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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Yager GT 200i => Topic started by: CROSSBOLT on November 20, 2011, 04:25:13 PM
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I removed the battery yesterday to inspect it. There is a pretty clear instruction on the top where most would have vent/fill caps, "DO NOT REMOVE." That should be the end of it but I suspect this is like all the lower end SLA "maintenance free" batteries in that they have damp separators and they really dry out. Found this in a couple of Chinese electric scoots we used to have. I popped the tops off of those and put in distilled water and got phenomenal life out of them! I am spring loaded to do the same on the Yager battery BUT I just wonder if any of you have pried the top off of yours yet and what did you find.
Karl
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Karl, I have never heard of taking appart a battery and adding distilled water. How old is your battery and was it getting weak? Please keep us informed of your progress. It sounds interesting.
Richard L.
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Hey, fish! I am not taking the battery apart, just thinking of removing the rubbery strip that says " DO NOT REMOVE" THINKING it covers the fill ports normally found on a 12 v lead acid battery. Just to see WTF is in there! IF I do it and it looks dry I might add a little distilled H2O to make it look "wetter" and yes, it does seem at times to be challenged like when I use the headlight without the engine running to get ready to ride or quit riding. THEN the start is a little labored.
However, over on the Modern Buddy forum, a poster babblefish steered readers to a Shoei site with Lithium Ion batteries for motorcycles and scoots. Really nice stuff! Should be for about 150 bucks per battery!
Anyhoo, I will let you-all know what I find....
Karl
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Thanks Karl
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However, over on the Modern Buddy forum, a poster babblefish steered readers to a Shoei site with Lithium Ion batteries for motorcycles and scoots. Really nice stuff! Should be for about 150 bucks per battery!
SYCL batteries has the 4 cell ballistic that takes the leads place for 99.00 and it weighs less than a pound. putting one in this spring, drops 8 or 9 pounds off the rear end of the scoot. also took off the cast grab handles, back rest, rack thingy and mounted a top box close to the seat. much lighter in the back end already. can't wait to put in the ballistic battery. that cast piece is heavy. looks way better than putting the box hanging off the back of that cast rack thingy. ;D
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SYCL batteries has the 4 cell ballistic that takes the leads place for 99.00 and it weighs less than a pound. putting one in this spring, drops 8 or 9 pounds off the rear end of the scoot. also took off the cast grab handles, back rest, rack thingy and mounted a top box close to the seat. much lighter in the back end already. can't wait to put in the ballistic battery. that cast piece is heavy. looks way better than putting the box hanging off the back of that cast rack thingy. ;D
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So where's the pic?
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here you go
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here's the box
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I have salvaged a few of the "Maintenance Free" Batts. Every one of them was bone dry from overcharging. I bought a box of electrolyte (battery acid) for 15 bucks, and have enough to fill about a dozen or so batteries. I emptied whatever concentrate that was left in the batt. Topped it off w/ fresh electrolyte, and charged as usual. I only remember one that would not come back. most likely a burnt post in that one. The label is there to make you buy a new one in my opinion
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I have salvaged a few of the "Maintenance Free" Batts. Every one of them was bone dry from overcharging. I bought a box of electrolyte (battery acid) for 15 bucks, and have enough to fill about a dozen or so batteries. I emptied whatever concentrate that was left in the batt. Topped it off w/ fresh electrolyte, and charged as usual. I only remember one that would not come back. most likely a burnt post in that one. The label is there to make you buy a new one in my opinion
Now that is interesting. I have no doube that Zombie is correct.
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well i received the sycl battery and it would not start the scoot properly. sending it back for a refund. :(
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What was the Ah rating?
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8 pbeq a/h
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And it wouldn't start it ? I would have bet it would...
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i have no meter to check voltage. my charger has led's for,charging, charged. not sure if it's the correct type for the battery and don't want to void warrenty. supposed to come fully charged ready to go. asking them to let me know what's up with it. i'll let you know !
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I just filled / recharged another of those "sealed" 7ah batteries yesterday. Works fine after 3hr. @ 2.2 amps. Like all the others it was bone dry.
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What are you doing with the restored batteries Zombie.
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I sell them to the North Koreans. They use them to train monkey guards in child labor camps. Don't tell PETA! They'll be pissed about the monkeys.
No not really... Most scoots that come to me are in trucks. The first thing is pull the plug, and get a battery on it to see what I have. So I have a few "house" batteries to test with, and MOST times I can salvage the customers battery,and let it charge while I fix the scoot. It saves them the cost of a battery. I charge about 5 bucks for the acid depending on size.
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It's OK with me if you sell them to the N. Koreans, just make certain you fill them with pxss.
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Those monkeys are tough. Takes more than a little pee to keep their attention.
Don't really care about the child laborers tho... We ALL need sneakers/t shirts.
Making Christmas Ornaments for Wal-Mart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHbjI5Jd_4Y#)
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Yager Battery have been consider as a best things for every two wheeler as well as mopeds. It is to be denoted as a best option to run your vehicles smoothly because of its good performance.
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KYMCO is a company which is make a scooter or bikes. It is Taiwanese company. Yager battery is a part of this. You can recharge the bike or scooter with the help of it.
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Update: Battery finally died. So, with nothing to lose I prised off the "DO NOT OPEN" strip and it was 6 little tubular caps exposing six cell that were dry as a bone. Topped with distilled water and put on charge for a day, reinstalled and again have a reliable 200i. Word to the wise: I should have done this a long time ago before the cells got dried up since now max sustained after charging volts is only 12.6 after the surface charge disappears. This means new battery before winter. I checked my wife's Buddy 150 which has had no problem and it was almost dry so I topped it with distilled water and charged and it would sustain 12.9 volts. So remove the "DO NOT OPEN" thingy and put some water in your battery!
Karl
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At the "DRY" stage I fill with new battery acid. A one gallon box costs about 10.00. For maintenance use distilled water.
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Yeah, zomb, but you are workin' a shop and it pays to have some 1.350 acid in a box! Word here about "topping": I think that just over the fiber mat is enough, don't you?
Karl
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Agreed... For maintenance topping it of with water is best. Most of the chemicals do not evaporate. But a bone dry batt. can be saved with new electrolyte.
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Those of you with battery experience. What would be your suggestions for how often (or milage) to check the battery fluid? I have one Yager almost a year old with 5400 miles and a brand new one that has not had it's first oil change. I have a charging cable on the older one and have ordered a cable for the new one. It amazes me that these batteries can take a little charging after sitting for a week and God help you it the mit in light stays on over nite.
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Cove, I would recommend you check the battery in the old one NOW. If it looks dry, that is, the white separators visible between dark plate tops, add just enough distilled water to make the separators look wet and no more. Then check in a month to see what it looks like. Let it go for two months for the next check if they are still wet. Start looking for a new battery if you have to "wet" it every month. I think mine worked for about a year before it acted up. Its life could have been extended had I checked it sooner.
Karl
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Thanks Karl, I will follow your advice.
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Karl, you were so right about those batteries. The 1&1/2 yr old 150 only had water visible in two cells and the almost 1 yr old Yager needed water added. Decided to check every 3000 miles or 6 months.
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I've added a battery level check / fill to my maintenance schedule, once every 3600 miles.
If anyone needs the maintenance schedule, it's Yager GT 200i specific, and exceeds the recommended manufacturer maintenance schedule, with specific entries for engine break-in (more frequent oil and filter changes when new). Just message me if you want it, I've got it in Microsoft Excel .XLS spreadsheet and OpenOffice Calc . ODS spreadsheet format.