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General => Technical | How To => Topic started by: kymcobob on October 02, 2011, 07:04:09 PM
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any mod ideas for my vitality ????
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Hi Bob Any mod ideas?...just one...don't. I bought my Agility 50 a year and a half ago and all I was concerned about was going a little faster. It already had smooth drive boss and cut CDI ( those are the only 2 I agree with ) I spent a lot of time and money to get a little more speed but nothing really made any difference. I wish I wouldn't have stressed so much and enjoyed what I had instead of constantly trying to gain an unreachable speed. 3 months ago I got my motorcycle license but I learned to enjoy my Agility 50 so I haven't bought a bigger scoot yet...and maybe I won't. I average 35-40 MPH and for what I need my scoot for it's just right. If you feel you need more speed then I suggest a bigger scoot...you will only aggravate yourself otherwise for maybe 2 more MPH. Please consider this advice and I'm sure you'll do whats best for you. Dale
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I'm with Dale. Bought two Agility 50's, a 06 and a 09. And my granddaughters and me have used them for 18 and 20 mos. Then bought a Grandvista 250 when I wanted more power and a road bike but, heck. Still use one of the smaller scooters more. Best to buy another bike when you want more speed. Spend the money and time on another scooter. For me around my small town 35 to 40 does everything I need. Plus so much lighter and easier to ride.
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i have a 08 agility 50 if your looking for a big gane in speed do what i did 150 swap. if your up for the challange that is its alot of work but very worth it i drive mine everywhere 65 is my top speed i have many mods to the new engine 180 bbk racing cdi exhaust jetted the carb uni filter racing cam and cylinder head sounds nice but not much different than the 150
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i couldn't agree with dale and poorboy enough...i will take a risk here at the risk of offending some of our 50cc brethren....i know the 50s are fun and in many places fit a niche to avoid having to get a real motorcycle license....but i got to tell you i am simply amazed at the amount of chatter and number of postings initiated (here and on other boards i participate in)....attempting to mod and especially de-restrict,,,,,these scooters....
people will actually spend hundreds of dollars in some cases and a lot of time just to pick up a few more miles per hour....or to eek out another 2-4 miles per gallon...i just don't get it......simply put if the scooter is not fast enough for you save up your money and buy something bigger!
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I guess that depends on whether you want to go faster or make what you have go faster. There is a fun side to it too.
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i have really enjoyed modding my scoot even when it was a 50 cc but if you want real gains the 150 swap is the best having all that power on such a little scoot is so much fun especally the wheelies lol
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There are a lot of 125cc-150cc scoots that don't weigh much more than a 50cc. I occasionally see Agility 125's being sold with low kms/miles for under $1,000. It would probably be cheaper to sell your 50 and buy a used 125 than to mod the 50, and you'll end up with a faster AND more reliable scoot.
If you're trying to avoid having to get a motorcycle endorsement, then you shouldn't be going faster anyway. Learn the material, get your permit, and take the MSF Basic Rider's course. It'll make you a better and safer rider, thus making it more likely you'll be around to enjoy your faster scooter for years to come.
Otherwise, the best way to go fast on a 50 is a 2 stroke model that has been derestricted, has a set of Dr. Pulley weights, and a tuned pipe. Again -- this will all cost you more in the long run than a 125 or 150 stock.
Just my humble opinion.
Good luck, and RIDE SAFE!
Jay
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JAS67 IS RIGHT. Particularly the part about the MSF Basic Rider's course. You learn, I feel safer. I know we all feel that we are the best riders in the world. But even the best can get safer.
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What about cylinder kits? Aren't they a good upgrade without damaging the engine?
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Please put a cylinder kit on your new kymco , even though kymco has been engineering scooters since 1970 they still havent't figured out how to match engines , brakes , suspensions etc. to build a reliable balanced and safe scooter . Soooo all after market parts are vastly superior and will perform better and last longer than the stock parts . Good luck . By the way I am being facetious lol .
