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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: CROSSBOLT on January 28, 2009, 03:19:42 PM
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Asked around the forums to no avail so I called the dealer service guy and got an answer! The sleeve is a replacement for the one in the CVT front pulley which has a limiter ring machined on it. The jet is a bigger main for utilizing the expanded range of the CVT. Two year warranty and soup-up parts! The warranty IS still good after the parts are installed! Just don't booger anything up on dis- and re-assembly!
Karl
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If you replace those parts you will be doing 45mph! Then you can do the CDI mod and go a little faster.
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The CDI mod has me a bit intimidated. I don't know if I want to cut into the potted unit to sever a little bitty wire. Have you done this with success?
Karl
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You can buy an unrestricted CDI if you don't want to alter the one that you have now. They are not that expensive but vary in price depending on the source. Every so often there are basic derestriction kits for the Agility 50 on Ebay that run about $50 (U.S.). You get an unrestricted variator bushing, a larger carb jet and a performance air filter. From what I've read changing to a Bando race coil ($18 U.S.) can really improve the electronic performance of the scooter (better spark). I'm getting ready to make these changes to my scooter along with an Iridium spark plug for now to see what the scooter will do. If it get's up around 45mph then that would be nice. Then I hoping to install a big bore kit (85cc) and do an exhaust change sometime in the coming year but, that will run about $500 (U.S.) for parts so that will have to wait for now. Paul
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Appreciate the info, guys! I will post results after I do the work.
Karl
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I bought mine second hand and it never had the stuff with it. Any one know where i could pick a baggy up.
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I just ordered an unrestricted or race CDI(new Kymco part) from an Ebay dealer . It cost $67 total to ship with insurance ($64 without insurance/ from Taiwan). When it arrives and is installed, I will post the result. Paul
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phin63,
Do you know the part number?
I have original Kymco unrestricted CDI unit, which performs quite well, and I am wondering if there is something better.
People at Philippines mentioned a kind of "programmable CDI from Kymco", but I've never been able to find its part number.
BTW, CDI replacement is a sub-minute procedure and definitely makes sense if you don't mind speed restrictions in your country.
Yury
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I just ordered the CDI yesterday, and just today another Ebay dealer has them for about $55(U.S.) total which is $12 less than I paid. At this point I only know that it is a: Kymco 50 no rev limit CDI. It's most likely just like the one that you have. If there is a part number on it, or on the packaging I'll post it along with how well it performs. I have seen some programmable CDIs for sale. I haven't seen one for Kymco but they could be available. Paul
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The unrestricted CDI arrived today (Kymco TYC-D421). The scooter seemed to start easier. There was a noticeable increase of power in the motor. It was only 24 degrees Farenheit today so the test ride was not very long, but the overall performance did seem much better than it did before the change was made. Paul
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I have Kymco KY-D406 CDI unit, and the feeling is the same. With this unit I was able to speed engine up to 11,200 RPM. Would be interesting to find what is the difference between D406 and D412.
Yury
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Do I get the same results by slicing the stock CDI until I cut the tiny wire? I can ask since y'all HIJACKED the thread! Nyuk, nyuk!
Karl
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That question is on my mind, and I'm sure a few others too. I bought a new one thinking that if it has to go to the dealer for any type of work that the warranty wouldn't be voided because of an altered part (1 1/2 years left on warranty). One thing that is different is that the scooter now starts easily on the very first try. It's going to be around 50 degrees F today so I'll give it a better test ride. The restricted variator bushing is still in. I hope to get it changed in the next couple of days to find out how fast the scooter will go with these two new parts. Paul "When I nod my head,hit it." Moe Howard
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I took the scooter out for over an hour to test the unrestricted or "race" CDI (Kymco TYC-D421) yesterday. The performance of the scooter was improved in every aspect. The motor took on a more powerful feel and sound. At no time did it ever feel like the motor was turning at too high an RPM or that it was being strained in any way. This is simple to install. One screw holds the cover(center of floorboard),unplug the old one and plug in the new one,repace the cover. I highly recommend this part. ;D Paul
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Phin, I think you have a great idea there about the warranty issue. I am encouraged by your results as well. Mine has improved since I replaced the #80 withe the #82 jet.
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In all honesty it felt like a different scooter there was such an improvement. I'm really looking foward to ridding myself of the restricted bushing to see what the scooter will do. I'm waiting for a variator holding tool to come ( see new reply to 17mm pulley). Thirty seven years as a Dolphins fan in New England isn't easy. That is where the screen name phin is from. Paul
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How easy is it to change the sleeve? And mine does not like cold starting at all.....quite frustrating.
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try carburator ajestment and it will start wright away!
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Put the smooth sleeve in yesterday along with the 7 gram weights and what a difference! What an improvement! It will blast downhill over 40mph indicated and climbs better than before. Definitely worth the effort.
Karl
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Basic instructions for replacing the boss drive: 1-Remove bolts(8mm) from clutch cover 2-Remove 17mm nut from front pulley 3-Remove outer half of drive pulley(drive pulley face) 4-Remove drive belt from shaft 5-With left your hand, hold inner half of pulley(movable drive face),and with your right hand remove the boss face drive(variator spacer). Be sure that you hold the inner pulley half securely to insure that the roller weights remain in their proper position (they could fall out) 6-Insert new spacer 7-Install belt 8-Install Pulley half and 17mm nut 9-Install cover
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Many Thanks.....It's been sitting for 2 months and it will not start......Love the Bike but if it would only start. JH
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Put the smooth sleeve in yesterday along with the 7 gram weights and what a difference! What an improvement! It will blast downhill over 40mph indicated and climbs better than before. Definitely worth the effort.
Karl
waht is exactly that "sleeve" u talk about?
(i am completely noob) :-[
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http://4tskuteri.com/smf/index.php?topic=537.0
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http://4tskuteri.com/smf/index.php?topic=537.0
is that that little "ring" in the last pic?
u puto on the new boss and them add that piece?
waht does it do exactly?
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..didn get no bag in bed...
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Has any one put the 72cc carbrator performance kit in the 2009 Kymco agility 50cc In need for more speed. I put the unrestricted boss in. cut the cdi wire. No i go 43mph. Would like to get 50 mph is that possible ?
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When I bought my Agility it came with a parts bag,but they were the restricted parts..a # 80 jet a variator boss bushing. Mine was derestricted new,I pulled the cdi and it was cut before it got to my dealer then I bought a derestricted boss drive and it was the same one in it already. It does 37 to 42 mph on the flats but going uphill is a bit embarassing. PS cutting the cdi is the simplest thing to do with no worries of ruining anything
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Has any one put the 72cc carbrator performance kit in the 2009 Kymco agility 50cc In need for more speed. I put the unrestricted boss in. cut the cdi wire. No i go 43mph. Would like to get 50 mph is that possible ?
with the wind to your back and going down a small hill ya.lol no just kidding I get 50 out of mine on good days with no wind holding me back.
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Iv got a 2008 agility with smooth drive boss, race variator, 5.5g rollers, csi cut and going along on flats I'm hitting 50 downhills going 50+. I'm going to up-jet as vibrations are annoying :P
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Just wanted to come in and say the unrestricted cdi part number TYC-D421 works on the People 50 2t as well. It came on mine. On a 2007 People, the cdi is located behind the front cover.