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Title: ERmax High Protection windscreen
Post by: scootinChris on September 29, 2011, 02:35:15 AM
Started in the UK thread, I believe this product deserves it's own thread!
http://www.same-same.fr/windshield-hight-protect-10cm-dink-street-downtown-20092011-p-683.html (http://www.same-same.fr/windshield-hight-protect-10cm-dink-street-downtown-20092011-p-683.html)

It's not as tall as the Givi screen and therefore might have better forward vision.
Though not as wide as the Givi and will have less hand protection.
(Hand protection is important to me, since my hands go numb easily due to meds I use.)

Anyone has this screen installed and is willing  to share his experience?
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: TANWare on September 29, 2011, 04:42:43 AM
Also there is one with hand protection but not as much as the givi.............

http://www.silverstonemotor.com/kymco-dink-street-125-300-2009-2010-hp-10-windscreen-with-hand-protection,us,4,ERM-PB10PM-DinkSt-125-300-0910.cfm (http://www.silverstonemotor.com/kymco-dink-street-125-300-2009-2010-hp-10-windscreen-with-hand-protection,us,4,ERM-PB10PM-DinkSt-125-300-0910.cfm)
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: juanpauk on September 29, 2011, 08:26:58 AM
For hand protection I use the Acerbis hand guards, so far I haven't notice any difference but somehow we are hitting 27C/80F degrees here in London(UK), will have to wait until the winter kicks in to be able to test them, however when raining they definitely help to keep my gloves dry longer.

They are really easy to install and give the scooter a nice look, especially during the night with the leds on.

(http://www.mx1west.co.uk/acatalog/acerbis-flash-scooter-handguards-black-small.jpg)

link: http://www.mx1west.co.uk/acatalog/Acerbis_Flash_Scooter_Handguard.html (http://www.mx1west.co.uk/acatalog/Acerbis_Flash_Scooter_Handguard.html)
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: frankiej1949 on September 30, 2011, 02:20:45 PM
Hi Jaun
Have you fitted these to your Downtown 300i? How do they fit onto the grips?
Frank
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: juanpauk on September 30, 2011, 03:15:44 PM
Hi Frank,

Yes I  have, you install them on top of the bar ends if it makes sense, so nothing comes off, for the right hand grip you need a longer screw a M8 7cm long, for the left one you can re-use the screw, you have to take your time positioning them to make sure that they cut propeprly the air and also that it does not clash with the windscreen. as per link http://www.westfieldfasteners.co.uk/A2_ScrewBolt_SHBtn_M8.html (http://www.westfieldfasteners.co.uk/A2_ScrewBolt_SHBtn_M8.html)

I will try to take a picture in a while so you get a better idea of how they look on the bike.
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: TANWare on October 01, 2011, 04:35:23 AM
personally I'd rather have the wind catch against the wind screen not the handle bars. I've never tried these out but where severe cross winds come to play and I can feel them hit me hard I would suspect they also would play with the hand grips with something like this mounted to them. Maybe I'm wrong and there is no issue but it would be a mental thing for me...............
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: racewalker on October 01, 2011, 11:38:09 AM
I agree and as far as extra lights by your hands, I have rewired the turn signal leds to be on all the time. No batteries required. I had purchased a couple of units to do this but burned out two sets so decided to do my own. 2 automotive relays using the normally closed contacts to feed 12 volt to the leds and the turn signal feed wire to the coil of the relay. This switches leds on and off for signals. Makes better visibility at night. Seems I am in the dark all the time now. :)
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: full of days on October 01, 2011, 04:07:12 PM
I too would like to see some pics or even a vid of the install on the bars. 

racewalker, could you post a wiring how-to for other members?  i'm wanting to install these on my new GT300i.
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: scootinChris on October 02, 2011, 03:25:43 AM
Also there is one with hand protection but not as much as the givi.............
I'm a bit confused from that site.
With or without hand protection is the same price.
and as per the www.ermax.fr (http://www.ermax.fr) site, there is no hand protection screen... ???
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: TANWare on October 02, 2011, 03:34:03 AM
I'm a bit confused from that site.
With or without hand protection is the same price.
and as per the www.ermax.fr (http://www.ermax.fr) site, there is no hand protection screen... ???

As per the pic's there is a bend where the hands are to direct more air outwards. t doesn't seem to also protrude out further like the Givi. So while the bend is there pushing air out it does not do as well. So far with good gloves I have not had an issu with the stock wind screen.

