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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: streido on September 11, 2011, 12:59:45 AM
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Whats you average top speed on your de-restricted A50?
Trying to find what the average speed everyone gets is. Im not talking about your best ever speed down the steepest hill you could find, just your average top speed that you achieve on most days, under normal conditions. Seems some folk cannot get over 42mph while some get 45+ mph all day long, be interesting to see what the poll shows up.
Only 50cc please, no big bore kits.
PLEASE BE 100% HONEST, this is important. If you lie it will just f**k up the result and we wont know anything except that we are all a bunch of lying bast*rds, and im talking about the speed shown on your A50's speedo gauge, not gps speed.
If you want to add what set up you run then do that to after you vote in the reply bit.
REMEMBER,PLEASE BE HONEST HERE GUYS, THERE IS NO POINT IN LYING,WE ALL KNOW YOU CANT EVER GET 80MPH OUT OF AN A50 UNLESS YOU TIED IT TO A ROCKET OR THROW IT OFF A CLIFF ;D THE POLL IN ANON ANYWAY SO WE WONT KNOW WHO YOU ARE IF YOU POST A SLOW SPEED.
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Here is my set-up at present,
Jan 2008 registered, 16,000km on the clock (de-restricted at 11,000km when i'd had it a month)
Usual derestrict (boss,jet,cdi cut)
Race variator
5.5g rollers
Nakura 729x18x30 belt
1000rpm torque spring
1500rpm fly springs
Stock plug
Stock airbox
Stock exhaust
Bridgestone ML50 Mola tyres
45-47mph most days on the flats, 45mph everyday unless its windy. 47-49mph down good hills (have hit 50-51mph on 7.5g rollers down good hills but was a nightmare getting back up the other side ;D ).
26-27mph up pretty steep hills, 30mph up med-steep hills, 40mph up low hills (unless from a standing start).
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I got my scoot balnced out real good now . I do beteen 42 to 47 on a good day with no wind. and can hold a good steady speed ounce its over 35 to 40. cdi cut 6 gram rollers bigger jet fresh new tires with a little extra air. everything mostly stock. ( love theam hills the best doing a easy 50) lol
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Mine is just de-restricted BOSS and Jet, CDi is unristricted on MY10+
Not Maxed out yet with only having 101Km on the clock and whilst not tootling it not going full beans either. But it is still pulling passed 40mph on the Speedo so manufactures de-restricted quote of 42mph seems feasible maybe 44mph.
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I posted at 42-44 mph. Sometimes a little more. Sometimes a little less.
Usual derestrict (boss,jet,cdi cut)
Polini Race variator
6.0 g Dr Pulley Sliders
Stock Bando 729x18x30 belt
1000rpm torque spring
Stock plug
Stock airbox
Stock exhaust
Stock Tires
Royal Purple 10w40 Max Cycle fully synthetic motor oil
I believe the longer recommended Polini belt would help. At last check I was also getting 145 mpg. also, which is the highest I've ever heard of on an AG50.
To be honest I would rather know everybodys 0 - 40 mph times. It seems like a far more valuable gage of performance than any other.
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It maybe difficult Encya to hold my phone between my knees and press the stopwatch app to measure my time while riding ;D
If it was me i would try the longer pollini belt, the multivar is meant to be slightly larger diameter so a longer belt is better, i guess the pollini is the same? Doesnt cst much for a belt anyway to try?
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Mine is derestricted from dealer. So as far as I know cut CDI, Jet change, and washer removed from boss.
NO VARIATOR CHANGE.
On a flat surface with little to no wind affecting me
Based on Speedo as you say I average around 45 to 47 MPH.
But based on actual GPS speed I am averaging around38 to 41 MPH.
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It maybe difficult Encya to hold my phone between my knees and press the stopwatch app to measure my time while riding ;D
LOL! Yeah I know that was part of my reason for posting the 0-40 mph times thought, was to get different ideas on a good way to do it.
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You have 2 hands, one on thd throttle, one holding your timing device. You're on a 50cc scoot, not a rocket sled.:D
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You obviously never driven on Scottish roads sid :D we need 2 hands to avoid the potholes ;D
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You have 2 hands, one on thd throttle, one holding your timing device. You're on a 50cc scoot, not a rocket sled.:D
Till the old bill gives you a £60 fine and 3 points on your licence >:( :-*
Someone needs to do a Scooter App like iMap my ride but for scooters that will also sense and calculate 0-40 times ;D
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Till the old bill gives you a £60 fine and 3 points on your licence >:( :-*
Someone needs to do a Scooter App like iMap my ride but for scooters that will also sense and calculate 0-40 times ;D
what am I reading this right you got a fine and points on your licence what were doing going on your scoot. what did you a do a 40 in a 20
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what am I reading this right you got a fine and points on your licence what were doing going on your scoot. what did you a do a 40 in a 20
Nope nothing like that......even worse I am a Cop :'(
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Please disregard anything i ever said ever on this forum officer Jezyg ;)
I never speed, my A50 is not derestricted and i always obey traffic laws ::)
Oh, and i dont live in Scotland either, im from somewhere far, far away.