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Nope, kymco scooters are the best, there are none better. all these brand name ones wre just wannabe's....
Oh my, your facetiousness is infectuous. ;)
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Sorry I didn't mean to be kymco exclusive . Im sure a cheap ebay cylinder kit would improve the performance and reliability of any brand of scooter or motorcycle . Thanks .
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...so it is utterly pointless paying 15x normal price for custom parts? ;D ;D
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I just picked up a Vitality, from my step kid, for $100 so I too am interested in some simple mods to up the speed. I'll be driving it 25 miles to work this summer. Yes I do know I'm crazy, but being a firefighter for 18 years...... well it's a prerequisite. So anything to make the trip a little faster is appreciated.
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Ta Da! I'm gonna put my new standard answer... It's a cut paste deal. BUT Before that For ME: The reasons I tune are not to "gain 2-3mph" I tune because as Juice pointed out Kymco makes cookie cutter parts. MILLIONS of them. If you simply SPEC or BLUEPRINT an engine you will gain performance. The reason is tolerances. Say a cyl is .001 spec clearance... add 0005 variance, put in a piston with the same spec, and you are now at .002 or OUT of spec. by 001. JUST ONE example, and there is NO denying, or getting around it. I tune because I like the things I own to be the best it can be or I don't need it. So here is my cookie cutter answer...
Close your eyes, hold your breath, and jump in head first! Welcome to OUR world!
A few things to consider... How much do you like your scoot? Fits well, rides well, like the style? If yes to all... Is it just under powered for your needs? Tuning a BBK WILL take ALL your free time for several weeks. First finding the parts that will work, then finding the best price. Next comes learning all the "tricks" to preparing the raw parts for install. Now it's together... Getting the carb right for the new kit. That's done so you now have to tune the cvt to work with the carb. and BBK. If you are LUCKY that will be the end of it. BUT since you have learned Sooooo much about your scoot you may want to add a performance pipe. RE DO the carb to work w/ the pipe. RE DO the cvt to work w/ the new carb settings, and the pipe. Well yuo might as well do the air box now to really feel the new stuff. RE DO THE RE DO'S. Well now it runs better than any other scoot of it's type. Just noticed the OEM tires don't really hold that well... New set. Hmmm that rear shock feels "springy"... Where do you get those brighter headlights? Whats the best Ignition coil to use? Where the F' did my wife go?
If you have the time, and like tuning I say GO FOR IT!
You all will see this post again cause I'm copying it!
We can all help if you decide tuning is for you. Just taking the engine apart, and replacing out of spec OEM parts will give you a 4-5 mile boost if you know how to do it.
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Wives don't tune up very well so in keeping with my philosophy, I am three times divorced, and still riding 50cc scoots. I Know Right! Go Figure...
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TO GO A LITTLE FASTER i GOT A 300I DOWNTOWN IT IS A ALL AROUND FUN SCOOTER & YOU DONT HAVE TO MOD IT TO GO FAST 80 TO 90 MPH,. WHAT A BLAST CANT WAIT FOR THE SNOW TO MELT,. RIDE SAFE EVERY ONE
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I own a super 8 2t kymco. I would gladly buy a bigger scooter but they dont make a 150cc 2t ecept for vespa or the next cloest thing the
just about any 4 stroke with a bigbore kit. I ordered a 70cc malossi bigbore kit for it and I think one its installed and tuned it will beat most carborated 125's and 150's. I also enjoy making my scooter look, sound and ride bad ass. I top out at about 45mph with the stock top endProper;y tuned I think it could hit 60mph
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TO GO A LITTLE FASTER i GOT A 300I DOWNTOWN IT IS A ALL AROUND FUN SCOOTER & YOU DONT HAVE TO MOD IT TO GO FAST 80 TO 90 MPH,. WHAT A BLAST CANT WAIT FOR THE SNOW TO MELT,. RIDE SAFE EVERY ONE
..that's it!!!
;D