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Title: zx50 position bulb
Post by: rigpa on October 11, 2011, 07:07:44 PM
Hello good people,

I have a zx50 '04 and my front left position bulb has gone out.  the right one still works.  these are the running lights not the hi beam which hasn't worked in a couple of years.  I'd like to replace the left position bulb.  the OEM part number says it is a 12v 5w bulb.  Is this something i can pick up at an auto parts store or do i need to special order through one of the scooter stores.  I know nothing about the electrical wiring on these things.  is there a book I can read or some place online to help me understand scooter wiring. Thanks loads!

Linda
Title: re: oko carb 'n bits
Post by: sidthesloth on October 11, 2011, 07:29:14 PM
I am not sure if they are a wedge type bulb but, either way you should be able to get them at an auto parts store. Might be worth replacing the headlight bulb while you are at it. I don't know what the part no. is for the stock headlight bulb but a BA20D super bright halogen bulb fits straight in and is a big improvement. Just make sure it is a 35/35 watt bulb.
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: rigpa on October 11, 2011, 07:37:45 PM
the time i had the headlight checked the bulb was working.  so i think it's something else.

do i remove the handlebar cover to access the running light bulb for replacing.  also are these single or dual filaments and what is the diff?
Title: re: oko carb 'n bits
Post by: sidthesloth on October 11, 2011, 07:54:42 PM
Yes, from memory you remove the cover and you have access to them. Not sure, but I think they would be single filament, a dual filanent bulb is for a light with two functions, like a tail/brake light.
How has your scooter been running?
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: rigpa on October 11, 2011, 07:59:33 PM
Hi Sid,

She's been running okay.  No probs with the piston, etc.  I changed the rollers over to 8.5 grams and this is making her way slower on the hills, which is a sad face.  I didn't think a gram diff would make that much difference.  The belt is relatively new as is the muffler.

Linda
Title: re: oko carb 'n bits
Post by: sidthesloth on October 11, 2011, 08:04:46 PM
While you have it open, check that the blue and white wires from the headlight to the plug are clean and plugged in tight. If yours has high/low beam switch, then the wires will go to the switch and one wire will go from the switch to the plug.
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: rigpa on October 11, 2011, 08:13:02 PM
thanks.  and if i need a new switch or relay how will i know?  I do have the hi/lo switch.  i don't understand all the wiring stuff and am finding it hard to find info for novices.
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: rigpa on October 12, 2011, 02:00:34 PM
so, after work last night, i had both running lights.  maybe loose wires or connection.
Title: Position bulb
Post by: sidthesloth on October 12, 2011, 02:32:35 PM
Could be a dirty connection, or a bulb on it's way out.
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: rigpa on October 12, 2011, 02:46:46 PM
do i clean that connection with sandpaper?
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: sidthesloth on October 12, 2011, 03:15:31 PM
Yes, sand paper, emery cloth or emery board. WD40 is also good as well.
On a side note, does your scoot have a high beam light on the dash? If so, could you post a pic of it please?
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: rigpa on October 12, 2011, 03:59:00 PM
I'll take a pic within an hour or so.
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: rigpa on October 12, 2011, 04:15:37 PM
are these wires crimped or soldered at the connector?  if it's loose wiring do i need a new connector?  if so, do you know what kind?  everything is stock.
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: sidthesloth on October 12, 2011, 05:25:27 PM
The wires ard crimped in the terminals, it would be those connectors that may be dirty.
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: rigpa on October 12, 2011, 05:36:53 PM
dash pic
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: sidthesloth on October 13, 2011, 11:12:43 AM
Thanks for the pic, I was wondering if they had a light on the dash for the high beam, but obviously not. 32,500 km, you certainly do some riding with it, cool.
With regard to your question about the relay, I don't think there is a relay for the headlight on these.
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: rigpa on October 13, 2011, 04:37:44 PM
i've been looking at some youtube vids for help on cleaning or repairing the electrical connections, but i don't know what kind of connectors these are called.  can you help me with the name.  is it best to replace the connectors, and by connectors do we mean the plastic white housing they slide into or the piece the wire is crimped onto?  merci beaucoup!
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: sidthesloth on October 13, 2011, 06:47:13 PM
Unless the plastic is damaged you won't need to replace it. The metal terminal can be removed from the plastic plug by releasing the small tab. If you do this, only do one at a time so you can ensure they go back in the correct position. The best way might be to use a precision screwdriver to give the terminals a scrape while still in the plug, then a small spray with wd40 or similar. You can also buy electrical contact cleaner in an aerosl can.
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: rigpa on October 14, 2011, 04:39:50 PM
well now she's in the shop for lighting and other issues.  will let you know what they determine.
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: thebatman on October 17, 2011, 02:00:28 AM
well now she's in the shop for lighting and other issues.  will let you know what they determine.


Oh no, no a shop?!?! I hope all is turning out well
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: rigpa on October 19, 2011, 09:32:13 PM
Got the scooter back last night.  My spark plug wire was compromised and my spark plug was all rusted.  My cdi was replaced bcause when i broke down, the other one was lodged between the back tire and the engine compartment and the rubber had worn off exposing circuitry.  The lights are fixed!  I noticed while in the shop that they sell led lights that you can adhere (yeah right) to the scoot and either wire directly to the battery or press an on off switch.  anyone have any experience with these.  doesn't seem like they'd adhere very well and i'm not sure where the wiring would go.
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: thebatman on October 20, 2011, 12:34:17 AM
That would depend on the lights...
I happen to have some "oval" shaped led(has 6 tiny "eyes" total on each light). They come in colors? ie; red,blue,green,white. They adhere pretty good. ;)
BUT i can speak from experiance with the blue lights on my ag. I got a ticket!! shoulda been a warning to me BUUUUUUT!! ::) Of course i still run my lights. I have red/green led's throughout my zx.. :D ::)
I wired mine into the lights.
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: rigpa on October 20, 2011, 06:43:51 PM
I saw those oval shaped lights.  they also have some long rectangular ones that come in red and blue.  i wish i knew more about wiring, i'd put those babies on for more visibility.  on my dash on the left, there's an unused switch place that i think i read where the europeans use it for extra lighting.  did you put your switch for your leds in there?
Title: Re: zx50 position bulb
Post by: thebatman on October 21, 2011, 12:34:44 AM
The spot on the left that you mentioned i do believe is the hi/low beam switch..
Na, i actually placed a toggle switch on the leg shield near the ignition switch for my lights.Even the dam toggle has a red led. :D ::)(i have meant to install more but haven't yet. ::))