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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Agility 125 => Topic started by: docjones on August 11, 2011, 01:03:48 AM
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I've got 13000 kilometers (8077 miles) with only one problem. My CDI died at around 6500 kilometers. Mines an 09 with the original belt and battery. Starts with the first push of the button unless it is really cold, say under 35 fairinheight. (i know spelling) I always change my oil every 1500 kilometers with full synthtic.
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26K km.
- steering stem tends to get unscrewed every 5.000 kms
- dead turn on switch replaced under warranty
- burnt heated handgrips, twice, but this is aftermarket equipment. :)
Otherwise, too good to be true, seems to be solid (so far).
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15 500 km,
voltage regulator at 15000
spark cap at 12000
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7555km, Just a cracked side panel...not due to a drop and not cover by warranty. 2008 model.
(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w399/tadjesionowski/P5290181.jpg)
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18.000km, starter engine failed, that's it.
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17,500 no issues not even a belt yet. i am planning to replace the belt.
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19000 km. Bad pulsar coil, replaced by me, manually soldering.
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26K km.
- steering stem tends to get unscrewed every 5.000 kms
- dead turn on switch replaced under warranty
- burnt heated handgrips, twice, but this is aftermarket equipment. :)
Otherwise, too good to be true, seems to be solid (so far).
29K km.
- dead speedo cable (bought yesterday a new one on German ebay shop for 12 EUR with shipping).
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43,000 miles on an '05 ZX. Some of the body is original, Oh, and the aluminum wheels. The rear brake cable too. It had 13,000 on the clock when I got it. Forgot the frame, and seat. They are original.
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43,000 miles on an '05 ZX. Some of the body is original, Oh, and the aluminum wheels. The rear brake cable too. It had 13,000 on the clock when I got it. Forgot the frame, and seat. They are original.
Do you have any experience, what is expected life span of a 125 4stroke engine (Kymco's), that is properly maintained, driven on longer distances, oil changed every 2-3.000 kms?
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Do you have any experience, what is expected life span of a 125 4stroke engine (Kymco's), that is properly maintained, driven on longer distances, oil changed every 2-3.000 kms?
I've seen 40kkm+, I wouldn't expect any problems before 50k, since most 50cc 2 strokes
will hit 30kkm before anything goes wrong. The 125s are usually not ridden WOT all the time
so that should help too.
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I've seen 40kkm+, I wouldn't expect any problems before 50k, since most 50cc 2 strokes
will hit 30kkm before anything goes wrong. The 125s are usually not ridden WOT all the time
so that should help too.
The problem is that most scoots are destroyed/scrapped long before that, so there is not enough "forum collective experience" to statistically determine longevity of scoots...
Hence my question. ;D
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"The 125s are usually not ridden WOT all the time
so that should help too."
That's the KEY right there.
Like Axy said too: scoots are usually scraped long before being "worn out". In the broadest sense a scoot can last forever (replacing parts). In a constant running engine? It seems too subjective too answer.
There are thousands of scoots in India/Vietnam that have been running for decades with little or no OEM parts. So an educated guess? 2,500 hrs. before major component failure in a NEW constant running (scooter) engine. (Constant load/ cruise rpm)
I am basing that on wear dynamics of the components, and the protection provided by modern synthetic oils.
I am also referring to the top 5 scooter brands, NOT the cheap knock off engines.
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The problem is that most scoots are destroyed/scrapped long before that, so there is not enough "forum collective experience" to statistically determine longevity of scoots...
Hence my question. ;D
Most of high-mileage stuff that I've seen was back in 2004-2005 when I worked at
a local bike shop, and that's about the average I've seen and heard about.
I think any 125cc should do at least 30kkm even with poor maintainance.
I've seen an Agility 50cc 4 stroke go 17.000km without a single oil change
or fill-up, used by a postman, idling all day long. It probably just ran out of oil.
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2,500 hrs. before major component failure in a NEW constant running (scooter) engine. (Constant load/ cruise rpm)
This is why usually for maritime purposes, service intervals are scheduled in hours...
I would say that AVERAGE speed of city-dwelling scooter regardless of displacement is around 35-40 km/h max.
This would roughly translate to 87.500-100.000 kms which is A LOT, but I know that 500-600cc thumpers can do 100K without problems, so probably 125cc can too.
We have a saying that I cannot translate to English, it would roughly mean "From your mouth to God's ears".
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Well, I thought this one was specifically asking for the mileage on Agility 125s out there. If so, I'll go off-topic and say I'm about to cross the 30 megameter mark on my People 250.
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This would roughly translate to 87.500-100.000 kms which is A LOT, but I know that 500-600cc thumpers can do 100K without problems
Non-aprilia ones at least.
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"Well, I thought this one was specifically asking for the mileage on Agility 125s out there."
Sorry, I didn't catch that...
In the broader sense I think all the top 4t scooter engines are equally well built, and the mileage or operating hrs. should be very close. I tend to refer to hours, as miles can be subjective.
For people chasing their goats around in the third world one Km of their rocky mountainside is = too four hundred miles of Rodeo Drive!