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Please disregard anything i ever said ever on this forum officer Jezyg ;)
I never speed, my A50 is not derestricted and i always obey traffic laws ::)
Oh, and i dont live in Scotland either, im from somewhere far, far away.
I know you don't :) I have no power of arrest or anything in Scotland only England and Wales!!!
Without derestriction the A50 would not accelerate as fast or keep up with traffic safely TBH
I have done my CBT and intend to do my 125 licence next year 50cc is good and my A50 great but I feel a 125 would be safer next time round. A50 is a good way to start and will do a good two years easily before my CBT runs out.
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Im the same, prob do my cbt nxt yr. I can drive a 50cc on my car license since i passed pre 2003. It just isnt safe tootling about at 25-28mph, much safer being able to keep up with traffic.
What annoys me is i can ride a 50 thr rest of my life, no cbt, no test but as soon as i go for a bigger bike, even a 125, i need t sit a bloody cbt? Ive been drivng for near 20 yrs, riding on and off for yrs too. The thougjt of L Plates and tests puts me off a bit,he thought of not slowing down going up hills kijda makes up for it a bit tho ;D
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Im the same, prob do my cbt nxt yr. I can drive a 50cc on my car license since i passed pre 2003. It just isnt safe tootling about at 25-28mph, much safer being able to keep up with traffic.
What annoys me is i can ride a 50 thr rest of my life, no cbt, no test but as soon as i go for a bigger bike, even a 125, i need t sit a bloody cbt? Ive been drivng for near 20 yrs, riding on and off for yrs too. The thougjt of L Plates and tests puts me off a bit,he thought of not slowing down going up hills kijda makes up for it a bit tho ;D
I did not need to do my CBT with moped grandfather rights but never ridden before other than a pushbike so thought it made sense.
But agree totally, luckily no big hills on my way to work more just accelerating and keeping up with traffic on 30mph roads. With 136km on the clock I know the engine still has to bed in but has loosened up greatly compared to the day I drove it home and got dusted by the wife in the car ::)
Personally 40mph would be a safer top speed with fuel injection slowly coming along to meet Euro 3 regs and soon Euro 4 will yield more power and thus acceleration will help. Two years the Agility should have EFi for American and Euro markets I would guess.
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I was wondering if kymco will ever do anything fuel injected...
Seems like it would make it hard to keep them so well priced though doesn't it? Production costs would go up greatly.
And honestly a companies first year making an engine with fuel injection makes me nervous about being the guinea pig, although Kymco is a pretty good company.
And after all that, they've never made anything fuel injected have they? Lol
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Me my self I dont care for fuel injected I have a older gy6 that was but I took it off and run the line straight to the carb runs alot better like that.
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Also nice to have the freedom of tinkering more with a carb too.
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got that right I beleave thats one thing kymco did right.
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Fuel injection is the way forward and instead of a Carb you have an ECU to play with. A simple map on an N/A petrol car can yield 10% more power and torque. A turbo petrol like mine can can go from 208Bhp to 275Bhp if I ever decide to have it remapped. The electronics are the cheap part it's the injectors themselves that tend to cost £££/$$$$. The thing with a Carb is it is more robust and can withstand lower quality fuel and poorer maintenance that occurs in some of the countries it supplies.
Don't think we will ever see the latest high pressure direct injection systems in quite a few petrol cars with the injectors alone costing about 1K. Nor a turbo unless you buy a bolt on kit from Japan :)
Downside as Scooters get more complex there will be less and less DIY maintenance that can be done so I would like to see Carb and injection versions still being sold side by side as Kymco do with some 2T and 4T models.
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I think you will find that Kymco do make fuel i8njected scooters, just the larger ones, Downtown and Xciting.
Fuel injection is the better way, I have had no issues with my fuel injected cars or bike, but with carbs
have had problems. basically, fuel injection aside from being improvede economy/power, is also low maintenance.
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I think a Fuel injected may be a benefit for somethings. They would need to add an o2 sensor to read a/f ratios to make the electronics compensate. But by doing so, that means adding an upgrade filter and removing the air box and adding an exhuast would be easier. since the computer would compensate for the a/f ratio (giving that the flow rate of the injector can handle more, which normally they can to a point) it would be less guess and trial and error to get the stuff to work together while making sure you are not running lean.
Then the possibility of a small turbo charger to help with acceleration maybe be possible.
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...average speed...45 indicated..
..top speed downhill...needle was over the white 10ths digits of the odometer...
;D
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He's alive !!!! Great to hear from you wordslinger . Where ya been ?
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Hey, the wanderer has returned. Welcome back wordslinger.
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I thought the mighty Wordslinger had gone AWOL? Good to see the master return. We are not worthy ;D