I would like a bit more height though. That 10cm or apr 4" would do me just about right I think. Then again maybe the Givi isn't as large as it looks. The taller screen should also reduce wind noise too.
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: scootinChris on October 02, 2011, 04:01:04 AM
For hand protection I use the Acerbis hand guards

Thanks juanpauk,
www.acerbis.com (http://shops.hookit.com/acerbis/ViewProduct/FlashScooterHandguard/3912.aspx?csp=3357)
Now if the orange would match, it would be perfect :)

@racewalker,
Yes I'm also interested how you wired the LEDs.
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: scootinChris on October 02, 2011, 04:08:12 AM
2 automotive relays using the normally closed contacts to feed 12 volt to the leds and the turn signal feed wire to the coil of the relay. This switches leds on and off for signals.
Ok, reread your post and I get it now. Where did you mount the relays  ???
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: scootinChris on October 02, 2011, 04:34:34 AM
Thanks TANWare,
Sometimes you need to see it side by side :D
As per the pic's there is a bend where the hands are to direc more air outwards.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6179/6202162055_504ee274a8.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kiekkris/6202162055/)
Ermax HP  with hand protection

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6167/6202161979_9776f3a19d.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kiekkris/6202161979/)
Ermax HP
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: racewalker on October 02, 2011, 02:11:27 PM
I too would like to see some pics or even a vid of the install on the bars. 

racewalker, could you post a wiring how-to for other members?  i'm wanting to install these on my new GT300i.
Which wiring, the HID's or the mirror leds or both?
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: fshfindr on October 02, 2011, 08:54:29 PM
For hand protection I use the Acerbis hand guards, so far I haven't notice any difference but somehow we are hitting 27C/80F degrees here in London(UK), will have to wait until the winter kicks in to be able to test them, however when raining they definitely help to keep my gloves dry longer.

They are really easy to install and give the scooter a nice look, especially during the night with the leds on.

(http://www.mx1west.co.uk/acatalog/acerbis-flash-scooter-handguards-black-small.jpg)

link: http://www.mx1west.co.uk/acatalog/Acerbis_Flash_Scooter_Handguard.html (http://www.mx1west.co.uk/acatalog/Acerbis_Flash_Scooter_Handguard.html)
Are these really $95.00 (Ninty five us dollars)?  That seems awfully expensive.
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: JustWantToRide on October 03, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
Are these really $95.00 (Ninty five us dollars)?  That seems awfully expensive.

$59.99 at Chaparral-racing.com...

http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Product/acerbis-flash-handguards/257-217908-0001.aspx (http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Product/acerbis-flash-handguards/257-217908-0001.aspx)
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: juanpauk on October 04, 2011, 09:10:59 AM
Sorry for the delay, was away on a trip for the weekend with the Mrs on the Dowtown from London to Calais, first time on the Eurotunnel for me.

Here is a video of how to mount the Acerbis handguards on a MP3, only difference is that you need to keep the bar end in position, otherwise it will clash with the windshield.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/qeJwPEL_oCk (http://www.youtube.com/embed/qeJwPEL_oCk)

Also enclosing a picture of how it looks on my scooter, is a bit dak as I took it on the eurotunnel.
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: TANWare on October 04, 2011, 07:44:07 PM
my concern would be hitting the guard. I know alot of others use these with no issue but that would always be in the back of my head. Especially when weraing heavy gloves....................
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: scootinChris on October 07, 2011, 12:45:21 AM
Which wiring, the HID's or the mirror leds or both?

Hi racewalker,

In this thread you mentionned about the LEDs.
I figured out how you did the wiring. I'm just corious where you mounted the relays?
If you have picks of the HID wiring, then please put them in the HID thread...
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: racewalker on October 07, 2011, 01:00:16 AM
Hi racewalker,

In this thread you mentionned about the LEDs.
I figured out how you did the wiring. I'm just corious where you mounted the relays?
If you have picks of the HID wiring, then please put them in the HID thread...
Take the cover off the handle bars, there is lots of room. I just wire tied them on. One screw in each end of the cover and it just snaps appart.
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: fshfindr on October 07, 2011, 01:12:30 PM
$59.99 at Chaparral-racing.com...

http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Product/acerbis-flash-handguards/257-217908-0001.aspx (http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Product/acerbis-flash-handguards/257-217908-0001.aspx)
Thanks, I'll get them now.
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: scootinChris on October 12, 2011, 09:42:32 PM
Take the cover off the handle bars, there is lots of room.
Where do you get the +12V from?
Title: Re: ERmax High Protetion windscreen
Post by: racewalker on October 14, 2011, 01:28:00 AM
Where do you get the +12V from?
I hooked into the wire for the charger plug in the glove box. Just change the fuse. It is .8 amp I have 4 amp on mine now well below what the wire will take.
Title: Re: ERmax High Protection windscreen
Post by: scootinChris on October 15, 2011, 11:30:47 PM
I hooked into the wire for the charger plug in the glove box. Just change the fuse. It is .8 amp I have 4 amp on mine now well below what the wire will take.
Hmm that explains why my plug is dead :(
Tried to plug in tire pump and that did not work...  :-\
Guess I have to open the tuperware to get to that fuse. ???
Title: Re: ERmax High Protection windscreen
Post by: racewalker on October 16, 2011, 03:16:53 PM
Very busy at work, just saw your message. The fuse is just by the plug, small round fuse.
Title: Re: Re: ERmax High Protection windscreen
Post by: full of days on November 15, 2011, 12:58:04 AM
I got 2 auto relays & am unsure how to wire the handguards for the turnsignals.  How do i take the AAA battery terminals & wire it to run off the scooter battery?