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OK, I'll jump in with my wife's 2007 Agility 125...31,3XX kms. Are we adjusting for 15% speedo error? Regular maintenance, second set of rollers, second belt, stock air filter, second rear tire. Needs rollers again. The muffler guard/cap thingy fell off the first week, I blew a fuse the first month. The clock has never worked properly. Perfect!
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Thanks Mc
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28.800 kms on speedo + approx 1000 km after the speedo cable snapped.
Replacement just came in by snail mail from Germany last week and today I have replaced it. (12 EUR with shippiing).
While it was disassembled, I have changed oil in front brake.
It is interesting that it still has factory brake pads (and disc pads) and drives like a champ! :)
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28.800 kms on speedo + approx 1000 km after the speedo cable snapped.
Replacement just came in by snail mail from Germany last week and today I have replaced it. (12 EUR with shippiing).
While it was disassembled, I have changed oil in front brake.
It is interesting that it still has factory brake pads (and disc pads) and drives like a champ! :)
Mine is at around 21kkm if I'm correct, stopped riding it last month, it's in a shop looking for a new
owner, but same story, not only that it's still on original pads, they're just half worn!
And people ask why Kymco original parts are that expensive.
Belts tend to outlast hi-end replacement stuff like malossi kevlar stuff.
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Mine is at around 21kkm if I'm correct, stopped riding it last month, it's in a shop looking for a new
owner, but same story, not only that it's still on original pads, they're just half worn!
One strange thing: pads on my P250S were completely shredded, to the metal, after 13.500 kms.
OTOH, I remember replacing them on my old Beverly after 22.000 kms and they were still good.
Beverly has one front disc, P250S two.
I was thinking pads would last a least 25.000 kms on People.
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One strange thing: pads on my P250S were completely shredded, to the metal, after 13.500 kms.
OTOH, I remember replacing them on my old Beverly after 22.000 kms and they were still good.
Beverly has one front disc, P250S two.
I was thinking pads would last a least 25.000 kms on People.
Yeah, that is a bit strange, but you jumped on that one just after the ZR7 and probably rode
like a complete idiot. I'm not saying that you don't do that now, don't get me wrong!
;)
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Yeah, that is a bit strange, but you jumped on that one just after the ZR7 and probably rode
like a complete idiot. I'm not saying that you don't do that now, don't get me wrong!
;)
Nope. Sold ZR mid-2005, bought People in Jan 2009.
Inbetween drove Beverly.
I drive People in a very docile manner, especially not in a way that would explain this premature wear.
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Nope. Sold ZR mid-2005, bought People in Jan 2009.
Inbetween drove Beverly.
I drive People in a very docile manner, especially not in a way that would explain this premature wear.
Oh yeah, I forgot the BV200 in between..
How's the second set doing then?
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Oh yeah, I forgot the BV200 in between..
How's the second set doing then?
Bought them on ebay.de. Installed @13.800 km. 19.200 km now... too early to tell.
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28.800 kms on speedo + approx 1000 km after the speedo cable snapped.
Replacement just came in by snail mail from Germany last week and today I have replaced it. (12 EUR with shippiing).
While it was disassembled, I have changed oil in front brake.
It is interesting that it still has factory brake pads (and disc pads) and drives like a champ! :)
hey Axy get a real horn, why don't 'ya ;D
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Got 16kkm on it...
changed:
- malossi variator at 9k
- both tires at 13k
- pads at 15k
- voltage regulator at 15k
- brake oil at 15k
- front fork oil at 15k
- belt,12g rollers, clutch at 15k
sadly now at gas stations people ask me how beautiful agility is.....but its time to say bye bye...
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Got 16kkm on it...
changed:
- malossi variator at 9k
- both tires at 13k
- pads at 15k
- voltage regulator at 15k
- brake oil at 15k
- front fork oil at 15k
- belt,12g rollers, clutch at 15k
sadly now at gas stations people ask me how beautiful agility is.....but its time to say bye bye...
In August you had 15.5K, now only 16K, what happened?
Btw. what's next after Agility?
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..55,000 kms..08 agility 50...lost crank bearing...go figure..
..previous to that, too many mods and trials to mention, but the belt broke, and the variator was literally trash after 30,000kms...
..that's what brought me here..thats when it all began..
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08 Agility City bought in December 2009 with 2800km.
At around 5000km something fell off inside the muffler, so had to take it to a muffler repair shop where they cut it open, welded the part that fell of, and weld the muffler back up.
Rear brake pads needed replacing at around 12500km. The Agility City 125 had a very good rear disk brake, and I use it much more ofter then the front. The front pads look like they will last for a looong time.
The regulator/rectifier died around 15000km. Kymco has a non standard (compared to other scooter manufacturers) 5 pin connector, so ended up buying a OEM which was bloody expensive.
At 22150km the drive belt literally blew up while going around 75km/h uphill. Scared the s..t out of me. It was a aftermarket belt.
At the moment the odo is showing 23356km.
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That seems like a lot of stuff.
My Agility had 3000 when I bought it, put 17k on it in the next year and a half
and only had a headlight failure and starter motor (but that was my fault, used
the bike for delivery work, started it 50+ times a day).
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;D