carb will work...its a matter of getting your jet sizes corrct so that you're not running rich or lean...
..i was using K&N free flow filtr with my modified OEM exhaust...
ok thanks Think ill stick with the 19 dont wana play around to much my wallet is that big any more.